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Yao Ming's Foot
02-23-2015, 11:45 AM
- Not signing Phil Jackson (of the 10-45 Knicks) to a Coach/GM role
- Not signing Derek Fisher (of the 10-45 Knicks) to a Coach role
- Not signing Brian Shaw (of the 20-35 Nuggets) to a Coach role
- Losing Dwight Howard (played less than Kobe this year and had even worse box plus/minus impact numbers)
- Trading away the next great big man in Andrew Bynum (now retired)
- Trading away Lamar Odom (see above)
- Signing Kobe Bryant to a massive contract extension (that ends next year)
- Missing out on Free Agents Carmelo Anthony (out for the season) and Chris Bosh (out for the season)

Bosnian Sajo
02-23-2015, 11:53 AM
Last two. Odom trade killed our chemistry, if it had gone through then great, but because it didn't....Kobe's huge contract isn't too big of a problem, but it does limit us in terms of being able to sign talent to help him get his 6th. The Lakers are still going to end up winning a title this decade, so it's more of a problem for Kobe than it is for the Lakers and their fans.

Wally450
02-23-2015, 11:54 AM
Signing Kobe to a ludicrous deal like that IMO. He's old and sources say not a lot of players want to play with him because of the way he plays. That's why they can't sign big name free agents right now. Wait until Kobe retires and FA will be coming in by the handful.

FKAri
02-23-2015, 11:55 AM
Kobe extension

CP343
02-23-2015, 11:59 AM
Not signing Phil, closely followed by Kobe's huge contract.

Yao Ming's Foot
02-23-2015, 12:01 PM
Signing Kobe to a ludicrous deal like that IMO. He's old and sources say not a lot of players want to play with him because of the way he plays. That's why they can't sign big name free agents right now. Wait until Kobe retires and FA will be coming in by the handful.

Which big name FA could they have signed had Kobe taken a smaller contract?

Yao Ming's Foot
02-23-2015, 12:01 PM
Not signing Phil, closely followed by Kobe's huge contract.

Which big name FA could they have signed had Kobe taken a smaller contract?

JerrySeinfeld
02-23-2015, 12:07 PM
trading away all of their draft picks, young talents, assets, etc.

Yao Ming's Foot
02-23-2015, 12:08 PM
trading away all of their draft picks, young talents, assets, etc.

So basically just trading for Steve Nash....

(Traded by the Phoenix Suns to the Los Angeles Lakers for a 2013 1st round draft pick (Nemanja Nedovic was later selected), a 2013 2nd round draft pick (Alex Oriakhi was later selected), a 2014 2nd round draft pick and a 2015 1st round draft pick.)

Not quite destructive yet, but they owe another 1st rder

Andrew Bynum was already listed...

HurricaneKid
02-23-2015, 12:13 PM
Kobe. When Dwight left they should have started over. Probably should have started over before that to be honest. Instead they signed a me first player for years and delayed their ability to restart.

LAL will probably be among the worst teams in the NBA for the next 5 years. They literally don't have one player that could play a meaningful role on a contender. We don't know about Randle yet. But to reset the franchise with Randle and this year's pick is a stretch and still resets the clock to 2020.

Maybe Westbrook signs there in 2 years and this all changes. But right now their future looks pretty bleak. I mean its not as bad as NJN but there aren't more than a few teams that have no pieces AND aren't competitive.

JerrySeinfeld
02-23-2015, 12:16 PM
So basically just trading for Steve Nash....

(Traded by the Phoenix Suns to the Los Angeles Lakers for a 2013 1st round draft pick (Nemanja Nedovic was later selected), a 2013 2nd round draft pick (Alex Oriakhi was later selected), a 2014 2nd round draft pick and a 2015 1st round draft pick.)

Not quite destructive yet, but they owe another 1st rder

Andrew Bynum was already listed...

why does it matter who was selected with those picks?

hawkfan
02-23-2015, 12:18 PM
Jim Buss being put in charge.
The Lakers are the only team to beat the Warriors and the Hawks this year, so they have talent.
Yet they have no choice but to tank and be in the bottom five teams so that they keep their draft pick.

Awful.

Yao Ming's Foot
02-23-2015, 12:19 PM
why does it matter who was selected with those picks?

Because the title of the thread asks for "proof"... :confusedshrug:

Its not a destructive trade if the Lakers give up nothing for nothing in the long run.

ImKobe
02-23-2015, 12:19 PM
that Nash S&T and not signing Phil

Yao Ming's Foot
02-23-2015, 12:23 PM
Kobe. When Dwight left they should have started over. Probably should have started over before that to be honest. Instead they signed a me first player for years and delayed their ability to restart.

LAL will probably be among the worst teams in the NBA for the next 5 years. They literally don't have one player that could play a meaningful role on a contender. We don't know about Randle yet. But to reset the franchise with Randle and this year's pick is a stretch and still resets the clock to 2020.

Maybe Westbrook signs there in 2 years and this all changes. But right now their future looks pretty bleak. I mean its not as bad as NJN but there aren't more than a few teams that have no pieces AND aren't competitive.

Ok the Lakers force Kobe out and resign the now injured Dwight Howard... whats their next move?

Which free 2013 free agents pair up with Dwight Howard and turn them into a contender?

IncarceratedBob
02-23-2015, 12:24 PM
I'd do it all over again. We're gonna end up with Okafor and randle on rookie contracts and more cap space than anyone else. In the best city in the NBA.

Yao Ming's Foot
02-23-2015, 12:24 PM
Jim Buss being put in charge.
The Lakers are the only team to beat the Warriors and the Hawks this year, so they have talent.
Yet they have no choice but to tank and be in the bottom five teams so that they keep their draft pick.

Awful.

Which decision by Jim Buss has been proven destructive in retrospect?

SpanishACB
02-23-2015, 12:25 PM
Jim Buss being put in charge.
The Lakers are the only team to beat the Warriors and the Hawks this year, so they have talent.


what a stupid conclusion to come up with in regular season...

most likely gsw and hawks went into that game overconfident since Lakers are one of the three worst teams in the league bar none.

StephHamann
02-23-2015, 12:26 PM
Going all in in 2012-2013

ImKobe
02-23-2015, 12:44 PM
Going all in in 2012-2013

At least we didn't sign Bynum to some long term contract :confusedshrug:, 2013 probably would have been even worse without Dwight. That Nash trade was just stupid when we could have re-signed Ramon for like 3-4 mil :facepalm

longtime lurker
02-23-2015, 12:44 PM
Trading for the geriatric Steve Nash and not getting anything for Gasol.

NoGunzJustSkillz
02-23-2015, 12:46 PM
The good thing about trading for Dwight is we didn't sign Bynum to a long term contract. Trading for Nash was a horrible decision. The most destructive move came when Shannon Brown smashed Pau's chick.

imnew09
02-23-2015, 12:50 PM
Most stupid ones were Nash contract and hiring fken D Antoni. The rest we we lucked out with Dwight and melo. Fken proven losers with injuries

konex
02-23-2015, 01:07 PM
1 - Getting nothing for Dwight
2 - Trading TWO first round picks for a washed-up Nash
3 - Getting nothing for Gasol

Chadwin
02-23-2015, 01:10 PM
They had to keep Kobe around for business reasons. For the Buss family the Lakers are the only big money business they have, right? They aren't like Cuban or some other owners.

GimmeThat
02-23-2015, 01:26 PM
Trading Randle for a none top 10 pick along with a slightly above the mid point to max type player who was right in his prime in which lead us to a 2nd round defeat in game 6

coin24
02-23-2015, 02:04 PM
All the Jameer alts in here saying kobe:lol rent free fgt


The Nash signing, giving away so many picks, Jim buss, bad coaching hires all played a role.
Odom and Bynum were done, Dwight sucked and is finished now so none of these matter..

SwayDizzle
02-23-2015, 02:10 PM
Choosing Bynum over Gasol

Cold soul
02-23-2015, 02:14 PM
Too many to name I'll start with five seasons why.

1.) Jim Buss in charge as majority owner of Lakers and having final say in trades, FA, player evaluation, drafting, etc.
2.) Choosing Mike D'Antonio over Phil Jackson enough said.
3.) Letting Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol walk for nothing in return.
4.) Trading for broken down over the hill Steve Nash unfortunately Phoenix Suns knew what they were doing sadly we did not.
5.) Re-signing Kobe to high $$$ contract extension he is no longer best player in the game like he was in his prime no need to overpay for all he's done in the past instead of looking to the future and finding his successor and heir apparent to the throne post Kobe.

JerrySeinfeld
02-23-2015, 02:42 PM
Hiring bad coaches
Trading away draft picks for old and broken down players
Acquiring Dwight Howard
Lack of stability

They should have convinced Kobe to take a little less and started building around him with young talent and start developing a system. Get young and talented guys who will be there year after year instead of going after Nash, Dwight, etc.

Mr.Kite
02-23-2015, 02:48 PM
So far there have been NO mistakes of consequence.

letting odom go was meaningless. - Lakers would not have 3 peated
Losing dwight - of no consequence. He wasn't going to lead the lakers to the promised land.
Gasol - signing him this year would be meaningless. Lakers were not going to win.
Trading for nash - of no consequence; who did the suns draft with our picks? we didn't lose randle. It seems like we won't be losing the No. 5 this year either.
Kobe's fat contract - of no consequence. Who could they have signed? We had cap space this year and no one signed. So we got stuck with jeremy lin.
Losing kendall marshall - injured
not signing isiah thomas - he even got traded to boston after trading dragic away. (suns are just that bad, even with our pick they ain't doing shit with it)

In fact, this is a blessing in disguise. We tank for the future, no salary cap problems, trying to find young playable talent. Wes Johnson, only cost us 900k, but he's a scrub.

Good news - Kobe is committed, he will die trying. Sell more tickets, sell more seats, sell more and more. Kobe 24M is rather low priced compared to what he brings in.

Only bad thing - Losing CP3 because of stern, but that was not a mistake on our part.

Rooster
02-23-2015, 03:05 PM
- Not signing Phil Jackson (of the 10-45 Knicks) to a Coach/GM role
- Not signing Derek Fisher (of the 10-45 Knicks) to a Coach role
- Not signing Brian Shaw (of the 20-35 Nuggets) to a Coach role
- Losing Dwight Howard (played less than Kobe this year and had even worse box plus/minus impact numbers)
- Trading away the next great big man in Andrew Bynum (now retired)
- Trading away Lamar Odom (see above)
- Signing Kobe Bryant to a massive contract extension (that ends next year)
- Missing out on Free Agents Carmelo Anthony (out for the season) and Chris Bosh (out for the season)

This is the dominoes effect of letting Jim Buss running the team. His ego resulted of hiring DAntoni instead of proven Phil Jackson. The Suns basketball was fun but the Lakers did not have the right personnel to run it. If Phil was in charge, Dwight and Pau could be a happy camper as the focus of the offense. Instead Kobe was all the offense and DAntoni run him till his wheel fell off. Then Buss offered Kobe a no brainer contract.

But I like where our team headed at as long as we can keep that pick. We have a cap space this year and when Kobe contact is done, we have bigger cap space. I am hoping Randle and whoever we pick this year can make some noise and if we can get an impact player, in this year free agency we could be a major player in free agency in 2016 where the cap space will increase drastically.

Genaro
02-23-2015, 03:23 PM
1 - The CP3 veto
2 - Trading too much picks for a washed up Nash. He wouldn't stayed in Phoenix anyway they gave up too much just for a sing and trade for a 38 year old man.

The Dwight situation was out of our control since he got to decide where he wanted to go and it's not like he is playing well right now.
Kobe's contract it's high but it didn't hurt the Lakers since we're rebuilding anyway.

I just wanted those picks back.

outbreak
02-23-2015, 03:28 PM
1 - The CP3 veto
2 - Trading too much picks for a washed up Nash. He wouldn't stayed in Phoenix anyway they gave up too much just for a sing and trade for a 38 year old man.

The Dwight situation was out of our control since he got to decide where he wanted to go and it's not like he is playing well right now.
Kobe's contract it's high but it didn't hurt the Lakers since we're rebuilding anyway.

I just wanted those picks back.

All those points are stupid. The cp3 veto hurt them but the team was owned by the league and they had the right to veto trades as the ownership group, all the signs at the time were that Dwight would not resign with the lakers and the only reason he waived his opt out in Orlando was rpeortedly after being told he was being traded to LA and signing Kobe to a large deal does matter because if his contract was more manageable or if he was happy to take a side kick role maybe some free agents could have been enticed to join. L.A doesn't need long rebuilds through the draft and I expect once Kobe retires you'll see big names signing there.

KobesFinger
02-23-2015, 03:41 PM
Choosing MDA over Jackson. Phil with Kobe, Dwight and Gasol would've been higher than the 7th seed. The Lakers would've still had injuries but he would've done a better job than D'Antoni of managing egos and minutes. Could've finished with the 6 seed which would've meant a series with Denver rather than San Antonio. It wouldn't have resulted in a ring but at least it would've saved a lot of grief for Laker fans

Yao Ming's Foot
02-23-2015, 03:45 PM
So far there have been NO mistakes of consequence.

letting odom go was meaningless. - Lakers would not have 3 peated
Losing dwight - of no consequence. He wasn't going to lead the lakers to the promised land.
Gasol - signing him this year would be meaningless. Lakers were not going to win.
Trading for nash - of no consequence; who did the suns draft with our picks? we didn't lose randle. It seems like we won't be losing the No. 5 this year either.
Kobe's fat contract - of no consequence. Who could they have signed? We had cap space this year and no one signed. So we got stuck with jeremy lin.
Losing kendall marshall - injured
not signing isiah thomas - he even got traded to boston after trading dragic away. (suns are just that bad, even with our pick they ain't doing shit with it)

In fact, this is a blessing in disguise. We tank for the future, no salary cap problems, trying to find young playable talent. Wes Johnson, only cost us 900k, but he's a scrub.

Good news - Kobe is committed, he will die trying. Sell more tickets, sell more seats, sell more and more. Kobe 24M is rather low priced compared to what he brings in.

Only bad thing - Losing CP3 because of stern, but that was not a mistake on our part.


This is the correct answer so far....

hawkfan
02-23-2015, 03:51 PM
They should go ahead and release Boozer to help the tank.

Genaro
02-23-2015, 04:27 PM
All those points are stupid. The cp3 veto hurt them but the team was owned by the league and they had the right to veto trades as the ownership group, all the signs at the time were that Dwight would not resign with the lakers and the only reason he waived his opt out in Orlando was rpeortedly after being told he was being traded to LA and signing Kobe to a large deal does matter because if his contract was more manageable or if he was happy to take a side kick role maybe some free agents could have been enticed to join. L.A doesn't need long rebuilds through the draft and I expect once Kobe retires you'll see big names signing there.
Your point is stupid and I really liked if you make paragraphs, turns reading better.

Yes, the league had the right to do it. Does it make the fact less harming? No. Odom lost his mind when he found out he was traded. The league vetoes the trade and now Lakers has to trade Odom for nothing.

You are probably one of those Abbott reading guys who believe Kobe is the main reason LA couldn't attract FAs last season. He isn't. Lakers were only interested in Carmelo and Lebron who didn't want to sign with the Lakers, that makes 2 people, IT said himself he wanted to play for the Lakers and they didn't pursue him.

Lakers may very well attract FAs in 2016 but not because Kobe left, but because the team is with 2 good young guys.(Randle and this year's pick)

Genaro
02-23-2015, 04:28 PM
They should go ahead and release Boozer to help the tank.
Been saying that for months. This guy plays hard and this isn't what a tanking team needs.

AirBourne92
02-23-2015, 04:29 PM
kobe's contract was the least detrimental.

signing dwight was a mistake

not getting phil and fisher was a huge mistake too

in a summary, jim buss was the biggest mistake

Mr Feeny
02-23-2015, 04:31 PM
Your point is stupid and I really liked if you make paragraphs, turns reading better.

Yes, the league had the right to do it. Does it make the fact less harming? No. Odom lost his mind when he found out he was traded. The league vetoes the trade and now Lakers has to trade Odom for nothing.

You are probably one of those Abbott reading guys who believe Kobe is the main reason LA couldn't attract FAs last season. He isn't. Lakers were only interested in Carmelo and Lebron who didn't want to sign with the Lakers, that makes 2 people, IT said himself he wanted to play for the Lakers and they didn't pursue him.

Lakers may very well attract FAs in 2016 but not because Kobe left, but because the team is with 2 good young guys.(Randle and this year's pick)

Err no. Broussard who is Lebron's buddy openly said on Mike & Mike that Lebron wouldn't go to the Lakers of Kobe was there, even though he wouldn't say that publically. Colin cowherd reiterated the same thing on the same day in his show.

So yes, Kobe was the reason they couldn't rebuild. You had all stars accepting LESS money to get away from him and superstars refusing to sign if he was there. Go ahead and neg now:applause:

ImKobe
02-23-2015, 04:40 PM
Err no. Broussard who is Lebron's buddy openly said on Mike & Mike that Lebron wouldn't go to the Lakers of Kobe was there, even though he wouldn't say that publically. Colin cowherd reiterated the same thing on the same day in his show.

So yes, Kobe was the reason they couldn't rebuild. You had all stars accepting LESS money to get away from him and superstars refusing to sign if he was there. Go ahead and neg now:applause:

Lebron wouldn't have signed with us regardless. Be real. Cleveland was the only other destination he was even willing to consider.

Mr Feeny
02-23-2015, 04:47 PM
Lebron wouldn't have signed with us regardless. Be real. Cleveland was the only other destination he was even willing to consider.

Err not too sure about that. Howard there? A contender? In Hollywood? I'm sure he would have in a heartbeat. Like.his buddy said, though, he wasn't going anywhere near that place if Kobe was there.:applause:

BlackWhiteGreen
02-23-2015, 04:49 PM
Thinking that the name of the team alone will be enough to rebuild.

YouGotServed
02-23-2015, 05:03 PM
Letting Howard go is definitely their biggest mistake. Not even debatable.

Mr Feeny
02-23-2015, 05:04 PM
Letting Howard go is definitely their biggest mistake. Not even debatable.

Hmmm I wonder why Dwight couldn't wait to get as far away from that place as possible?:(

ImKobe
02-23-2015, 05:17 PM
Hmmm I wonder why Dwight couldn't wait to get as far away from that place as possible?:(

He was asked about it. He didn't say he left because of Kobe. He was asked if things had gone down differently and whether he would have considered staying if they hired Phil instead of D'Antoni. He said yes.

This is on tape and you can watch it on Youtube.

Why would you make up shit like that?

TheMarkMadsen
02-23-2015, 05:19 PM
Hmmm I wonder why Dwight couldn't wait to get as far away from that place as possible?:(

Probrably so he could shoot more and get more looks since Kobe was holding him back from being his regular, 20/12 with self

oh wait..

D12's FGA have stayed exactly as they were while playing with Kobe.

Dwight + another first team all nba guard hasn't even been enough to make it out of the first round in the west..

Dwight + Pau suffered the worst beat down in Lakers playoff history..

YouGotServed
02-23-2015, 05:25 PM
I think Dwight didn't like Kobe period. Selfish egotistical rapist chucker who wanted him to play the Tyson Chandler role. Dwight was clearly the better player at that point so he wasn't having it.

We saw what Dwight did in the playoffs when players go to him in the post. He averaged something like 24 and 12.

So yeah, the reason for Dwight leaving LA is pretty obvious and anyone who can't see it simply doesn't want to see it.

Genaro
02-23-2015, 05:27 PM
Err no. Broussard who is Lebron's buddy openly said on Mike & Mike that Lebron wouldn't go to the Lakers of Kobe was there, even though he wouldn't say that publically. Colin cowherd reiterated the same thing on the same day in his show.

So yes, Kobe was the reason they couldn't rebuild. You had all stars accepting LESS money to get away from him and superstars refusing to sign if he was there. Go ahead and neg now:applause:
Lebron had in his mind that he wanted back in Cleveland, this has nothing to do with Kobe.

I won't neg you, although you're a troll you are entitled to an opinion.

Genaro
02-23-2015, 05:32 PM
I think Dwight didn't like Kobe period. Selfish egotistical rapist chucker who wanted him to play the Tyson Chandler role. Dwight was clearly the better player at that point so he wasn't having it.

We saw what Dwight did in the playoffs when players go to him in the post. He averaged something like 24 and 12.

So yeah, the reason for Dwight leaving LA is pretty obvious and anyone who can't see it simply doesn't want to see it.
I don't regret Dwight hadn't signed, for real.
His best years are behind him, he isn't the same since he hurt his back and now he's constantly injured.
If he resigned Lakers would be for years in that limbo where it would fight for 8th seed just to lose in the first round. So Lakers wouldn't win a chip (Dwight isn't a guy to be the #1 on a title team) or get a great pick.

Mr Feeny
02-23-2015, 05:34 PM
Lebron had in his mind that he wanted back in Cleveland, this has nothing to do with Kobe.

I won't neg you, although you're a troll you are entitled to an opinion.


Ermmm....how about no. Lebron's own friend says he didn't go to the Lakers because of Kobe:applause:
That's it, done and dusted.

Mr Feeny
02-23-2015, 05:35 PM
I think Dwight didn't like Kobe period. Selfish egotistical rapist chucker who wanted him to play the Tyson Chandler role. Dwight was clearly the better player at that point so he wasn't having it.

We saw what Dwight did in the playoffs when players go to him in the post. He averaged something like 24 and 12.

So yeah, the reason for Dwight leaving LA is pretty obvious and anyone who can't see it simply doesn't want to see it.

You nailed it. The only ones who can't see it are the Kobe stans who don't want to see it:cheers:

Rooster
02-23-2015, 05:54 PM
I don't regret Dwight hadn't signed, for real.
His best years are behind him, he isn't the same since he hurt his back and now he's constantly injured.
If he resigned Lakers would be for years in that limbo where it would fight for 8th seed just to lose in the first round. So Lakers wouldn't win a chip (Dwight isn't a guy to be the #1 on a title team) or get a great pick.

You know what I feel the same way now. I remember when Shaq won in Miami and everyone was screaming the blame for Kobe in the 570 am radio and one of the guy called and he said forget Shaq, he did not want to be here. He said Kobe will win more with Bynum. At that time people saying he is nuts but looking back now, guy has the vision especially before Bynum got injured and of course we are gifted with Pau. I agree you can't win with Dwight as your main guy.

chazzy
02-23-2015, 06:17 PM
I think Dwight didn't like Kobe period. Selfish egotistical rapist chucker who wanted him to play the Tyson Chandler role. Dwight was clearly the better player at that point so he wasn't having it.

We saw what Dwight did in the playoffs when players go to him in the post. He averaged something like 24 and 12.

So yeah, the reason for Dwight leaving LA is pretty obvious and anyone who can't see it simply doesn't want to see it.
Uh, no. Why would Dwight returm to a team with no young stars and a coach who had no clue how to utilize him. What happened to Dwight when (insert long list of childish kobe insults) wasn't there to hold him back against the Spurs? He played the same way he has this year with his arthritic knee. That coupled with his back injury may have long term implications, so the Lakers possibly dodged a bullet there.

The Lakers have been angling for 2016 and beyond for a while no since Dwight didn't resign. LeBron was a pipe dream and there weren't any other FA's worth signing. Thank god we didn't max Melo or sign Stephenson or some shit. All or nothing is the best strategy

Dr Seuss
02-23-2015, 06:20 PM
Imagine if Dwight had re-uped with LA and then news of him beating this shit out of his kids came out. He'd be utterly destroyed by the media. So good decision, Dwighty poo.

Eric Cartman
02-23-2015, 08:00 PM
Signing Kobe in hindsight wasn't a bad move, given that they couldn't get any free agents either way.

That being said, the worst move was trading for Steve Nash, Phoenix bend over the table and pounded us balls deep, and not hiring Brian Shaw.

Yao Ming's Foot
02-23-2015, 08:27 PM
Err no. Broussard who is Lebron's buddy openly said on Mike & Mike that Lebron wouldn't go to the Lakers of Kobe was there, even though he wouldn't say that publically. Colin cowherd reiterated the same thing on the same day in his show.

So yes, Kobe was the reason they couldn't rebuild. You had all stars accepting LESS money to get away from him and superstars refusing to sign if he was there. Go ahead and neg now:applause:

This is Lebrons "buddy"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1YXc4k2CPY

:roll:

qrich
02-23-2015, 08:35 PM
Letting Dwight walk and dealing any single pick for Nash.



Your point is stupid and I really liked if you make paragraphs, turns reading better.

Yes, the league had the right to do it. Does it make the fact less harming? No. Odom lost his mind when he found out he was traded. The league vetoes the trade and now Lakers has to trade Odom for nothing.
)

Then don't leak a trade before it has been fully approved? Quite an easy fix.

And no, they didn't have to trade him for nothing, they just decided to do so, and sat on the TPE.

TaLvsCuaL
02-23-2015, 08:42 PM
Used Pau as scapegoat for years, including him in constant rumors, underestimating and even despising him. Wasting some of his best years. And all this just after throwing a insane amount of money on Kobe and Him with the max contract.

I<3NBA
02-23-2015, 08:52 PM
Not hiring Brian Shaw is not a mistake. and so is not hiring Fisher. i mean, have you seen both guys coach their respective teams this year? :yaohappy: both are putrid and you guys are lucky for dodging those fools.

resigning Kobe AT ALL was a mistake. Kobe's big contract is irrelevant. whether he took a small contract or not, FAs still wouldn't come. we saw that this year. you guys have cap space yet still no one wants to play with the rapist.

you guys should have traded Kobe a year before his contract expired. imagine what you coulda got. a lot of stupid GMs would fork over their entire team, bend over, and let Mitch fkd them over just to get Kobe. your team would have had no down time and no need to rebuild if you traded Kobe away.

ofc, the biggest mistake was Buss Sr. passing on the reins to Buss Jr. why could he not have just gave ownership to the Buss siblings but give total administrative control to Kupchak? let the Buss siblings be the rich owners that just watch from the sidelines. they have no business in running ANY team. Mitch with total control might just have steered your ship in the right direction.

supernova5912
02-23-2015, 09:03 PM
Choosing MDA over Jackson. Phil with Kobe, Dwight and Gasol would've been higher than the 7th seed. The Lakers would've still had injuries but he would've done a better job than D'Antoni of managing egos and minutes. Could've finished with the 6 seed which would've meant a series with Denver rather than San Antonio. It wouldn't have resulted in a ring but at least it would've saved a lot of grief for Laker fans
Not to mention Jackson wouldn't have let Kobe play 40+ minutes a game and get the Achilles tear. Consider that he only played under 42 minutes once in his last 7 games.

longtime lurker
02-23-2015, 10:34 PM
Umm Kobe's contract is not the problem. It's the Laker's total lack of evaluating talent or working under unfavorable circumstances. If you were a GM and your owner gave you 34 million to spend and the best you could come back with was Lin, Nash, Hill, Boozer and Nick Young you'd be fvcking fired.

G0ATbe
02-23-2015, 10:42 PM
Hard to pick since they were all great moves.

gilalizard
02-24-2015, 12:46 AM
Jim Buss.

IGOTGAME
02-24-2015, 12:53 AM
Hiring DAntoni and Steve Nash. They were poison to this team.

DAntoni has always despised Kobe and ran him into the ground. Read SSOL and you'll see some of the quotes about Kobe. He didnt give a **** when Kobe was showing signs of injury and extreme fatigue. If that was Nash he would have babied him.

Nash. I said from day one that was a shit trade. He is not the type of point guard to put around Kobe and definately not at that stage of his career and at that expense. Mortgaging the future for a done Nash was absurd.

These two moves sunk the Lakers. Mike Brown for several years running the Princeton would have been much better than this....