Has Kevin Love gotten better or worse playing with LeBron James?

[hawkfan]

Discuss.

[Harison]

Better question is, has any star got better playing with Lebron?

[rlsmooth775]

Better question is, has any star got better playing with Lebron?

Kyrie

[nba_55]

Better question is, has any star got better playing with Lebron?

Kyrie

[305Baller]

worse.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Better question is, has any star got better playing with Lebron?
Kyrie and Bosh

Wade's efficiency peaked playing with LeBron, and so did his ring count

Also, Mozgov, Smith, Thompson, and Shump are all having great years w/ LeBron

[Eric Cartman]

Same.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Same.
I'd say his defense has gotten better though.

[Eric Cartman]

I'd say his defense has gotten better though.

Nah

[Optimus Prime]

LeBron Ball is not kind to other stars.

:kobe:

[nba_55]

LeBron Ball is not kind to other stars.

:kobe:

kyrie

[Optimus Prime]

Kyrie's stats are basically the same as the last two years when LeBron wasn't there.

Try again, troll.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6442/kyrie-irving

:kobe:

Edit: The last TWO years actually.

[Fudge]

Clearly worse. Same thing happened with Wade and Bosh.

Kyrie's been the same tho.

[TheMarkMadsen]

kyrie

The same Kyrie who was fiba MVP, asg MVP, while being called mr 4th quarter and being touted as one of the best point guards in the league and current superstar before ever playing with Lebron.

The same Kyrie who had his best game of the year without Lebron while dropping 55 points.

[Prime_Shaq]

I think just the same player in a different role. If anything only his mindset has changed like as he has to exert less energy on offense, he has more to give on the defensive end. However, we can't only credit this to LeBron. Kyrie and JR has also done their part in the offense during their hot stretch and Mozgov has been an excellent rim protector.

[ShawkFactory]

Kyrie is clearly playing the best and most motivated ball of his career.

And no, Kevin Love hasn't gotten worse upon playing with Lebron :facepalm

[Harison]

Kyrie
Lets see:

Kyrie 2014-15: 21.7/3.3/5.2 @46.4 FG%

Kyrie (sophomore): 22.5/3.7/5.9 @ 45.2 FG%

Even as sophomore Kyrie was better than with Lebron now.

Lets see per36:

Kyrie 2014-15: 20.9/3.1/5.0 @ 46.4 FG%

Kyrie (rookie): 21.8/4.4/6.4 @ 46.9 FG%

Kyrie as a 19 yrs rookie was also better than playing alongside Lebron :lol Now considering Kyrie is unanimous answer who got "better", lets not forget how Wade, Bosh and Love got "better" too :confusedshrug:

[ShawkFactory]

Lets see:

Kyrie 2014-15: 21.7/3.3/5.2 @46.4 FG%

Kyrie (sophomore): 22.5/3.7/5.9 @ 45.2 FG%

Even as sophomore Kyrie was better than with Lebron now.

Lets see per36:

Kyrie 2014-15: 20.9/3.1/5.0 @ 46.4 FG%

Kyrie (rookie): 21.8/4.4/6.4 @ 46.9 FG%

Kyrie as a 19 yrs rookie was also better than playing alongside Lebron :lol Now considering Kyrie is unanimous answer who got "better", lets not forget how Wade, Bosh and Love got "better" too :confusedshrug:
You don't know anything about basketball :roll:

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Kyrie and Bosh

Wade's efficiency peaked playing with LeBron, and so did his ring count

Also, Mozgov, Smith, Thompson, and Shump are all having great years w/ LeBron
Eh....for Mozgov, Shump and Smith the sample size is pretty small.

Kyrie's per-36 numbers this year are pretty much identical to his first 3 years in the league. Hes like the "groundhog day" of basketball players.

Wades TS% was .573 in his 4 years playing with LeBron, and .566 from 2004-2005 to 2009-2010. So, that's technically true....but that's to be expected, given that his usage was way lower.

Bosh's stats were decidedly better in Toronto, where he was an all-NBA guy.

Doesn't mean LeBron doesn't make guys better but I disagree with the examples you listed. IMO he made Mo Williams, Iggy, Chalmers, Battier (particularly in the finals), countless other long-range shooters, and yes Thompson better. He didn't make Bosh or Wade WORSE mind you, but i REALLY fail to see how he made them better. For Kyrie there's just no angle that would support that position -- hes pretty much the exact same player, with the defenders sagging off him SLIGHTLY because of LeBrons presence. But his production this year is indistinguishable from years prior.

mind you i *do* believe LBJ makes more guys than not better players. The only fella I can think of that LeBron seemed to make noticeably worse was Waiters. He went from having solid catch-and-shoot numbers to being a bum in that department. To pour salt on the wound, LeBron didn't hide the fact that he wasn't elated to be playing with him. And Love. But with Love I'll *still* say its too early. He wasn't exactly a force to be reckoned with when LeBron was out, either. We'll see how he is come playoff time.