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Rameek
02-17-2015, 12:00 AM
From top to bottom this is the GREATEST ALBUM EVER made in hip hop...

Supreme Clientele - GhostFace Killah

There may not be 1 song that is like oh that one is a top 10 song ever but from top to bottom NOT 1 SONG on this album could be rated UNDER a 7 out of 10.

Not 1 hip hop album I can remember where I could say every song is good to great.

Whats yours?

NBAplayoffs2001
02-17-2015, 12:04 AM
Nas- Illmatic. It's timeless.

However, I have to check out the full Gangstarr- Moment of Truth album sometime soon. I really like Guru's rhymes and poetic ability.

That_Admiral
02-17-2015, 12:08 AM
Liquid Swords

plowking
02-17-2015, 12:14 AM
I'm a big fan of OC's "Word...Life" album. Something about that album, and I'm not entirely sure what it is, but it doesn't get nearly enough respect.
Nas with Illmatic is another one for me for obvious reasons.
Mos Def with Black on Both Sides.
Kendrick with GKMC is definitely up there as an all time great, and may just be the best rap album ever. If it isn't, it is definitely the most seamless and best flowing rap album ever. I don't even think there is room for debate on that one.
Lastly, for me, Big Pun with Capital Punishment. I just love Pun's style and lyricism. People harp on about Biggie, but Pun was just as good if not better lyrically, as well as his flow.


If I had to pick out of those five it'd be a tie between GKMC and Capital Punishment.

NBAplayoffs2001
02-17-2015, 12:15 AM
I'm a big fan of OC's "Word...Life" album. Something about that album, and I'm not entirely sure what it is, but it doesn't get nearly enough respect.
Nas with Illmatic is another one for me for obvious reasons.
Mos Def with Black on Both Sides.
Kendrick with GKMC is definitely up there as an all time great, and may just be the best rap album ever. If it isn't, it is definitely the most seamless and best flowing rap album ever. I don't even think there is room for debate on that one.
Lastly, for me, Big Pun with Capital Punishment. I just love Pun's style and lyricism. People harp on about Biggie, but Pun was just as good if not better lyrically, as well as his flow.


If I had to pick out of those five it'd be a tie between GKMC and Capital Punishment.
Agree with Big Pun. BOBS by Mos Def for me is a classic but there are way too many tracks (2-3) that I thought were fillers.

Lamar Doom
02-17-2015, 12:15 AM
I'm torn

https://neitherworldradio.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/o8xxyv.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3548/3321457457_6589248083.jpg

L.Kizzle
02-17-2015, 12:18 AM
From top to bottom this is the GREATEST ALBUM EVER made in hip hop...

Supreme Clientele - GhostFace Killah

There may not be 1 song that is like oh that one is a top 10 song ever but from top to bottom NOT 1 SONG on this album could be rated UNDER a 7 out of 10.

Not 1 hip hop album I can remember where I could say every song is good to great.

Whats yours?
What was the hit song from this album?

Rameek
02-17-2015, 12:34 AM
Total Album not one track gets skipped great... ????

Liquid Swords is number 2 for me

Big Pun is one of the greatest but there are couple of songs that we FF not because him though.

Even as GREAT Illmatic I can never listen to One Time 4 Your Mind just liked it.

Rameek
02-17-2015, 12:35 AM
What was the hit song from this album?
Maybe this one.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIdPfbwNV3w

L.Kizzle
02-17-2015, 12:38 AM
Maybe this one.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIdPfbwNV3w
Okay ... well no that can't be the greatest. That was a dope song though. You need a memorable song to have an all time great album.

Nastradamus
02-17-2015, 12:53 AM
Tough call. Best candidates are All Eyez on Me, Ready to Die, Illmatic,The Marshall Mathers LP,E.Eternal 1999, Aquemini,Liquid Swordz,Paid in Full and either The College Dropout or My Beatiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

I don't know if this makes sense, but I think in 10 years we might well say that Watch the Throne is the GOAT. 2 all time greats at the top of their game on an album that is innovative and brilliantly produced.

RoundMoundOfReb
02-17-2015, 12:58 AM
Curtain Call: The Hits

russwest0
02-17-2015, 01:05 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Geto_boys_we_can't_be_stopped_cover.jpg

LJJ
02-17-2015, 01:05 AM
Wu-Tang.

~primetime~
02-17-2015, 01:27 AM
For me it's either 36 Chambers or The Chronic

GOAT East Coast hip hop album or GOAT West Coast gangsta rap album

They're about equal

Springsteen
02-17-2015, 01:34 AM
The Chronic.

fsvr54
02-17-2015, 01:34 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Geto_boys_we_can't_be_stopped_cover.jpg

Grip It! was better

andremiller07
02-17-2015, 02:13 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Violentbydesign.jpg

Bless Mathews
02-17-2015, 02:39 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Company_Flow_-_Funcrusher_Plus.jpg


And it's not really even close.

bdreason
02-17-2015, 03:26 AM
For me it's probably,


2Pac - All Eyes on Me

or

Mobb Deep - The Infamous

Bless Mathews
02-17-2015, 03:59 AM
For me it's probably,


2Pac - All Eyes on Me

or

Mobb Deep - The Infamous

:roll:

Figures.

Classic tupac fan base.

brownmamba00
02-17-2015, 10:08 AM
Ready to Die Eastcoast

or All eyez on me

kurple
02-17-2015, 12:06 PM
its impossible to decide one album thats "the best", because people like different types of music.

but its illmatic. no questions asked

HM: Aquemeni, 36 chamber, Donuts (J Dilla), EminemShow, All Eyez on Me, Do or Die

ArbitraryWater
02-17-2015, 12:08 PM
When that Detox hit

ArbitraryWater
02-17-2015, 12:13 PM
its impossible to decide one album thats "the best", because people like different types of music.

but its illmatic. no questions asked

HM: Aquemeni, 36 chamber, Donuts (J Dilla), EminemShow, All Eyez on Me, Do or Die

http://i.gyazo.com/de95cf8b333c278dade22465ffa2deda.png

Knicks101
02-17-2015, 12:17 PM
its impossible to decide one album thats "the best", because people like different types of music.

but its illmatic. no questions asked

HM: Aquemeni, 36 chamber, Donuts (J Dilla), EminemShow, All Eyez on Me, Do or Die

http://i.imgur.com/CnNrn5f.png

kurple
02-17-2015, 12:30 PM
http://i.gyazo.com/de95cf8b333c278dade22465ffa2deda.png
if we're gonna pretend like its possible to decide one album as the best. then its Illmatic

ace23
02-17-2015, 12:47 PM
My debut when it drops

Knicks101
02-17-2015, 12:47 PM
It's impossible to say what the greatest ice cream flavor is, but it's chocolate chip cookie dough ya'll.

L.Kizzle
02-17-2015, 01:14 PM
My debut when it drops
When? Always drop Mixtape first, EP followed by single. Than bam hit em with the LP.

KobesFinger
02-17-2015, 02:20 PM
To those who say Illmatic - how does It Was Written compare for you?

ArbitraryWater
02-17-2015, 02:31 PM
To those who say Illmatic - how does It Was Written compare for you?


both trash

chips93
02-17-2015, 02:51 PM
http://beta.defsounds.com/wp-content/uploads/kwest.png

http://www.slangstrong.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Good-Kid-MAAD-City.jpg

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/browbeat/2011/09/29/hugo_chavez_caption_contest/nas_illmatic.jpg.CROP.article568-large.jpg

NoGunzJustSkillz
02-17-2015, 03:13 PM
http://i.gyazo.com/de95cf8b333c278dade22465ffa2deda.png

perfect :roll: :roll: :roll:

NoGunzJustSkillz
02-17-2015, 03:16 PM
Let's name some CDs you can listen to from start to finish without pressing sh!t.

TylerOO
02-17-2015, 03:22 PM
GKMC go debate your crackhead cousin

ace23
02-17-2015, 03:34 PM
When? Always drop Mixtape first, EP followed by single. Than bam hit em with the LP.
When I get my fanbase up

Bosnian Sajo
02-17-2015, 05:50 PM
Best album has to have every song be at least good, an album where you aren't really tempted to click the >> button for the next song. It's almost impossible to do, but imo, illmatic is that album. Doesn't mean it's my personal favorite or that I bump it on the reg, but it is the most well done album ever.

Bosnian Sajo
02-17-2015, 05:59 PM
Let's name some CDs you can listen to from start to finish without pressing sh!t.


Different answers for different people. I have a couple, and one of them would be MOTM2, but almost no one on this forum would probably agree with that. Comes down to taste.

Dark twisted fantasy
Watching movies with the sound off
The adventures of Bobby Ray
Good Kidd, Maad City
Mr. Porter
Rolling Papers

There are probably some I'm forgetting, and on a couple of these I couldn't do in one sitting..I love Travis Porter, but I can only listen to so much trap till I change it up to a smoker album (wiz/mac) or nostalgic album (ye/BoB).
It's all based upon our personal opinions and judgement of music.

fsvr54
02-17-2015, 06:07 PM
Honestly can't pick one

Maybe Southernplayalisticcadillacmuzak

~primetime~
02-17-2015, 06:22 PM
Honestly can't pick one

Maybe Southernplayalisticcadillacmuzak
extremely well done album, almost every track is a "classic"

best Outcast album ever IMO...most say ATLiens or Aquemini and those were great too but IMO Cadillacmuzak was the true Outcast.

thefatmiral
02-17-2015, 07:36 PM
enter the 36 chambers - wu tang clan. forever could also be argued as goat.

kurple
02-17-2015, 07:47 PM
Still makes no fvkin sense
why? i dont rank albums, and think its especially stupid to have different people compare and rank albums

but if i had to decide one, then its illmatic. without a doubt

kurple
02-17-2015, 07:50 PM
It's impossible to say what the greatest ice cream flavor is, but it's chocolate chip cookie dough ya'll.
:lebronamazed:

youre a funny guy. but you might wanna put your comedian ambitions on hold

bigkingsfan
02-17-2015, 07:56 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LjI4HP%2BkL.jpg

ace23
02-17-2015, 08:06 PM
So right after saying you don't rank albums you immediately rank an album.
Why are you doing this? Lol

ILLsmak
02-17-2015, 09:33 PM
Okay ... well no that can't be the greatest. That was a dope song though. You need a memorable song to have an all time great album.

Nah. One. Nutmeg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_JhD0HUGYQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS0XhXsmCRs

Then like ghostdini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syfoW_MuGBw

I mean, there are at least half great tracks on that album. I would say it's the greatest but I've listened to it way too much. Def best ghost album and best wu album tho.

His style on those songs.. listen to them all.

-Smak

L.Kizzle
02-17-2015, 09:42 PM
Nah. One. Nutmeg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_JhD0HUGYQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS0XhXsmCRs

Then like ghostdini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syfoW_MuGBw

I mean, there are at least half great tracks on that album. I would say it's the greatest but I've listened to it way too much. Def best ghost album and best wu album tho.

His style on those songs.. listen to them all.

-Smak
I heard it, it doesn't have the qualities to be the best hip hop album of all time.

TylerOO
02-17-2015, 10:26 PM
Different answers for different people. I have a couple, and one of them would be MOTM2, but almost no one on this forum would probably agree with that. Comes down to taste.


I'd agree with you on that, I ****ing love that album

Styles p
02-17-2015, 10:28 PM
Nas- Illmatic. It's timeless.

However, I have to check out the full Gangstarr- Moment of Truth album sometime soon. I really like Guru's rhymes and poetic ability.

you're in for a treat wish i could re listen to it for the first time, every song on it is good.

Nowitness
02-17-2015, 11:36 PM
WMWTSO - Mac Miller

Nowitness
02-17-2015, 11:36 PM
https://33.media.tumblr.com/f5bff8740e946333bef74f2e2bede30f/tumblr_n4mhgp2V6C1rqkjmno6_500.gif


One good song. The rest is the usual boring, repetitive, sensitive Fake.

kurple
02-18-2015, 05:31 PM
So right after saying you don't rank albums you immediately rank an album.
let me try to explain this to you slowly

1) I dont think this thread will have a definite awnser of what the greates hip hop album of all time is. The whole point of the thread was to find this out. but its impossible because people like different things

2) Guess what. I'm one of those people. And IMO Illmatic is the best album of all time. Without a doubt

3) I'm also not a fan of ranking albums in general. And my "list" would be a mess after Illmatic. But i still didnt wanna pass up an opportunity to discuss hip hop with the dudes here. So i decided to post my opinion, even if i think its impossible to find one definite answer

kurple
02-18-2015, 05:33 PM
the macho man with the macho plan needs think a little

ArbitraryWater
02-18-2015, 05:40 PM
the macho man with the macho plan needs think a little

Stop, your initial post made zero sense... thats just how it is.

Just own up to it.

kurple
02-18-2015, 06:03 PM
Stop, your initial post made zero sense... thats just how it is.

Just own up to it.and russian makes zero sense to monkeys, whats your point?

its not that macho didnt understand, its that he's trying to be an smartass. it may have been an poorly written post, but whatever

its cute how BTE'rs stand up for eachother

KobesFinger
02-18-2015, 07:42 PM
The bit we don't get is "there will be no definite answer" then "definitely Illmatic" in the same paragraph. I understand what you mean (no definite answer but you think its Illmatic) but you worded it poorly

ROCSteady
02-18-2015, 07:58 PM
My debut when it drops


:roll:


If the best rap album ever came from TX I would be floored... :oldlol:


Big fan of Scarface and them, also Bun B

~primetime~
02-18-2015, 08:08 PM
:roll:


If the best rap album ever came from TX I would be floored... :oldlol:


Big fan of Scarface and them, also Bun B
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/UGK_-_Super_Tight.jpeg


^^^ Best thing to come out of Texas...and it's definitely a "classic"

Never let hoe ass ****** ride...:bowdown: Pimp C

AirBourne92
02-18-2015, 08:11 PM
Take Care by Drake is the greatest Hip Hop Album of all time.

Haters will deny it but it was a classic in all of music, not just Hip Hop

No one, not 2pac, Nas, or biggie could ever match the versatility of Drake


they all had their strengths, but they also had major weak spots.

Drake has an all around game, a complete innovative rapper.

Milbuck
02-18-2015, 08:36 PM
It's Illmatic for me..but I really think Low End Theory deserves a mention. MM too, but I think LET was a more balanced album while MM might've peaked higher.

L.Kizzle
02-18-2015, 08:37 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/UGK_-_Super_Tight.jpeg


^^^ Best thing to come out of Texas...and it's definitely a "classic"

Never let hoe ass ****** ride...:bowdown: Pimp C
Hell yeah, don't sleep on the lone star state.

joe
02-18-2015, 09:00 PM
Hate to break it to you guys, but Illmatic has become outdated. Rap has evolved and Nas has a weak flow on that album. It is still great, a classic no doubt.. but time has proven Reasonable Doubt to be a better album. It sounds a lot more modern. Nas has that old 90s sounding flow on there, the whole... Then I went to the corner store... I needed cigarettes but I was too poor! Just flowing too simply.

L.Kizzle
02-18-2015, 09:04 PM
Hate to break it to you guys, but Illmatic has become outdated. Rap has evolved and Nas has a weak flow on that album. It is still great, a classic no doubt.. but time has proven Reasonable Doubt to be a better album. It sounds a lot more modern. Nas has that old 90s sounding flow on there, the whole... Then I went to the corner store... I needed cigarettes but I was too poor! Just flowing too simply.
Hip Hip changed a lot from 94 to 96 (plua, it was probably mostly recorded in 92-93 I'm guessing?)

People like Heavy D and Rakim and CL Smooth were still relevant in 94 when Illmatic dropped.

Jay Z had the new era of East Coast rappers to take from like Nas, Raekwon & Ghostface, GZA, Mobb Deep, ect.

ROCSteady
02-18-2015, 09:09 PM
Take Care by Drake is the greatest Hip Hop Album of all time.

Haters will deny it but it was a classic in all of music, not just Hip Hop

No one, not 2pac, Nas, or biggie could ever match the versatility of Drake


they all had their strengths, but they also had major weak spots.

Drake has an all around game, a complete innovative rapper.

I will now thoroughly revisit this album and if it doesn't live up to your hyperbolic statements, I will roast you from this day forth....


Good Day, sir.

joe
02-18-2015, 09:35 PM
Hip Hip changed a lot from 94 to 96 (plua, it was probably mostly recorded in 92-93 I'm guessing?)

People like Heavy D and Rakim and CL Smooth were still relevant in 94 when Illmatic dropped.

Jay Z had the new era of East Coast rappers to take from like Nas, Raekwon & Ghostface, GZA, Mobb Deep, ect.

It is like.. George Mikan paved the way for Bill Russell. But you can never say that Mikan was better than Russell if they were both on the same court. It makes sense that your era will define your sound, but that cannot be an excuse when you are judging the quality of an album 20 years later. Illmatic sounds outdated in sections. It still has some really good songs, and the beats are strong. But I couldnt even put it over Ghetto Fabolous at this point, to be honest.

L.Kizzle
02-18-2015, 09:52 PM
It is like.. George Mikan paved the way for Bill Russell. But you can never say that Mikan was better than Russell if they were both on the same court. It makes sense that your era will define your sound, but that cannot be an excuse when you are judging the quality of an album 20 years later. Illmatic sounds outdated in sections. It still has some really good songs, and the beats are strong. But I couldnt even put it over Ghetto Fabolous at this point, to be honest.
Thing is 99% of Hip-Hop from in 92-93 will sound outdated. It's not just Nas. Shit, Black Sheep and 3rd Bass was still around, lol. A lot happened between 94-96 for J-Zee's debut to sound more modern than Nas.

joe
02-18-2015, 10:21 PM
Thing is 99% of Hip-Hop from in 92-93 will sound outdated. It's not just Nas. Shit, Black Sheep and 3rd Bass was still around, lol. A lot happened between 94-96 for J-Zee's debut to sound more modern than Nas.

I hear you. And Nas does not sound THAT outdated, certainly not compared to like.. Will Smith in the 80s. It is just a touch, but it is noticeable. And point taken that Jay-z wouldnt have sounded modern without those prior influences.

fsvr54
02-18-2015, 11:22 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/UGK_-_Super_Tight.jpeg


^^^ Best thing to come out of Texas...and it's definitely a "classic"

Never let hoe ass ****** ride...:bowdown: Pimp C

Houston is definitely the 3rd greatest hip hop city of all time. Definitely king of the south.

Although I prefer Ridin Dirty, Geto Boys first few albums and Scarface's.

L.Kizzle
02-18-2015, 11:25 PM
Houston is definitely the 3rd greatest hip hop city of all time. Definitely king of the south.

Although I prefer Ridin Dirty, Geto Boys first few albums and Scarface's.
As being from Houston, you could argue the Bay Area. As a matter of fact, I think Bay Area deserves the 3rd spot with Houston being 4th.

fsvr54
02-19-2015, 12:10 AM
As being from Houston, you could argue the Bay Area. As a matter of fact, I think Bay Area deserves the 3rd spot with Houston being 4th.

I counted Bay Area as the second

Bay Area > LA

NBAplayoffs2001
02-22-2015, 01:11 AM
you're in for a treat wish i could re listen to it for the first time, every song on it is good.

That album was amazing, just used it while shooting around. Hit about 20 straight threes. The beats on this album were filthy. Lyricism was good.

Lyricism- a solid 8.5
Beats- a solid 10

fsvr54
02-23-2015, 01:16 AM
Maybe not THE greatest (because the beats aren't all bangin'), but this is the greatest lyrical performance in hip hop history

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZHSSA6JAL.jpg

No one fukks with a prime Ras Kass

Fudge
02-23-2015, 01:19 AM
2014 Forest Hills Drive
Cole World: The Sideline Story
Born Sinner

In that order.