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Im Still Ballin
02-24-2015, 04:04 AM
Quick rant I made...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um40V_W-d24&feature=youtu.be

RoundMoundOfReb
02-24-2015, 04:05 AM
Sick vid, bro. A lot of cold hard facts being distributed.

Joyner82reload
02-24-2015, 04:09 AM
you got so mad you made a youtube video?

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Jimmies-Maximum-Over-Rustled-Meme-Gif.gif

T_L_P
02-24-2015, 04:10 AM
I always thought you were black, tbh.

SugarHill
02-24-2015, 04:10 AM
:roll:

Joyner82reload
02-24-2015, 04:11 AM
I always thought you were black, tbh.
>black person
>internet

pick one



World Star Hip Hop doesn't count

Im Still Ballin
02-24-2015, 04:11 AM
Delete that Gif Joyner

I'm having a seizures

T_L_P
02-24-2015, 04:12 AM
At first I was wondering if it was really you.

Then you came out with 'DeMarcus Cousins, the best Center in the league'. :roll:

GOAT ISH poster :roll:

UK2K
02-24-2015, 04:14 AM
you got so mad you made a youtube video?

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Jimmies-Maximum-Over-Rustled-Meme-Gif.gif
:oldlol:

Im Still Ballin
02-24-2015, 04:18 AM
We simply cannot compare PER ratings of this season to the season's previous. The top PERs this season are all skewed because of lesser minutes played. MPG and PER are inversely proportional. If Anthony Davis played 39 minutes like such players as Lebron and Kobe, his PER would be roughly around 3-4 points less.

This is why Lebron and MJ have the best PER ratings of all time.

There should be a PER adjusted via MPG. It would be far more accurate and effective.

Marchesk
02-24-2015, 04:21 AM
Wilt's 61/62 PER would be off the chart with blocks and adjusted for too minutes played.

Joyner82reload
02-24-2015, 04:21 AM
We simply cannot compare PER ratings of this season to the season's previous. The top PERs this season are all skewed because of lesser minutes played. MPG and PER are inversely proportional. If Anthony Davis played 39 minutes like such players as Lebron and Kobe, his PER would be roughly around 3-4 points less.

This is why Lebron and MJ have the best PER ratings of all time.

There should be a PER adjusted via MPG. It would be far more accurate and effective.

There is. That's essentially what Wins/Value found on Hollinger's PER table are. PER*minutes played

Im Still Ballin
02-24-2015, 04:22 AM
Wilt's 61/62 PER would be off the chart with blocks and adjusted for too minutes played.
Alas old timer!

But yield! The potential adjusted for blocks and minutes PER rating of Wilt would then have to be 'weak era' adjusted. He probably would be struggling to hit a modern 30.00 PER rating.

navy
02-24-2015, 04:24 AM
Per sucks. Kblaze posted a quote from hollinger saying that PER took minutes into account so you could compare scrubs to actual stars and not miss a beat regardless of minutes

RoundMoundOfReb
02-24-2015, 04:25 AM
Wilt's 61/62 PER would be off the chart with blocks and adjusted for too minutes played.
And if we adjusted for weak era it would be back on the chart.

SugarHill
02-24-2015, 04:26 AM
Didn't PER originally suggest that David Robinson was the greatest player of all time and then it got reworked? lol

navy
02-24-2015, 04:27 AM
Didn't PER originally suggest that David Robinson was the greatest player of all time and then it got reworked? lol

I honestly think it was formulated to put Jordan on top.

T_L_P
02-24-2015, 04:27 AM
Didn't PER originally suggest that David Robinson was the greatest player of all time and then it got reworked? lol

He is the greatest Regular Season performer of all time, tbh (besides MJ).

ArbitraryWater
02-24-2015, 04:34 AM
Didn't PER originally suggest that David Robinson was the greatest player of all time and then it got reworked? lol

Well, he's the GOAT rs performer and you once made a thread suggesting him to be better than Duncan.

OP, you're a poet.

andremiller07
02-24-2015, 05:23 AM
Lol where from Australia you from?

Hilarious video btw, lmao @ Davis matching up against Cousins shit had me dying

Graviton
02-24-2015, 05:43 AM
Seems like most Australian posters on ISH are Kings fans, wtf is up with that?

Joyner82reload
02-24-2015, 05:47 AM
Seems like most Australian posters on ISH are Kings fans, wtf is up with that?

It's the closest NBA team :confusedshrug:

Same as most other nonbandwagon fans

Marchesk
02-24-2015, 05:49 AM
It's the closest NBA team :confusedshrug:

Same as most other nonbandwagon fans

It's 8043 miles from Sacremento to Down Under. Why not pick Portland at least?

Joyner82reload
02-24-2015, 05:58 AM
It's 8043 miles from Sacremento to Down Under. Why not pick Portland at least?

because its 8075 miles away

buddha
02-24-2015, 06:05 AM
He is the greatest Regular Season performer of all time, tbh (besides MJ).

so because Tim Duncan played scrubs in the playoffs he is better? lmao

if David Robinson got to face the Nets and LeBron Lame he would be regarded as the best center of all-time on these boards.

Im Still Ballin
02-24-2015, 06:19 AM
I'm not sure I am a Kings fan because of family roots from North Cal/Dad rooted for them (And the Warriors as well as he always talks about watching Wilt in San Francisco back in 69' or some shit)

Smoke117
02-24-2015, 06:42 AM
Clicked on your link, saw over 5 minutes...clicked off. Who are you that you think anyone will watch 5 mins of your stupid ass talking?

Im Still Ballin
02-24-2015, 06:46 AM
Give me your address Smoke. This ain't a game. I will pummel your ass.

Marchesk
02-24-2015, 07:12 AM
Give me your address Smoke. This ain't a game. I will pummel your ass.

Don't you guys have to like drive across hundreds of miles of deserts and crocodile infested waters to reach each other?

I've seen Wolf Creek and Crocodile Hunter. Oh and the dingo ate your baby.

Damn, I wish I had a Fosters in the fridge.

Smoke117
02-24-2015, 07:14 AM
He is the greatest Regular Season performer of all time, tbh (besides MJ).

Fact. I'm with Kblaze here too...I don't suck the **** of players because they performed for 15 games in the playoffs...and just discard a 82 game fcuking season...yeah I'm not a moron like the rest of you.

Im Still Ballin
02-24-2015, 07:15 AM
Yes i once wrestled a saltie in the muddy plains of Broome in the far outer reaches of The North coast of Western Australia

T_L_P
02-24-2015, 07:27 AM
Fact. I'm with Kblaze here too...I don't suck the **** of players because they performed for 15 games in the playoffs...and just discard a 82 game fcuking season...yeah I'm not a moron like the rest of you.

Okay, so D-Rob is a top 3 player in NBA history, amiright?

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
02-24-2015, 12:25 PM
:oldlol:

PER is reasonable as long as you don't use it to claim players are THE best blah blah. It's just one metric (and it measures efficiency).

CP343
02-24-2015, 12:32 PM
you got so mad you made a youtube video?

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Jimmies-Maximum-Over-Rustled-Meme-Gif.gif

:lol