rajon Rondo and Rick Carlisle going at it

[Bigsmoke]

http://youtu.be/cMqmazGYBns

[Heavincent]

Carlisle is one of those coaches I wouldn't mess with.

[bigkingsfan]

Devin Harris dominating.

[I.R.Beast]

Rondo is an assist whore cancer. So happy we finally got rid of em. I told my friends that traded for rondo would be a huge mistake for DAL. He's stinking up their offense with his tendency to be an offensive liability. Glad he's someone else's problem now.

[keep-itreal]

and people were saying Rondo trade makes them contender:roll:

"b-b-but he's the best passer in the league!":roll:

[Thunderfan86]

I was really hoping this wouldn't happen. Rondo needs to chill out

[Dro]

They seem better off with Devin Harris and JJ. Barea honestly......

[navy]

Cancerous

[Hittin_Shots]

So Boston got three players that have been playing better than or as good as Rondo for Rondo?

[DMAVS41]

Rick has had enough patience at this point.

Rondo has been dreadful. I really can't believe he's been this bad. We needed to make a move, but we clearly made the wrong one.

What a shame. It's like the Lamar Odom thing all over again....

Still holding out hope he can help in the playoffs, but right now it's looking like worst case scenario with him.

[DMAVS41]

and people were saying Rondo trade makes them contender:roll:

"b-b-but he's the best passer in the league!":roll:

Well, honestly, all he had to do was be an upgrade over Jameer Nelson. Which sadly, he isn't...

I mean...if he was actually demonstrably better than Jameer Nelson...we actually would be contenders.

I can admit that I was wrong, but damn...not like the expectations were high.

Literally it was...."be like 10 to 20 percent better than Jameer Nelson...and Mavs will be legit contender"

But he can't even do that.:facepalm

[Joyner82reload]

Carlisle would ring Rondo's neck like the chicken he is

[lilteapot]

i've always hated rondo

[Taller than CP3]

JJ Barea needs to check that fool. Rondo has no respect.

[SCdac]

Rondo's a hothead and seems immature, judging from what I've seen of him in a Celtics jersey

[DMV2]

and people were saying Rondo trade makes them contender:roll:

"b-b-but he's the best passer in the league!":roll:
Said who besides delusional Boston fans?

[DMV2]

So Boston got three players that have been playing better than or as good as Rondo for Rondo?
Rondo went from being untradeable(according to Boston fans) to being the scrub of a trade. :oldlol:

[buddha]

Rondo's gonna be laker next year. Rondo and Kobe is gonna be the most alpha back-court the nba will ever see.

[DMV2]

Rondo's gonna be laker next year. Rondo and Kobe is gonna be the most alpha back-court the nba will ever see.
They gonna make history!!!!

The first backcourt duo to shoot under .400 from the floor and free throw line.

[Hittin_Shots]

Rondo went from being untradeable(according to Boston fans) to being the scrub of a trade. :oldlol:

And this is a bad thing for Boston fans? wouldnt appearing like he has higher value be better for us I mean he only had half a year on this contract and we'd either have to pay him or get nothing; and with the way he's lowering his value in a contract year.. Might come back cheap. But watching Isaiah Thomas so far, that guy was a steal.

[D-FENS]

I'm glad he's gone. Very overrated player - he's never been a top 30 point guard for me

[RRR3]

Carlisle probably was making fun of his FT%.

It's disgraceful at this point.

[miles berg]

I hope Carlisle sits him the rest of the year. Devin + Barea at PG, Monta can moonlight there if we are in a bind.

I can't stand watching Rondo play. He is awful.

[L8krH8tr]

Rondoas big hands make it impossible for him to shoot correctly. Ide rather have Jameer freaking Nelson

[KirbyPls]

They gonna make history!!!!

The first backcourt duo to shoot under .400 from the floor and free throw line.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[gts]

Well that didn't take long :lol

not a big deal in the end, they'll get it right

[LONGTIME]

That reporter has some balls :lol That stare from Carlisle :oldlol: looked like he was going to rip his head off. :oldlol:

[screeningnick]

Hindsight is 20/20 and it may be too early to "gloat", but I always thought Rondo was not a good fit for Mavs.

They're offence when run correctly is a thing of beauty. Based on spacing, outside shooting, up-tempo and premium ball movement. Sadly all things Rondo's game does not compliment.

[Heavincent]

Lets be honest Carlisle would kick the shit out of Rondo if it came down to it.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Can't stand that smug piece of shit. Hope Carlise cuts his minutes in half.. Hell at this point its best not to even play him.

[Heavincent]

Carlisle probably was making fun of his FT%.

It's disgraceful at this point.

His 3 PT% is higher than his FT% :roll:

I thought Iguodala was bad.

[Bigsmoke]

I just came back looking at Rondo stats:wtf:

[CP343]

Not good seeing this in a contract year.

[ProfessorMurder]

Rondo went from being untradeable(according to Boston fans) to being the scrub of a trade. :oldlol:
Keep acting like he didn't tear an ACL. Nah, that couldn't have anything to do with it.

[buddha]

teams could beat the mav's by going hack a rondo in the playoffs lol.

[ProfessorMurder]

Plays in one system for 8.5 years.
Comes off of an ACL tear.
Traded to a new team, midseason, and the trade decimates their bench.
Gets his face kicked in.

It's only been 20 games.



The Mavs weren't going anywhere anyway.

Parsons sucks and is making more than Rondo.

And it's not like they restructured their offense for him. They plugged him into a place where he's less effective.

[theaussieguy]

Plays in one system for 8.5 years.
Comes off of an ACL tear.
Traded to a new team, midseason, and the trade decimates their bench.
Gets his face kicked in.

It's only been 20 games.



The Mavs weren't going anywhere anyway.

Parsons sucks and is making more than Rondo.

And it's not like they restructured their offense for him. They plugged him into a place where he's less effective.
this thread just confirms most people are ****ing clueless about ball. Rondo is a ****ing good player and isn't the immature cancer people make him out to be. He hasn't meshed within 20 games big surprise.

[andremiller07]

Devin Harris has been one of the most underrated guards in the NBA a long time, I said they should have just started him and instead of trading away Jameer and Wright for anther PG would have been better off going after a PF/C who can defend.

Jefferson and Charlie and even Amare have all stepped up as well.

[FPJ]

What a shocker. Where are the "Rondo best PG when healthy" warriors? Where are the "MAVS are a clear contender now" people? Where's Rondo's winner mentality? :roll:

Another proof this site is hosting some of the dumbest creatures on earth.

[1987_Lakers]

The more I think of it, Danny Ainge is actually a brilliant GM.

- Got the Big 3 together and won a title in 2008
- Traded ancient Garnett & Pierce for Brooklyn's upcoming future
- Traded mediocre Perkins for J. Green then traded Green for a First Round pick
- Traded overrated Rondo for a bunch of assets

Boston has a very nice future if they make the right draft picks.

[aj1987]

Rondo has always been an immature punk. Dude likes his assists and pads the shit out of them. Probably mad that Rick won't let him.

@ProfessorMurder, Parsons is a much better player than Rondo.

[Pointguard]

The worst news in all of this is that he sulks for long periods of time. Even when healthy he is a player that likes to know where his players are. So without a training camp, he isn't going to a pass around the perimeter team and fit in. I thought it might be a clash of styles when I heard about it. It obviously is. Remember he came up under Pierce, Allen and KG and they couldn't mold him.

It wouldn't surprise me if there is a buy out situation within two weeks. I wonder if the Bulls bite.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I'm glad he's gone. Very overrated player - he's never been a top 30 point guard for me

This is the best ISH reply in some time. And that says a lot.

[Heavincent]

And it's not like they restructured their offense for him. They plugged him into a place where he's less effective.

Why should they have to restructure their offense? They were already elite before Rondo.

[T_L_P]

Rick has had enough patience at this point.

Rondo has been dreadful. I really can't believe he's been this bad. We needed to make a move, but we clearly made the wrong one.

What a shame. It's like the Lamar Odom thing all over again....

Still holding out hope he can help in the playoffs, but right now it's looking like worst case scenario with him.

What surprises me is the amount of Dallas fans who still love this trade ("he brings good defense, that's all we need!")

Like you said, he's been dreadful, and he's the opposite of what a team-oriented player should be (and he's a Point Guard).

I don't think Rick even wanted this trade, tbh.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

I bet Carlisle would take Rondo in a fight.

[kNIOKAS]

I love Rondo. What can I do :confusedshrug:

no homo

[theaussieguy]

still a top 3 pg in the league

[Rolando]

I still love Rondo but it is clear that he is not at his best on the Mavs. He seems to be playing within a system that does not allow him to play to his strengths. His stats have gone to shit and he just is not able to play freely.

I think his freethrow shooting is mostly psychological. He's not happy where he is and shows his discontent by sucking horribly at the line.

Hope he ends up in a good place. As someone mentioned, Chicago would be cool. I'm sure he has an understanding with Thibs.

[poido123]

Man, that video didn't look good.


Rondo has to know his place. He's come to a new team, can't be barking back at the coach like that when you're playing like shit.



Maybe Rondo is hard to handle? I didn't believe it at first, but maybe Rondo doesn't listen to coaches. After all, Doc was a player pleaser, he wouldn't of ruffled Rondo's feathers at all.

[pastis]

Rick has had enough patience at this point.

Rondo has been dreadful. I really can't believe he's been this bad. We needed to make a move, but we clearly made the wrong one.

What a shame. It's like the Lamar Odom thing all over again....

Still holding out hope he can help in the playoffs, but right now it's looking like worst case scenario with him.

ive said from the beginning of the trade rumours that rondo wont make us better on or off the court.
rondo is frustrated that he isnt the same since his injury. and this frustration can be seen on and off the court

[Top Gun]

Respect for Carlisle. Don't stand for his bullshit.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Respect for Rick, there.



Rondoas big hands make it impossible for him to shoot correctly. Ide rather have Jameer freaking Nelson

Bird had big hands and he's one of the GOAT shooters, MJ had really big hands... Shit, Dr J had some huge paws and he could easily shoot better than Rondo.

[salwan]

Rondo was born in the wrong era.

After he lost the ability to attack the basket at will and to hit his midrange shot, it has become obvious.

This era is all about shooting ability, driving ability and ball movement.

[aj1987]

still a top 3 pg in the league
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[StephHamann]

This is a big story now?

Man this era is weak.

Rondo is in a contract year, so Dallas can get rid of him fast if it doesn't click. Only bad thing is they might could have gotten Dragic for the same a few days ago.

[Pushxx]

Rondo is...

...dealing with an achilles injury.
...recovering from a broken face.
...playing with a guard he doesn't fit with.
...blessed with a really bad bench.
...trying to get over his mental block with FT.
...still learning how to play post-surgery.

This shit happens. Carlisle and Rondo will be fine together. Rondo is a mess right now, but if Rondo gets healthier, he's going to help the Mavs in the playoffs.

The Mavs don't have much of a choice.

[Haymaker]

Respect for Rick, there.




Bird had big hands and he's one of the GOAT shooters, MJ had really big hands... Shit, Dr J had some huge paws and he could easily shoot better than Rondo.

True, the big hands theory is absurd. There's no scientific proof to sustain it, and we have countless examples of big handed players who happened to shoot very well. Hell, look at Kawhi and that's enough.

[StephHamann]

Rondo is...

...dealing with an achilles injury.
...recovering from a broken face.
...playing with a guard he doesn't fit with.
...blessed with a really bad bench.
...trying to get over his mental block with FT.
...still learning how to play post-surgery.

This shit happens. Carlisle and Rondo will be fine together. Rondo is a mess right now, but if Rondo gets healthier, he's going to help the Mavs in the playoffs.

The Mavs don't have much of a choice.

But Rondo acts like a bitch, good thing we have a BOSS on the bench with Rick Carlisle. McFail or Brooks would cry if Rondo started bitching at them.

[theaussieguy]

True, the big hands theory is absurd. There's no scientific proof to sustain it, and we have countless examples of big handed players who happened to shoot very well. Hell, look at Kawhi and that's enough.

you don't need scientific proof you just need to look at him. Rondo is like a square 6 foot with the hands of a 7 footer. While his hands make him the most gifted passer in the league, and his vision allows him phenomenal reading of the game, his hands are also the reason why his shooting is spotchy.

Its just obvious when you watch him shoot. Keep in mind he also has a 6'11 wingspan, that is ****ing absurd for someone of his height and small frame yet its also the reason why he is such a good defender. A double edged sword.

Essentially, when he shoots there is so much potential for error or variation in his shot because he has so much leverage in his elbow (long arms), his wrist and then his fingers. People tell themselves he just sucks at shooting because he has mental issues but the reality is his shot just isn't smooth and never will be, there is a massive genetic component to ones ability to become a knock down shooter and it largely comes down to the fluidity in ones motion, which in Rondo's case is hindered by his very unique proportions.

[GimmeThat]

you don't need scientific proof you just need to look at him. Rondo is like a square 6 foot with the hands of a 7 footer. While his hands make him the most gifted passer in the league, and his vision allows him phenomenal reading of the game, his hands are also the reason why his shooting is spotchy.

Its just obvious when you watch him shoot. Keep in mind he also has a 6'11 wingspan, that is ****ing absurd for someone of his height and small frame yet its also the reason why he is such a good defender. A double edged sword.

Essentially, when he shoots there is so much potential for error or variation in his shot because he has so much leverage in his elbow (long arms), his wrist and then his fingers. People tell themselves he just sucks at shooting because he has mental issues but the reality is his shot just isn't smooth and never will be, there is a massive genetic component to ones ability to become a knock down shooter and it largely comes down to the fluidity in ones motion, which in Rondo's case is hindered by his very unique proportions.



I honestly thought you were talking about why people may shoot so poorly playing with a kiddie size basket.


or you know, complaining about the lack of 6'6" proto type athletes in the soccer world

[aj1987]

you don't need scientific proof you just need to look at him. Rondo is like a square 6 foot with the hands of a 7 footer. While his hands make him the most gifted passer in the league, and his vision allows him phenomenal reading of the game, his hands are also the reason why his shooting is spotchy.

Its just obvious when you watch him shoot. Keep in mind he also has a 6'11 wingspan, that is ****ing absurd for someone of his height and small frame yet its also the reason why he is such a good defender. A double edged sword.

Essentially, when he shoots there is so much potential for error or variation in his shot because he has so much leverage in his elbow (long arms), his wrist and then his fingers. People tell themselves he just sucks at shooting because he has mental issues but the reality is his shot just isn't smooth and never will be, there is a massive genetic component to ones ability to become a knock down shooter and it largely comes down to the fluidity in ones motion, which in Rondo's case is hindered by his very unique proportions.
He's not a top 10 PG in the league though. Stop overeating him.

[navy]

Rondo is garbage. Get over it. Maybe he returns to 2012 form. Maybe he doesnt. Gotta go by what we see.

[salwan]

you don't need scientific proof you just need to look at him. Rondo is like a square 6 foot with the hands of a 7 footer. While his hands make him the most gifted passer in the league, and his vision allows him phenomenal reading of the game, his hands are also the reason why his shooting is spotchy.

Its just obvious when you watch him shoot. Keep in mind he also has a 6'11 wingspan, that is ****ing absurd for someone of his height and small frame yet its also the reason why he is such a good defender. A double edged sword.

Essentially, when he shoots there is so much potential for error or variation in his shot because he has so much leverage in his elbow (long arms), his wrist and then his fingers. People tell themselves he just sucks at shooting because he has mental issues but the reality is his shot just isn't smooth and never will be, there is a massive genetic component to ones ability to become a knock down shooter and it largely comes down to the fluidity in ones motion, which in Rondo's case is hindered by his very unique proportions.
:applause:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

you don't need scientific proof you just need to look at him. Rondo is like a square 6 foot with the hands of a 7 footer. While his hands make him the most gifted passer in the league, and his vision allows him phenomenal reading of the game, his hands are also the reason why his shooting is spotchy.

Its just obvious when you watch him shoot. Keep in mind he also has a 6'11 wingspan, that is ****ing absurd for someone of his height and small frame yet its also the reason why he is such a good defender. A double edged sword.

Essentially, when he shoots there is so much potential for error or variation in his shot because he has so much leverage in his elbow (long arms), his wrist and then his fingers. People tell themselves he just sucks at shooting because he has mental issues but the reality is his shot just isn't smooth and never will be, there is a massive genetic component to ones ability to become a knock down shooter and it largely comes down to the fluidity in ones motion, which in Rondo's case is hindered by his very unique proportions.

Best post in this thread. Dudes is salty as hell.

:roll:

[StephHamann]

Rondo is garbage. Get over it. Maybe he returns to 2012 form. Maybe he doesnt. Gotta go by what we see.

The fact alone that we don't play Nelson improved the Mavs.

Give Rondo 15 minutes off the bench, maybe he can slow down guys like Harden or Lilliard for some minutes. If he still bitches around, goodbye next summer.

[pegasus]

When he was in Boston, he always elevated his game in the playoffs (once he became an elite PG). And I'm not just talking about his stats. He controlled and effected many playoff games with his play on both ends of the floor. I'd wait to see what he does in the playoffs before judging his tenure in Dallas.

[sportsfan76]

I bet Carlisle would take Rondo in a fight.

Why would you say some retarded sh*t like that?

[cruthikai352]

you don't need scientific proof you just need to look at him. Rondo is like a square 6 foot with the hands of a 7 footer. While his hands make him the most gifted passer in the league, and his vision allows him phenomenal reading of the game, his hands are also the reason why his shooting is spotchy.

Its just obvious when you watch him shoot. Keep in mind he also has a 6'11 wingspan, that is ****ing absurd for someone of his height and small frame yet its also the reason why he is such a good defender. A double edged sword.

Essentially, when he shoots there is so much potential for error or variation in his shot because he has so much leverage in his elbow (long arms), his wrist and then his fingers. People tell themselves he just sucks at shooting because he has mental issues but the reality is his shot just isn't smooth and never will be, there is a massive genetic component to ones ability to become a knock down shooter and it largely comes down to the fluidity in ones motion, which in Rondo's case is hindered by his very unique proportions.

So why doesn't he just change up his form to look like that of someone with the same proportions?

[JohnMax]

http://i.imgur.com/WtlaviU.png

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/570709901665800193

[Meticode]

Fans will soon realize if they already haven't that Rondo was a product of the Big 3 system in Boston and isn't an elite point guard talent at all. He benefited from 3 Hall of Famers.

[ZMonkey11]

this thread just confirms most people are ****ing clueless about ball. Rondo is a ****ing good player and isn't the immature cancer people make him out to be. He hasn't meshed within 20 games big surprise.

Not meshing and arguing with the coach are two different things. He had beef with Doc Rivers, as well.

[Meticode]

this thread just confirms most people are ****ing clueless about ball. Rondo is a ****ing good player and isn't the immature cancer people make him out to be. He hasn't meshed within 20 games big surprise
Not sure if you're trolling, but you just said he's a top 3 point guard still. Uhhh, no. And you talk about people knowing ball? This has nothing to do with basketball and everything to do with the group of guys that play together and the team and organization and how Rondo has handled himself.

[SamuraiSWISH]

There's a difference between being competitive, and a cancer. Fighting with coaches, disrespecting them, fighting with teammates in actual games. Rajon Rondo is cancerous, and there's time I don't understand why more don't view Russell Westbrook in a similar light. The risk / reward value isn't equal for some of these dudes.

[Budadiiii]

There's a difference between being competitive, and a cancer. Rajon Rondo is cancerous, and there's time I don't understand why more don't view Russell Westbrook in a similar light.
:facepalm

Rose tears his meniscus again and you have nothing left to do but troll. Go make some friends.

[navy]

There's a difference between being competitive, and a cancer. Fighting with coaches, disrespecting them, fighting with teammates in actual games. Rajon Rondo is cancerous, and there's time I don't understand why more don't view Russell Westbrook in a similar light. The risk / reward value isn't equal for some of these dudes.
Well Westbrook is a good player for one

[SamuraiSWISH]

Well Westbrook is a good player for one
Rondo's not?

[Jud]

:facepalm

Rose tears his meniscus again and you have nothing left to do but troll. Go make some friends.
Weren't you always shitting on Derrick Rose before this injury? :oldlol:

[navy]

Rondo's not?
No. Nothing suggest that he is anymore.

[Budadiiii]

Weren't you always shitting on Derrick Rose before this injury? :oldlol:
No?

[Graviton]

There's a difference between being competitive, and a cancer. Fighting with coaches, disrespecting them, fighting with teammates in actual games. Rajon Rondo is cancerous, and there's time I don't understand why more don't view Russell Westbrook in a similar light. The risk / reward value isn't equal for some of these dudes.
Probably has something to do with his coaches trusting him and his teammates following his lead and getting energized. Watch OKC since the trades, everyone is playing with fire and sharing the ball. Even when on the bench Westbrook is celebrating everyone's baskets or tough plays, they all love him. Reggie was the cancer in that locker room.