Lebron with 5 finals appearance by age 29

[Mr.Kite]

Kobe = 4
Duncan = 3
Jordan = 3
DurCant = 1

Who is stopping this man from being GOAT

[dubeta]

And would've correlated with 5 championships as well had his teammates showed up

[Mr.Kite]

And would've correlated with 5 championships as well had his teammates showed up

Agreed. If Bosh and Wade did something in 2011, Bron would have had another ring to his finger

[T_L_P]

And would've correlated with 5 championships as well had his teammates showed up

He got outplayed by Jason Terry and JJ Barea in one and shot 35% in another.

[Dr Hawk]

And would've correlated with 5 championships as well had his teammates showed up

What do you think about 2011 Finals? Do you agree with me that Lebron didn't play up to his standard?

[LAZERUSS]

Russell with seven titles by age 29.

Magic with five titles by age 29.

[Mr.Kite]

Russell with seven titles by age 29.

Magic with five titles by age 29.

Weak Era

Kareem and stacked

[LAZERUSS]

Weak Era

Kareem and stacked

Russell's teams went 10-0 in game seven's in his career (and in seven of those, his team won the game by four points, or fewer.)

Magic won a ring in a Finals in which Kareem averaged 13 ppg, 4 rpg, and shot .414 from the field. He also won a ring with a clinching title game in which Kareem was watching from his couch.

[Mr.Kite]

Russell's teams went 10-0 in game seven's in his career (and in seven of those, his team won the game by four points, or fewer.)

Magic won a ring in a Finals in which Kareem averaged 13 ppg, 4 rpg, and shot .414 from the field. He also won a ring with a clinching title game in which Kareem was watching from his couch.

Worthy, Scott, both 20+ ppg scorers

[LAZERUSS]

Worthy, Scott, both 20+ ppg scorers

Beat the Sixer teams of the early 80's, the "Bad Boys" of the late 80's, and the Celtics, with as many as FIVE HOFers, in the entire 80's...

[greatest-ever]

You can't judge GOATness just off finals appearences, especially when it's in a weak east, as well as going 2-3 while severely underperforming in 2 of them.

If Lebron wants to be goat he'll need to win at minimum 2 more rings along with acceptional longevity. I say its unlikely.

[dubeta]

We all know the agenda here

Propping up Magic makes Kareem look bad so that Wilt looks better in relation to Kareem

:facepalm


Everything is a way to put Wilt on a pedestal

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe = 4
Duncan = 3
Jordan = 3
DurCant = 1

Who is stopping this man from being GOAT

a bunch of role players

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CPYEit4.jpg

http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/09/05/110905062930416927.gif

[Budadiiii]

He got outplayed by Jason Terry and JJ Barea in one and shot 35% in another.
:roll:

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Who/what will stop LeBron from being GOAT?

How about his own performance in the finals? :roll:

LeBron's ceiling is top 4. He won't be GOAT.

[Mr.Kite]

Nevertheless, he is higher than Rapist

[LAZERUSS]

We all know the agenda here

Propping up Magic makes Kareem look bad so that Wilt looks better in relation to Kareem

:facepalm


Everything is a way to put Wilt on a pedestal

No agenda at all.

Magic is a Top-5 player All-time, and has a case for GOAT...as do Kareem and Wilt.

[LAZERUSS]

Beat the Sixer teams of the early 80's, the "Bad Boys" of the late 80's, and the Celtics, with as many as FIVE HOFers, in the entire 80's...

Magic won a title in a year in which the Sixers had Moses, Dr. J, Cheeks, Toney, Bobby Jones, and Barkley.

He won a title in a season in which the Celtics had Bird, McHale, DJ, Parish, and Walton.

And he won a title in a season in which the Pistons had Isiah, Dumars, Laimbeer, Dantley, and Rodman.

[Marchesk]

But how many seasons has he played? You can't just pick an arbitrary age like 29. It's not like Kareem or Dr J or Wilt could enter the league right out of HS.

[AirBourne92]

do this in the western conference and we will talk


is this seriously how you guys gauge greatness?

wow fkin pathetic

didnt expect more from lebron fans though

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

No agenda at all.

Magic is a Top-5 player All-time, and has a case for GOAT...as do Kareem and Wilt.


Agreed, Magics finals chops were extraordinary. Save for a few bonehead plays in '84, he never had a bad finals.

[Budadiiii]

> Plays in Eastern conference

> Abandoned his own state to collude with other superstars

> Has played on the best team for 5 straight years

All of this and only has 1 ring to show for it. I don't even count 2013.... lol. And 2012 was a year he played an inexperienced and poorly coached team in the finals. Pop and Carlisle OWN LeBron.

[LAZERUSS]

Agreed, Magics finals chops were extraordinary. Save for a few bonehead plays in '84, he never had a bad finals.

Even in the '84 Finals (and yes, he missed a key FT and a key FGA)...he put up an 18-8-14 .560 Finals.

[Hey Yo]

Russell's teams went 10-0 in game seven's in his career (and in seven of those, his team won the game by four points, or fewer.)

Magic won a ring in a Finals in which Kareem averaged 13 ppg, 4 rpg, and shot .414 from the field. He also won a ring with a clinching title game in which Kareem was watching from his couch.
You referring to Magic's rookie year?

Jamaal Wilkes scored 37pts that game.

The 5 out of 6 games Kareem did play in the Finals he avg. 33pts, 13.6 boards and 4.6 blocks.

[dubeta]

> Plays in Eastern conference

> Abandoned his own state to collude with other superstars

> Has played on the best team for 5 straight years

All of this and only has 1 ring to show for it. I don't even count 2013.... lol. And 2012 was a year he played an inexperienced and poorly coached team in the finals. Pop and Carlisle OWN LeBron.

Just say he played a weak-minded fraud in Durant who cried under the pressure, would make your argument stronger

[Budadiiii]

Just say he played a weak-minded fraud in Durant who cried under the pressure, would make your argument stronger
If 31 points on 55% is weak minded, what is 22 ppg on 35%? Or 10ppg drop off in the finals?

Pop and Carlisle OWN LeBron. Durant shits on both Mavs and Spurs, which proves Durant is the better player. Pop and Carlisle can easily stop LeBron but they can't stop Durant. They are considered the best coaches in the league and they don't have an answer for Durant.

[dubeta]

If 31 points on 55% is weak minded, what is 22 ppg on 35%? Or 10ppg drop off in the finals?

Pop and Carlisle OWN LeBron. Durant shits on both Mavs and Spurs, which proves Durant is the better player. Pop and Carlisle can easily stop LeBron but they can't stop Durant. They are considered the best coaches in the league and they don't have an answer for Durant.

So then it's a cycle considering LeBron OWNS Durant. Destroys him in the regular season and the playoffs. It's so bad that it's becoming modern day slavery the way LeBron takes Durants lunch money, while Durant accepts it like a timid passive aggressive female


And Durant has lost to both Dallas and Sanantonio the years they beat LeBron so you fail again, your argument makes zero sense, expected more from a 19 year old kid who has all the time in the world to try and make a convincing lie

[imnew09]

-Lost 4 - 0 against Spurs in the Final
-Got blown out by the Spurs last yr... lost almost 20 points EVERY GAME except for the one when they won.

Well needless to say

http://oi42.tinypic.com/2icbfnm.jpg

[sejoon101]

LeEast

[rmt]

Don't know about you but if I were a Lebron fan, the last thing I've be touting a horn about is that he's been to 5 Finals seeing as he's only won 2 of them and one of them by the very skin of his teeth (he should be thanking Ray Allen for the rest of his life for that 3pter) - could easily be just 1.

[Budadiiii]

So then it's a cycle considering LeBron OWNS Durant. Destroys him in the regular season and the playoffs. It's so bad that it's becoming modern day slavery the way LeBron takes Durants lunch money, while Durant accepts it like a timid passive aggressive female


And Durant has lost to both Dallas and Sanantonio the years they beat LeBron so you fail again, your argument makes zero sense, expected more from a 19 year old kid who has all the time in the world to try and make a convincing lie
Durant averaged 30 points against Dallas in 2011. His team lost in 5.

LeBron scored 17 and his team lost in 6. Just proves how superior LeBron's teammates have been.

Unfortunately I don't ever expect much from you. You constantly try to post like me but your autism hampers your ability to come off intelligent or entertaining. You really need to go make friends and get an education. Seeking attention on here 24/7 while constantly getting bullied is a sad way to live. Your mom should force you to go to a special school of some sort. Maybe join a club or sports league with other autistic kids as well. Just my advice. It's sad that I have more concern for you than your own mother.

[dubeta]

Durant averaged 30 points against Dallas in 2011. His team lost in 5.

LeBron scored 17 and his team lost in 6. Just proves how superior LeBron's teammates have been.

Unfortunately I don't ever expect much from you. You constantly try to post like me but your autism hampers your ability to come off intelligent or entertaining. You really need to go make friends and get an education. Seeking attention on here 24/7 while constantly getting bullied is a sad way to live. Your mom should force you to go to a special school of some sort. Maybe join a club or sports league with other autistic kids as well. Just my advice. It's sad that I have more concern for you than your own mother.

Nice, post stats at face value, and dodge the rest of my argument. Pathetic and weak.


You enjoy getting bullied and now you enjoy looking like an idiot.

[Budadiiii]

Nice, post stats at face value, and dodge the rest of my argument. Pathetic and weak.


You enjoy getting bullied and now you enjoy looking like an idiot.

You constantly try to post like me but your autism hampers your ability to come off intelligent or entertaining.

...

[G0ATbe]

And more finals losses than all of them:applause:

He's also the only one with a losing record:bowdown:

[the mesiah]

Worthy, Scott, both 20+ ppg scorers
GTFOH with that , Magic went to 3 finals AND WON finals MVP twice BEFORE they even stepped on court with Magic.He made them not the other way around.

[LAZERUSS]

GTFOH with that , Magic went to 3 finals AND WON finals MVP twice BEFORE they even stepped on court with Magic.He made them not the other way around.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Worthy and Scott without Magic... MUCH worse.

[CavaliersFTW]

Bill Russell with 8.

Plus an Olympic Gold and 2 NCAA titles.

[LAZERUSS]

Bill Russell with 8.

Plus an Olympic Gold and 2 NCAA titles.

Those don't count... just because.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kind of a really arbitrary age, right? Especially considering every player basically comes into the league at different ages. It's more about the seasons played. Can't go to the Finals if you're in Euroleague, the NBDL, or NCAA.

More like LeBron has 5 finals trips in 13 seasons. Winning only 2 of them.

More like Kobe had 6 finals trips in 13 seasons. Winning 4 of them. Shaq !!!

More like MJ had 6 finals trips in 13 seasons. Winning all 6 of them. 6x FMVPs

[dubeta]

Kind of a really arbitrary age, right? Especially considering every player basically comes into the league at different ages. It's more about the seasons played. Can't go to the Finals if you're in Euroleague, the NBDL, or NCAA.

More like LeBron has 5 finals trips in 13 seasons. Winning only 2 of them.

More like Kobe had 6 finals trips in 13 seasons. Winning 4 of them. Shaq !!!

More like MJ had 6 finals trips in 13 seasons. Winning all 6 of them. 6x FMVPs

Isnt it 5 in 11 seasons for LeBron?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Isnt it 5 in 11 seasons for LeBron?
I'm sorry, 12 seasons. This is LeBron's 12th season.

[CavaliersFTW]

Kind of a really arbitrary age, right? Especially considering every player basically comes into the league at different ages. It's more about the seasons played. Can't go to the Finals if you're in Euroleague, the NBDL, or NCAA.

More like LeBron has 5 finals trips in 13 seasons. Winning only 2 of them.

More like Kobe had 6 finals trips in 13 seasons. Winning 4 of them. Shaq !!!

More like MJ had 6 finals trips in 13 seasons. Winning all 6 of them. 6x FMVPs
Bill Russell 11 titles 5 MVP's, 12 trips to the Finals in 13 seasons. FMVP named after him. Add 2 more years to this arbitrary number of seasons and you add a Gold Medal and 2 NCAA titles.

Nobody won like Russell, period.

[Beastmode88]

Isnt it 5 in 11 seasons for LeBron?

5/11 sounds close to 2/5 at least :confusedshrug:

[dubeta]

5/11 sounds close to 2/5 at least :confusedshrug:

How does 2/68 sound?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Bill Russell 11 titles 5 MVP's, 12 trips to the Finals in 13 seasons. FMVP named after him. Add 2 more years to this arbitrary number of seasons and you add a Gold Medal and 2 NCAA titles.

Nobody won like Russell, period.
None of the guy's we're talking about played in league infancy like Russell, with minimal teams, along with a ridiculous stacked roster. And the three guys we are mentioning were great on both sides of the ball. Unlike Russell.

[Done_And_Done]

Jsisjwvdjsiwibdbdsjwhwbdbsbsvsjisibwv

[Taller than CP3]

2 rings lmfao what's the point of going to the Finals if you're just going to lose all the time?

[CavaliersFTW]

None of the guy's we're talking about played in league infancy like Russell, with minimal teams, along with a ridiculous stacked roster. And the three guys we are mentioning were great on both sides of the ball. Unlike Russell.
Was there a point in there somewhere under all those excuses?

[Gotterdammerung]

At age 29:

http://i1.minus.com/iBegjhmjz4dxn.jpg

[SamuraiSWISH]

Was there a point in there somewhere under all those excuses?
Those 3 guys are better basketball players than Russell. Keep up dude. I know you're from Cleveland but it's not excuse.

[CavaliersFTW]

Those 3 guys are better basketball players than Russell. Keep up dude. I know you're from Cleveland but it's not excuse.
Pretty sure on a playground you pick Bill Russell over any one of those guys if you intend to increase your chances of staying on the court. You want to win, you pick Russell for your team, period.

Phil Jackson coached MJ and Kobe. Guess who he'd pick to start a team.

[dubeta]

Pretty sure on a playground you pick Bill Russell over any one of those guys if you intend to increase your chances of staying on the court. You want to win, you pick Russell for your team, period.

Phil Jackson coached MJ and Kobe. Guess who he'd pick to start a team.

Pretty sure only place Russell could play in today's day, is in the playground

[04mzwach]

Kobe = 4
Duncan = 3
Jordan = 3
DurCant = 1

Who is stopping this man from being GOAT
He's in the East. Lets not pretend like it doesn't make a difference.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Pretty sure on a playground you pick Bill Russell over any one of those guys if you intend to increase your chances of staying on the court. You want to win, you pick Russell for your team, period.
Not really. I wouldn't pick Ben Wallace first either.

Have you ever even played street ball? I didn't think people could afford basketball shoes in Cleveland. And no game has higher stakes than Chicago. You could get killed on the court all things considering if you underperform for gangster teammates.

Russell would be the anti-thesis of play ground ball.

And whose going to get him the ball without guys like Cousy, Sam Jones, Jo Jo White or Havlicek to score for him or carry the offensive load?

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Not really. I wouldn't pick Ben Wallace first either.

Have you ever even played street ball? I didn't think people could afford basketball shoes in Cleveland. And no game has higher stakes than Chicago. You could get killed on the court all things considering if you underperform for gangster teammates.

Russell would be the anti-thesis of play ground ball.

And whose going to get him the ball without guys like Cousy, Sam Jones, Jo Jo White or Havlicek to score for him or carry the offensive load?

That parts a little unfair. The Celts were never a great offensive team and Russ made all those guys looks even better than they were. Their defense was ALWAYS centerfold: from '58-'69 they were near the bottom of the league just about every year in offensive rating. But Russell's historically amazing D kept their championship aspirations afloat.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

At age 29:

http://i1.minus.com/iBegjhmjz4dxn.jpg

If MJ played as many games as LeBron with the statistics he accumulated, he would have the following stats:
25670 points.
4974 rebounds.
4720 assists.
2166 steals
856 blocks.

[No_Look604]

Kobe = 4
Duncan = 3
Jordan = 3
DurCant = 1

Who is stopping this man from being GOAT

How about actually coming out victorious in these Finals appearances?

But who are we kidding, he has no chance at GOAT.

I've never seen someone get this much help year after year.

[BuffaloBill]

http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/09/05/110905062930416927.gif



:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Springsteen]

Have you ever even played street ball? I didn't think people could afford basketball shoes in Cleveland. And no game has higher stakes than Chicago. You could get killed on the court all things considering if you underperform for gangster teammates.

Are you seriously bragging about how a city full of teens shooting eachother up after games is better a city of people who can't afford sneakers during the game? :lol

[buddha]

weak conference era, there's a reason he is 2/5 and should be 1/5.

[hahaitme]

Russell with seven titles by age 29.

Magic with five titles by age 29.

Thanks captain obvious but we know Bill Russell is the GOAT

[SamuraiSWISH]

Are you seriously bragging about how a city full of teens shooting eachother up after games is better a city of people who can't afford sneakers during the game? :lol
Chicago isn't a city full of that ... Cleveland is a city full of poor people.

[Showtime2001]

http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/original700/jason-terry-lebron-james-2010-11-27-22-10-32.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pmktzFF.jpg
http://s10.postimg.org/ctc44c0ll/11005937_10205160267060541_1515375179_n_jpg_oh_c.j pg

[sportjames23]

Kobe = 4
Duncan = 3
Jordan = 3
DurCant = 1

Who is stopping this man from being GOAT


5 appearances with only 2 rings to show for it. And he BARELY got the second one. He needs to name his next son after Ray.

Ray Allen James.

[sportjames23]

a bunch of role players

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CPYEit4.jpg

http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/09/05/110905062930416927.gif


Bruh, hold this W.

[Prime_Shaq]

Kobe = 4
Duncan = 3
Jordan = 3
DurCant = 1

Who is stopping this man from being GOAT
His body is perfect to play the game of basketball, the only thing stopping him is the mental aspect of it. Oh yeah, and a guy named Michael Jordan and Peak Shaq

[Beastmode88]

The ether is strong in these thread. Carry on I approve.

[sportjames23]

Lebron family gettin BODIED in this thread.

[Wade's Rings]

Lebron family gettin BODIED in this thread.

It's Pretty much 1 Guy(Dubeta/JT/RounsMounofReb/etc) posting on Multiple Accounts.

[sportjames23]

It's Pretty much 1 Guy(Dubeta/JT/RounsMounofReb/etc) posting on Multiple Accounts.


Sad, ain't it?

[rmt]

http://i.imgur.com/pmktzFF.jpg

That series should disqualify him from top 10 ever. Not only is his series point average less than Jason Terry but Terry got his 18 pts in only 32.5 mins to Lebron's 17.8 pts in 43.7 mins (in addition to 2 team mates out-scoring him in less minutes). That's pretty bad for any player (in his prime) aspiring to top 10 position.