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tomSR.
02-20-2015, 10:50 AM
they are on a plane alot.....so could that be the reason why so many players get them....:confusedshrug:

JellyBean
02-20-2015, 11:58 AM
It is possible. But I thought that you would get them more in your legs, not in your lungs, because you are sitting for so long.

Jailblazers7
02-20-2015, 12:00 PM
It is possible. But I thought that you would get them more in your legs, not in your lungs, because you are sitting for so long.

Well, for a pulmonary the clot starts in the leg and travels to the lungs so it could definitely be the cause.

BlackWhiteGreen
02-20-2015, 12:12 PM
Inb4 teams install seated bikes on their planes

Jailblazers7
02-20-2015, 12:25 PM
right, and these basketball players have long legs, very difficult to stretch them out on a plane, and walking around the plane is probably also a bit difficult.........

I'm sure they have a decent amount of leg room on the team planes but yeah it's probably difficult for them to get adequate space.

Real Men Wear Green
02-20-2015, 12:38 PM
Theoo: this isn't the place for unfunny trolling.

bluechox2
02-20-2015, 12:44 PM
could be some foreign gas inhaled which turns into an embolus at higher pressure..or something more serious like an immunologic disease

L.Kizzle
02-20-2015, 12:46 PM
I know Serena Williams almost died from one a few years ago.

Theoo
02-20-2015, 12:47 PM
they are on a plane alot.....so could that be the reason why so many players get them....:confusedshrug:
yes i think so . im praying for chris bosh i love u chris bosh its gonna be better

HomieWeMajor
02-20-2015, 12:55 PM
Considering the amount of flying players do,there isn't actually that many occurrences as you would think .

CP343
02-20-2015, 01:40 PM
Good question. With Kersey dying from one, and Bosh getting one a few days later, this is a serious concern.

gts
02-20-2015, 02:52 PM
Blood clots can form from injuries too... a solid blow to the leg during a game can cause bleeding internally that forms a blood clot

They're not only from sitting around

Dresta
02-20-2015, 03:15 PM
Blood clots can form from injuries too... a solid blow to the leg during a game can cause bleeding internally that forms a blood clot

They're not only from sitting around
The fact they get onto planes after being bruised in a bball game likely multiplies the risk - it will be a combination of both.

CP343
02-20-2015, 03:24 PM
The fact they get onto planes after being bruised in a bball game likely multiplies the risk - it will be a combination of both.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

AirFederer
02-20-2015, 04:02 PM
My guess is that it's PED related...

chocolatethunder
02-20-2015, 07:00 PM
http://www.active.com/articles/hidden-danger-dvt-in-endurance-athletes

Read all about it here. It's common apparently.

jbryan1984
02-20-2015, 07:09 PM
More pro wrestlers would get them and they dont. They fly 4-6 times a week.

Euroleague
02-20-2015, 07:59 PM
It's probably almost assuredly caused by PED use.

If you are using testosterone, blood clots in your lungs is one of the well-known side effects.

Budadiiii
02-20-2015, 08:44 PM
It's almost assuredly caused by PED use.

If you are using testosterone, blood clots in your lungs is one of the well-known side effects.
Unfortunately, this is probably the case.

Usually when one guy is doing it, so is the other....

It is very likely Wade/LeBron introduced Bosh to doping and a high likelihood they did it together all four years together in Miami. Lebron is a known doper. Wade too. It's a shame you have to cheat to win.

Those rings really don't mean much at all.

PejaNowitzki
02-20-2015, 08:59 PM
It's almost assuredly caused by PED use.

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Its almost assuredly possible that you have no clue as to what you are talking about. Common sense would tell you that the amount of drugs used by basketball players would pale in comparison to that of NFL players, bodybuilders and powerlifters and there is no vast occurrence of blood clots, DVT or PE in those populations anymore than in the general population. Anabolics certainly can enhance the risk but are not regarded as a primary cause.


Medical literature also indicates that corticosteroids are just as much a risk factor for PE as anabolic steroids. How many athletes out there are taking cortisone injections and do so frequently throughout their careers, guys across all sports pretty much.




"Glucosteroids, one of which is cortisone, have been found to increase the risk of having a venous blood clot by two to three times. Even more problematic is that the form of the steroid doesn't matter. Inhaled, injected, or swallowed, all glucosteroids increase the risk of a clot (although some forms are more risky than other forms).

- See more at: http://www.clotspot.com/blogfaq/cortisone-and-other-glucosteroids-increase-the-risk-of-having-a-pulmonary-embolism#sthash.DIIwXbd3.dpuf"


It appears across all sports, marathoners frequently suffer from DVT, professional and amateur. Its tough to predict but genetics plays a major role in it, your injury history....etc. Air travel is only one potential cause out of many. Drug use is only one potential cause, sitting for too long in any one place, being constantly dehydrated, all risk factors. CrossFitters have also in recent years been noted to be prone to DVT. Generally a lower resting heart rate, something commonly found in advanced athletes, is linked with a heightened risk of blood clots as well.

PejaNowitzki
02-20-2015, 09:04 PM
More pro wrestlers would get them and they dont. They fly 4-6 times a week.



Flying is only one of many risk factors.

JtotheIzzo
02-20-2015, 09:35 PM
I doubt it is flying:

1-they fly domestically so the flights are typically short.

2-they have ample leg room and comfort on their team planes.

3-Pilots and flight attendants would be dropping dead daily if flying was a main culprit.

Euroleague
02-20-2015, 10:09 PM
Its almost assuredly possible that you have no clue as to what you are talking about. Common sense would tell you that the amount of drugs used by basketball players would pale in comparison to that of NFL players, bodybuilders and powerlifters and there is no vast occurrence of blood clots, DVT or PE in those populations anymore than in the general population. Anabolics certainly can enhance the risk but are not regarded as a primary cause.


Medical literature also indicates that corticosteroids are just as much a risk factor for PE as anabolic steroids. How many athletes out there are taking cortisone injections and do so frequently throughout their careers, guys across all sports pretty much.





It appears across all sports, marathoners frequently suffer from DVT, professional and amateur. Its tough to predict but genetics plays a major role in it, your injury history....etc. Air travel is only one potential cause out of many. Drug use is only one potential cause, sitting for too long in any one place, being constantly dehydrated, all risk factors. CrossFitters have also in recent years been noted to be prone to DVT. Generally a lower resting heart rate, something commonly found in advanced athletes, is linked with a heightened risk of blood clots as well.

Testosterone intake is well-known to cause blood clots in the lungs.

This is a basic common knowledge even.

Also, there are three cases of basketball players with this same issue just recently.

1. Pete Mickeal (twice)

2. Mirza Teletovic

3. Chris Bosh

All of these cases happened very recently, including both times with Mickeal.

triangleoffense
02-20-2015, 10:13 PM
I highly doubt it.. look up if it's a problem with pilots and stewardess.

inclinerator
02-20-2015, 10:21 PM
nope

PejaNowitzki
02-20-2015, 10:24 PM
Testosterone intake is well-known to cause blood clots in the lungs.

This is a basic common knowledge even.

Also, there are three cases of basketball players with this same issue just recently.

1. Pete Mickeal (twice)

2. Mirza Teletovic

3. Chris Bosh

All of these cases happened very recently, including both times with Mickeal.




The problem is you took one possible cause and made it seem like its the only possibility. There are a myriad of causes that can lead to blood clots, particularly in athletes.


Declaring that it absolutely must be from PED's just means that you are talking out of your ass. You don't know better than anyone else.



Highlighting a few cases of basketball players that have suffered from blood clots means absolutely nothing unless you have specific evidence as to the cause of their issues, otherwise correlation does not equal causation.


You might as well highlight that three guys who wore suits to work all had strokes. Does wearing a suit make you more likely to have a stroke, or is it likely a coincidence that has simply been highlighted.

Euroleague
02-20-2015, 10:45 PM
The problem is you took one possible cause and made it seem like its the only possibility. There are a myriad of causes that can lead to blood clots, particularly in athletes.


Declaring that it absolutely must be from PED's just means that you are talking out of your ass. You don't know better than anyone else.



Highlighting a few cases of basketball players that have suffered from blood clots means absolutely nothing unless you have specific evidence as to the cause of their issues, otherwise correlation does not equal causation.


You might as well highlight that three guys who wore suits to work all had strokes. Does wearing a suit make you more likely to have a stroke, or is it likely a coincidence that has simply been highlighted.

Not once did I say that it was for sure caused by PED use. So stop acting like I did. But regardless, it is definitely extremely suspicious, especially since the blood clots on the lungs are the specific side effect of that.

Which really has nothing to do with all of this other stuff. Yes, you can get blood clots in all these other ways, but the specific issue of blood clots in the lungs is a very well-known direct side effect of testosterone use.

Obviously no one knows for sure except the players, the people they would get the drugs from, the doctors, and the NBA (that would always be covering this stuff up), so no, I am not saying yeah, that is absolutely for sure what it is.

Just that if you want a most likely reason, that is probably it. It COULD be something else, but let's be serious here - why was blood clots in the lungs not a problem for players before, and now all of a sudden it is just in recent years?

dreamwarrior
02-20-2015, 11:51 PM
There should be more back to back games against the same teams or other teams in the area. I never understood why a team would play the Lakers one night and then fly all the way to NY to play the Knicks 2-3 nights later and sometimes even the next night. Do like what baseball does. Play teams twice in a row before moving onto another city.

305Baller
02-21-2015, 12:05 AM
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