Are yall ready for the backslide!

[Akrazotile]

Ok, so, first of all if you're one of these liberals who actually takes silly, archaic fairy tales about everyone being equal on a literal level, this will probably offend you. It is something that absolutely won't be discussed in the mainstream media, and because most people only think about what is presented to them by the mainstream media, it's not something that has even occurred to most people out there.

BUT... right now, humanity is actually in the midst of its first ever backslide of average IQ.

The reason is very simple. For the overwhelming majority of civilized human history, smart people were more likely to produce surviving offspring. Over the course of time, this gradually improved the intelligence of man as a whole. Pretty obvious.

It is also established at this point by academic research (steven pinker, a legit cognitive scientist employed TODAY at Harvard, not an angry bigot from the 1800s with an agenda) that different regions of the globe have produced populations with varied average IQs. And not just the basic black, white, asian either, different subgroups (japs, jews, aboriginals etc.) all test distinctly.

This makes sense because over time different cultures and geographies required different evolved skill sets. "The west" has basically had by far the largest impact on global civilization as a whole and continues to do so today, and thus we tend to view 'intelligence' as those types of skills that produce success in a westernized world. Of course, the whole world is essentially now westernized, and an IQ as it is perceived by modern sensibilities is essentially the determinant of how 'smart' you will typically be perceived. The instinct of recognizing patterns on plants that indicate poisonousness, or the inherent ability to grapple with a physical combatant are not skills that are as demonstrable or important today as being able to solve a geometry puzzle.



Ok, so we have this established as a fact. We know the usual crowd, boozehound, deucewallaces, these types will go full ad hominem on me as a form of "counter point" because the intellectual mandate they have from the social group they want to be be identified as being a part of, requires that they not acknowledge any politically incorrect observations or experimentally affirmed theories regardless of scientific merit. But for those of you who ARENT scared to use your own brain, let's go on.



If you look a map of population growth, you'll see that the most rapidly reproducing regions of the globe are Africa and the Middle East. The reason, as you're surely aware, is that these are the most impoverished areas where people don't have access to and/or interest in birth control. Now it just so happens, that if we compare the population growth map of the world to an IQ map of the world..... Well you see where this is going. Even within individual countries like the U.S., successful people are having fewer kids, but kids who are being raised and educated in a markedly more meaningful way than the ones in the hood or in the sticks, who generally come from mothers with lots of kids but little education or parenting skills. MOST of these kids typically, through a combination of nature and nurture, develop into the same sorts of people.


Meanwhile, American 'suburbanites' (mostly white, but it's more about class than race), europeans and asians are experiencing significant drops in birth rate. While the average woman in Nigeria has six kids.


Due to technological advances and the efforts to implement them around the world, including third world countries, survivability across the entire spectrum of intelligence is much greater. Natural selection has basically stopped, and lower IQ populations are outproducing higher IQ populations by almost double.


What this means mathematically is that for the first time EVER... humans are actually going to be less intelligent on the whole in future generations. I can see this first hand walking around Hollywood. The youth here are increasingly minority and the way they act and interact in public is just astonishing by smart people standards. The backslide is very, VERY real.



Whatchu think? Intelligent posters only.


Also, it's unfortunate that race is the elephant in the room because we all know there are africa/black posters here, or guys in our circle of friends etc. who might for obvious reasons find this a sensitive issue. Certainly there are plenty of African, middle eastern, maybe even an aboriginal or two out there who are smarter than I am. In fact, the black posters on this board might even be smarter and more civil than the white posters here on average. But globally the data is what it is, and it's pretty much fact. So, we can either be men and discuss it or we can be cowardly women and shy away from this very, very interesting socio-philosophical topic. I say let's talk about it.

Opinions please!

[Chief Keef]

Ok, so, first of all if you're one of these liberals who actually takes silly, archaic fairy tales about everyone being equal on a literal level, this will probably offend you. It is something that absolutely won't be discussed in the mainstream media, and because most people only think about what is presented to them by the mainstream media, it's not something that has even occurred to most people out there.

BUT... right now, humanity is actually in the midst of its first ever backslide of average IQ.

The reason is very simple. For the overwhelming majority of civilized human history, smart people were more likely to produce surviving offspring. Over the course of time, this gradually improved the intelligence of man as a whole. Pretty obvious.

It is also established at this point by academic research (steven pinker, a legit cognitive scientist employed TODAY at Harvard, not an angry bigot from the 1800s with an agenda) that different regions of the globe have produced populations with varied average IQs. And not just the basic black, white, asian either, different subgroups (japs, jews, aboriginals etc.) all test distinctly.

This makes sense because over time different cultures and geographies required different evolved skill sets. "The west" has basically had by far the largest impact on global civilization as a whole and continues to do so today, and thus we tend to view 'intelligence' as those types of skills that produce success in a westernized world. Of course, the whole world is essentially now westernized, and an IQ as it is perceived by modern sensibilities is essentially the determinant of how 'smart' you will typically be perceived. The instinct of recognizing patterns on plants that indicate poisonousness, or the inherent ability to grapple with a physical combatant are not skills that are as demonstrable or important today as being able to solve a geometry puzzle.



Ok, so we have this established as a fact. We know the usual crowd, boozehound, deucewallaces, these types will go full ad hominem on me as a form of "counter point" because the intellectual mandate they have from the social group they want to be be identified as being a part of, requires that they not acknowledge any politically incorrect observations or experimentally affirmed theories regardless of scientific merit. But for those of you who ARENT scared to use your own brain, let's go on.



If you look a map of population growth, you'll see that the most rapidly reproducing regions of the globe are Africa and the Middle East. The reason, as you're surely aware, is that these are the most impoverished areas where people don't have access to and/or interest in birth control. Now it just so happens, that if we compare the population growth map of the world to an IQ map of the world..... Well you see where this is going. Even within individual countries like the U.S., successful people are having fewer kids, but kids who are being raised and educated in a markedly more meaningful way than the ones in the hood or in the sticks, who generally come from mothers with lots of kids but little education or parenting skills. MOST of these kids typically, through a combination of nature and nurture, develop into the same sorts of people.


Meanwhile, American 'suburbanites' (mostly white, but it's more about class than race), europeans and asians are experiencing significant drops in birth rate. While the average woman in Nigeria has six kids.


Due to technological advances and the efforts to implement them around the world, including third world countries, survivability across the entire spectrum of intelligence is much greater. Natural selection has basically stopped, and lower IQ populations are outproducing higher IQ populations by almost double.


What this means mathematically is that for the first time EVER... humans are actually going to be less intelligent on the whole in future generations. I can see this first hand walking around Hollywood. The youth here are increasingly minority and the way they act and interact in public is just astonishing by smart people standards. The backslide is very, VERY real.



Whatchu think? Intelligent posters only.


Also, it's unfortunate that race is the elephant in the room because we all know there are africa/black posters here, or guys in our circle of friends etc. who might for obvious reasons find this a sensitive issue. Certainly there are plenty of African, middle eastern, maybe even an aboriginal or two out there who are smarter than I am. In fact, the black posters on this board might even be smarter and more civil than the white posters here on average. But globally the data is what it is, and it's pretty much fact. So, we can either be men and discuss it or we can be cowardly women and shy away from this very, very interesting socio-philosophical topic. I say let's talk about it.

Opinions please!
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[Akrazotile]

Well said, Mr. Keef.

[Batzboy]

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[IcanzIIravor]

Admittedly I only skimmed what you wrote, but it seems like you are equating low intellect with poverty and rapid population growth in impoverished nations.

[Jailblazers7]

Advancements in medicine is all well and good but I'd bet that life expectancy in sub Saharan Africa is probably around half or 60% of fully westernized countries. I think your claim is hard to take at face value without some sort of real calculation.

IQ differences probably aren't as drastic as you imagine within Westernized countries either. Outcomes are radically different but I'd bet that the variation isn't crazy. I'd be interest to see legit info on it tho.

[Akrazotile]

Admittedly I only skimmed what you wrote, but it seems like you are equating low intellect with poverty and rapid population growth in impoverished nations.


Yep, and I think those two points are not in and of themselves surprising to most people.

But what I rarely here discussed is how this is actually going to affect the future.

For the vast majority of all civilization, people with more resources had the access to the very limited supply of medical technology or knowledge. Now with the proliferation of medical technology, social healthcare, global aid etc. we are basically stopping natural selection in its tracks. Simultaneously, due to the advent of birth control and the temptation in the first-world societies to focus more on career and personal indulgence than having large families, people who come from higher intellectual genetic backgrounds are actually reproducing at the lowest rates in history.


Population sizes and intelligence have huge ramifications for geo-political issues, economic issues like wealth gaps and all sorts of things. I mean this is an unprecedented shift in the history of mankind. I think it's really fascinating.

Only in the past handful of decades have family sizes really started to reduce among more prosperous peoples. We are in the midst of a literal backslide in human intelligence. I just think that's so fascinating. And there's really no way to recover once it's happened. Primal circumstance is what initially shaped our evolution, now technology has basically evened that out. We are permanently as a species about to become less intelligent it seems.


Isn't that crazy???

[IcanzIIravor]

Yep, and I think those two points are not in and of themselves surprising to most people.

But what I rarely here discussed is how this is actually going to affect the future.

For the vast majority of all civilization, people with more resources had the access to the very limited supply of medical technology or knowledge. Now with the proliferation of medical technology, social healthcare, global aid etc. we are basically stopping natural selection in its tracks. Simultaneously, due to the advent of birth control and the temptation in the first-world societies to focus more on career and personal indulgence than having large families, people who come from higher intellectual genetic backgrounds are actually reproducing at the lowest rates in history.


Population sizes and intelligence have huge ramifications for geo-political issues, economic issues like wealth gaps and all sorts of things. I mean this is an unprecedented shift in the history of mankind. I think it's really fascinating.

Only in the past handful of decades have family sizes really started to reduce among more prosperous peoples. We are in the midst of a literal backslide in human intelligence. I just think that's so fascinating. And there's really no way to recover once it's happened. Primal circumstance is what initially shaped our evolution, now technology has basically evened that out. We are permanently as a species about to become less intelligent it seems.


Isn't that crazy???

Aren't you conflating ignorance with low intellect though? Lack of opportunity doesn't have to mean person A has a lower IQ than person B, who grew up in a first world environment. Interesting discussion though.

[GreggPopazit]

I think it is more worth my time to re-watch Idiocracy than read that post.

[Akrazotile]

Advancements in medicine is all well and good but I'd bet that life expectancy in sub Saharan Africa is probably around half or 60% of fully westernized countries. I think your claim is hard to take at face value without some sort of real calculation.


Look online for maps of global population growth. Pick any one you want from any .edu, .gov, .org etc.

That means total number of people, not simply birth rate, so it accounts for all that stuff. Africa and the Middle East are experiencing the highest rates of population increase. That's a well documented fact.


This seems to be something that is rooted pretty firmly in science. I'm sure our local fugazi PC scientists boozehound and deucewallaces will probably attack the idea, but fail to find an entry point to attack the logic. I mean it's become demonstrably clear that this is simply a real thing, and anyone who knows anything about evolution should be able to see causal factors pretty easily.

I honestly don't want to make this a political discussion or referendum on political correctness. I think this is a fascinating concept that humanity is actually going to take a SIGNIFICANT step back. Look into the numbers for IQ averages across populations, I'm not gonna post em here, and look at population directions. This isn't just like a tiny little blip within a margin of error. The global population is going to be LESS biologically intelligent in about 50 years. It's incredible.

[Akrazotile]

Aren't you conflating ignorance with low intellect though? Lack of opportunity doesn't have to mean person A has a lower IQ than person B, who grew up in a first world environment. Interesting discussion though.


They are both factors. A certain range of capacity for intelligence is likely to be innate, and the social environment then plays a part in how it develops. Even within the same school district of kids from the same demographics, family incomes, childhood experiences etc. you have some kids who do very well on standardized tests at an early age, and some who do poorly. Individual variance is natural, and so is regional variance. Again, what we think of as 'intelligence' in a westernized world are the traits that were most useful in Europe and to a degree Asia for centuries. Think about a man who was a shrewd financier in 15th century London, versus a man who was a semi-intelligent farmer. The financier accumulated more resources, was able to supply his children with food and medical care etc. and the offspring with his genetic proclivity for intelligence were more likely to survive.

Then think about Native Americans during that same time. The survival difference wasn't about social class. They were all hunter/gatherers or crop growers etc. If there was a resource shortage, rationing was more likely to come down to physical prowess. Intelligence did not drive a difference between peoples survivability, at least to the same extent.

I mean science is currently bearing this out. Again, part of it is a result of us perceiving "intelligence" in a westernized way. But the reality is that's now the way of the world. And western intelligence is what generally dictates success. Again, ALL populations have very intelligent people, and very unintelligent people. But types of intelligence are demonstrated to be varied among historically geographically diverse groups due to thousands and thousands of years of evolution. For the first time in the history of man, that is now stopping. It's a fundamental end of a massive era of humanity. I mean it's really a huge thing IMO.


Evolution is basically grinding to a halt thanks to the global proliferation of first-world technology. But the people who created it aren't reproducing, and the people who did not create it are benefiting from it and rapidly reproducing much more quickly. Of course we're all still people, but in terms of global regions, there are quantifiable characteristic differences. Humanity has been on a step by step incline of intelligence since it began, but it appears the final step will be a step back, and then it'll basically stop.

Crazy.

[DonD13]

Ok, so, first of all if you're one of these liberals who actually takes silly, archaic fairy tales about everyone being equal on a literal level, this will probably offend you. It is something that absolutely won't be discussed in the mainstream media, and because most people only think about what is presented to them by the mainstream media, it's not something that has even occurred to most people out there.

BUT... right now, humanity is actually in the midst of its first ever backslide of average IQ.

The reason is very simple. For the overwhelming majority of civilized human history, smart people were more likely to produce surviving offspring. Over the course of time, this gradually improved the intelligence of man as a whole. Pretty obvious.

It is also established at this point by academic research (steven pinker, a legit cognitive scientist employed TODAY at Harvard, not an angry bigot from the 1800s with an agenda) that different regions of the globe have produced populations with varied average IQs. And not just the basic black, white, asian either, different subgroups (japs, jews, aboriginals etc.) all test distinctly.

This makes sense because over time different cultures and geographies required different evolved skill sets. "The west" has basically had by far the largest impact on global civilization as a whole and continues to do so today, and thus we tend to view 'intelligence' as those types of skills that produce success in a westernized world. Of course, the whole world is essentially now westernized, and an IQ as it is perceived by modern sensibilities is essentially the determinant of how 'smart' you will typically be perceived. The instinct of recognizing patterns on plants that indicate poisonousness, or the inherent ability to grapple with a physical combatant are not skills that are as demonstrable or important today as being able to solve a geometry puzzle.



Ok, so we have this established as a fact. We know the usual crowd, boozehound, deucewallaces, these types will go full ad hominem on me as a form of "counter point" because the intellectual mandate they have from the social group they want to be be identified as being a part of, requires that they not acknowledge any politically incorrect observations or experimentally affirmed theories regardless of scientific merit. But for those of you who ARENT scared to use your own brain, let's go on.



If you look a map of population growth, you'll see that the most rapidly reproducing regions of the globe are Africa and the Middle East. The reason, as you're surely aware, is that these are the most impoverished areas where people don't have access to and/or interest in birth control. Now it just so happens, that if we compare the population growth map of the world to an IQ map of the world..... Well you see where this is going. Even within individual countries like the U.S., successful people are having fewer kids, but kids who are being raised and educated in a markedly more meaningful way than the ones in the hood or in the sticks, who generally come from mothers with lots of kids but little education or parenting skills. MOST of these kids typically, through a combination of nature and nurture, develop into the same sorts of people.


Meanwhile, American 'suburbanites' (mostly white, but it's more about class than race), europeans and asians are experiencing significant drops in birth rate. While the average woman in Nigeria has six kids.


Due to technological advances and the efforts to implement them around the world, including third world countries, survivability across the entire spectrum of intelligence is much greater. Natural selection has basically stopped, and lower IQ populations are outproducing higher IQ populations by almost double.


What this means mathematically is that for the first time EVER... humans are actually going to be less intelligent on the whole in future generations. I can see this first hand walking around Hollywood. The youth here are increasingly minority and the way they act and interact in public is just astonishing by smart people standards. The backslide is very, VERY real.



Whatchu think? Intelligent posters only.


Also, it's unfortunate that race is the elephant in the room because we all know there are africa/black posters here, or guys in our circle of friends etc. who might for obvious reasons find this a sensitive issue. Certainly there are plenty of African, middle eastern, maybe even an aboriginal or two out there who are smarter than I am. In fact, the black posters on this board might even be smarter and more civil than the white posters here on average. But globally the data is what it is, and it's pretty much fact. So, we can either be men and discuss it or we can be cowardly women and shy away from this very, very interesting socio-philosophical topic. I say let's talk about it.

Opinions please!

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[Akrazotile]

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Here, let me link you to the intellectual arena where you belong.




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[Chief Keef]

Future generation >>>> previous one
Next.

[Akrazotile]

Future generation >>>> previous one
Next.


Excellent insight.


Here, click this link:

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[Chief Keef]

Excellent insight.


Here, click this link:

www.jerryspringertv.com


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Thanks for linking me to videos of the previous generation making fools of themselves! Hold this L for me.
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[Jailblazers7]

Quick Google search has me kind of interested in this question. But what are you suggesting the ramifications will be?

[Akrazotile]

Quick Google search has me kind of interested in this question. But what are you suggesting the ramifications will be?


Well obviously there are tons of different possibilities, and areas wherein it could have an effect.


First of all, I think in Asian countries which are all still pretty homogenous in terms of having asian populations, and currently make up a huge percentage of the world's population, things are likely to remain status quo for some time. Those countries are likely to remain overwhelmingly Asian for a while. But like Japan for instance, where IQ tests generally are higher than the global average, they are having a population crisis. The Japanese aren't reproducing. China of course has its one child policy. The younger generations in Korea and other Asian countries are focusing more on careers than having families.

But in Europe and America, immigration of non-europeans is rising, while european birth rates are falling well below the birth rates of immigrants. It's conceivable to argue that whites could become the new jews in future generations. Small minorities with pedigrees in certain white collar occupations, which gives them an economic leg up but also puts a target on their back for disgruntled populations who see them as manipulators and usurpers. I mean as America becomes more brown, the politicians will become more brown. Just like in medieval Europe you'd have, for instance, French ruling class, French peasants, and Jewish merchants/bankers as a kind of fulcrum between the two. As was the case in most European countries. This could eventually happen with white people. I mean this is a complete speculation I'm throwing out off the top of my head, but it's an example of the sort of theoretical futures this sort of trend could lead to. The trend itself is already being verified as real by numerous studies, the question is what does it mean going forward? That's what I'm HOPING to open up for discussion.


Also I jsut think it's so insane to think about how we are literally the verge of the end of humanity's evolution. Evolution is some genes surviving while others do not. As healthcare technology and availability continue to expand around the globe, we are ensuring the survival of everyone, and thus no particular traits become selected for in new generations. But while that is happening, people with higher intelligences are utilizing birth control to a much greater degree, ensuring that the balance actually tilts BACKWARD for the next few generations.

I mean if you look at a chart of homo sapien intelligence, it would be a step by step by step by step incline over hundreds of thousands of years, and now..... it's about to teeter, drop back a bit, then just stop.

That's incredible!

[NBAplayoffs2001]

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I saw this while listening to AZ - Once Again. Dying with the beat that song has while watching this gif :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Jailblazers7]

Well obviously there are tons of different possibilities, and areas wherein it could have an effect.


First of all, I think in Asian countries which are all still pretty homogenous in terms of having asian populations, and currently make up a huge percentage of the world's population, things are likely to remain status quo for some time. Those countries are likely to remain overwhelmingly Asian for a while.

But in Europe and America, immigration of non-europeans is rising, while european birth rates are falling well below the birth rates of immigrants. It's conceivable to argue that whites could become the new jews in future generations. Small minorities with pedigrees in certain white collar occupations, which gives them an economic leg up but also puts a target on their back for disgruntled populations who see them as manipulators and usurpers. I mean as America becomes more brown, the politicians will become more brown. Just like in medieval Europe you'd have, for instance, French ruling class, French peasants, and Jewish merchants/bankers as a kind of fulcrum between the two. As was the case in most European countries. This could eventually happen with white people. I mean this is a complete speculation I'm throwing out off the top of my head, but it's an example of the sort of theoretical futures this sort of trend could lead to. The trend itself is already being verified as real by numerous studies, the question is what does it mean going forward? That's what I'm HOPING to open up for discussion.


Also I jsut think it's so insane to think about how we are literally the verge of the end of humanity's evolution. Evolution is some genes surviving while others do not. As healthcare technology and availability continue to expand around the globe, we are ensuring the survival of everyone, and thus no particular traits become selected for in new generations. But while that is happening, people with higher intelligences are utilizing birth control to a much greater degree, ensuring that the balance actually tilts BACKWARD for the next few generations.

I mean if you look at a chart of homo sapien intelligence, it would be a step by step by step by step incline over hundreds of thousands of years, and now..... it's about to teeter, drop back a bit, then just stop.

That's incredible!

But Asian nations are the ones that are westernizing most quickly which might not jive with your theory. In 50 years, China might be a fully developed nation (or close to it). I think it's much less simplistic than a backward trend in human intelligence due to population trends. I think we are currently rising out of a trough in domestic and foreign politics and the future is much less pessimistic than you are projecting.

[Akrazotile]

But Asian nations are the ones that are westernizing most quickly which might not jive with your theory.

China has a one-child policy and Japan is going into population decline crisis. Those are populations that rank toward the top of the global IQ scale. The fewer kids they have, the lower the global average becomes. It's just math. In fact to your point about westernization, even strictly among Azns themsselves the ones who have more opportunity for social mobility (typically correlates with intelligence) will be more likely to put having a family off longer and/or have fewer kids.

Birth control is basically an evolutionary reversal. For human history, smarter people had more children reach adulthood. That's a fact. Birth control is actually creating a complete 180 of that trend. Smarter people are now utilizing birth control and it is the LOWER intellectual individuals and groups having more children reach adulthood. (Again, this is strictly relating to a general pattern, there are still plenty of smart individual people with large famillies)

But It's an overwhelming thing to think about, quite honestly. Indians, Asians, Africans, Caucasians, Native Americans etc. all look different because different features increased survivability in certain areas. Different types of intelligences have evolved the same way. That's all over. We are done evolving. Well, after we go through the intellectual decline being currently produced by demographic upheaval. But after that last step back, I think it's just going to flatline.


God is dead - Nietzsche

Evolution is dead - starface


Amazing!

[Jailblazers7]

I think natural population controls are obviously more likely to decimate the faster growing nations due to population density and relative lack of tech, which could and probably will play a significant role over time. We already saw a small example with Ebola in Africa vs more modern nations. It's an interesting concept but I doubt the trend will play out the way you paint it in this thread.

Just my first instinct tho. You've definitely drawn my interest toward the bigger picture tho.

[Akrazotile]

Another consequence I find is what it means for smart black people.


Think about it. If you're a smart black person, the last thing you should want is for the lesser intelligent black folks swamping the population with their kids, which you and your own kids will inevitably get lumped into generalizations with.

It's natural to feel a sense of unity and mutual support with people you look like, but the reality is black folks with 'western' values should really be wanting to stop lower-class black reproduction more than anyone. Statistically they are simply very poor testers when it comes to european intelligence. If you don't want the ghetto to expand so to speak into the rest of the country, every smart black person should basically be bill cosby is what I'm saying :lol

[Akrazotile]

I think natural population controls are obviously more likely to decimate the faster growing nations due to population density and relative lack of tech, which could and probably will play a significant role over time. We already saw a small example with Ebola in Africa vs more modern nations. It's an interesting concept but I doubt the trend will play out the way you paint it in this thread.

Just my first instinct tho. You've definitely drawn my interest toward the bigger picture tho.


Yes but the diseases themselves don't select for intelligence. Historically, people with higher status in society would be able to avoid or treat them more successfully, but with the humanitarian aid that now goes into combating those things, it is not simply the top of the pyramid that gets the care. Think of how many lives that foreign aid has saved in third world countries the last hundred years, lives which prior to that time simply would have perished.

I mean if we are going to speak strictly in terms of SCIENCE, and set FEELINGS aside, which is what liberals constantly harp on when ranting about the bible, these are legitimate evolutionary principles. For a hundred thousand years, everyone had kids when they had sex, and the smart people's kids survived longer. That's why WE are smarter than prehistoric man. In the last hundred years, the smarter people in the gene pool have all been putting on condoms. Smart people have diminished in their contributions to the global gene pool. That's simply a scientific fact!

I mean honestly, just walk around cities like San Antonio, Los Angeles, wherever. The dudes walking into grocery stores with pants down around their knees, neck tats, buying blunts, these are the dudes that are actually having more kids right now at an age when their smarter peers are pursuing career ambitions. It's a trend all over America, and in fact all over the world. It's real.

[Stempel, HERB]

Yes but the diseases themselves don't select for intelligence. Historically, people with higher status in society would be able to avoid or treat them more successfully, but with the humanitarian aid that now goes into combating those things, it is not simply the top of the pyramid that gets the care. Think of how many lives that foreign aid has saved in third world countries the last hundred years, lives which prior to that time simply would have perished.

I mean if we are going to speak strictly in terms of SCIENCE, and set FEELINGS aside, which is what liberals constantly harp on when ranting about the bible, these are legitimate evolutionary principles. For a hundred thousand years, everyone had kids when they had sex, and the smart people's kids survived longer. That's why WE are smarter than prehistoric man. In the last hundred years, the smarter people in the gene pool have all been putting on condoms. Smart people have diminished in their contributions to the global gene pool. That's simply a scientific fact!

I mean honestly, just walk around cities like San Antonio, Los Angeles, wherever. The dudes walking into grocery stores with pants down around their knees, neck tats, buying blunts, these are the dudes that are actually having more kids right now at an age when their smarter peers are pursuing career ambitions. It's a trend all over America, and in fact all over the world. It's real.

It doesn't work like that. Isn't your father is an elected official? That's some pretty reliable stock according to your thread here. Too bad you are a shitty legacy to leave behind in this world.

You were more fun and interesting before you wanted to be taken seriously. Now you're just another nutjob on the internet.

[Akrazotile]

Hey, wheres deucewallaces? Wheres kevinnyc? Wheres Itsmillertime?


I saw yall posting today. Indulge me with your thoughts on this issue, oh wise and sagacious critical thinkers.....

[Droid101]

Thanks for linking me to videos of the previous generation making fools of themselves! Hold this L for me.
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Wrecked.

Akrazowhatever taking so many L's lately. He's probably the president of the Welsh city of LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLL. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll)

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Africa is going to grow real fast, real soon and show the world its true potential.

[Akrazotile]

Wrecked.

Akrazowhatever taking so many L's lately. He's probably the president of the Welsh city of LLANFAIRPWLLGWYNGYLLGOGERYCHWYRNDROBWLLL. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll)


Youve never contributes a single post to this forum that was intellectually independent. Forget even being accurate, thoughtful, salient, well reasoned etc, youve never even ventured an original opinion at all.

You use liberal rhetoric and culture as a shield behind which to hide, so that your inadequacies are not exposed. Youre basically in the liberal union. Guys like Lebron, Durant, Dirk dont need a union because their skills are just weighed down by it. Theyre already at the top and can make it on their own. Just like I dont need to be banded with a big chunk of other people intellectually to stand on my own two.

Scrubs like you, youre the intellectual Eddy Curry. If you wanna compete in the logic sphere you need a strong support group to prop you up and agree with you even when you make shitty arguments, and to attack anyone who challenges you. You sign yourself over in full to the liberal cause and culture because you HAVE to pick a side. Youre like an ant in a colony. An individual ant is not strong, but as a colony it is. Whereas I am a jaguar, alone I prowl, pursuing what I wish without the bondage of group think and colony dependence.


You have nothing to offer but a bleeting voicebox for hire to mindlessly drown out opposition with, in support of the agenda of those who control you and pretend to be on your sidez. Real tawk. F@g.

[Droid101]

You have nothing to offer but a bleeting voicebox for hire to mindlessly drown out opposition with, in support of the agenda of those who control you and pretend to be on your sidez. Real tawk. F@g.
Have another L.

[Droid101]

Scrubs like you, youre the intellectual Eddy Curry.
You're way past me intellectually, that's true.

I'm an avid enthusiast of astronomy, atomic physics, ecology, philosophy, and all the natural wonderment of the world! I'm not even trying to be arrogant or humorous when I make fun of the idiots that spend all their time on facebook and twitter and instragram and posting selfies. I'm just being completely honest about how I feel in that regard. I don't understand how their simple minds work. I can't compute how an intellect could be so shallow as to function that way. Life is so fascinating in so many ways, it's really remarkable how few people actually care. I suppose those people who spend time on social media are just yet another layer of fascination . They remind me of ants. Dumb and compulsively following the crowd, no apparent depth of consciousness or salience of mind. They're like little robots who live and think within the tiniest of spectra. It's amazing to study them. Sometimes I walk up to them with a magnifying glass, and when they say hey what the hell are you doing, I just say shut up, keep behaving like the natural ignoramus you are while I observe you intently. Usually the interaction doesn't end well, but I persist nonetheless.
How's the bankruptcy treating you?

[rufuspaul]

Whatchu think?

Well I think if you really look at the data it's obvious that


Intelligent posters only.

Oh. Nevermind.

[Akrazotile]

Well I think if you really look at the data it's obvious that



Oh. Nevermind.


Mama, there goes that man....

[Akrazotile]

So where are all the liberals who just love to debate evolution when theyre up against people who rep of the bible??


Dont yall wanna talk evolution any more?

[Akrazotile]

Look how shook evolution has liberals! Who'da thought?? :lol

[Akrazotile]

I invited boozehound to come talk about this, let's see if he accepts.

[I<3NBA]

look, evolution still works. it's just that right now, evolution is selecting not the smartest, but those who could produce more. so trend right now is the population growing more stupid. it'll stop at a point wherein evolution will start selecting for the smartest again. at some point, evolution will start selecting for smarts again.

anyway, all this worry about a backslide is irrelevant as long as we get to that AI singularity.

and if you know, smart people are really smart, they'd try and outbreed the idiots. right? or you know, with an idiotic population, rule the world?

[Akrazotile]

Come on deuce, get in here and pretend to be smart!

[Akrazotile]

look, evolution still works. it's just that right now, evolution is selecting not the smartest, but those who could produce more. so trend right now is the population growing more stupid. it'll stop at a point wherein evolution will start selecting for the smartest again. at some point, evolution will start selecting for smarts again.

anyway, all this worry about a backslide is irrelevant as long as we get to that AI singularity.

and if you know, smart people are really smart, they'd try and outbreed the idiots. right? or you know, with an idiotic population, rule the world?


Omg.... jenius!! :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Akrazotile]

I'd like to invite MavsSuperFan to weigh in on this!