Westbrook is a pitiful athlete compared to the elite tier like Lebron/MJ/Carter

[theaussieguy]

his vertical is only 36.5 inches MAX. He can dunk easily only because of his long arms but its far from exciting. People need to get off his dick.

[Levity]

cool beans, bro

thanks for the info.

[Graviton]

This is like what your 3rd thread on this topic? The only one on his dick is you, friend. :oldlol:

[Milbuck]

Thanks for the thread. Would read again.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Why are you still citing his pre-draft vertical? Find some information relevant to this season please.

[theaussieguy]

This is like what your 3rd thread on this topic? The only one on his dick is you, friend. :oldlol:


someones counting? seems like you need to get off my dick my friend, get outside, get some fresh air

[aj1987]

Still a couple of tiers above Ramon Rondo as a player though.

[theaussieguy]

Why are you still citing his pre-draft vertical? Find some information relevant to this season please.

find me a single source that says his vertical is anything 40 inches and above, you won't.

All these brook fans go crawling into their holes once the truth gets told behind his abysmal vertical leap

[SugarHill]

you love this topic lol

[LONGTIME]

http://cdn4.teen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/female-sideburns.gif

[theaussieguy]

Still a couple of tiers above Ramon Rondo as a player though.

rondo won a ring as a distributive point guard and a play maker. A Westbrook type player will never ever lead a team to a ring as the first, third, or second tier player simply because his scoring ability isn't actually required from his position and only interrupts the flow of the rest of the team and in the end becomes a net negative. He isn't big enough to be a shooting guard and therefore his scoring ability is too variable because of altering defenses. He doesn't fulfill the job description, this is basketball 101 seriously. You obviously define how good a player is by pure stats, I define them by logic.

[Graviton]

someones counting? seems like you need to get off my dick my friend, get outside, get some fresh air
Guess counting to 3 is hard for you Australians. I am sorry.

[Dr Seuss]

find me a single source that says his vertical is anything 40 inches and above, you won't.

All these brook fans go crawling into their holes once the truth gets told behind his abysmal vertical leap

what are you, 11? what does his vertical leap have to do with anything? Gerald green your favorite player or something?

Westbrook is still dominating other PG's on a nightly basis, with his "girlish" leap

[SugarHill]

rondo won a ring as a distributive point guard and a play maker. A Westbrook type player will never ever lead a team to a ring as the first, third, or second tier player simply because his scoring ability isn't actually required from his position and only interrupts the flow of the rest of the team and in the end becomes a net negative. You obviously define how good a player is by pure stats, I define them by logic.
I define players by logic and not stats!

Westbrook sucks because his vertical isn't 40!

:biggums:

[Jlamb47]

Russell Westbrook vertical is higher then 36.... his head comes close to the rim on many occasions at 6'3. Hes top 3 atheltic player in the NBA probably at 1

[theaussieguy]

what are you, 11? what does his vertical leap have to do with anything? Gerald green your favorite player or something?

Westbrook is still dominating other PG's on a nightly basis, with his "girlish" leap

Read the thread title again, does it mention the caliber of Westbrook as a player? No (although I think hes overrated as shit but thats for another thread), its simply about his athletic ability which isn't really on the level all these Brook stans act.

[theaussieguy]

I define players by logic and not stats!

Westbrook sucks because his vertical isn't 40!

:biggums:

when i define players (aka how good someone is at basketball dumbass) I use logic, like the thread title suggests when it comes to athletic ability there is nothing more reliable than stats. Dumbass

36.5 inch vert LOL, ****ing grade school shti right there. I swear people all up on his dick act like hes some hyper athlete or some shit.

[SugarHill]

Read the thread title again, does it mention the caliber of Westbrook as a player? No (although I think hes overrated as shit but thats for another thread), its simply about his athletic ability which isn't really on the level all these Brook stans act.

What are you talking about? What PG in the league today is even comparable to him as an athlete? If he's overrated, then everyone else is dogshit. :oldlol:

[JohnMax]

How come he can leap from longer distance than most players?


http://i.imgur.com/UqYfXmp.png

http://i.imgur.com/jbyLOIh.png

[dubnation]

I agree his vertical isn't off-the-charts impressive, especially off one foot, but he has elite explosiveness/burst, strength and straight line speed. And he never gets tired.

[SugarHill]

when i define players (aka how good someone is at basketball dumbass), like the thread title suggests, when it comes to athletic ability there is nothing more reliable than stats. Dumbass

Yeah, you know, aside from how they use their athleticism during in game situations. :facepalm

I ask again, who the fvck in the PG position is even remotely in Westbrook's vicinity right now?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

find me a single source that says his vertical is anything 40 inches and above, you won't.

All these brook fans go crawling into their holes once the truth gets told behind his abysmal vertical leap

Find me something from his playing career. You're citing information that you know is outdated to advance your anti-Westbrook agenda (which is based purely off of his vertical...100% retarded).

I mean, it's not like you have any credibility left after calling Rondo a top-3 PG but at least try to stay objective.

[OldSchoolBBall]

How come he can leap from further distance than most players?


http://i.imgur.com/UqYfXmp.png

http://i.imgur.com/jbyLOIh.png

I disagree with the OP, but a lot of Westbrook being able to jump from far out and make it to the rim is because he is INSANELY fast. There are two components to the horizontal distance traveled during a leap: vertical displacement and horizontal velocity upon takeoff (ignoring air resistance). What he may lack in one (pure vert) he makes up for in the other (velocity).

[navy]

Pre draft verticals?

[SugarHill]

Guess who had a 41 vertical?

OJ Mayo

OJ Mayo is more athletic than Westbrook.

[SugarHill]

I disagree with the OP, but a lot of Westbrook being able to jump from far out and make it to the rim is because he is INSANELY fast. There are two components to the horizontal distance traveled during a leap: vertical displacement and horizontal velocity upon takeoff (ignoring air resistance). What he may lack in one (pure vert) he makes up for in the other (velocity).

How about hitting the backboard during dunks at 6'3?

[inclinerator]

u know he may not be going all out at the combine

[theaussieguy]

Find me something from his playing career. You're citing information that you know is outdated to advance your anti-Westbrook agenda.

I mean, it's not like you have any credibility left after calling Rondo a top-3 PG but at least try to stay objective.

ur an nba fan its obvious, nba likes to prop up their superstars at the expensive of real basketball. They make a lot of money by feeding the egos and consequently ruining team chemistry by propping up certain individuals with x factor.

real basketball fans can see through the veil and its clear that there are only a few PG's in the league that are actually built for championship teams (aka Rondo), but the NBA will continue to blind you like the sheep you are and have you believe basketball is all about egos and superstars. **SPURS** cough

[sd3035]

location: Australia

If the thread isn't about kangaroos or crocodiles, it's irrelevant

[SugarHill]

ur an nba fan its obvious, nba likes to prop up their superstars at the expensive of real basketball. They make a lot of money by feeding the egos and consequently ruining team chemistry by propping up certain individuals with x factor.

real basketball fans can see through the veil and its clear that there are only a few PG's in the league that are actually built for championship teams (aka Rondo), but the NBA will continue to blind you like the sheep you are and have you believe basketball is all about egos and superstars. **SPURS** cough

Rondo was the 4th best player on his championship team :applause:

[theaussieguy]

location: Australia

If the thread isn't about kangaroos or crocodiles, it's irrelevant

brook fan here

[theaussieguy]

Rondo was the 4th best player on his championship team :applause:

thats nice and all but we are talking purely PG's, its totally situational, there wasnt a better PG in the league more suited to starting for that C's team.

smh, nother brainwashed nba fan HURR DURR STATS, HURR DURRR

[SugarHill]

thats nice and all but we are talking purely PG's, its totally situational, there wasnt a better PG in the league more suited to starting for that C's team.

smh, nother brainwashed nba fan HURR DURR STATS, HURR DURRR

I was wondering why you dodged that question about who is more athletic than Westbrook. Well? Who is it? List some names. I mean, Westbrook is a joke so surely there are at least 5 names off the top of your head, no? Let's see them :bowdown:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

ur an nba fan its obvious, nba likes to prop up their superstars at the expensive of real basketball. They make a lot of money by feeding the egos and consequently ruining team chemistry by propping up certain individuals with x factor.

real basketball fans can see through the veil and its clear that there are only a few PG's in the league that are actually built for championship teams (aka Rondo), but the NBA will continue to blind you like the sheep you are and have you believe basketball is all about egos and superstars. **SPURS** cough

Cite a relevant source, stop avoiding the request.

You're talking about the NBA propping players up while judging a top-2 PG solely for his vertical. Vertical =/= "real basketball." Out of curiosity, what's Rondo's vertical?

[Pointguard]

his vertical is only 36.5 inches MAX. He can dunk easily only because of his long arms but its far from exciting. People need to get off his dick.
That was a one day measure. He might have been with his lady before the jump. Its definitely 40 plus.

[aj1987]

rondo won a ring as a distributive point guard and a play maker. A Westbrook type player will never ever lead a team to a ring as the first, third, or second tier player simply because his scoring ability isn't actually required from his position and only interrupts the flow of the rest of the team and in the end becomes a net negative. He isn't big enough to be a shooting guard and therefore his scoring ability is too variable because of altering defenses. He doesn't fulfill the job description, this is basketball 101 seriously. You obviously define how good a player is by pure stats, I define them by logic.
Yeah, I actually watch WB play so your post is moot. Rondo is a known statpadder. Dude gives up OPEN jumpshots and layups to pad his assist totals. Sulks like a 2 year old. He basically has the mentality of a toddler. He won a ring. With KG, Allen, and Pierce. He was a role-player on that team. Nothing more. Westbrook would average a dozen assists a game if he didn't have to score 20-25+ a game (something which Rondo doesn't have to do).

You know what? WB averages only 2.5 fewer assists than Rondo, while averaging 9 points more per game.

[Graviton]

Yeah, I actually watch WB play so your post is moot. Rondo is a known statpadder. Dude gives up OPEN jumpshots and layups to pad his assist totals. Sulks like a 2 year old. He basically has the mentality of a toddler. He won a ring. With KG, Allen, and Pierce. He was a role-player on that team. Nothing more. Westbrook would average a dozen assists a game if he didn't have to score 20-25+ a game (something which Rondo doesn't have to do).

You know what? WB averages only 2.5 fewer assists than Rondo, while averaging 9 points more per game.
And this season Westbrook is averaging 0.3 less assists than Rondo, while scoring 18 more points, outrebounding him and getting more steals. His PER is over double Rondo's. :oldlol:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

You know what? WB averages only 2.5 fewer assists than Rondo, while averaging 9 points more per game.

Closer to 19 than 9.

Rondo is averaging 8.6 PPG, Westbrook is averaging 25.9 PPG.

He's much closer than 2.5 in assists too, Rondo is averaging 8.3 APG, Westbrook is averaging 8.

[04mzwach]

Wiggins, Lavine are setting the standards for what great athleticism is. I feel bad for the league with Wiggins and Lavine around in 3 years. :bowdown:

[ralph_i_el]

Nick Young set the no-step vert record at the combine.

Shows you how much that's worth lol.

Lol @ judging someone's athleticism off a few jumps years ago at the combine. Those of us that actually get to watch games know just how athletic Westbrook is.

[SugarHill]

Closer to 19 than 9.

Rondo is averaging 8.6 PPG, Westbrook is averaging 25.9 PPG.

He's much closer than 2.5 in assists too, Rondo is averaging 8.3 APG, Westbrook is averaging 8.
This isn't Rondo at his best and even then, Westbrook, right now, is a better player than Rondo ever was.

[ralph_i_el]

ur an nba fan its obvious, nba likes to prop up their superstars at the expensive of real basketball. They make a lot of money by feeding the egos and consequently ruining team chemistry by propping up certain individuals with x factor.

real basketball fans can see through the veil and its clear that there are only a few PG's in the league that are actually built for championship teams (aka Rondo), but the NBA will continue to blind you like the sheep you are and have you believe basketball is all about egos and superstars. **SPURS** cough

Rondo was never a top-3 pg even is his prime. So so so overrated. "Championship point guard" who still can't shoot. He was the least valuable starter for those championship Celtics.


Even if other guys put up better raw athletic stats than Westbrook, Westbrook has the balls to use his full athleticism during games.

[RRR3]

Russell Westbrook: 25.9 PPG/6.5 RPG/8.0 APG/2.0 SPG/0.1 BPG on .437/.291/.839 in 32.6 MPG


Rajon "Ben Wallace would beat me in a FT shooting contest" Rondo: 8.6 PPG/5.9 RPG/8.3 APG/1.5 SPG/0.1 BPG on .407/.318/.311 shooting in 29.9 MPG



:roll: :roll: :roll:

[SOD 21]

Simply put, Russell Westbrook is the most athletic point guard in the history of the league, bar none.

Although that may be difficult for some to accept, but it is true.

[SugarHill]

Simply put, Russell Westbrook is the most athletic point guard in the history of the league, bar none.

Although that may be difficult for some to accept, but it is true.

1a. Rose
1b. Westbrook
1c. Franchise

[Cold soul]

Great thread TS. I would read again. :rolleyes:

[FKAri]

Simply put, Russell Westbrook is the most athletic point guard in the history of the league, bar none.

Although that may be difficult for some to accept, but it is true.

Rose in 2011 was more athletic I think. He had the agility that WB doesn't have. Granted Rose is smaller, but the gap was sizeable.

[Jailblazers7]

So wait...what's Westbrook's vertical again?

[OldSchoolBBall]

So wait...what's Westbrook's vertical again?

POVERTY.

[SOD 21]

Rose in 2011 was more athletic I think. He had the agility that WB doesn't have. Granted Rose is smaller, but the gap was sizeable.

The 2011 version of Rose is arguable in this discussion.

Derrick Rose is definitely more agile and has ability to change directions better than Westbrook and he's also more ambidextrous with a better ability to finish around the rim on various acrobatic shots with either hand.

Although from the eye test, Russell Westbrook appears to be more explosive, stronger and finishes with more veracity around the rim. I will also give Westbrook advantage over Rose because he's played at a higher level for a longer period of time and Rose, unfortunately, is more of a flash in the pan due to injuries because he hasn't been elite for four years.

[Genaro]

Who cares if his leaping ability isn't the best of all time? The man is doing a phenomenal work in the NBA, living the dream while you're writing no sense on ISH.
I guess a lot of players would love to have his vertical.

[FKAri]

Who cares if his leaping ability isn't the best of all time? The man is doing a phenomenal work in the NBA, living the dream while you're writing no sense on ISH.
I guess a lot of players would love to have his vertical.

Maybe OP's an astronaut. :confusedshrug: