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sammichoffate
02-18-2015, 12:32 AM
This is just my opinion, so hate on my list if you want:

Contenders
West-
GSW: Self-explanatory, best backcourt in the league, elite defense, elite offense, deep bench, and can change the momentum of games instantly with godly three point shooting and ball movement.

Memphis: Lockdown defensive team that excels in getting 4th quarter stops. Arguably the best frontcourt in the league, and can also shoot the three ball this year. Their depth is also underrated, the Jeff Green signing was low-key huge and might be a key factor for a deep run.

San Antonio: Defending Champions. Their core is like fine wine, seemingly getting better with age. Injury has hurt them a bit, but they will turn it up during playoff time if everyone is healthy.

Dallas: Depth all-around, the Rondo signing really helped them address several needs like defense. Monta Ellis has been phenomenal, and the Amare signing might help them even more. Their defense isn't amazing, but they have veteran presence everywhere to go along with a mad genius of a coach in Carlisle.

East-
Atlanta: Some people expected the Hawks to be good, but not THIS good. They have an incredibly balanced team, amazing ball-movement, elite defense, and a very solid chance at making the ECF this season. The jury is still out on whether they can make a deep run, but I expect them to turn it up like San Antonio.

Chicago: On paper, one of the best teams of the league. They have scorers, three point shooters, great defenders, rebounders, and their backcourt and frontcourt are both arguably in the top 5 of the league. Jimmy Butler and Gasol have been huge for this team, Mirotic also. Health will be a major factor, minutes might need to be limited for this particular team due to their style and coaching.

Pretenders
West-
Portland: This team can play with any in the league, but I feel like they're still lacking in some areas. They rely a bit too much on Aldridge and Lillard to make plays happen. Health will also be an issue. Their depth also isn't as deep as the other teams in the West. A darkhorse that can upset any team they play.

Houston: James Harden has had an MVP season, currently leading the league in scoring. However, I don't believe that the team can ride him through the playoffs due to past playoff experiences. He is also their main option on offense, an opposing team's best player shuts down Houston's offense by shutting him down.

Clippers: Currently missing that key wing player that will put them over the hump, Jeff Green would have been perfect. They still have a great frontcourt as well as a overall balanced team led by CP3 and Blake.

OKC: Currently out of the Playoff race, but I expect them to grab the 8th seed from Phoenix. This team will go only as far as Durant and WB take them. Scott Brooks's coaching has been suspect for many years, and they are still missing a few pieces from contending once again.

East-
Wizards: One of the best backcourts in the league with a tough frontcourt to go along with shooters. Wall has been having a phenomenal season, but other teams in the East have more talent and depth at the moment.

Toronto: Also has one of the best backcourts in the league in Lowry and Derozan. I think they're still too inexperienced for a title, their Coaching and depth could see some improvement.

Thunderfan86
02-18-2015, 12:37 AM
OKC is a contender......that's all

imnew09
02-18-2015, 12:47 AM
Overrated pretenders : Hawks and GSW

Contenders : East Bulls West Memphis SAS

The rest not even wortg mentioning

Legends66NBA7
02-18-2015, 12:48 AM
I'm one to believe you can't be a pretender if you your not seen as a contender to begin with.

Which is why I would leave Toronto off altogether, IMO. Record wise, it's the best they ever had at this stage of the season. They are building on what they have but are far away from contending.

But I have to ask outside of inexperience (which is correct), why do the coaching and bench play need improvement ?

Toronto has one of the best benches in the league, I belive they are the highest scoring bench overall if I'm not mistaken. Isn't that what the main priority of a bench unit ? Lou, Patterson, Vasquez, James Johnson (when he was coming off the bench)... all could give you some where between 10-20 a night. Lou in particular gives you 15 per game and is in 6th man of the year contention.

As for the coaching, they've definitely done something right offensively all season, while the over usage of switching defense has shown that it hasn't been sustainably effective all season long, especially with DeMar missing significant time. Despite that, development of this team had come along well and there are not many breakout of egos in the locker room. Again, best record since the break and on pace to best record the team has ever had. Nothing to be changed.

Off course, regular season records don't matter come playoff time. I would hope nobody really expects this team to make a deep playoff run or even think of contention yet.

sammichoffate
02-18-2015, 12:56 AM
I'm one to believe you can't be a pretender if you your not seen as a contender to begin with.

Which is why I would leave Toronto off altogether, IMO. Record wise, it's the best they ever had at this stage of the season. They are building on what they have but are far away from contending.

But I have to ask outside of inexperience (which is correct), why do the coaching and bench play need improvement ?

Toronto has one of the best benches in the league, I belive they are the highest scoring bench overall if I'm not mistaken. Isn't that what the main priority of a bench unit ? Lou, Patterson, Vasquez, James Johnson (when he was coming off the bench)... all could give you some where between 10-20 a night. Lou in particular gives you 15 per game and is in 6th man of the year contention.

As for the coaching, they've definitely done something right offensively all season, while the over usage of switching defense has shown that it hasn't been sustainably effective all season long, especially with DeMar missing significant time. Despite that, development of this team had come along well and there are not many breakout of egos in the locker room. Again, best record since the break and on pace to best record the team has ever had. Nothing to be changed.

Off course, regular season records don't matter come playoff time. I would hope nobody really expects this team to make a deep playoff run or even think of contention yet.I honestly think Toronto has enough talent to push any team in the East to 7 games, that's why I put them on the list. That's what I meant, depth-wise. They don't have much playoff experience since they're all mostly young. Their bench is very good, I just can't say that they're deep until they do a good playoff run. I love Lou Williams, guy could be a starter on a lot of teams but chooses to run the show as a quality 6th man.

Legends66NBA7
02-18-2015, 01:04 AM
That's what I meant, depth-wise. They don't have much playoff experience since they're all mostly young. Their bench is very good, I just can't say that they're deep until they do a good playoff run. I love Lou Williams, guy could be a starter on a lot of teams but chooses to run the show as a quality 6th man.

I think you mean star talent, not depth.

Depth wise, this team can go 8-9 guys in a playoff series but they don't have a guy or 2 that can take over a game at a given moment. It has to be a team effort for them to win.

I'll say this... Toronto's defense should be better come playoff time. If you notice Raptor games, they switch a lot and over help. When the game slows down, opposing teams might get panicked with the constant pressure and switching. As I said before, in the regular season it's not a sustainable game plan and it gets very tiring but in a playoff series, it can switch momentum and win games.

Joyner82reload
02-18-2015, 01:07 AM
Contenders: Western Conference

Pretenders: Eastern Conference

BlazerRed
02-18-2015, 01:08 AM
Contenders: Western Conference

Pretenders: Eastern Conference
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andremiller07
02-18-2015, 01:34 AM
Contenders: Western Conference

Pretenders: Eastern Conference
:roll:

sammichoffate
02-18-2015, 01:41 AM
Contenders: Western Conference

Pretenders: Eastern Conference:kobe:

DaSeba5
02-18-2015, 01:53 AM
Contenders: Western Conference

Pretenders: Eastern Conference

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Damn, but true.

Eric Cartman
02-18-2015, 01:59 AM
West Contenders:

GS
San Antonio

East Contenders:

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SamuraiSWISH
02-18-2015, 02:46 AM
West: GSW or SA or OKC

Pretenders:
Memphis
Dallas
Houston

East: Cavs

Pretenders:
Hawks
Bulls
Wizards

Heavincent
02-18-2015, 03:02 AM
Contenders:
Warriors
Spurs
Grizzlies
Hawks

Those are without a doubt the 4 best teams imo. Everyone else is a tier below.

Dark horses:
Mavs
Blazers
Cavs (only here because they play in the East)

Pretenders:
Rockets
Clippers
Entire Eastern conference outside of ATL and CLE

SugarHill
02-18-2015, 03:06 AM
Contenders: Western Conference

Pretenders: Eastern Conference
don't do us like that

ThunderLips
02-18-2015, 09:39 AM
Contenders: OKC, Toronto, Portland, Phoenix, Miami

Pretenders: Golden State, Memphis, Atlanta, Chicago, Cleveland, Washington, San Antonio, Houston, Clippers

ArbitraryWater
02-18-2015, 09:43 AM
Um, you didn't list Cavaliers as contender OR pretender.... wut

VengefulAngel
02-18-2015, 10:01 AM
Um, you didn't list Cavaliers as contender OR pretender.... wut

The finals are the most likely outcome for a Lebron led team. But we know what happens in the NBA finals.

StephHamann
02-18-2015, 10:16 AM
Contenders: Western Conference

Pretenders: Eastern Conference

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Hotlantadude81
02-18-2015, 01:03 PM
I honestly think Toronto has enough talent to push any team in the East to 7 games, that's why I put them on the list. That's what I meant, depth-wise. They don't have much playoff experience since they're all mostly young. Their bench is very good, I just can't say that they're deep until they do a good playoff run. I love Lou Williams, guy could be a starter on a lot of teams but chooses to run the show as a quality 6th man.

Lou Williams is shooting under 40% again. Some quality 6th man.

Lou Williams sucks.

beastee
02-18-2015, 03:49 PM
Contenders: OKC, Toronto, Portland, Phoenix, Miami

Pretenders: Golden State, Memphis, Atlanta, Chicago, Cleveland, Washington, San Antonio, Houston, Clippers

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MMM
02-18-2015, 04:03 PM
Contenders Memphis, Cleveland, Atlanta, SAS

Pretenders: Golden State, Dallas, Houston

Heavincent
02-18-2015, 04:20 PM
Contenders Memphis, Cleveland, Atlanta, SAS

Pretenders: Golden State, Dallas, Houston

Cleveland are contenders but Golden State aren't?

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Done_And_Done
02-18-2015, 04:27 PM
Contenders: OKC, Toronto, Portland, Phoenix, Miami

Pretenders: Golden State, Memphis, Atlanta, Chicago, Cleveland, Washington, San Antonio, Houston, Clippers

You need a dictionary bro?

CP343
02-18-2015, 04:29 PM
I'm surprised OP doesn't have Cavs as either a contender or pretender.

swagga
02-18-2015, 04:32 PM
cavs are underrated imo. this team will play with energy in the playoffs making them better defensively and igniting the break.

Plus on a team with lebron and kyrie you know they'll get friendly whistles.