The Harden Trade: Worst Trade Ever?

[SilkkTheShocker]

That's what happens when you have cheap hicks running your franchise. 3 MVP level players on the same team. Yet you trade Harden for magic beans
If there even a decent excuse for this trade anymore on OKC's part?

[imdaman99]

I feel like you've made this thread before. Nah you couldn't have, that's not your style is it? :oldlol:

[lilteapot]

How many times is the same ****ing thread going to get made

[Im Still Ballin]

Who ordered this salty Ether with extra rent free?

[Darius]

Who ordered this salty Ether with extra rent free?

:oldlol: you kids crack me up:applause:

[SugarHill]

How many times is the same ****ing thread going to get made
ISH and sports in general is about beating the horse. You've just noticed?

[SilkkTheShocker]

Of course it's going to get brought up all the time. It killed any chance of OKC winning a title. How often do star players get traded for pennies on the dollar?

[KungFuJoe]

Harden still hasn't done anything in the playoffs. Let's save the "worst trade ever" bullsh*t until he starts bringing home banners for Houston.

Or makes it to the second round.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Wasn't even the Thunder's worst move....


Thunder reject Tyson Chandler; trade off


After examining Chandler's left big toe, Dr. Carlan Yates, Oklahoma City's team physician, determined that the risk of reinjury was too great to give Chandler a clean bill of health. He therefore advised the Thunder to rescind Tuesday's trade that landed them Chandler for Joe Smith, Chris Wilcox and the rights to DeVon Hardin.

Could have been....

Westbrook
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Chandler

[3peated]

Lol>>

[ArbitraryWater]

Harden still hasn't done anything in the playoffs. Let's save the "worst trade ever" bullsh*t until he starts bringing home banners for Houston.

Or makes it to the second round.

So Harden will only be a great player in your eyes when he makes it to the 2nd round? Has your dumbass taken a look at the WC?

[KungFuJoe]

So Harden will only be a great player in your eyes when he makes it to the 2nd round? Has your dumbass taken a look at the WC?

He's a great REGULAR SEASON player. His game doesn't translate well in the playoffs with his reliance on getting to the free throw line.

Why am I even arguing with you? Go post some more pics and jerk off in front of the mirror you fvcking pansy.

[dubnation]

He's a great REGULAR SEASON player. His game doesn't translate well in the playoffs with his reliance on getting to the free throw line.

Why am I even arguing with you? Go post some more pics and jerk off in front of the mirror you fvcking pansy.

:roll:

[Fudge]

He's a great REGULAR SEASON player. His game doesn't translate well in the playoffs with his reliance on getting to the free throw line.

Why am I even arguing with you? Go post some more pics and jerk off in front of the mirror you fvcking pansy.
:lol

rekt.

[ArbitraryWater]

He's a great REGULAR SEASON player. His game doesn't translate well in the playoffs with his reliance on getting to the free throw line.

Why am I even arguing with you? Go post some more pics and jerk off in front of the mirror you fvcking pansy.

Like Harden hasn't raised his game to another level this year..

I've posted 2 pics, and you seem to be incredibly bothered by them :oldlol:

I don't think you're so angry about the post a pic thread, it's just, MY pictures.

I like it, I'll take it as a compliment.. :cheers:

[Budadiiii]

McGary + Adams + trade assets + cap space + cash + butterfly effect

OKC is MUCH better off without Harden and with two legit big men in Adams and McGary.

You can't have three guys who need the ball. Westbrook is MUCH better player than Harden. It's not even close. Harden is only good when he hogs the ball and plays his style of basketball, and he's the worst defender in the league.

OKC has the best young trio of big men in the league. Kanter/McGary/Adams and are filled with nice role players. We haven't even seen what a healthy Thunder team looks like.

The Harden trade was the best thing to ever happen to this franchise. We will be contenders for the next 15 years because of it.

[SouBeachTalents]

McGary + Adams + trade assets + cap space + cash + butterfly effect

OKC is MUCH better off without Harden and with two legit big men in Adams and McGary.

You can't have three guys who need the ball. Westbrook is MUCH better player than Harden. It's not even close. Harden is only good when he hogs the ball and plays his style of basketball, and he's the worst defender in the league.

OKC has the best young trio of big men in the league. Kanter/McGary/Adams and are filled with nice role players. We haven't even seen what a healthy Thunder team looks like.

The Harden trade was the best thing to ever happen to this franchise. We will be contenders for the next 15 years because of it.

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[Heavincent]

Wasn't even the Thunder's worst move....



Could have been....

Westbrook
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Chandler

Huh? Never heard that.

That's like...GOAT team potential. 73-9.

[RRR3]

他是一個偉大的常規賽的球員。他的比賽並不在他的依賴越來越走上罰球線的季后賽很好的轉化。
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Fixed.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Wasn't even the Thunder's worst move....



Could have been....

Westbrook
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Chandler

:biggums: :wtf: :eek: :wtf: :biggums:

:facepalm

[SwishSquared]

They basically got Lamb, 1 year of Kevin Martin, and the draft picks that became Adams & McGary out of the trade. Lamb has been an end of rotation type guy mostly, Martin had 1 good RS before underwhelming in the playoffs (imo), and Adams has been solid thus far. I liked McGary going into the draft and looks like he'll be a useful energy big off the bench, as long as he stays healthy.

So, they basically traded a top 5 player & MVP candidate for a starting C and a backup PF/C on cheap rookie deals. Martin & Lamb were kinda the filler of that trade, in hindsight. Those two bigs are the saving grace of that deal- if they blew those picks, or didn't even get them in the trade, this would a catastrophically bad trade.

Even then, how many people would/wouldn't trade a young starting C, young energy bench big, 15mpg role player, and expiring 6th man for an MVP talent? Not to mention, Harden was actually great against LAL and SAS en route to that Finals appearance. He was bad once they got there, but they don't beat the Spurs without him. He's underwhelmed in Houston, but how many people expected him to out-duel Durant in 2013? He deserves plenty of flack for last year vs. Portland, though.

I know Tyson Chandler had his share of health problems back then, but the doctor that recommended rescinding that trade when they weren't giving up much did kinda set them back. Given how many games he missed, they likely still get Harden in the draft. Would also have Jeff Green as a 6th man. Considering how the team broke up, it's likely they wouldn't have kept all 6 of those guys, but talk about assembling talent...

[Milbuck]

He's a great REGULAR SEASON player. His game doesn't translate well in the playoffs with his reliance on getting to the free throw line.

Why am I even arguing with you? Go post some more pics and jerk off in front of the mirror you fvcking pansy.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Fudge]

McGary + Adams + trade assets + cap space + cash + butterfly effect

OKC is MUCH better off without Harden and with two legit big men in Adams and McGary.

You can't have three guys who need the ball. Westbrook is MUCH better player than Harden. It's not even close. Harden is only good when he hogs the ball and plays his style of basketball, and he's the worst defender in the league.

OKC has the best young trio of big men in the league. Kanter/McGary/Adams and are filled with nice role players. We haven't even seen what a healthy Thunder team looks like.

The Harden trade was the best thing to ever happen to this franchise. We will be contenders for the next 15 years because of it.
:rockon: :banana: :pimp:

[Millslapped]

Bump.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Wasn't even the Thunder's worst move....



Could have been....

Westbrook
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Chandler
:biggums:

That cheap ownership. Couldn't see the forrest through the trees. Poor Seattle / Oklahoma fans.

[YouGotServed]

They could have had Harden + Chandler

:roll: Cheapskate clowns didn't want to pay. Their shitty management is LITERALLY costing them a championship. Haven't won more than 2 conference finals games since the Harden trade.

:oldlol:

[Fudge]

Contenders for the next 15 years. Y'all salty or nah? :oldlol:

[Optimus Prime]

It ranks up there as one of the the worst ever. Think of what Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka could have done if Clay Bennett wasn't an awful owner.

Oh well...woulda, coulda, shoulda!

:kobe:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Miami super friends had to collude to get their big three. OKC drafted all theirs in house, 3x MVP caliber players ... then said forget it and ditched one of them for a bag of peanuts w/ a side of pocket lint just as he was hitting his prime because of stinginess. Jesus.

[El Kabong]

That's what happens when you have cheap hicks running your franchise. 3 MVP level players on the same team. Yet you trade Harden for magic beans
If there even a decent excuse for this trade anymore on OKC's part?
Harden never would have been an MVP level player if he was playing behind Durant and Westbrook.

[Horde of Temujin]

How many times is the same ****ing thread going to get made

The stupidity and magnitude of the trade warrants it.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

The stupidity and magnitude of the trade warrants it.
Package A - A great offensive wing who can't play D

Package B - A big who can rebound+defend and a high potential wing.

Which of the 2 above packages would you rather have? That doesn't even include the 1-year rental of KMart.

Ppl keep ripping on the trade w/o even acknowledging OKC could've lost Harden for nothing. :facepalm

Adams is a beast and has the potential to be an All-Star - something more valuable as a big than a wing.

Lamb can be a beast and has high potential, but Brooks doesn't know how to use all player-types and Lamb has been lost in limbo.

[Captain Clutch]

Lamb can be a beast and has high potential, but Brooks doesn't know how to use all player-types and Lamb has been lost in limbo.

Lambo lost in limbo. :pimp:

[TrueBlue89]

He's a great REGULAR SEASON player. His game doesn't translate well in the playoffs with his reliance on getting to the free throw line.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[YouGotServed]

He's a great REGULAR SEASON player. His game doesn't translate well in the playoffs with his reliance on getting to the free throw line.

:roll: :roll: :roll: Lin stan, hold this L.

[Rooster]

:biggums: :wtf: :eek: :wtf: :biggums:

:facepalm

He got it right. Yes Oklahoma could have easily have those players at one time but I dunno about keeping them all for awhile. The luxury tax is a given fact but winning needs a stroke of luck. That's the reason Dallas did not take the risk because the risk outweighs the price. A lot of times it all boils down to business. I remember Lakers did not pick up Horry option because they did not want to pay another 5 million in doing so and the Lakers have deep pocket.

[Jameerthefear]

Package A - A great offensive wing who can't play D

Package B - A big who can rebound+defend and a high potential wing.

Which of the 2 above packages would you rather have? That doesn't even include the 1-year rental of KMart.

Ppl keep ripping on the trade w/o even acknowledging OKC could've lost Harden for nothing. :facepalm

Adams is a beast and has the potential to be an All-Star - something more valuable as a big than a wing.

Lamb can be a beast and has high potential, but Brooks doesn't know how to use all player-types and Lamb has been lost in limbo.
:roll: :roll:

[BigBoss]

OP thinks basketball is played with 2 balls.

[HurricaneKid]

Ppl keep ripping on the trade w/o even acknowledging OKC could've lost Harden for nothing. :facepalm


No. They couldn't. Harden just wouldn't sign the 12M/ offer. He would have immediately gotten a 4/58M deal they could have matched as he was a RFA

Think about that, he just wanted 14M/. And they sent him away instead. Thats not even Chandler Parsons money. His 5 yr deal might be the best contract in the NBA.

[SilkkTheShocker]

LOL at the poster that said Harden could have left for nothing :oldlol: :oldlol::oldlol:

[fragokota]

It's one thing not to have harden in your team and trying to trade for him while you already got KD & Westbrook and a totally different making a decision not to keep him and trade him away for peanuts. Sure i understand that he wouldn't be the same player that he is now but he had actually shown signs of greatness playing for them. It did look like a bad decision back then, it seems terrible right now.

[buddha]

the move was to trade Westbrook for Howard. I've said it 100x. OKC would have 3 peated by now if they traded Westbrook for Howard.

Reggie Jackson
James Harden
Kevin Durant
Serge Ibaka
Dwight Howard

is a scary good team might even get close to 70 wins if everyone stayed healthy.

[JerrySeinfeld]

the move was to trade Westbrook for Howard. I've said it 100x. OKC would have 3 peated by now if they traded Westbrook for Howard.

Reggie Jackson
James Harden
Kevin Durant
Serge Ibaka
Dwight Howard

is a scary good team might even get close to 70 wins if everyone stayed healthy.

They'd need a different point guard if they did that. Someone who doesn't have the ego Jackson does.

[Springsteen]

the move was to trade Westbrook for Howard. I've said it 100x. OKC would have 3 peated by now if they traded Westbrook for Howard.

Reggie Jackson
James Harden
Kevin Durant
Serge Ibaka
Dwight Howard

is a scary good team might even get close to 70 wins if everyone stayed healthy.

That team sounds unstoppable on paper.

On paper.

[DMAVS41]

the move was to trade Westbrook for Howard. I've said it 100x. OKC would have 3 peated by now if they traded Westbrook for Howard.

Reggie Jackson
James Harden
Kevin Durant
Serge Ibaka
Dwight Howard

is a scary good team might even get close to 70 wins if everyone stayed healthy.

I said that at the time as well.

I still just don't see it as a bad trade at all. I see it as Presti ****ed up after the trade a couple times and they've had bad injury luck.

There are a few things that need to be mentioned.

1. The best Thunder team to date was the 13 Thunder before the WB injury. They improved on both sides of the ball over the 12 team and WB/Durant reached new levels.

2. WB and Harden were already showing chemistry issues and I think it is very obvious those issues would have grown over time. I say this because it's almost a certainty that one of them would have wanted out soon.

3. The Thunder could have quite easily won the title last year if Presti didn't sit on Fisher/Butler/Thabo at the 2 guard position. They could have made a move for Afflalo or Meeks and just would have had the best team in the league. Win for sure? Of course not, but nobody would have had a better team than them with an upgrade at the 2 guard position.

4. Presti did a good job with this roster this year. Just not gonna win when Durant/Ibaka go down with injuries.

Bad luck and Presti wetting the bed in 14 are the truth of what happened in my opinion.

[navy]

My problem with the trade is that they traded him too early. How many teams have won rings looking long term and not short term? You gotta sign the players you got and stop being cheap bastards. The Thunder should have been all in instead of half in. Trading Harden before the season means that you arent all in. It means that you are thinking of other things not winning.

You cant plan for injuries. Which is why it's very possible that OKC lost their window. Which would be shame. But the 2013 Thunder eventually would have inserted Harden into the starting lineup had Westbrook gone down. What was the logic for not keeping Harden that year and getting fleeced by Houston?

You can do everything in your power to make sure that your team is as stacked as possible. Trade Harden when he reaches free agency. Not when you are looking to reach your second straight Finals.

[Haymaker]

Wasn't even the Thunder's worst move....



Could have been....

Westbrook
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Chandler

Ibaka was one of the major hurdles to re-sign Harden. If Presti had resigned Harden first then offered Ibaka less money, things would've been easier.

[DMAVS41]

My problem with the trade is that they traded him too early. How many teams have won rings looking long term and not short term? You gotta sign the players you got and stop being cheap bastards. The Thunder should have been all in instead of half in. Trading Harden before the season means that you arent all in. It means that you are thinking of other things not winning.

You cant plan for injuries. Which is why it's very possible that OKC lost their window. Which would be shame. But the 2013 Thunder eventually would have inserted Harden into the starting lineup had Westbrook gone down. What was the logic for not keeping Harden that year and getting fleeced by Houston?

You can do everything in your power to make sure that your team is as stacked as possible. Trade Harden when he reaches free agency. Not when you are looking to reach your second straight Finals.

the logic was get rid of the coming chemistry problems before the season starts so you can start with the team you'll end up having in the playoffs while addressing a need and getting younger.

Again, the 13 Thunder were better than the 12 Thunder. They were the title favorites when healthy.

Now, the interesting thing that comes into play is 14. If Harden is on that team...they win it all pretty easily in my opinion. Not the lock of the century to beat the Spurs and Heat, but close.

But would they have made it all the way to 14 with WB vs Harden vs Durant all fighting over the ball while Harden isn't helping, and likely hurting, the defense?

What I can admit is that if they had Harden in 14 and they are healthy...they win it.

We could play the what if game on injuries and all that, but you just never know. With these injuries...it's just so hard because outside of the 14 Presti epic failure...the teams in 13 and 15 looked poised to dominate people if healthy.