How would you rate Dwyane Wade's performance in 2011 finals?

[keep-itreal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAU0AjxHL18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0SPtT_Zass

:eek: Amazing.

[SouBeachTalents]

Phenomenal in Games 2-4 (wasn't great in the clutch)
Very good in Game 1
Played well in Game 5
Struggled in Game 6

[BasedTom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zkX6kfnWbk

[navy]

Only way he could lose that series is if his second option turned into a worse player than Jason Terry.

[JT123]

C-

Nice stats, very little impact in the clutch.

[navy]

C-

Nice stats, very little impact in the clutch.
What's Lebron's grade? Dude averaged 2 points and an airball per fourth quarter. While getting splashed on by Jason Terry :oldlol:

[Smoke117]

Eh....lol...you stupid ****ing children.

[JT123]

What's Lebron's grade? Dude averaged 2 points and an airball per fourth quarter. While getting splashed on by Jason Terry :oldlol:
Lebron gets a C. We have to remember he was deferring cause he wanted Wade to get one last Finals MVP. 18/7/7 is perfectly acceptable 2nd option numbers. I'd probably give Lebron a B if it weren't for the 8 point game.

[navy]

Lebron gets a C. We have to remember he was deferring cause he wanted Wade to get one last Finals MVP. 18/7/7 is perfectly acceptable 2nd option numbers. I'd probably give Lebron a B if it weren't for the 8 point game.
What about his piss poor defense?

[Joyner82reload]

Only way he could lose that series is if his second option turned into a worse player than Jason Terry.

Bosh played better than Jason Terry, what are you talking about?

Want a hilarious LeBron stat? LeBron had more fouls+turnovers in the Finals than he did field goals made

[BasedTom]

dyson terry

[BasedTom]

i like wade

[greatest-ever]

Lebron gets a C. We have to remember he was deferring cause he wanted Wade to get one last Finals MVP. 18/7/7 is perfectly acceptable 2nd option numbers. I'd probably give Lebron a B if it weren't for the 8 point game.
So Lebron gets a C while Wade gets a C-? Wow ok dude you shouldn't be taken serious with a garbage comment like that.

Anyway, yeah Wade was excellent in games 1-4, he got hurt at the end of game 5 otherwise had a decent game then was so-so in game 6. It honestly could've been a heat sweep if they didn't blow thAt lead in game 2 and then have an 8 pt performance from lbj in game 4.

[ImKobe]

D-Wade was the best player in the Finals.

Meanwhile, Bran was making national news for disappearing in the Finals :kobe:

[Hey Yo]

Only way he could lose that series is if his second option turned into a worse player than Jason Terry.
Or if he didn't agree to be second option for the sake of Wade in the first place.

Why change what wasn't broke?

[Dragic4Life]

Can we just stop... this is exhausting.

[Wade's Rings]

An A-.

Too bad Lebron choked away Wade's 2nd Finals MVP.

[Dragic4Life]

An A-.

Too bad Lebron choked away Wade's 2nd Finals MVP.
No. Had they won, Lebron would get the FMVP.

Idiot.

[T_L_P]

Dude averaged 2 points and an airball per fourth quarter.

Holy shit. :roll:

[Dragic4Life]

Mods clean up please.

[Hey Yo]

An A-.

Too bad Lebron choked away Wade's 2nd Finals MVP.
So now 2nd option's get blamed and not the leader?

I guess that means the 2011 finals is the only losing postseason series James can be blamed for.

[navy]

Or if he didn't agree to be second option for the sake of Wade in the first place.

Why change what wasn't broke?
Nonsense.

D Wade was also the "first option" in the Celtics series. Lebron just choked.

[Dragic4Life]

Nonsense.

D Wade was also the "first option" in the Celtics series. Lebron just choked.
No he didn't.

Wade froze him out in an attempt to snatch FMVP, cost us the series.

[greatest-ever]

No. Had they won, Lebron would get the FMVP.

Idiot.
Wtf are you talking about? Wade averaged 27 7 5 on 62 ts% in the series, lebron 18 7 7 54 ts%, the only way lBj would've won it is if he outperformed wade which he wasn't close to doing.

[Dragic4Life]

Wtf are you talking about? Wade averaged 27 7 5 on 62 ts% in the series, lebron 18 7 7 54 ts%, the only way lBj would've won it is if he outperformed wade which he wasn't close to doing.
In order for them to have won the series, Lebron would avg 30/8/8.

Remember, this is hypothetical. Had Wade not sabotage Lebron by freezing him out of the offense, we would've had one more chip.

[Hey Yo]

Nonsense.

D Wade was also the "first option" in the Celtics series. Lebron just choked.
No he wasn't.

[greatest-ever]

No he wasn't.
It was a 1a/1b in that series. Wade averaged more points but Lebron had a more all around game and hit most of the clutch shots.

[greatest-ever]

In order for them to have won the series, Lebron would avg 30/8/8.

Remember, this is hypothetical. Had Wade not sabotage Lebron by freezing him out of the offense, we would've had one more chip.
Sabotage lebron? Wow. If you think that it's clear u didn't even watch the series. Lebron clearly was passive and wouldn't attack. And he was totally afraid to shoot in crunch time.

[PJR]

Scoring 8 points on 3 of 11 shooting in a pivotal swing game 4 would more accurately describe a 'sabotoge'.....

[Dragic4Life]

No.

Go and watch the series again, without bias.

Wade pulled an Isiah Thomas and FROZE Lebron out of the offense. He clearly wanted the FMVP for himself and pathetically ended up costing the series by limiting the best player on the team.

[Akhenaten]

No.

Go and watch the series again, without bias.

Wade pulled an Isiah Thomas and FROZE Lebron out of the offense. He clearly wanted the FMVP for himself and pathetically ended up costing the series by limiting the best player on the team.

I know you're just trolling and don't actually have any belief in the rubbish you are typing but I will play along. If Wade was hell bent on winning FMVP, why did the Heat run their offense through Lebron in Game 2 after Wade hit that corner 3 to put us up 15 points?

I actually blame Wade for losing that series because he CLEARLY deferred to Lebron in the last 6 minutes of Game 2 in a forced attempt to assuage Lebron's ego.

Wade was on fire that game, he should have finished with 40+ points and closed the game out for us. Instead of worrying about finishing the game he worried about Lebron's ego smh. That decision cost us that series, our second title and his 2nd Finals MVP.

[Dragic4Life]

Wade HIMSELF said it was after he gave up the "leadership/alpha" role to Lebron that the Heat won title.

Look at the Dallas series and it's obvious Wade was having a hard time giving up that alpha role on the team. He was the one struggling mentally. He froze Lebron and he himself froze up in his own mind. Had nothing to do with stats, the series was lost due to chemistry.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Better finals performance than any of Kobes. But its not too hard to do after all.

[Papaya Petee]

No.

Go and watch the series again, without bias.

Wade pulled an Isiah Thomas and FROZE Lebron out of the offense. He clearly wanted the FMVP for himself and pathetically ended up costing the series by limiting the best player on the team.
Yep, you're right. Like game 2 for example. Wade has 36 points in the beggining of the 4th quarter, hits a 3 pointer to put the Heat up 15. What happens after? LeBron shoots jumpshot after jumpshot, not letting hot Wade touch the ball, Mavs go on a run and win the game.

Or maybe lets talk about game 4? Biggest game of the series, Heat lose a close one, with your idol going 3-11 for 8 points.... It's Wades fault LeBron could only score 8 points in the biggest game of his career up to that point.

Or lets discuss game 5, where Wades "ballhogging" allowed Jason Terry to hit every single 3 in LeBrons face, icing the game taunting him like a b**** he was.

[Cold soul]

Wade was robbed his 2nd FMVP reward due to Lebron epic Finals choke job that no one will ever forget.

[Dragic4Life]

Wade was robbed his 2nd FMVP reward due to Lebron epic Finals choke job that no one will ever forget.
No he wasn't.

Lebron would've won FMVP had they win the series.

[moaz]

unfortunately he first hurt his eye

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0602/nba_g_wade15_576.jpg

and then caught the flu

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/wade-james-mock.jpg

[Akhenaten]

Wade HIMSELF said it was after he gave up the "leadership/alpha" role to Lebron that the Heat won title.

Look at the Dallas series and it's obvious Wade was having a hard time giving up that alpha role on the team. He was the one struggling mentally. He froze Lebron and he himself froze up in his own mind. Had nothing to do with stats, the series was lost due to chemistry.

So surely Lebron dominated Game 5 with Wade only playing 34 mins and taking 12 FG's.

Surely when Wade went down with that back injury, Lebron dominated in that time span without Wade hogging the ball right?

Or was Wade telepathically "freezing him out" from the visitor's lockerroom :roll:

[Dragic4Life]

So surely Lebron dominated Game 5 with Wade only playing 34 mins and taking 12 FG's.

Surely when Wade went down with that back injury, Lebron dominated in that time span without Wade hogging the ball right?

Or was Wade telepathically "freezing him out" from the visitor's lockerroom :roll:
Why do I have to repeat?:facepalm

It was a chemistry problem. Wade broke down mentally and caused a stir in team chemistry. NEVER would I EVER imagine Lebron posting those numbers without good reason.

[Akhenaten]

Yep, you're right. Like game 2 for example. Wade has 36 points in the beggining of the 4th quarter, hits a 3 pointer to put the Heat up 15. What happens after? LeBron shoots jumpshot after jumpshot, not letting hot Wade touch the ball, Mavs go on a run and win the game.



No, Wade clearly deferred to Lebron and it's clear that's what the coaching staff strategized also, because coming off that DAL timeout it was Lebron James in PNR the rest of the game.

It was mystifying at the time to watch, now it isn't, they made a concerted effort to make Lebron into "the man". It's clear now that mattered to them and Wade more than winning that game.

[Akhenaten]

Why do I have to repeat?:facepalm

It was a chemistry problem. Wade broke down mentally and caused a stir in team chemistry. NEVER would I EVER imagine Lebron posting those numbers without good reason.

So why didn't he take over game 5 and 6 with Wade injured and out the way?

[Dragic4Life]

So why didn't he take over game 5 and 6 with Wade injured and out the way?
Look at this fool.:facepalm

Chemistry and mental issues affect you for DAYS. The whole series was down the drain when Wade screwed the mentality of the roster.

[ArbitraryWater]

Yep, you're right. Like game 2 for example. Wade has 36 points in the beggining of the 4th quarter, hits a 3 pointer to put the Heat up 15. What happens after? LeBron shoots jumpshot after jumpshot, not letting hot Wade touch the ball, Mavs go on a run and win the game.

Or maybe lets talk about game 4? Biggest game of the series, Heat lose a close one, with your idol going 3-11 for 8 points.... It's Wades fault LeBron could only score 8 points in the biggest game of his career up to that point.

Or lets discuss game 5, where Wades "ballhogging" allowed Jason Terry to hit every single 3 in LeBrons face, icing the game taunting him like a b**** he was.


Oh please, stop the game 2 talk.. Wade had a better series no doubt, but Wade's biggest mistake of the series was to stop taking shots after he had poured in 36 with 8 minutes left and a 15 point lead.

And the game 5 stuff, really? Like it was LeBron's fault Terry hit it, even though he was right in his grill? I expect better of you.

[97 bulls]

What about Wades piss poor defense? Damn theres two sides of the ball. Wade could've stepped up and guarded Terry or Berea

[JerrySeinfeld]

So how exactly did the Mavericks lose game 2?

[AceManIII]

Wade "froze" Lebron out?!?

https://warosu.org/data/fa/img/0071/66/1383241638249.jpg

[Dragic4Life]

Wade "froze" Lebron out?!?
Yes.

I don't wanna repeat myself. Look at the previous posts.

[jlip]

B- at best

From a post back in 2011:


I've said this before. This point seems to be lost with all of the attention on Lebron. Wade, after coming on national TV making public declarations about how he was now the "captain" and the team's "leader", failed his team when they needed him most also. He only effectively closed out 1 game in the finals, and that was game 3. After being great during the first 47 minutes of game 4 he chokes in the final 30 seconds of a one possession game. He misses a game tying free throw and then fumbles a routine inbound pass almost creating a turnover forcing Mike Miller into a tough shot on the final play of again, a one possession game. Then in the final, do- or- die game 6, the Heat's self proclaimed leader has by far his worst game of the series scoring only 17pts on 37.5% shooting.

The OP is correct. Despite the inexplicably horrid performance of Lebron, Wade has been vastly let off the hook. Wade's reputation of being clutch and able to "carry" a team is riding almost solely off a questionably officiated Finals that happened half a decade ago. In this season's Finals we saw the same Wade who hadn't gotten out of the first round since then. In the series that he has been eliminated in since '06, he has been known to often have a few dominating games early, only to almost invariably in the close out game proceed to have his worst shooting performance of the entire series. Go check the box scores. It happened in '07, 10, and again this year. His team missed the '08 playoffs because of injuries. In '09 his game 7 was his 3rd worst shooting performances of that series against the Hawks.

[JT123]

B- at best

From a post back in 2011:
Ether. Wade stans gone quiet all of a sudden.

[Done_And_Done]

So Lebron gets a C while Wade gets a C-? Wow ok dude you shouldn't be taken serious with a garbage comment like that.

Anyway, yeah Wade was excellent in games 1-4, he got hurt at the end of game 5 otherwise had a decent game then was so-so in game 6. It honestly could've been a heat sweep if they didn't blow thAt lead in game 2 and then have an 8 pt performance from lbj in game 4.

Worry none,
Nobody takes that di*ckhead serious around here. He's like the village wh0re. Everyone gets their jabs in but at the end of the day nobody gives a flying f*uck about.

[Akhenaten]

Oh please, stop the game 2 talk.. Wade had a better series no doubt, but Wade's biggest mistake of the series was to stop taking shots after he had poured in 36 with 8 minutes left and a 15 point lead.



Not just him though, it's clear this is what the coaching staff wanted also, but yes I place a lot of blame of him too. There is a time and place to be selfish and force the issues, he should have went rogue and finished that game out.

[mehyaM24]

overrated. 2 pretty good games that were in losses. not sure why miami changed the way they played in that series, but wade was obviously gunning for the finals mvp.

[Young X]

Wade's FGA was lower in the '11 finals than the '12 finals and lower than it was in the regular season that year. LOL @ "gunning for FMVP". F*ck outta here.

[pauk]

B- at best

From a post back in 2011:

jlip to the rescue.

[mehyaM24]

Wade's FGA was lower in the '11 finals than the '12 finals and lower than it was in the regular season that year. LOL @ "gunning for FMVP". F*ck outta here.
keep in mind, wade also had more FTA (total) and games of 20 or more FGA vs dallas. not saying he was bad, he just changed his approach. the guy was aggressive in chasing an individual award. the series' before, the ball went through lebron including down the stretch (see: vs chicago & boston).

[ImKobe]

Yes.

I don't wanna repeat myself. Look at the previous posts.

Lebron was bricking wide open 3s and was passing up wide open shots and refused to attack the paint.

[AirBourne92]

Lebron was bricking wide open 3s and was passing up wide open shots and refused to attack the paint.


well they zoned him up

once the lanes closed lebron didnt know what to do.

so he started bricking under pressure

he didnt know how to exploit zones and roamers

he could've utilized his teammates to open up the lanes for him, but he didn't know how

[navy]

Dude was airballing layups at the rim. lol at the zone.

Just garbage

[Young X]

keep in mind, wade also had more FTA (total) and games of 20 or more FGA vs dallas. not saying he was bad, he just changed his approach. the guy was aggressive in chasing an individual award. the series' before, the ball went through lebron including down the stretch (see: vs chicago & boston).The ball also went through Lebron in game 2 down the stretch (despite playing mediocre and Wade playing brilliant) and he chucked the game away/triggered Dallas' comeback.

[ImKobe]

well they zoned him up

once the lanes closed lebron didnt know what to do.

so he started bricking under pressure

he didnt know how to exploit zones and roamers

he could've utilized his teammates to open up the lanes for him, but he didn't know how

Obviously big credit to Dallas, but he couldn't find a way to score more than 18 ppg despite being matched up with Kidd and Terry in the zone, he didn't have the post game to consistently back em down and shoot over them. He couldn't beat players smaller than him and he couldn't beat a slow ass Marion :lol

Wade was drawing double teams and kicking it out to Lebron, who didn't know what to do with it. also lol'd at how he forced the ball inside to UD/Bosh when he had clean looks from the mid-range.

[Akhenaten]

Dude was airballing layups at the rim. lol at the zone.

Just garbage

still don't know how he missed that layup at the end of game two

[JT123]

B- at best

From a post back in 2011:
LOL at Wade stans ignoring this post. :lol

[JT123]

Obviously big credit to Dallas, but he couldn't find a way to score more than 18 ppg despite being matched up with Kidd and Terry in the zone, he didn't have the post game to consistently back em down and shoot over them. He couldn't beat players smaller than him and he couldn't beat a slow ass Marion :lol

Wade was drawing double teams and kicking it out to Lebron, who didn't know what to do with it. also lol'd at how he forced the ball inside to UD/Bosh when he had clean looks from the mid-range.
:facepalm In the words of Mark Cuban "How the hell do you post a zone defense?"
You are as clueless about basketball as Skip Bayless.

[mehyaM24]

I've said this before. This point seems to be lost with all of the attention on Lebron. Wade, after coming on national TV making public declarations about how he was now the "captain" and the team's "leader", failed his team when they needed him most also. He only effectively closed out 1 game in the finals, and that was game 3. After being great during the first 47 minutes of game 4 he chokes in the final 30 seconds of a one possession game. He misses a game tying free throw and then fumbles a routine inbound pass almost creating a turnover forcing Mike Miller into a tough shot on the final play of again, a one possession game. Then in the final, do- or- die game 6, the Heat's self proclaimed leader has by far his worst game of the series scoring only 17pts on 37.5% shooting.

The OP is correct. Despite the inexplicably horrid performance of Lebron, Wade has been vastly let off the hook. Wade's reputation of being clutch and able to "carry" a team is riding almost solely off a questionably officiated Finals that happened half a decade ago. In this season's Finals we saw the same Wade who hadn't gotten out of the first round since then. In the series that he has been eliminated in since '06, he has been known to often have a few dominating games early, only to almost invariably in the close out game proceed to have his worst shooting performance of the entire series. Go check the box scores. It happened in '07, 10, and again this year. His team missed the '08 playoffs because of injuries. In '09 his game 7 was his 3rd worst shooting performances of that series against the Hawks.

shut it down, bud :pimp:

[jlip]

My post does not exonerate Lebron for playing poorly in the 2011 Finals. It just refutes the notion that Wade is without blame.

[JT123]

My post does not exonerate Lebron for playing poorly in the 2011 Finals. It just refutes the notion that Wade is without blame.
:cheers: I just find it hilarious how Wade stans are avoiding your post like the plague. :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

B- at best

From a post back in 2011:


I've said this before. This point seems to be lost with all of the attention on Lebron. Wade, after coming on national TV making public declarations about how he was now the "captain" and the team's "leader", failed his team when they needed him most also. He only effectively closed out 1 game in the finals, and that was game 3. After being great during the first 47 minutes of game 4 he chokes in the final 30 seconds of a one possession game. He misses a game tying free throw and then fumbles a routine inbound pass almost creating a turnover forcing Mike Miller into a tough shot on the final play of again, a one possession game. Then in the final, do- or- die game 6, the Heat's self proclaimed leader has by far his worst game of the series scoring only 17pts on 37.5% shooting.

The OP is correct. Despite the inexplicably horrid performance of Lebron, Wade has been vastly let off the hook. Wade's reputation of being clutch and able to "carry" a team is riding almost solely off a questionably officiated Finals that happened half a decade ago. In this season's Finals we saw the same Wade who hadn't gotten out of the first round since then. In the series that he has been eliminated in since '06, he has been known to often have a few dominating games early, only to almost invariably in the close out game proceed to have his worst shooting performance of the entire series. Go check the box scores. It happened in '07, 10, and again this year. His team missed the '08 playoffs because of injuries. In '09 his game 7 was his 3rd worst shooting performances of that series against the Hawks.



That's a thread right there..

Wade was great for the overall series IMO, but he didn't close out well, at all. Stopped shooting at the end of game 2 (no aggression, needed to put that game away, instead bricked a couple of jumpers), the game 4 mistakes, and while easily having the 2-3 best games of the series, he was outplayed by LeBron in Game 1, 5, 6 (I remember LeBron being voted 'Player of the Game' after Game 1).

Obviously LeBron choked, was pitful in Game 4, too passive in every contest but the first (even in Game 6 he got off to a great start and stopped shooting).

[ImKobe]

:facepalm In the words of Mark Cuban "How the hell do you post a zone defense?"
You are as clueless about basketball as Skip Bayless.

They didn't play him the same way the entire series you dumbass. Watch the tape, where he's matched up 1 on 1 against some of these guys, look at what he does. He either tries to directly shoot over them or he forces a pass to a teammate that's either not expecting it or it gets picked off..

He missed wide open shots, he missed shots over smaller guys, he bricked wide open layups, his passing was errant for the most part...

Watch some tape of Kobe vs zone defenses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDwJPY-Nneg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecq_CMqLw_4


and Kobe can post up against zone defenses, he has no problem fading over multiple defenders and still making his shots, he has no problem swinging the ball and shooting open 3s against the zone

that shot against Minnesota though, 3 guys on him at the top of the key, fades from the 3pt line and splash :biggums:

I guess Bran just isn't as good.

[pauk]

Game 1 - Lebron played better than Wade and they won the game.

Game 2 - Wade played better than Lebron, but they lost the game, both choked in the 4th.

Game 3 - Wade played better than Lebron and they won the game (it was a behind the back pass from Lebron to Bosh who hit the gamewinning shot).

Game 4 - Wade played better than Lebron, but they lost the game, Lebron had 8 points, this is what ultimately killed his PPG for the series, both choked in the 4th.

Game 5 - Lebron played better than Wade, but they lost the game, both choked in the 4th.

Game 6 - Lebron played better than Wade, but they lost the game, both choked in the 4th.


Conclusion:

Lebron played better 3 times
Wade played better 3 times
Lebron was responsible for 1 win
Wade was responsible for 1 win
Both choked in the 4th

As bad as Lebron was... Wade was that to....

The only difference is Lebrons PPG for the series compared to Wade, which was caused by that 8 point game & being a bit to passive (averaged only 14-15 FGA), an 8 point game in a span of 4-6 games will kill your PPG dramatically....

[ImKobe]

Game 1 - Lebron played better than Wade and they won the game.

Game 2 - Wade played better than Lebron, but they lost the game, both choked in the 4th.

Game 3 - Wade played better than Lebron and they won the game (it was a behind the back pass from Lebron to Bosh who hit the gamewinning shot).

Game 4 - Wade played better than Lebron, but they lost the game, Lebron had 8 points, this is what ultimately killed his PPG for the series, both choked in the 4th.

Game 5 - Lebron played better than Wade, but they lost the game, both choked in the 4th.

Game 6 - Lebron played better than Wade, but they lost the game, both choked in the 4th.


Conclusion:

Lebron played better 3 times
Wade played better 3 times
Lebron was responsible for 1 win
Wade was responsible for 1 win
Both choked in the 4th

As bad as Lebron was... Wade was that to....

The only difference is Lebrons PPG for the series compared to Wade, which was caused by that 8 point game & being a bit to passive (averaged only 14-15 FGA), an 8 point game in a span of 4-6 games will kill your PPG dramatically even if all other games were all 30 point games....

If you put up 30 in 5 out of 6 games and 8 in the other one, you still average 26 ppg. That's not dramatic.

[Young X]

So now Lebron stans are claiming that Wade had a bad series and was just as responsible for their loss. This sh!t is getting out of hand. :facepalm

[pauk]

If you put up 30 in 5 out of 6 games and 8 in the other one, you still average 26 ppg. That's not dramatic.

A 4 ppg drop after just one game... is dramatic...

[pauk]

So now Lebron stans are claiming that Wade had a bad series and was just as responsible for their loss. This sh!t is getting out of hand. :facepalm

What about this dont you understand:

"My post does not exonerate Lebron for playing poorly in the 2011 Finals. It just refutes the notion that Wade is without blame."

What is the problem is actually the Lebron haters claiming that Wade had a fantastic series, shouldnt have any blame at all, only Lebron was entirely responsible for their loss.

[305Baller]

I would give it a B. Awesome yet not transcendent.

[Akhenaten]

As bad as Lebron was... Wade was that to....



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Haskel45/wtfharvey.gif

[Fire Colangelo]

Game 1 - Lebron played better than Wade and they won the game.

Shameless. Wade entered the game with 9 minutes left in the 4th with Heat up by 2 and extends the lead to 6 with a nice assist to UD and a made jumper.

LeBron only decided to score when the Heat were up comfortably by 10 with only 3 minutes left (did pretty much nothing the whole quarter). While Bosh, UD and Wade were responsible for extending the lead all throughout the 4th quarter.


Game 2 - Wade played better than Lebron, but they lost the game, both choked in the 4th.

Again, shameless. 9 points in the 4th for Wade and 2 points for LeBron (0-4 and 1 turnover). You tell me who choked harder?


Game 3 - Wade played better than Lebron and they won the game (it was a behind the back pass from Lebron to Bosh who hit the gamewinning shot).

7 points in the 4th for Bosh and Wade, 2 points in the 4th for LeBron. Yet all you remember was the one pass made by LeBron :oldlol: :oldlol:


Game 4 - Wade played better than Lebron, but they lost the game, Lebron had 8 points, this is what ultimately killed his PPG for the series, both choked in the 4th.

Wade outscored Lebron 32 to 8, and the Heat lost by 3. 7 points in the 4th by Wade, 0 for LeBron. Enough said.


Game 5 - Lebron played better than Wade, but they lost the game, both choked in the 4th.

10 points in the 4th by Wade, 2 points by Lebron. "LeBron played better than Wade", "both chocked" :roll: :roll: shameless, just shameless.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

@ pauk trying to spin this with this "both choked in the 4th" nonsense.

[Wade's Rings]

In order for them to have won the series, Lebron would avg 30/8/8.

Remember, this is hypothetical. Had Wade not sabotage Lebron by freezing him out of the offense, we would've had one more chip.
:lol

Had Lebron given Wade the ball at the end of Game 2 the Heat would've won. Had Lebron even had 12pts in Game 4 they win.

D-Goat turned LeBron into a sidekick but LeBron choked :bowdown:

[Wade's Rings]

That's a thread right there..

Wade was great for the overall series IMO, but he didn't close out well, at all. Stopped shooting at the end of game 2 (no aggression, needed to put that game away, instead bricked a couple of jumpers), the game 4 mistakes, and while easily having the 2-3 best games of the series, he was outplayed by LeBron in Game 1, 5, 6 (I remember LeBron being voted 'Player of the Game' after Game 1).

Obviously LeBron choked, was pitful in Game 4, too passive in every contest but the first (even in Game 6 he got off to a great start and stopped shooting).


You bring up Wade not closing out but he completely closed out Game 1 so how could Lebron be "Player of the Game" when their Overall Production was similar and Wade was more clutch.

Had Lebron even played average (not shit) the Heat win Game 4. Lebron got 2 Points from an Infamous Flop and 2 Points from a Wade Assist. Seriously Wade had huge, huge Mistakes (Dropped Ball & Missed Free Throw) but the Heat should've been in a better Position in the First Place. Wade still deserves blame though.

In Game 5 Wade played better in the Clutch than Lebron, he even gave Lebron a 4pt lead after a 3 with 4min left. Bron from that point had 2 Missed Jumpers and 2 Turnovers.

Game 6 Wade was hurt so LeBron was the best Player.

This isn't even considering the fact that Wade was getting Teammates involved and a few Clutch Defensive Plays.

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Overrated.

Keep in mind old man Kidd was his primary defender. And Wade was nonexistent in the clutch.

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Overrated.

Keep in mind old man Kidd was his primary defender. And Wade was nonexistent in the clutch.
:facepalm

Seriously? Read Fire Colangelo's Post and again he got Teammates involved and made big Defensive Plays.

Kidd wasn't even his Primary Defender. Marion and Deshawn both tried to guard Wade.

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:facepalm

Seriously? Read Fire Colangelo's Post and again he got Teammates involved and made big Defensive Plays.

Kidd wasn't even his Primary Defender. Marion and Deshawn both tried to guard Wade.

Marion/Stevenson were definitely guarding Lebron far more than they were on Wade.

I should have clarified that I think wade's performance is overrated in the sense that some people here argue vehemently that he should've won MVP over Dirk when it's clear to me that Dirk outperformed him in the clutch. That said, Wade was easily the 2nd best player in the Finals and by far the best player on Miami.