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CavaliersFTW
02-24-2015, 12:41 AM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/allstar/NBA_1969.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/allstar/NBA_1970.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/allstar/NBA_1972.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/allstar/NBA_1973.html

I have all 4 complete games, nominate which players you'd like to see complete statistical highlights of on my channel. Need some little projects like these as filler for my channel between the big documentary ones, thanks :cheers:

*EDIT* Players thus far highlighted:

Jerry West (1972 ASG MVP):
13 points (6-9fg 1-2ft)
6 rebounds 5 assists 6 steals 1 block in 27 minutes - hits game winner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXN0pbV5MJg

Oscar Robertson (1972 ASG)
11 points (3-9fg, 5-10ft)
3 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 block in 24 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnMdu-dICq0

Jimmy Walker (1972 ASG)
10 points (4-9fg, 2-5ft)
2 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal in 16 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h29WrE4btKs

Connie Hawkins (1972 ASG)
13 points (5-7fg, 3-4ft)
4 rebounds, 1 steal in 14 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxp_N46XPUk

Spencer Haywood (1972 ASG)
11 points (4-10g, 3-4ft)
7 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 block, 1 steal in 25 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EAaVv4ap0o

Bob Love (1972 ASG)
8pts (4-11fg, 0-2ft)
6 rebounds in 16 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646t_dXqFVs

Cazzie Russell (1972 ASG)
10 points (4-13fg, 2-2ft)
1 rebound, 1 steal in 20 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4k-3NLSHf4

West Centers (Combined) (1972 ASG)
22 points (8-15fg, 6-13ft)
20 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 blocks, 1 steal in 48 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXLvZg_HEKg
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
12 points (5-10fg, 2-2ft)
7 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 1 steal in 19 minutes
Wilt Chamberlain
8 points (3-3fg, 2-8ft)
10 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 block in 24 minutes
Bob Lanier
2 points (0-2fg, 2-3ft)
3 rebounds *1 assist (uncredited) in 5 minutes

East Centers Combined (1972 ASG)
16 points (6-17fg, 4-5ft)
27 rebounds, 2 assists, 6 blocks in 48 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1pf4BdiOJ0
Dave Cowens
14 points (5-12fg, 4-5ft)
20 rebounds, 1 assist, 4 blocks in 32 minutes of play
Wes Unseld
2 points (1-5fg)
7 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 blocks in 16 minutes of play

John Havlicek (1972 ASG)
15 points (5-13fg, 5-5ft)
3 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 1 steal in 24 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Tod-eu9a0

Billy Cunningham (1972 ASG)
14 points (4-13fg, 6-8ft)
10 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals in 24 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr0NZAFciTg

Dave DeBusschere (1972 ASG)
8 points (4-8FG 0-0 FT)
11 rebounds, 1 block in 26 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L6y2ZKoXiU

Jack Marin (1972 ASG)
11 points (5-8fg, 1-1ft)
1 assist (2 by modern rules) in 15 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EovZr4NITc

Walt Frazier (1972 ASG)
15 points (7-11fg, 1-2ft)
3 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals in 25 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bYpndoQOiU

Jo Jo White (1972 ASG)
12 points (6-15fg, 0-2ft)
4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals in 18 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOysSW083NA

Archie Clark (1972 ASG)
8pts (2-5fg, 4-4ft)
*2 rebounds (1 uncredited), 6 assists, 2 steals in 21 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZo8BIYFv0Y

RoundMoundOfReb
02-24-2015, 12:52 AM
Make a mix of all the most athletic plays from each game.

Roundball_Rock
02-24-2015, 12:54 AM
Kareem.

CavaliersFTW
02-24-2015, 12:55 AM
Make a mix of all the most athletic plays from each.
I'd rather do player highlights ala Dawkins YT channel.

RoundMoundOfReb
02-24-2015, 01:00 AM
Just watched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMckqjbYgSo

One of yours i think. Not bad. definitely eons better than Bob Cousy. What do you have to say about the soft rims of the 60s though? They seem much more forgiving.

CavaliersFTW
02-24-2015, 01:17 AM
I think I'm gonna start with Jerry West 1972 ASG since he was ASG MVP

CavaliersFTW
02-24-2015, 01:21 AM
Just watched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMckqjbYgSo

One of yours i think. Not bad. definitely eons better than Bob Cousy. What do you have to say about the soft rims of the 60s though? They seem much more forgiving.
That video gives me a headache I think I'm going to re-do that, I had some frame blending option checked off without even realizing it so the motion looks excessively blurry.

Rim tightness varied a great deal in the 60's, for example in Boston vs Sixers matchups if it was played in Boston the Celtics would make the rim setup loose so rebounds fell lower for Russell to have a chance to grab with his quickness advantage where as in Philly they made the rims super tight so that the rebounds soared high and Wilt could utilize his reach advantage above Russell.

Either way I'm not sure how they compare to the rims of today, today's rims break-away where as rims back then were bolted straight to the glass wouldn't that imply modern rims are softer?

senelcoolidge
02-24-2015, 02:36 PM
The coach of the Memphis Tigers, his dad has the Wilt 100 game recorded, but he started recording the game when Wilt was around 30 pts into the game. It's only audio though, but that's still would be amazing to listen to.

L.Kizzle
02-24-2015, 02:43 PM
1969. I'd like to see as much of Gus Johnson as possible. Also, the little guard trio of Greer, Monroe and Bing.

Also, looking at the minutes played in these gamec coaches treated this like a game from the season.

No All-Stars should be playing 3 minutes and 5 minutes. Why is John Johnson playing 3 minutes in an All-Star game? Van Arsdale? They're treating them like bench warmer. Big Bob Lanier, 5 minutes. Gail Goodrich, 6 minutes.

:biggums:

Psileas
02-24-2015, 04:19 PM
1970. I've seen the rest multiple times and I think they're easier to find.

jlip
02-24-2015, 04:26 PM
The coach of the Memphis Tigers, his dad has the Wilt 100 game recorded, but he started recording the game when Wilt was around 30 pts into the game. It's only audio though, but that's still would be amazing to listen to.

Has this been verified?

Psileas
02-24-2015, 04:28 PM
Some kind of OT question for anyone who may know better: Let's say that you're searching for a specific old YT video in the channel of some guy who uploads tons of videos and you don't remember any key words. Is there any different way of searching this channel's video archives instead of the stupidity of having to open dozens of pages of uploads in a single tab? The old way of opening one of multiple pages of uploads was much more practical than having to open all of the last ones. Isn't there any way of replicating this?

SHAQisGOAT
02-24-2015, 05:58 PM
Earl the Pearl, Pistol Pete, Gus Johnson, Baylor, Tiny, Hawkins and Wilt are probably the most exciting to watch out of those players, imho. But there are others I'd like to see, so it's hard to say...

Oh, and also, been meaning to ask you, do you got any Pete Maravich work in mind?
Not as much out there from him as it should be for such an exciting player to watch, and, no, he wasn't playing in the 80's but he also wasn't playing in the 50's/60's. NBA gotta have more in their vaults.

CavaliersFTW
02-24-2015, 06:16 PM
Nobody really put up big stats in any of those games as they were highly competitive defensively, and a lot of guys NOBODY talks about today put up virtually identical/just as good of stats as the guys everybody likes to talk about (for example, Dave Cowens was every bit as good as Wilt/Jabbar in some of those ASG's) so you guys could use this as an opportunity to request a glimpse of those players not just the "super stars". Lenny Wilkins, Dave Bing, Rudy LaRusso... guys that I'm sure most people haven't got a clue what they look like on film I could show.

I'll try to get Gus Johnson's highlights from '69 and '70. Willis Reed was '70 MVP I think he deserves a highlight. Baylor from '69 looked pretty good as did Earl Monroe. So I've got several guys right off the bat I'd like to highlight.

Anyways I'll have that Jerry West 72 ASG video up tonight it's almost finished up. Only 13 points and FMVP ...due to his incredible defense. Def not like today's ASG's :lol

He was a savage on defense that game though, and hit the game winning basket.

Dro
02-24-2015, 07:10 PM
You made a Gus Johnson video already didnt you? (Lebron of his era). If you can make an even better video of him, that would be great...

CavaliersFTW
02-24-2015, 07:38 PM
You made a Gus Johnson video already didnt you? (Lebron of his era). If you can make an even better video of him, that would be great...
There's no more footage to improve a Gus video that's literally all that exists if you've seen the latest one on my channel. What I'm talking about is all star game single game highlights aka Dawkins YT channel style. If I made a 1970 or 1969 ASG highlight of Gus you'd see no more than you have already seen in my Gus docu-highlight save for maybe a few more seconds of each play as they developed. But you'd perhaps see what he did in the flow of a game more easily than through the docu-highlight.

Dro
02-24-2015, 07:47 PM
There's no more footage to improve a Gus video that's literally all that exists if you've seen the latest one on my channel. What I'm talking about is all star game single game highlights aka Dawkins YT channel style. If I made a 1970 or 1969 ASG highlight of Gus you'd see no more than you have already seen in my Gus docu-highlight save for maybe a few more seconds of each play as they developed. But you'd perhaps see what he did in the flow of a game more easily than through the docu-highlight.
Oh ok, gotchu. Well in that case, I'm still deciding, lol...

Edit - how about Oscar and Earl?

senelcoolidge
02-24-2015, 09:04 PM
Has this been verified?

CavsFTW should get on it. Contact John Pastner's father and get the tape. Make it happen. Pastner's father was a ball boy and was around Wilt in those days.

CavaliersFTW
02-24-2015, 10:17 PM
Jerry West 1972 ASG MVP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nQOA62Y6PU

13pts (6-9fg, 1-2ft)
6reb 6stl 5a in only 27 minutes of play

Scored 7 of his 13 points in the fourth quarter and hit the game winner with 1 second left on the clock

LAZERUSS
02-24-2015, 10:23 PM
How about the 71-72 ABA-NBA All-star game?

CavaliersFTW
02-24-2015, 10:24 PM
How about the 71-72 ABA-NBA All-star game?
It's incomplete. I'm not going to draw any game highlights from it other than documentary-highlight form.

LAZERUSS
02-24-2015, 10:27 PM
It's incomplete. I'm not going to draw any game highlights from it other than documentary-highlight form.

As a side-note...somewhere in that footage, I believe Hot Rod Hundley claims that Chamberlain was easily taller than Gilmore. And the footage seems to confirm that. At the very least, he seems much bigger.

CavaliersFTW
02-24-2015, 10:29 PM
As a side-note...somewhere in that footage, I believe Hot Rod Hundley claims that Chamberlain was easily taller than Gilmore. And the footage seems to confirm that. At the very least, he seems much bigger.
Yes, I included that audio in my last Wilt scouting tool video

SHAQisGOAT
02-24-2015, 10:55 PM
Jerry West 1972 ASG MVP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nQOA62Y6PU

13pts (6-9fg, 1-2ft)
6reb 6stl 5a in only 27 minutes of play

Scored 7 of his 13 points in the fourth quarter and hit the game winner with 1 second left on the clock

:applause: West was terrific.

He was playing some great, ball-hawking defense there. Long arms, quick hands, footwork and great instincts...

Living up to the mr clutch moniker, big-time gamewinner with Frazier all over him.

Wish the ASG was still as competitive as that.

Gotterdammerung
02-24-2015, 11:04 PM
All of the above! :cheers:

Psileas
02-24-2015, 11:54 PM
Jerry West 1972 ASG MVP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nQOA62Y6PU

13pts (6-9fg, 1-2ft)
6reb 6stl 5a in only 27 minutes of play

Scored 7 of his 13 points in the fourth quarter and hit the game winner with 1 second left on the clock

WTF at 3:23? West had been averaging "just under 10 steals" that season? :wtf: This can't be true. How did he even come up with this number?

LAZERUSS
02-24-2015, 11:55 PM
WTF at 3:23? West had been averaging "just under 10 steals" that season? :wtf: This can't be true. How did he even come up with this number?

And with only his right hand, too.

CavaliersFTW
02-25-2015, 01:35 AM
Jerry West looks like a savage on defense I wonder what separates him from most other stereotypically "poor" white defensive players. He seems extremely quick that's got to be at least part of it.

CavaliersFTW
02-25-2015, 06:15 AM
Had to re-do the West highlights, turns out several minutes of the beginning of the game were missing from my original source. Which included 2 rebounds, 1 assist and a blocked shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXN0pbV5MJg

All included now :cheers:

CavaliersFTW
02-25-2015, 07:46 PM
Should I present Wilt and Kareem's highlights from the 1972 ASG as a combined video or separate videos?

Or maybe this

Jabbar/Wilt/Lanier/Jabbar/Wilt (that was the rotation) all in one video as West centers combined highlights since none of them overlapped in playing time?

Could do that and and then also 2 separate videos of Wilt and Kareem actually. Maybe I'll do that. Sorry just thinking out loud here. I'm currently working on West stars from the 1972 game since I've got it fresh in my mind then I'll try and shift to the East stars. Trying to get every player in double digit points highlighted.

Asukal
02-25-2015, 08:17 PM
OP do you have the full games on your channel? If not can you please upload all 4 of them for us to watch? Would be much appreciated.

CavaliersFTW
02-25-2015, 08:40 PM
OP do you have the full games on your channel? If not can you please upload all 4 of them for us to watch? Would be much appreciated.
I typically do not upload full games to my channel. I'm trying to stay on the NBA's good side by making my own highlights and documentaries. I've noticed those types of fan channels tend to stay up where as ones that upload full games are at risk to be taken down (though I've noticed the NBA seems lenient on vintage game uploads as opposed to recent games) still, I don't want to take the risk. You can usually find these videos uploaded elsewhere by others anyways, just google them you'll probably find the YT links

CavaliersFTW
02-26-2015, 02:21 PM
1972 ASG - players from the West squad that put up at least 8 points

Jerry West (1972 ASG MVP):
13 points (6-9fg 1-2ft)
6 rebounds 5 assists 6 steals 1 block in 27 minutes - hits game winner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXN0pbV5MJg

Oscar Robertson (1972 ASG)
11 points (3-9fg, 5-10ft)
3 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 block in 24 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnMdu-dICq0

Jimmy Walker (1972 ASG)
10 points (4-9fg, 2-5ft)
2 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal in 16 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h29WrE4btKs

West Centers (Combined) (1972 ASG)
22 points (8-15fg, 6-13ft)
20 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 blocks, 1 steal in 48 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXLvZg_HEKg
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
12 points (5-10fg, 2-2ft)
7 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 1 steal in 19 minutes
Wilt Chamberlain
8 points (3-3fg, 2-8ft)
10 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 block in 24 minutes
Bob Lanier
2 points (0-2fg, 2-3ft)
3 rebounds *1 assist (uncredited) in 5 minutes

Connie Hawkins (1972 ASG)
13 points (5-7fg, 3-4ft)
4 rebounds, 1 steal in 14 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxp_N46XPUk

Spencer Haywood (1972 ASG)
11 points (4-10g, 3-4ft)
7 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 block, 1 steal in 25 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EAaVv4ap0o

Bob Love (1972 ASG)
8pts (4-11fg, 0-2ft)
6 rebounds in 16 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646t_dXqFVs

Cazzie Russell (1972 ASG)
10 points (4-13fg, 2-2ft)
1 rebound, 1 steal in 20 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4k-3NLSHf4

Dro
02-26-2015, 03:44 PM
1972 ASG - players from the West squad that put up at least 8 points

Jerry West (1972 ASG MVP):
13 points (6-9fg 1-2ft)
6 rebounds 5 assists 6 steals 1 block in 27 minutes - hits game winner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXN0pbV5MJg

Oscar Robertson (1972 ASG)
11 points (3-9fg, 5-10ft)
3 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 block in 24 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnMdu-dICq0

Jimmy Walker (1972 ASG)
10 points (4-9fg, 2-5ft)
2 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal in 16 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h29WrE4btKs

West Centers (Combined) (1972 ASG)
22 points (8-15fg, 6-13ft)
20 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 blocks, 1 steal in 48 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXLvZg_HEKg
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
12 points (5-10fg, 2-2ft)
7 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 1 steal in 19 minutes
Wilt Chamberlain
8 points (3-3fg, 2-8ft)
10 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 block in 24 minutes
Bob Lanier
2 points (0-2fg, 2-3ft)
3 rebounds *1 assist (uncredited) in 5 minutes

Connie Hawkins (1972 ASG)
13 points (5-7fg, 3-4ft)
4 rebounds, 1 steal in 14 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxp_N46XPUk

Spencer Haywood (1972 ASG)
11 points (4-10g, 3-4ft)
7 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 block, 1 steal in 25 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EAaVv4ap0o

Bob Love (1972 ASG)
8pts (4-11fg, 0-2ft)
6 rebounds in 16 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646t_dXqFVs

Cazzie Russell (1972 ASG)
10 points (4-13fg, 2-2ft)
1 rebound, 1 steal in 20 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4k-3NLSHf4
:applause:

CavaliersFTW
02-26-2015, 04:18 PM
:applause:
Check out Spencer Haywood and his dunk over Dave Cowens in heavy traffic

CavaliersFTW
02-27-2015, 02:25 AM
Working on all the East squad players that scored 8 or more points from the 72 ASG tonight and probably tomorrow. Check out some of the West squad if you haven't already. I recommend Spencer Haywood and Connie Hawkins as well as the video of the centers :cheers:

CavaliersFTW
02-28-2015, 09:53 PM
East squad '72 all star game, all players who scored over 8 points a game plus both centers combined:

East Centers Combined (1972 ASG)
16 points (6-17fg, 4-5ft)
27 rebounds, 2 assists, 6 blocks in 48 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1pf4BdiOJ0
Dave Cowens
14 points (5-12fg, 4-5ft)
20 rebounds, 1 assist, 4 blocks in 32 minutes of play
Wes Unseld
2 points (1-5fg)
7 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 blocks in 16 minutes of play

John Havlicek (1972 ASG)
15 points (5-13fg, 5-5ft)
3 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 1 steal in 24 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Tod-eu9a0

Billy Cunningham (1972 ASG)
14 points (4-13fg, 6-8ft)
10 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals in 24 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr0NZAFciTg

Dave DeBusschere (1972 ASG)
8 points (4-8FG 0-0 FT)
11 rebounds, 1 block in 26 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L6y2ZKoXiU

Jack Marin (1972 ASG)
11 points (5-8fg, 1-1ft)
1 assist (2 by modern rules) in 15 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EovZr4NITc

Walt Frazier (1972 ASG)
15 points (7-11fg, 1-2ft)
3 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals in 25 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bYpndoQOiU

Jo Jo White (1972 ASG)
12 points (6-15fg, 0-2ft)
4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals in 18 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOysSW083NA

Archie Clark (1972 ASG)
8pts (2-5fg, 4-4ft)
*2 rebounds (1 uncredited), 6 assists, 2 steals in 21 minutes of play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZo8BIYFv0Y

jongib369
03-02-2015, 05:42 PM
http://youtu.be/-et-x3NutXA

Not a single player from the games you mentioned would make that all star game

Quit while your ahead OP

http://oi62.tinypic.com/vhu5gl.jpg

Psileas
03-02-2015, 07:42 PM
Are you planning to do similar stuff with the other games?

CavaliersFTW
03-02-2015, 07:47 PM
Are you planning to do similar stuff with the other games?
I could. Should I? These videos don't seem to get a lot of views or likes so far.

Psileas
03-02-2015, 08:12 PM
I could. Should I? These videos don't seem to get a lot of views or likes so far.

Maybe such a project seems too elaborative for the casual fan or even the casual subscriber.
Do as you like, but, if I had to pick one, I think that the 1970 game has been the most underrepresented online.

CavaliersFTW
03-02-2015, 08:30 PM
Maybe such a project seems too elaborative for the casual fan or even the casual subscriber.
Do as you like, but, if I had to pick one, I think that the 1970 game has been the most underrepresented online.
I actually lost about 25 subscribers after uploading the 1972 ASG player highlights, which to me indicates my subscribers were possibly annoyed/disappointed that I uploaded brief game highlights of players they may or may not have ever even heard of instead of my usual once every month or two (or three) extensive docu-highlight projects.

I'll probably do more games like that. Can't please everyone. I think it's for the best to share as much as possible. Wilt wasn't the only great player from the Wilt Chamberlain era though his name obviously pulls the most interest/generates the most views/discussions on my channel.