It just hit me like ton of bricks....

[You Cant Ban Me]

LeBron James beat Kevin Durant,James Harden, and Russell Westbrook with ease in the NBA Finals...Let that sink in for a second he beat 3 of the top 5 players in the league all on the same team with ease....:bowdown: #respect

[Richesly]

James Harden wasn't MVP caliber at the time and wasn't being used to his full potential anyways.

James Harden wasn't top 5 at the time anyways, nor was he top 10. I would say more top 25.

[You Cant Ban Me]

thats not the point if he was top 5 back then.He is top 5 now thats all im saying and lebron beat 3 of the top 5 on the same team with ease.Got to respect that:applause:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

:applause:

[Richesly]

thats not the point if he was top 5 back then.He is top 5 now thats all im saying and lebron beat 3 of the top 5 on the same team with ease.Got to respect that:applause:

Sure, I definitely respect that he won the finals. And yes, Harden is definitely top 5 as of now.

But the point is that LeBron beat the Thunder when Harden wasn't even a top 10 player. So you can't really give him the credit that he beat 3 of top 5, when he really only beat 2. And Westbrook was only arguably top 5.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

...but they weren't top 5 then. Harden sucks in the playoffs and apart from those three no one on OKC averaged a double digit ppg in the finals.

That doesn't make it unimpressive but it's not like he beat 3 current top 5s.

[You Cant Ban Me]

Sure, I definitely respect that he won the finals. And yes, Harden is definitely top 5 as of now.

But the point is that LeBron beat the Thunder when Harden wasn't even a top 10 player. So you can't really give him the credit that he beat 3 of top 5, when he really only beat 2. And Westbrook was only arguably top 5.
For all i know James Harden was a top 5 player at the end of the 2010-11 season who was willingly taking the backseat for the betterment of the team.He literally became a top 5 player the 1st game after the 2011 finals he played.Which happened to be when he was sent to Houston a week before the 2011-12 season started.

Im not a lebron stan in anyway shape or form but this mf is so far and beyond everyone else in the league since kobe fell off it isn't even funny.

[Dragic4Life]

shiiiit.

:applause: :cheers:

[christian1923]

While playing with Wade and Bosh

[You Cant Ban Me]

While playing with Wade and Bosh
Say what you want but the gap between this man and everyone else who is in the league is insane.It just hit me when i was thinking about the 2012 finals.He really beat 3 of the top 5 players in the league all on the same team that shit is crazy!He beat them with ease too thats the mindblowing part.

[Richesly]

For all i know James Harden was a top 5 player at the end of the 2010-11 season who was willing taking the backseat for the betterment of the team.He literally became a top 5 player the 1st game after the 2011 finals he played.Which happened to be when he was sent to Houston a week before the 2011-12 season started.

Im not a lebron stan in anyway shape or form but this mf is so far and beyond everyone else in the league since kobe feel off it isn't even funny.


You can't speculate that though.

Maybe he was top 5 at the time and was being held back. But again, that's pure speculation and you can't do that.

Averaging 17 points off the bench is really good, don't get me wrong.

[BuffaloBill]

03 Duncan >

[Dengness9]

While playing with Wade and Bosh

BOOM.

Thread/

[Dragic4Life]

BOOM.

Thread/
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[Eric Cartman]

Dirk in '11 beat 2 of the top 3 players in the finals and 3 out of the top 10.

[Leviathon1121]

Karl Malone swept two top 10 players of all time on the same team...it just hit me.

[riseagainst]

Lebron didn't beat 3 top 5's in 2012. Harden and Westbrook weren't in the top 5. Hell, Harden wasn't even top 15.


Dirk, however, in 2011 beat 3 top 5's in the finals.

:bowdown:

[Richesly]

Lebron didn't beat 3 top 5's in 2012. Harden and Westbrook weren't in the top 5. Hell, Harden wasn't even top 15.


Dirk, however, in 2011 beat 3 top 5's in the finals.

:bowdown:

Bosh wasn't even a top 5 in his last year in Toronto. Definitely top ten though.

[oh the horror]

So basically with Lebron the narrative changes weekly.


Downplay the talent on his teams.


Play up the talent on every other team so he's always the underdog.



Every other team is "stacked". His squads are Lebron and mannequins basically.




Got it.



This guy has a fan base that literally would defend the guy no matter what.

[Eric Cartman]

So basically with Lebron the narrative changes weekly. Downplay the talent on his teams.
Play up the talent on every other team so he's always the underdog.
Every other team is "stacked". His squads are Lebron and mannequins basically. Got it. This guy has a fan base that literally would defend the guy no matter what.

Sheep gonna sheep.

[Roundball_Rock]

He also faced a murderer's rows of elite SF's in the playoffs that year: Carmelo, George, Pierce and Durant. LeBron is playing in a good era for talent at his position. Imagine if he played in a weak era for position and could feast on role players on a regular basis in the playoffs.

Harden was not a top 5 player in 2012 but he was extremely talented and his production was constrained by his role. Look at how much his numbers jumped when given a featured role a few months later in Houston, although Harden in 13' was not a top 5 player, although he was top 10.

The OP, though, is an example of how historical judgments may be different than those made at the time. Not only are Westbrook, Durant and Harden top 5 players now they arguably are 2-3-4 in some order. Assuming Durant, Westbrook, Harden continue to flourish, the 2012 ring will look a lot better for LeBron 20 years from now, as will the 2013 ring against the Spurs dynasty. Don't forget the tough ECF with the Celtics. People say they were old--which is true--but what is neglected is how much Boston had left in the tank. They won 56 games in 11' and were right in the battle for 1st place in the East before the Perkins trade around the all-star break. They then made the ECF in 12', led 3-2 and also late in the fourth quarter of Game 7. They were hardly a washed up team in 2012.

The one knock that will persist against the Heat in those two years is their chief challenger in the East was felled by injuries to Rose, although people rarely factor that kind of stuff in when assessing runs. If Rose remained healthy, the Bulls would have been the 2012 champs.

[chazzy]

They won because Harden also hit em with a ton of bricks

[dubeta]

Yup can't believe Durant lost with HCA combined with having the most stacked team in the league :roll:

[CP343]

Dirk in '11 beat 2 of the top 3 players in the finals and 3 out of the top 10.

:bowdown:

[WindmiLL]

So basically with Lebron the narrative changes weekly.


Downplay the talent on his teams.
Play up the talent on every other team so he's always the underdog.

Every other team is "stacked". His squads are Lebron and mannequins basically.

Got it.

This guy has a fan base that literally would defend the guy no matter what.


lol


Where have you been the last 4 years?

''Heat the most stacked team of all time''

That was bascially the MOTO of every ISH poster.....

[dubeta]

Let's not forget that Serge Ibaka was considered better than Bosh as well. He was averaging like 3.5 blocks a game that year, while Bosh was coming off injury.

After LeBron, OKC had the next 4 best players :facepalm

[Alamо]

Let's not forget that Serge Ibaka was considered better than Bosh as well. He was averaging like 3.5 blocks a game that year, while Bosh was coming off injury.

After LeBron, OKC had the next 4 best players :facepalm



You don't really believe the bullshit you type do you? :lol

[beastee]

So basically with Lebron the narrative changes weekly.

Downplay the talent on his teams.

Play up the talent on every other team so he's always the underdog.

Every other team is "stacked". His squads are Lebron and mannequins basically.

Got it.

This guy has a fan base that literally would defend the guy no matter what.
You get all the rep!

http://i.imgur.com/g71BAcI.gif

[ninephive]

Harden was a really good player even then. He was their second leading scorer behind Durant in the WCF:

Durant: 29.5/7.5/5.3 on 0.532
Harden: 18.5/5.5/3.7 on 0.493
Westbrook: 18.2/5.8/7.3 on 0.378

Parker: 21.5/3.8/6.3 on 0.481
Ginobili: 18.5/3.8/3.3 on 0.500
Duncan: 17.0/9.8/2.7 on 0.440

[Budadiiii]

You don't really believe the bullshit you type do you? :lol
Nope, he's just a lonely autistic kid who seeks attention on here.

In the real world he would've died a long time ago. Kids like him get bullied in real life until they kill themselves. He lives for the cyber bullying on here though because no one can get physical with him.

In real life I would give him the most devastating atomic wedge and lock him into a trash can just to hear him squeal, like a little rat on a sticky pad. :D

[You Cant Ban Me]

Harden was a really good player even then. He was their second leading scorer behind Durant in the WCF:

Durant: 29.5/7.5/5.3 on 0.532
Harden: 18.5/5.5/3.7 on 0.493
Westbrook: 18.2/5.8/7.3 on 0.378


All they had to do was give James the max and he would of stayed.Would of been the best trio ever.

http://media3.giphy.com/media/TdmTcdoN3egaQ/giphy.gif

[Budadiiii]

Harden was a really good player even then. He was their second leading scorer behind Durant in the WCF:

Durant: 29.5/7.5/5.3 on 0.532
Harden: 18.5/5.5/3.7 on 0.493
Westbrook: 18.2/5.8/7.3 on 0.378

Parker: 21.5/3.8/6.3 on 0.481
Ginobili: 18.5/3.8/3.3 on 0.500
Duncan: 17.0/9.8/2.7 on 0.440
30/8/5 on 53% at age 23........

Durant is insane.

[Genaro]

And he had Bosh and Wade, Battier and Miller catching fire from beyond the arc.

[JT123]

And he had Bosh and Wade, Battier and Miller catching fire from beyond the arc.
Bosh was just coming back from a serious injury.
Wade shot 43%

Next :sleeping

[JT123]

So basically with Lebron the narrative changes weekly.


Downplay the talent on his teams.


Play up the talent on every other team so he's always the underdog.



Every other team is "stacked". His squads are Lebron and mannequins basically.




Got it.



This guy has a fan base that literally would defend the guy no matter what.
:facepalm Like it or not the Heat were underdogs in the 2012 Finals. Sad fact of life for haters like you. :sleeping