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Lebron23
02-28-2015, 08:40 PM
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London (CNN)Mohammed Emwazi: The world knows him better as "Jihadi John," the man whose masked face and British accented-taunts have featured in a series of brutal ISIS execution videos.

But many of those who grew up with him have told the UK media that remember Emwazi altogether differently: as the typical "boy next door," a popular kid who loved football, pop music and The Simpsons.

A day after the long-standing mystery behind Jihadi John's identity was solved, clues to his past have begun to emerge -- but far from showing him as a violent extremist, they paint a picture of an ordinary child and teenager growing up in the British capital.

Emwazi was born in Kuwait in 1988, and moved to the UK with his parents, Jasem and Ghaneya, and sister at the age of six, according to CAGE, an advocacy group for those affected by terrorism investigations.

The family settled down in west London; Emwazi's father is reported to have worked as a taxi driver, while his mother stayed at home to look after Emwazi and his siblings.

He is reported to have attended St Mary Magdalene Church of England Primary School, in London's Maida Vale; a photograph published on the front pages of several British newspapers showed a smiling young boy in the school's scarlet sweater uniform, surrounded by his classmates and teacher -- a far cry from the black-clad jihadi infamous around the world.

When contacted by CNN, the school's headteacher refused to comment. On its website, the school -- whose motto is "believe, achieve and succeed together" -- proudly proclaims: "We are a very inclusive, multicultural and diverse school, where many languages and religions reside happily under one roof."
A TV camera points at the London home where ISIS militant Mohammed Emwazi, known as Jihadi John, is believed to have lived.
A TV camera points at the London home where ISIS militant Mohammed Emwazi, known as Jihadi John, is believed to have lived.
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A former classmate there told the Daily Mail newspaper that Emwazi was sporty and popular, but had initially struggled with English: "He could only say a few words at first, like his name and where he was from.

"He played football every lunchtime and at the after-school football club. Through football, he learned different words and expressions."

The paper reported that, writing in a class yearbook aged 10, Emwazi told of his love for pop group S Club 7, The Simpsons, the shoot-'em-up computer game Duke Nukem and -- like so many other British children -- listed his favourite food as chips.

Another friend from St Mary Magdalene told radio station LBC: "I used to go with him to that primary school ... I do remember him very well ... I was a year younger than him and he treated me as someone he used to teach."

The man, who was identified only as Mohammed, said the pair's mothers had been "very good friends" until three years ago when rumors began to circulate about Emwazi's terror links. "His mum used to sell gold and stuff like that to the local community."

Mohammed and another former classmate both said they have vivid memories of a painful injury sustained by the youngster when he was in the final year of primary school.

"In the playground ... He was just about to get into a fight and he was running away from someone ... another guy tried to block off his path. He had nowhere to go and he basically ran into the goalposts, hit his head onto a metal goalpost and fell to the floor," Mohammed told LBC, adding that his friend missed two weeks of classes and "he was not the same, ever since that brain injury."

Londoner Matt Seton wrote on Twitter that he went to school with Emwazi: "He was a 12 year old kid ... I remember one [time] we were playing football and he smashed his head on the goalpost. Now he kills people for a living."
Reuters: 'Jihadi John' identified

Reuters: 'Jihadi John' identified 03:30
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After leaving St Mary Magdalene, Emwazi is believed to have moved on to the Quintin Kynaston Academy in neighboring St. John's Wood, whose alumni include singers Tulisa Contostavolos and Shola Ama; his sister later became a prefect there.

One of his classmates -- speaking on condition of anonymity -- told the Daily Telegraph newspaper he was a "typical north-west London boy."

"He seemed like a nice guy ... a down-to-earth person and humble. He liked football and he was friends with everyone. All the Indian boys, all the Pakistani boys, people from different religions, he spoke to everyone."

A neighbor of the Emwazi family told CNN he was a "polite young man."

A former teacher told Britain's Channel 4 News that Emwazi was "a diligent hardworking lovely young man. Responsible, polite, quiet. He was everything that you'd want a student to be.

"He was somebody who would always seek the correct way of handling something. He did things in the right way," she insisted. "There was never any indication of any violence at all."

The unidentified educator said her ex-pupil "was religious ... and I think as he got older he did become more devout. He would go to the mosque on Fridays and pray but a lot of our kids did that."

Emwazi apparently did well enough at the school to go on to Westminster University in London; he completed a degree in 2009.

Asim Qureshi, research director of CAGE, insists that the Mohammed Emwazi he knew was "very kind, extremely gentle, [a] humble individual, who didn't have any self-importance about himself."

Intelligence services and terrorism experts are now piecing together just how he went from that to the infamous "bogeyman" of ISIS -- something which continues to puzzle many of those who knew him as a boy.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/27/europe/jihadi-john-mohammed-emwazi-childhood/

http://news.sky.com/story/1435642/first-photo-of-jihadi-john-as-adult-revealed

LJJ
02-28-2015, 08:55 PM
Grew up in a well off family. Went to school and university, became a well educated man. Popular in school, easy to get jobs, liberal values at first. Just a regular, western boy completely corrupted by Islam.

None of his family got bombed. None of his relatives or friends were killed. He wasn't oppressed, he had every opportunity in the world to be whoever he wanted to be. Stop the silly, ridiculous narrative that Islamic terrorism is somehow caused by western oppression or by brutal dictators in the ME. It's a probably directly tied to and directly born from Islam. That's why everywhere in the world where Islam is part of the agenda Islamic terrorism exists.

gigantes
02-28-2015, 09:09 PM
does it say in that particular article that MI5 tried to recruit him at one point and when he turned them down, apparently prevented him from traveling abroad?


sure, sometimes ppl become slaves to dumbass ideology... but sometimes ppl get resentful when their rights get compromised... sometimes they can snap. if it wasn't jihadi john it would have been jihadi george.

govts gotta struggle to walk the finest of lines IMO. between protecting the state, but not adding petrol to a fire.

tomtucker
02-28-2015, 09:19 PM
Grew up in a well off family. Went to school and university, became a well educated man. Popular in school, easy to get jobs, liberal values at first. Just a regular, western boy completely corrupted by Islam.

None of his family got bombed. None of his relatives or friends were killed. He wasn't oppressed, he had every opportunity in the world to be whoever he wanted to be. Stop the silly, ridiculous narrative that Islamic terrorism is somehow caused by western oppression or by brutal dictators in the ME. It's a probably directly tied to and directly born from Islam. That's why everywhere in the world where Islam is part of the agenda Islamic terrorism exists.
:applause:

Akrazotile
02-28-2015, 09:26 PM
Grew up in a well off family. Went to school and university, became a well educated man. Popular in school, easy to get jobs, liberal values at first. Just a regular, western boy completely corrupted by Islam.

None of his family got bombed. None of his relatives or friends were killed. He wasn't oppressed, he had every opportunity in the world to be whoever he wanted to be. Stop the silly, ridiculous narrative that Islamic terrorism is somehow caused by western oppression or by brutal dictators in the ME. It's a probably directly tied to and directly born from Islam. That's why everywhere in the world where Islam is part of the agenda Islamic terrorism exists.


We live in a monkey-see, monkey-do world. Not just in the middle east. Here in the west, and EVERYWHERE.

If you create groups, the vast majority of people will desperately try to fit their way into one of them. They're not just gonna be like "Well, I'm just gonna be myself," oh no. They panic and immediately run toward one of them. And this can be done soooo easily via the media, and it IS done to this day.

With the resources America has? We could EASILY pay off Middle Eastern/Muslim leaders and media to feed their base sheeple a completely different narrative of peace and diplomacy. And the masses would follow it. The masses will go where they're herded, they are basically IDENTICAL HUMAN EQUIVALENTS of sheep.

But our leaders don't want peace in the middle east and the dissolution of terror. That's what drives the justification to fund the military-industrial complex. It's what keeps eyeballs off the personal business dealings of elite interests and glued to the external threats. Dumb, dirt-poor, sword-waving, maniacally screaming Muslims aren't thinking profoundly and analytically about the political injustice of American this or that. They see that there is a social group they're expected to be a part of, so they're doing everythign they can to show everyone they belong and then some. Western power interests THRIVE off this shit. Especially because the average dummy in the west, though of a generally more peaceful temperament, is still every bit the easily manipulated sheep they are. And the two sides just simply get pit against each other via the narrative presented by the media and government officials, and that's what causes the world to keep on a-turnin.


Dudes think they're these uber-progressive, sophisticated intellectuals, but that's just a group they're trying to fit into in order to REFLECT that image. They repeat the talking points they're given. They have the interests they're expected to. They pay their dues by mindlessly towing the party line of supporting tolerance (only of minorities tho), evolution (except when it might hurt a feeling), opposing war and domestic espionage (except when proposed by democrats) and in exchange they get to feel cooler and smarter than those people in the red jerseys. Lmfao those dudes are not smart AT ALL. They're just posing, posturing sheep who bought the liberal elitist starter pack and wear it clumsily in order to be part of the group. Fukkin tardos. Real tawx. Word.

knickballer
02-28-2015, 09:34 PM
does it say in that particular article that MI5 tried to recruit him at one point and when he turned them down, apparently prevented him from traveling abroad?


sure, sometimes ppl become slaves to dumbass ideology... but sometimes ppl get resentful when their rights get compromised... sometimes they can snap. if it wasn't jihadi john it would have been jihadi george.

govts gotta struggle to walk the finest of lines IMO. between protecting the state, but not adding petrol to a fire.


So if he believes the secret police is following him the best way to counter that is to be a jihadist and to brutally behead innocent people with his bare hands? OKAY..

Most likely this guy was an amateur jihadist before the M15 starting spying on him and once they figured it was getting serious then they started harassing him.

People and communities need to start taking responsibilities and stop playing the "victim" card. It's easy to dish out the blame but hard to accept responsibility and accept that there's a problem.

SCdac
02-28-2015, 09:37 PM
what, he wasn't from a poor family oppressed by west?? that's so crazy. I could have sworn all these guys were merely jobless victims judging by our administrations spokespeople... Seriously though, these individuals are making a conscious choice, and Mohammed Emwazi in all likely hood if ever visited a hospital would be a medically diagnosed, deranged, psychopath. In fact, there's reports he attended anger management as an adolescent, which probably positively correlates to some degree but I'm not sure. The point is, these are not simply "dogs beaten into a corner and fighting back", that implies these folks aren't even human/have no responsibility for their own actions. This guy bought into, and agreed with, a hateful ideology and many more are doing the same on their own accord.

SCdac
02-28-2015, 09:41 PM
btw the apparent shock about him being just the "boy from next door" is dumb.. it reminds me of virtually every episode of forensic files or law and order or some shit.. Nobody ever knows when they live next to a serial killer! Because they all appear to be nice people. Hell didn't that sick guy who kidnapped those 3 girls in cleveland.. attend the vigil for them?? In other words, people shouldn't be so surprised terrorists/killers can be "normal people" too

Akrazotile
02-28-2015, 09:43 PM
The fact that people are actually analyzing this random goober who has basically become a pop-celebrity because the media gave him an edgy name and an unusual backstory proves that the system works exactly as it's designed, and O'Brien was correct in 1984 when he said the proles will NEVER rise up. They're just not wired to. It's not in the average human chimp's DNA. They only deal with concepts that are directly handed to them in simple form. Celebrity gossip, athlete scandals, terrorist sensationalism, political talking points. They don't actually look at abstract concepts with their own eyes and brain.

MUTHER****ER I JUST TOLD YOU FOCUSING ON JIHADI JOHN IS EXACTLY THE WAY THEYRE COUNTING ON YOU TO BE A RETARD.

"Small minds discuss people. Decent minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas."

****ing unbelievable. Long live Jihadi John. I'm sure they'll talk about him on The View tomorrow along with Justin Bieber's latest feud and a story about someone who's cat fell off a table in a funny way and it became a viral video overnight!

Retarded world.

BurningHammer
02-28-2015, 09:52 PM
Poor Pittsburgh Pirates.

gigantes
02-28-2015, 10:03 PM
So if he believes the secret police is following him the best way to counter that is to be a jihadist and to brutally behead innocent people with his bare hands? OKAY..
who knows what runs through peoples' heads? if that's what was running through his head then you can be sure that somehow it made sense to him.

or if you're saying that such logic seems reasonable to me, then i guess reading comprehension is not your friend.



Most likely this guy was an amateur jihadist before the M15 starting spying on him and once they figured it was getting serious then they started harassing him.
most likely NOT from what i gathered from his backstory.

he sounded like a pretty regular guy who got interested in social justice... then somewhere along the line, got really passionate / outraged by stuff in the middle east... his peoples, i guess.

JtotheIzzo
02-28-2015, 10:24 PM
I think he used to post here as 'Roxy'. Had a bunch of P hats and watched Full House a lot.

The Hawker episode was the best Full House one:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/p-hats.jpg

imdaman99
02-28-2015, 10:28 PM
Media makes this guy a celebrity, and then Islamophobes wonder why more and more are joining that cult? Ok than, let's blame Islam :hammerhead:

SugarHill
02-28-2015, 10:32 PM
Jihadi John is such a GOAT name. Sorry akrazocrocodile

gts
02-28-2015, 10:32 PM
I think he used to post here as 'Roxy'. Had a bunch of P hats and watched Full House a lot.

The Hawker episode was the best Full House one:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/p-hats.jpg

lol I remember that thread

Dresta
03-01-2015, 10:30 AM
btw the apparent shock about him being just the "boy from next door" is dumb.. it reminds me of virtually every episode of forensic files or law and order or some shit.. Nobody ever knows when they live next to a serial killer! Because they all appear to be nice people. Hell didn't that sick guy who kidnapped those 3 girls in cleveland.. attend the vigil for them?? In other words, people shouldn't be so surprised terrorists/killers can be "normal people" too
meh.. people in general completely refuse to admit even to themselves that most, if not all, human beings have a penchant for cruelty and sadism. It is part of our nature regardless of how much people try to deny it, and to instead pretend human beings are fluffy innocent bunnies before something bad corrupts them.

That's how the faint-of-heart reach positions such as 'all the muslims fighting in Syria have been pushed beyond breaking point by Western atrocities/poverty/whatever.'

This is the ultimate fatuity and requires a complete misreading of all of human history. And, in the end, it's really nothing more than puerile romanticising a la Rousseau.

JEFFERSON MONEY
03-01-2015, 09:36 PM
OK HOW TEH FVCK did i have the exact same thoughts as starface Friday when I saw that on the newspaper.

Patrick Chewing
03-01-2015, 11:54 PM
Media makes this guy a celebrity, and then Islamophobes wonder why more and more are joining that cult? Ok than, let's blame Islam :hammerhead:


So what you're saying is that the only way this guy could've become a celebrity is by becoming Jihadi John??

I think what the media did here is expose this rat for who he is. Luckily for him, he's committing these atrocities overseas, cause he'd be dead in 24 hours here in the Wild, Wild, West of America.

GOBB
03-01-2015, 11:56 PM
I think he used to post here as 'Roxy'. Had a bunch of P hats and watched Full House a lot.

The Hawker episode was the best Full House one:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s146/darkharbour/p-hats.jpg

:roll: look at hawker on tv.

RedBlackAttack
07-26-2015, 04:59 PM
Emwazi is said to be have been very wary of the possibility of US special forces hunting him down for his role in the killings of Americans and Britons, as well as Japanese nationals Haruna Yukawa and Kenji Goto.

http://i62.tinypic.com/mblcw6.jpg

LJJ
07-26-2015, 05:09 PM
"reportedly, allegedly", it sounds like a bunch of BS to me and maybe a good bit of old-fashioned propaganda. "See? Even the most hardcore European jihadi is a coward and has to leave Syria.".

As far as we know, Islamic State has a very strong hierarchy and command structure and in no way "Jihadi John" would be in danger of becoming the new beheading show-piece just for following commands of his superiors, they have plenty of foreign aid-workers and journalists for that purpose.
Besides, people who think this guy fears being assassinated or dying need to read up on terrorists, you are not going to be showcasing yourself beheading innocent folk if you are afraid to die. Secondly, if it's assassination/capture he fears, then he's increasing that risk drastically by leaving Islamic State and joining more fringe Islamist groups.

Ten bucks on this being Ducktales.

9erempiree
07-26-2015, 05:09 PM
Hilarious that this piece of shit is running from the same people he is siding against.

I pray he is captured by his own kind and suffer the same fate as his victims and that is getting beheaded. At this point, it is better to be captured by the USA.

USA saving terrorists' lives.

Bandito
07-26-2015, 09:07 PM
OK HOW TEH FVCK did i have the exact same thoughts as starface Friday when I saw that on the newspaper.
Alts think alike:lol


Jk

IcanzIIravor
07-26-2015, 11:29 PM
Grew up in a well off family. Went to school and university, became a well educated man. Popular in school, easy to get jobs, liberal values at first. Just a regular, western boy completely corrupted by Islam.

None of his family got bombed. None of his relatives or friends were killed. He wasn't oppressed, he had every opportunity in the world to be whoever he wanted to be. Stop the silly, ridiculous narrative that Islamic terrorism is somehow caused by western oppression or by brutal dictators in the ME. It's a probably directly tied to and directly born from Islam. That's why everywhere in the world where Islam is part of the agenda Islamic terrorism exists.

He wouldn't be the first well off person to get seduced by the teachings of crazy people. It is well known, at least in the intel community, that many of the current crop of jihadist are from well-to-do backgrounds and many have degrees. I think there are a host of issues as to why these people are sucked into extremist Islamic ideologies. Part of it is through great propaganda that has a hint of truth to it. The west is propping up many of these governments in the Middle East. The problem is these guys aren't thinking beyond that and recognizing that the people they are aiding will be even worse overlords. The narrative that these people are poor and oppressed may be somewhat accurate for traditional terror groups like the ones fighting Israel (though the people at the top are filthy rich via corruption), but it can't apply for the most part to ISIS none homegrown troops or AQ.

Dresta
12-21-2015, 05:58 AM
Well, he's a scorchmark now apparently. Seems the earlier stories reported were false if he was taken out in Raqqa.

NumberSix
12-21-2015, 06:29 AM
Is he a black?