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robert_shaww
02-25-2015, 04:11 PM
Replace the following PF for Duncan (5 Rings) in 1998 (same age, no injuries, same spurs squads and coach, same opponents, how many rings?)
16 NBA Seasons
1- Charles Barkley
2- Karl Malone
3- Kevin Garnett
4- Dirk Nowitzki
PD: T_L_P be honest.
Tim Duncan's defense is pretty irreplaceable except by Garnett on that list.
Id say they would have to change the team around too much to count their rings.
T_L_P
02-25-2015, 04:20 PM
Like Navy said, only Garnett is an elite defender out of that group...and his offense wasn't as effective as Duncan's in the postseason.
Exact same teammates...Garnett wins 3 (04, 07, maybe 08 [if Barry gets the call])...Dirk/Malone/Barkley win 2 at most.
Wade's Rings
02-25-2015, 04:51 PM
Like Navy said, only Garnett is an elite defender out of that group...and his offense wasn't as effective as Duncan's in the postseason.
Exact same teammates...Garnett wins 3 (04, 07, maybe 08 [if Barry gets the call])...Dirk/Malone/Barkley win 2 at most.
Why not 1999? Or 05?
robert_shaww
02-25-2015, 04:53 PM
Like Navy said, only Garnett is an elite defender out of that group...and his offense wasn't as effective as Duncan's in the postseason.
Exact same teammates...Garnett wins 3 (04, 07, maybe 08 [if Barry gets the call])...Dirk/Malone/Barkley win 2 at most.
spurs dont win in 05 with garnett or barkley or malone?? duncan struggled against detroit, and why not 03??
Kblaze8855
02-25-2015, 05:03 PM
Im not going year by year considering what level the guy would be after ____ years in the league...so im just saying the player in the general level of his prime...
Id say...
99 - KG, Barkley, and Malone could have potentially won it but I wouldnt bet on any of them. And I might cut it to just KG and Malone. Im not sure how much Dirk and Barkleys defense hurts. Malone wasnt a great defender but he did try...and he had the physical tools.
03. I dont think any of them but Duncan win that year.
05 and 07...id give them all a chance.
14 id say they all have a great chance with Dirk and KG making that team better than Malone and Barkley who would both stop the ball movement a bit.
Dirk and Barkleys lack of defensive effort/ability would slow some of those team but I dont think it hits too hard 07 on. They would be more valuable on offense than the aging Duncan most of the time without taking enough from the D to keep them from contending.
IncarceratedBob
02-25-2015, 05:04 PM
He asked for NBA experts and not a single one reply here is by an expert. Get out of here kids. Honestly KG might win more titles, he's a great leader which is something Duncan has never been. He's unable to light a fire under his teammates.
ImKobe
02-25-2015, 05:14 PM
1- Charles Barkley - Maybe one ring
2- Karl Malone - 1-2 rings
3- Kevin Garnett - 3-4
4- Dirk Nowitzki - 2-3
robert_shaww
02-25-2015, 05:18 PM
1- Charles Barkley - Maybe one ring
2- Karl Malone - 1-2 rings
3- Kevin Garnett - 3-4
4- Dirk Nowitzki - 2-3
barkley is really underrated in this forum...1993 charles barkley was better than the best duncan (2003?)....give him prime manu and tony., and goat roles players horry and bowen and he wins every year.
barkley is really overrated in this forum...1993 charles barkley was better than the best duncan (2003?)....give him prime manu and tony., and goat roles players horry and bowen and he wins every year.
:oldlol:
Who are your favorite Spurs players all time Robert?
r0drig0lac
02-25-2015, 05:25 PM
He asked for NBA experts and not a single one reply here is by an expert. Get out of here kids. Honestly KG might win more titles, he's a great leader which is something Duncan has never been. He's unable to light a fire under his teammates.
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robert_shaww
02-25-2015, 05:26 PM
:oldlol:
1993 playoffs:
barkley:
26.6 PTS
13.6 REB
4.3 AST
Faced Michael Jordan Bulls in the finals (guarded by Horace Grant) also Payton and Kemp Sonics...
2003 Playoffs
Duncan
24.7 PTS
15.4 REB
5.3 AST
Faced Jason Kidd nets in the finals (guarded by k martin) also dirk less mavs...
Lebronxrings
02-25-2015, 05:27 PM
all win 5-7 rings. Duncan is pretty overrated. Any big man with pop can look like a star.
1993 playoffs:
barkley:
26.6 PTS
13.6 REB
4.3 AST
Faced Michael Jordan Bulls in the finals (guarded by Horace Grant) also Payton and Kemp Sonics...
2003 Playoffs
Duncan
24.7 PTS
15.4 REB
5.3 AST
Faced Jason Kidd nets in the finals (guarded by k martin) also dirk less mavs...
I was laughing at you calling Barkley overrated. And then saying he was better than Duncan. Not that I disagree/agree.
Who are your favorite spurs players?
robert_shaww
02-25-2015, 05:27 PM
Who are your favorite Spurs players all time Robert?
Favorite only Ginobili.
Miss Bowen and Horry.
robert_shaww
02-25-2015, 05:28 PM
I was laughing at you calling Barkley overrated. And then saying he was better than Duncan. Not that I disagree/agree.
Who are your favorite spurs players?
sorry, wanted to say underrated.....:oldlol:
sorry, wanted to say underrated.....:oldlol:
I thought so, just making sure. :oldlol:
Who do you credit the most for Duncan's success?
T_L_P
02-25-2015, 05:34 PM
1993 playoffs:
barkley:
26.6 PTS
13.6 REB
4.3 AST
Faced Michael Jordan Bulls in the finals (guarded by Horace Grant) also Payton and Kemp Sonics...
2003 Playoffs
Duncan
24.7 PTS
15.4 REB
5.3 AST
Faced Jason Kidd nets in the finals (guarded by k martin) also dirk less mavs...
93 Suns: 114 PPG
03 Spurs: 94 PPG
Barkley played on a much faster team and his stats still aren't better...and then there's the gigantic defensive gap. :oldlol:
He asked for NBA experts and not a single one reply here is by an expert. Get out of here kids. Honestly KG might win more titles, he's a great leader which is something Duncan has never been. He's unable to light a fire under his teammates.
Even though every player Duncan's ever played with has called him an exceptional leader? :facepalm
Garnett hates foreigners too so good luck getting him to mesh well with the most foreign team in league history. :facepalm
T_L_P
02-25-2015, 05:37 PM
all win 5-7 rings. Duncan is pretty overrated. Any big man with pop can look like a star.
Even though he's had a plethora of bigs and only two of them were stars (Duncan and Robinson)?
Who are these big men Pop turns into stars?
robert_shaww
02-25-2015, 05:44 PM
I thought so, just making sure. :oldlol:
Who do you credit the most for Duncan's success?
Spurs succes from 05-14
popovich: 35%
weak era: 20%
ginobili: 15%
duncan: 15%
parker & role players: 15%
Spurs succes from 05-14
popovich: 35%
weak era: 20%
ginobili: 15%
duncan: 15%
parker & role players: 15%
Oh, I would agree Duncan is slightly overrated from those years when compared to his contemporaries.
But you cant deny his peak years and longevity to play all those years. :confusedshrug:
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