Lebron will get to top 10 all time next year [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

COnDEMnED

02-22-2015, 07:52 PM

Is there any reason not to believe he can play for 7 more years?
Logic, reason, and biological deterioration. If he makes it 7 more years, it will be at 10 mpg, third string off the bench.

JT123

02-22-2015, 07:53 PM

Logic, reason, and biological deterioration. If he makes it 7 more years, it will be at 10 mpg, third string off the bench.
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Mr.Kite

02-22-2015, 07:54 PM

Logic, reason, and biological deterioration. If he makes it 7 more years, it will be at 10 mpg, third string off the bench.

Bron relies solely on skills unlike jordan who dominated the 80s while being a more athletic player

COnDEMnED

02-22-2015, 07:57 PM

He could win his 4th title next year
When did he win his third? He could also be 2/7 next year.

Mr.Kite

02-22-2015, 07:58 PM

When did he win his third? He could also be 2/7 next year.

3/6 bro. you mad????

JT123

02-22-2015, 08:00 PM

When did he win his third? He could also be 2/7 next year.
Let's not bring Kobe's Finals MVP ration into this. :no:

Beastmode88

02-22-2015, 08:01 PM

When did he win his third? He could also be 2/7 next year.

If he goes 2/7 wow.. Even kobe's 5/7

Mr.Kite

02-22-2015, 08:02 PM

Let's not bring Kobe's Finals MVP ration into this. :no:

what are you talking about kobe is 0/7

but if you count asterisks, its 5*/7

1987_Lakers

02-22-2015, 08:03 PM

He's already in the Top 10, take it from a guy who knows more about NBA History than 90% of the people here.

Anyone who denies this is a hater. Plain and simple.

Mr.Kite

02-22-2015, 08:04 PM

He's already in the Top 10, take it from a guy who knows more about NBA History than 90% of the people here.

Anyone who denies this is a hater. Plain and simple.

we already know...this is about the scoring list

COnDEMnED

02-22-2015, 08:11 PM

Bron relies solely on skills unlike jordan who dominated the 80s while being a more athletic player
If you can't play because your body is breaking down, you can't run or can't shoot...it doesn't matter what your game is based on. Lebron has too many miles to not hit a significant injury in the next 7 years. When he deteriorates, it will likely be fast and severe.

Mr.Kite

02-22-2015, 08:13 PM

If you can't play because your body is breaking down, you can't run or can't shoot...it doesn't matter what your game is based on. Lebron has too many miles to not hit a significant injury in the next 7 years. When he deteriorates, it will likely be fast and severe.

so kobe's done?

COnDEMnED

02-22-2015, 08:17 PM

so kobe's done?
Yes. Has been done. Lebron showing signs too. It wont be pretty.

SouBeachTalents

02-22-2015, 08:20 PM

Yes. Has been done. Lebron showing signs too. It wont be pretty.

Lol, he's been averaging 27, 6, 7 on 50% since coming back from injury, going 18-2 in that stretch. Showing signs of being done doe

lilteapot

02-22-2015, 08:23 PM

Logic, reason, and biological deterioration. If he makes it 7 more years, it will be at 10 mpg, third string off the bench.
lol :oldlol:

He's supposed to have deteriorated significantly this year and he's still averaging like 26ppg, and he hasn't relied entirely on athleticism this year either. There is no reason to believe he can't be at least a 20ppg scorer for the next 5-7 years.

sportjames23

02-22-2015, 08:26 PM

He could win his 4th title next year

:biggums:

lilteapot

02-22-2015, 08:36 PM

If he plays the rest of the 25 games (which he probably won't, he'll likely sit out the last few games, depending on their seeding) and averages 25 he has a chance to reach 25,000 points. Could potentially end up 10th all time by the end of next season.

it's pretty incredible.

dubeta

02-22-2015, 08:45 PM

LeBron passing Jordan in scoring automatically makes him the GOAT, no argument

Beastmode88

02-22-2015, 08:48 PM

LeBron passing Jordan in scoring automatically makes him the GOAT, no argument

Kobe already passed MJ on scoring but he's not considered the GOAT?

SouBeachTalents

02-22-2015, 08:51 PM

Kobe already passed MJ on scoring but he's not considered the GOAT?

Well Karl Malone has all of them topped, so he's GOAT :bowdown: :bowdown:

Beastmode88

02-22-2015, 09:02 PM

Well Karl Malone has all of them topped, so he's GOAT :bowdown: :bowdown:

KAJ :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

looks like lebran has a lot more people to go thru.

Richesly

02-22-2015, 09:05 PM

LeBron is a player than relies on his athleticism. Those players usually retire at 34 - 36.

Mr.Kite

02-22-2015, 09:06 PM

LeBron is a player than relies on his athleticism. Those players usually retire at 34 - 36.

:facepalm

Bron has more skill than jordan and kobe

COnDEMnED

02-22-2015, 11:18 PM

:facepalm

Bron has more skill than jordan and kobe
Those skills mean nothing when you're sitting on the bench in a suit. You can have all the skills in the world, and it wont mean shit if you have a career ending injury. When the deterioration happens, it will be swift for Lebron. His mileage and style of play will be a factor in his decline. 3-4 years tops, not 7.

Edit: Also, no he doesn't.

JT123

02-22-2015, 11:25 PM

Those skills mean nothing when you're sitting on the bench in a suit. You can have all the skills in the world, and it wont mean shit if you have a career ending injury. When the deterioration happens, it will be swift for Lebron. His mileage and style of play will be a factor in his decline. 3-4 years tops, not 7.
Style of play? :wtf: :facepalm Lebron's play style has resulted in zero major injuries in a 12 year career. When do you ever see Lebron completely out of control on the court? He also makes sure to listen to his body. Not the type to play 48 minutes a night for 2 weeks just so he can get all the credit for leading a team to the playoffs. :confusedshrug:

Prime_Shaq

02-22-2015, 11:27 PM

:facepalm

Bron has more skill than jordan and kobe
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Beastmode88

02-22-2015, 11:31 PM

:facepalm

Bron has more skill than jordan and kobe

If you mean his basketball talents including his flops then yes.

JT123

02-22-2015, 11:32 PM

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Better passer, finisher, and 3 point shooter than both of them. :confusedshrug:
Only thing Kobe and Jordan have on Lebron is mid range shooting, a skill which is kinda outdated in the current 3 point era.

gts

02-22-2015, 11:32 PM

:facepalm

Bron has more skill than jordan and kobe

oh christ.... this place :lol

COnDEMnED

02-22-2015, 11:38 PM

Style of play? :wtf: :facepalm Lebron's play style has resulted in zero major injuries in a 12 year career. When do you ever see Lebron completely out of control on the court? He also makes sure to listen to his body. Not the type to play 48 minutes a night for 2 weeks just so he can get all the credit for leading a team to the playoffs. :confusedshrug:
His style of play used to be running over people like bowling pins in the paint and throwing up a shot to get free throws. His style also used to be chasing people down on the fast break and blocking shots. He's changed those so far ( or can't do them anymore ). He still dunks. When you get old, shit happens. All it takes is a bad landing. Chances are he won't retire injury free. Time will tell what type of injury it will be or how it will change his game. It happens to everyone, it will happen to Lebron. We'll see if he will still be effective after. If he does make it to 7 more years, he'll be role player and a shell.

LAZERUSS

02-22-2015, 11:51 PM

Lebron's career resume is already Top-10 worthy.

4 MVPs, 2 rings, 2 FMVPs, a scoring title, all defensive teams, first-team all-NBA selections. You name it, he's done it.

You would be hard-pressed to find 10 other players in NBA history that have accomplished what he has.

JT123

02-22-2015, 11:58 PM

His style of play used to be running over people like bowling pins in the paint and throwing up a shot to get free throws. His style also used to be chasing people down on the fast break and blocking shots. He's changed those so far ( or can't do them anymore ). He still dunks. When you get old, shit happens. All it takes is a bad landing. Chances are he won't retire injury free. Time will tell what type of injury it will be or how it will change his game. It happens to everyone, it will happen to Lebron. We'll see if he will still be effective after. If he does make it to 7 more years, he'll be role player and a shell.
Exactly. Lebron knows his limits and doesn't try to play like he's still 22. Everyone does get injured, but acting like it is guaranteed to happen in the next 3 years is silly. Karl Malone didn't start suffering serious injuries until his last season in the NBA, 19 years in. If Malone could last that long there is no reason to believe Lebron won't.

Mr.Kite

02-23-2015, 12:02 AM

Bron plays the right way. When he's exhausted, he listens to his body.

When he was cramping, he would ask his coach to take him out of the game to avoid detriment to his team

Ass Dan

02-23-2015, 12:07 AM

http://espn.go.com/nba/history/leaders

he will only be 31 and in the top 10. Play another 7 hears, he will easily overtake kareem by several thousand points

he already is top ten all time fakkit.

NEXT!!!!!!!!!

Mr.Kite

02-23-2015, 12:08 AM

he already is top ten all time fakkit.

NEXT!!!!!!!!!

you are an idiot

COnDEMnED

02-23-2015, 12:11 AM

Exactly. Lebron knows his limits and doesn't try to play like he's still 22. Everyone does get injured, but acting like it is guaranteed to happen in the next 3 years is silly. Karl Malone didn't start suffering serious injuries until his last season in the NBA, 19 years in. If Malone could last that long there is no reason to believe Lebron won't.
Right, but all I'm saying is the mileage he put on his body while he "was" doing those things will most likely impact the type of injury he may have. He's changed them now, but you can't undo 10+ years of wear and tear just because you change your play style.

J Shuttlesworth

02-23-2015, 12:36 AM

LeBron is a player than relies on his athleticism. Those players usually retire at 34 - 36.
I would agree with you on this in say 2008, but his skill has improved a lot over the last few years, especially in Miami. His jumper is much better, his post game, his off ball play is all much more solid than it used to be when he was pure athleticism. Look at him earlier this year. He was clearly a shell of himself athletically due to injuries, but was still putting up like 26/7/5 or so. He'll probably be a 26/5/5 minimum player for 3 or 4 more years, and then he'll probably be more like 18/7/4 when he's lost his athleticism. His passing game will help him be a very effective player when he's old.

Deuce Bigalow

02-23-2015, 03:24 AM

MJ
KAJ
Magic
Bird
Russell
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq

8 then you have Bran/Wilt/Hakeem so he's already arguably top 10

BigTicket

02-23-2015, 03:27 AM

Duncan and Pierce might reach the top 10 before Lebron does. Obviously Lebron will eventually overtake them, but they might stay ahead of him next year.

SouBeachTalents

02-23-2015, 03:43 AM

Duncan and Pierce might reach the top 10 before Lebron does. Obviously Lebron will eventually overtake them, but they might stay ahead of him next year.

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

funnystuff

02-23-2015, 03:48 AM

Duncan and Pierce might reach the top 10 before Lebron does. Obviously Lebron will eventually overtake them, but they might stay ahead of him next year.
:wtf:

Mr Feeny

02-23-2015, 03:57 AM

MJ
KAJ
Magic
Bird
Russell
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq

8 then you have Bran/Wilt/Hakeem so he's already arguably top 10

That's not a bad list but Kobe Bryant is not a better basketball player than Shaq, Lebron, or Hakeem for that matter. Forget hype and the L.A. market. There is simply no way he is a better player than those 3. So, yes Lebron is probably top 10 at the moment. Maybe, comfortably so.

poido123

02-23-2015, 04:14 AM

Bron relies solely on skills unlike jordan who dominated the 80s while being a more athletic player

did you write that with a straight face? Seriously :lol

Jordan lays a dump all over Lebron when it comes to fundamental skills. Lebron uses a combination of body size and athleticism for a lot of his scoring. Jordan has elite footwork and post game that leaves Lebron for dead.

Deuce Bigalow

02-23-2015, 04:19 AM

That's not a bad list but Kobe Bryant is not a better basketball player than Shaq, Lebron, or Hakeem for that matter. Forget hype and the L.A. market. There is simply no way he is a better player than those 3. So, yes Lebron is probably top 10 at the moment. Maybe, comfortably so.
Better than LeBron, yes. Shaq? No. Hakeem? Peak Hakeem was better but Kobe has a clear resume advantage over Hakeem and at worst is equal with Shaq in that regard. For me Duncan/Kobe/Shaq can be ranked in any order really..

SouBeachTalents

02-23-2015, 04:23 AM

Better than LeBron, yes. Shaq? No. Hakeem? Peak Hakeem was better but Kobe has a clear resume advantage over Hakeem and at worst is equal with Shaq in that regard.

I don't even think that's true. Kobe's made a couple more All NBA & All Defensive teams, but they both have 1 MVP and 2 Finals MVP's, while Hakeem has 2 DPOY's. And yes, I know about the rings argument, but would you really doubt Hakeem couldn't win 3 rings with a peak Jordan?

Deuce Bigalow

02-23-2015, 04:28 AM

I don't even think that's true. Kobe's made a couple more All NBA & All Defensive teams, but they both have 1 MVP and 2 Finals MVP's, while Hakeem has 2 DPOY's. And yes, I know about the rings argument, but would you really doubt Hakeem couldn't win 3 rings with a peak Jordan?
Well he didn't, and let's not forget how much help Shaq needed beating the Spurs. A case can be made that Kobe was the best player on the court for each of those playoff series wins over San Antonio in 01 and 02.

Prime_Shaq

02-23-2015, 04:34 AM

MJ
KAJ
Magic
Bird
Russell
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq

8 then you have Bran/Wilt/Hakeem so he's already arguably top 10
:wtf:
I hope that's not in order

ArbitraryWater

02-23-2015, 04:35 AM

pauk

02-23-2015, 05:16 AM

Considering he will have a total of ~2000 pts (total ~25300 pts) at the end of the season he might pass also Ray Allen, Patrick Ewing, Jerry West & Reggie Miller....

Next season, 25300 + 2000 pts = 27300.... all he will need is only 1700 (20 ppg in 82 games) there to pass Hakeem for Top 10 next year.... So yea, Top 10 next year is a guarantee unless he has a career altering injury.....

BigTicket

02-23-2015, 05:18 AM

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

:wtf:

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :crazysam: :crazysam: :crazysam:

Are you people too dumb to read the OP ? This thread is about scoring, not about overall greatness, and Pierce is currently 15th while Duncan is 16th.

Deuce Bigalow

02-23-2015, 05:19 AM

Are you people too dumb to read the OP ? This thread is about scoring, not about overall greatness, and Pierce is currently 15th while Duncan is 16th.
Oh shit :oldlol:

RoundMoundOfReb

02-23-2015, 05:20 AM

:applause:

He's already top 10 on my all time list though.

pauk

02-23-2015, 05:20 AM

Are you people too dumb to read the OP ? This thread is about scoring, not about overall greatness, and Pierce is currently 15th while Duncan is 16th.

:applause:

He's already top 10 on my all time list though.

That he is in top 10 in that regard is a couple of years old news, only the toughest Lebron hater doesnt have him at top 10, this is about scoring.

ArbitraryWater

02-23-2015, 12:12 PM

Oh shit :oldlol:

Nikka you thought it was all-time ranking also

MJ
KAJ
Magic
Bird
Russell
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq

8 then you have Bran/Wilt/Hakeem so he's already arguably top 10

:kobe:

IMObjective

02-23-2015, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Kite

Bron has more skill than jordan and kobe

oh christ.... this place :lolOP is a fakkit. Was a big pro-Kobe/anti-Lebron troll, in the past few days decides to switch sides on a whim, bashing kobe and ******ging LeBron hard. I see one of two reasons a) being a kobe troll wasn't getting him enough attention b) finally decided kobe doesn't have much of a future anymore and jumped on a new bandwagon. Given the timing, option a seems more likely. But this thread proves that no one even knew who he was before.

Mr Feeny

02-23-2015, 04:43 PM

Better than LeBron, yes. Shaq? No. Hakeem? Peak Hakeem was better but Kobe has a clear resume advantage over Hakeem and at worst is equal with Shaq in that regard. For me Duncan/Kobe/Shaq can be ranked in any order really..We can agree to disagree. I don't think he's a better player than any of those four and certainly wouldn't rank him above them all time. He's probably just underneath them with not much to separate them in the eyes of most people.