Obama: Terror, Not Islam, Is the Enemy

[9erempiree]

“We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam,”

This guys is such a joke. The worse president in our country's history and this man wants to send ground troops.

Barry Obomber's father was pro-Islam and I'm sure he is too.

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[LOLCATS]

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[Velocirap31]

Obama is stating the obvious. You are so dumb OP, my god. Negged.

[9erempiree]

Obama is stating the obvious. You are so dumb OP, my god. Negged.

He supports terrorism.

[Eric Cartman]

He supports terrorism.

Get the f*ck out of California then.

[9erempiree]

Get the f*ck out of California then.

I wish I can say that to Barry.

[9erempiree]

According to dear leader, Islam was woven into AMERICA since its inception.

Let our children cherish the names of Mohammed Yousjeferrson who penned our Declaration of Islamization and our first warrior king George Wahabiiston.

WTF kind of stupid does this moron take the public for?

The first mosque in the USA wasn't until 1929.

When it comes to Islam, Obama simply cannot tell the truth.

[Dresta]

Would anyone care to mention how the American Christian President of the United States became an authority as to what does and does not constitute Islam? This is not his prerogative nor his right.

All Western leaders are desperately delivering their verdicts on Islam, unanimously affirming their approval, and their knowing more about the religion than some of its most devoted and fanatic followers. It is beyond idiotic; patronising too, really.

People abiding in the strictest way possible to Islamic law = not muslim.

Muslims who drink and have premarital sex = real muslims

:rolleyes:

[pauk]

Yes? He is right? :confusedshrug:

wtf is wrong with you 9er? Actual Islam, actual Muslims are at war with those psychos.... they do more harm to muslims and to Islam than anybody/anything else....

[Velocirap31]

I throw insults at you 9er because I was bored and in a bad mood and you just roll with it and keep going. Apologies, props and repped.

[riseagainst]

OP is a retarded fakkit.

[Dresta]

Yes? He is right? :confusedshrug:

wtf is wrong with you 9er? Actual Islam, actual Muslims are at war with those psychos.... they do more harm to muslims and to Islam than anybody/anything else....
But they are still muslim. The refusal to admit this is a political equivocation, nothing more.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Allah Ta'ala says:

"The worldly life is nothing but substance of deception."

Rasulullah Sallallahu alayhi wasallam said:

"The world is the prison of the Mu'min and the paradise of the Kaafir."

All things which give pleasure here to the nafs without being of any merit in the Aakhirah is termed dunya. We are afflicted with a number of spiritual ailments all having their origin in the love of the world. About this disease, Hubb-e-dunya, Rasulullah Sallallahu alayhi wasallam said:

"Love of the world is the root of all evil."

If this root ailment is treated and cured, all other maladies flowing from it will also disappear. A man overwhelmed by Hubb-e-dunya has no concern and time for the Aakhirah. Such a person having no care for the Aakhirah will not be bothered about righteous deeds nor will he abstain from evil. The one in whom there is Hubb-e-dunya has very little Fikr for the Deen. Increase in the degree of Hubb-e-dunya brings about a corresponding decrease in Fikr (concern) for the Deen. Total Hubb-e-dunya entails total lack of Fikr for the Deen. This is manifest in the Kuffaar.

Dunya does not mean wealth and family. Dunya is the intentional and voluntary adoption of anything evil which causes one to become forgetful of Allah Ta'ala irrespective of what that thing may be. Thus, acquisition of wealth and other material means is not evil, but Hubb-e-dunya (love for such material objects) is evil. Wealth is like the water in the ocean and the heart of man is like the ship sailing in the ocean. Water, while it facilitates the movement of the ship can also bring about its sinking. As long as the water remains outside the ship, it aids its sailing. But entry of the water into the ship causes it to sink. Similar is the case of wealth. Wealth aids man as long as it remains outside his heart. However, of its love enters the heart it will bring about his destruction.

The Hadith Shareef states:

"Halaal wealth is a benefit to a pious man."

He benefits because he (a pious man) spends his wealth in meritorious ways. On the contrary, if love of wealth captures the heart of man, he suppresses the rights of others. When the treasures of the Persian Empire were ushered into the presence of Hadhrat Umar (Radhiyallahu Anhu), he recited the Qur'aanic Aayat:

"The love of pleasures has been adorned for mankind"

He then commented: "O Allah! It is evident that the desire for pleasure is inherent in us. Its total elimination is not the aim. But, we supplicate that wealth aids us in the attainment of Your Love."

The dunya (or the world) which has been criticized is like a serpent whose skin is colourful and most beautiful. But its poison is fatal. Intelligent people maintain a distance from such danger and are not lured by the externally adorned skin. But a little child unaware of the danger of a snake is attracted by the external beauty and is prepared to grab hold of the snake. We are comparable to the little child. We are attracted to the world by its external beauty and adornment without being aware of its dangers. Men of intelligence and experience do not incline towards the world.

People are generally deceived and overwhelmed by the glitter of the world because they are not aware of its reality. Should the reality of the world be revealed, they would become utterly disillusioned and detest it. The Hadith Shareef states:

"If the value of the world was equal to that of the wing of a mosquito by Allah, He would not have allowed any Kaafir even a drink of water from it."

In the Eyes of Allah Ta'ala the world has no value. It is a detestable object. He therefore prefers it for His enemies. A man aware of the realities if fearful of an object detested by Allah Ta'ala. Rasulullah Sallallahu alayhi wasallam described the world in the following similitude:

"What relationship with the world have I? My similitude is like a traveller on a mount, halting in the shade of a tree (for a short while only to leave it again, and proceed along the sojourn)."

The traveller rests a while in the shade and then moves on again.

THE REMEDY

Remember maut (death) in abundance and do not involve yourself in distant and remote hopes. The pursuit of distant schemes and material enterprises should be shunned. In this way the love of the world will be eliminated from the heart.

This elimination is in fact the stage at the end of Sulook (the Path along which the Mureed travels in his spiritual journey). One has, in fact, to become imbued with the spirit and quality spoken of in the following Hadith:

"Die before your death."

This Hadith means that one has to inculcate the attribute of the dead in one even before death, and that attribute is the lack of worldly love. There are three ways by which one can attain proximity with Allah Ta'ala, These are explained in detail as follows.

Hmmm...

Doesn't SOUND ANYTHING like either IS or even moderate Muslims either.

Actually sounds like that Quantum Mechanics the world is a holographic universe type ordeal.

[CP343]

Obama speaks the truth.

[pauk]

But they are still muslim. The refusal to admit this is a political equivocation, nothing more.

:oldlol: They are muslims only in their eyes and in the eyes of those who know nothing about Islam.... You tell this to a random muslim and he will be offended and/or smh and/or chuckle for the entire day.......

For you to be a called a muslim you have to abide by at least the most obvious, most common muslim edicts.... something which all "muslim" terrorists/ISIS breaks in UBER BRUTAL FASHION........ like.... say:

“Whoever slays a soul, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men.” (Surah al-Mā’ida 5:32)

Only that should be enough or?????

If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law and It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (2:256).

The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice toward people even where they have reason to be angry with them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]

...and The Qur’an assures Christians and Jews of paradise and commends especially Christians as the best friends of Muslims.

Quran 5:69 says (Arberry): “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness–their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.”

You could go on forever........................................... .....

What terrorists/ISIS is doing is not Islam...... its more like middle-easterns version of SATANISM..... they have created their own complete perverted indoctrinated caliphate ideology of a death cult....... with nothing but psychos in it....

You can go ahead and hate religion, hate Islam.... no problem, but dont you dare call that there what they are doing Islam..... you are only doing them a favor.... because thats what they want Islam to be....

[32jazz]

Obama is stating the obvious. You are so dumb OP, my god. Negged.

This. Not shocking its the New York Post & Right Wing nutbags who are making a big deal of Obamas quotes. I never heard this fake outrage & open Islamophohia when Bush said the same things without controversy .

Here are about 30 quotes from George Bush:

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/ramadan/islam.html

Just a sample of a couple .

..." face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. Islam is Peace"

"Americans understand we fight not a religion;ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith."

...." the war against terrorism is not a war against Muslims(Islam)".



The warmongers , Obama haters & Islamaphobes are making something out of nothing..

[Dresta]

:oldlol: They are muslims only in their eyes and in the eyes of those who know nothing about Islam.... You tell this to a random muslim and he will be offended and/or smh and/or chuckle for the entire day.......

For you to be a called a muslim you have to abide by at least the most obvious, most common muslim edicts.... something which all "muslim" terrorists/ISIS breaks in UBER BRUTAL FASHION........ like.... say:

“Whoever slays a soul, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men.” (Surah al-Mā’ida 5:32)

Only that should be enough or?????

If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law and It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (2:256).

The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice toward people even where they have reason to be angry with them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]

...and The Qur’an assures Christians and Jews of paradise and commends especially Christians as the best friends of Muslims.

Quran 5:69 says (Arberry): “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness–their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.”

You could go on forever........................................... .....

What terrorists/ISIS is doing is not Islam...... its more like middle-easterns version of SATANISM..... they have created their own complete perverted indoctrinated caliphate ideology of a death cult....... with nothing but psychos in it....

You can go ahead and hate religion, hate Islam.... no problem, but dont you dare call that there what they are doing Islam..... you are only doing them a favor.... because thats what they want Islam to be....
Under any census they classify as muslim. Your post is just a childish equivocation, one rather typical of religious people who think they can interpret a religion whatever way they choose, but that others apparently can't do this (if the 'majority' don't agree with them). That's not how it works. If you don't have a central authority enforcing a single interpretation (as you seem to want), then interpretations you don't like are inevitable, and adherents of these interpretations have as much right to declare themselves the only 'real' muslims as you, or anyone else does. These be the drawbacks of prostrating yourself before archaic desert religions.

Evangelicals certainly don't constitute the majority of Christians in the West, and they may not be at all representative of your average Christian, but they are certainly Christian (even if other Christians want to disown them).

Stop accusing me of 'hate' simply because you cannot admit plain facts to yourself.

[LEFT4DEAD]

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Why are you even trying to argue with those idiots, who have red couple of wikipedia pages and think they know about islam more than a real muslim?
Dresta is the biggest idiot I have seen in a long time... that kind of people, who are not aware that they dont know, but like to pretend like smartasses.

p.s. and the guy just beat me to show how stupid he is :lol

[Dresta]

Look, it's the teaming up of utterly illogical muslims to condemn the heretic :roll: 'real muslim' - what does that even mean? Since when are you the central authority on the Islamic faith?

These people consider themselves 'real muslims' and many of them are a whole lot more devout than you are - i don't see you willing to kill or die for what you believe in (sorry, but no holy book completely proscribes killing except a suicidal one). I've seen and heard the motivations of these people, and a great deal of them are fighting for Islam. Keep denying that what these people say is real if it makes you feel better about your mighty religion, but don't expect other people to buy into your bullshit.

Anyway, these people are clearly muslims, and i'm tired of this argument; incessantly denying the facts does not change them, it only makes others bored. They look like they think they're muslims to me:

https://archive.org/details/kirkuk-iqtiham


Dey fake doe cos you say... watta dumbazz.

[Jud]

OP

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[GreggPopazit]

OP is the enemy.

[longtime lurker]

Obama speaks common sense and of course he gets hated for it :lol

Sorry he didn't appease all you blood thirsty morons on ISH. The president that's conducted the most drone strikes is somehow a terrorist sympathizer :facepalm

[NumberSix]

'real muslim' - what does that even mean? Since when are you the central authority on the Islamic faith?
It means, no true Scotsman.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Look, it's the teaming up of utterly illogical muslims to condemn the heretic :roll: 'real muslim' - what does that even mean? Since when are you the central authority on the Islamic faith?

These people consider themselves 'real muslims' and many of them are a whole lot more devout than you are - i don't see you willing to kill or die for what you believe in (sorry, but no holy book completely proscribes killing except a suicidal one). I've seen and heard the motivations of these people, and a great deal of them are fighting for Islam. Keep denying that what these people say is real if it makes you feel better about your mighty religion, but don't expect other people to buy into your bullshit.

Anyway, these people are clearly muslims, and i'm tired of this argument; incessantly denying the facts does not change them, it only makes others bored. They look like they think they're muslims to me:

https://archive.org/details/kirkuk-iqtiham


Dey fake doe cos you say... watta dumbazz.
Wow, after probably a thousand of posts just like this one you have posted around, and after seeing that nobody takes you seriously, a man would have thought you will get tired of it. But no, you are still the same idiot you were even 6 years ago. :applause: :applause:

[tpols]

Wow, after probably a thousand of posts just like this one you have posted around, and after seeing that nobody takes you seriously, a man would have thought you will get tired of it. But no, you are still the same idiot you were even 6 years ago. :applause: :applause:

Any explanation for this?

From a public school in cairo to killing fields of syria (http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/19/world/middleeast/from-a-private-school-in-cairo-to-isis-killing-fields-in-syria-video.html?referrer=&_r=0)



Mr. Aly raised his son, Islam Yaken, in Heliopolis, a middle-class Cairo neighborhood with tended gardens and trendy coffee shops, and sent him to a private school, where he studied in French. As a young man, Mr. Yaken wanted to be a fitness instructor. He trained relentlessly, hoping that his effort would bring him success, girlfriends and wealth. But his goals never materialized. He left that life and found religion, extremism and, ultimately, his way into a photograph where he knelt beside a decapitated corpse on the killing fields of Syria, smiling.

Yet as his dreams began to crash into Egypt’s depressed economy and political turmoil, Mr. Yaken started to feel guilty about his lifestyle choices, his friends and family said. He scolded himself for missing prayers, for disobeying his parents, for betraying the conservative values of his community. But most of all, Mr. Atef said, Mr. Yaken felt guilty about his relations with women.

“When you’re doing something wrong, you still remember God,” Mr. Atef said, emphasizing that religion had remained central to his and Mr. Yaken’s identities even when they drifted from it. “He had sex with women.”



In his quest for answers, Mr. Yaken found Sheikh Muhammad Hussein Yacoub, a popular Salafist preacher with tens of thousands of followers. Calling for Egypt to enshrine Shariah law in its new Constitution. He enjoyed an even broader presence online, and his Friday sermons drew an audience that filled mosques and spilled out into neighboring streets.

“Suppose a young man falls in love with a girl in college,” Sheikh Yacoub said in one of hundreds of sermons posted on his YouTube page. “He doesn’t touch her or talk to her or send her messages. He doesn’t even look at her.”

“That’s still zina!” he yelled out, using the Arabic term for the sin of adultery and fornication.

Seems like the preachers over there are teaching some scary stuff.. these aren't isis recruitors.. they're just conservative priests. This guy wasn't a physio but was molded into one. Read he got blown up btw And is now dead

[Lakers Legend#32]

Republican heads are exploding which means Obama speaks the truth.

[No_Look604]

I don't even like Obama anymore but OP you're an idiot and you're also a disgrace to all 49ers fans.