View Full Version : Video of Assassination of Russian opposition leader.
KevinNYC
03-01-2015, 05:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqFdS332BQg#t=44
A video has been released that is said to show the moment that Boris Nemtsov was killed (http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-update-february-28-2015/#7195). The video was from a weather camera that showed the bridge 24/7.
The actual shooting seems to take place behind a salt spreader type truck. It
From this video we see:
1. The murderer waited for Nemtsov on the bridge. He is the one to make the shots.
2. His work was high-quality - the snow-cleaning machine blocked him from the camera.
3. Immediately after the shots were fine, a car drove up to him, and the murderer got into it. The color of the car is not white (this color has been mentioned in recent days).
4. The biggest question - two men who soon after the murder of Nemtsov ran from the bridge down the steps under the bridge, and when the first police car arrived (after about 7-8 minutes), they climbed the stairs to the site of the murder.
Pryanikov's reading of the video was echoed in the New York Times:
A snowplow blocked the scene. But the video, which has not been independently verified, appears to show the shooter was hiding on a stairway on Moskvoretsky Bridge waiting for Mr. Nemtsov and Ms. Duritskaya to pass. Later, the figure of the supposed shooter runs to a getaway car that pulls up on the bridge.
KevinNYC
03-01-2015, 05:17 AM
An analysis (http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/2015/02/analyzing-cctv-footage-that-seemed-to.html)
Conclusion
The video seems to be real, because the location EXACTLY fits the know murder spot. It does not seem likely that such a video could have been prepared in advance.
The murder EXACTLY takes place when the cleaning car passes by. It is absolutely unclear where the assassin come from. Nobody can be seen walking towards or behind Nemtsov and his companion. Neither can somebody be seen walking to that specific spot to wait for them.
Therefor it seems very likely that the cleaning car has something to do with it and the assassin could have traveled with the car.
Since Nemtsov was shot from behind and the cleaning car already catched up with them when the murder took place, it does not seem likely that the assassin traveled on the passenger seat next to the driver. He had to open and close the door and that may have drawn their attention. It seems likely that he had traveled on the back of the car. He could easily jump on and off and could also estimate if there were other people to close to them to do the operation at all at that moment.
Using a cleaning car gives a lot of advantage: you can drive slowly, draw no attention, wait if necessary and thus pick exactly the right moment (with no other people nearby).
It does seem like the assassin had been following the couple already when he jumped on the car. They may have crossed the road where the cleaning car was waiting. After seeing them pass by, it started entering the bridge. When they passes the assassin, he jumped on. In this way they could be sure that they had the right person AND they could pick the right moment without running to catch them up.
All the flee car had to do was to wait until the cleaning car got on the bridge, see the hit man jumped on and then get to follow from a distance to slowly catch up.
It all does look like a REALLY WELL orchestrated operation.
Totally weird is that there is no traffic at all behind them. Such a moment is very hard to pick, especially when you can see that there are many cars before the assassination moment. Right after the car picks up the assassin, new cars start arriving again. This indicates there had been some 'orchestration' here too. Either traffic lights had been red on all fronts or traffic had been halted in another way.
longhornfan1234
03-01-2015, 01:08 PM
Putin is such a BOSS!!! :bowdown: :bowdown:
KevinNYC
03-01-2015, 01:20 PM
Putin is such a BOSS!!! :bowdown: :bowdown:
longhorn gonna longhorn
tomtucker
03-01-2015, 01:42 PM
fukking assholes overthere.......... we need "the interview 2" :pimp:
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03-01-2015, 02:03 PM
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tomtucker
03-01-2015, 02:36 PM
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GreggPopazit
03-01-2015, 06:22 PM
beautiful painting........:eek:
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KevinNYC
03-02-2015, 03:30 AM
The other thing interesting about this is the initial reports had several things false. They said the shots were fired from a white car which then fled the scene. So police and other folks were looking for a white car. The gunman was on the street.
This also took place in a highly secure area with security cameras everywhere that would give much better images than this distant weather camera. So where are those pictures? Where did the story of the white car come from?
tomtucker
03-02-2015, 04:12 AM
The other thing interesting about this is the initial reports had several things false. They said the shots were fired from a white car which then fled the scene. So police and other folks were looking for a white car. The gunman was on the street.
This also took place in a highly secure area with security cameras everywhere that would give much better images than this distant weather camera. So where are those pictures? Where did the story of the white car come from?
well, it ain't no mystery.........sadly, putin critics get murdered in russia
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Dresta
03-02-2015, 08:07 AM
Swear KevNYC is just a propaganda bot: it's all he does (well, he mostly copies and pastes the propaganda of others, as if people couldn't find and read articles for themselves if they so wanted). Most would rather find out for themselves, if they're interested in the topic, rather than be fed your specially chosen syntheses (whatever supports your personal dogmatisms, i.e. propaganda)
Almost every thing he's ever posted on here can be seen as an effort to make others view the Obama administration more positively, directly on indirectly. So, so incredibly sad, really.
BurningHammer
03-02-2015, 09:39 AM
Ain't Putin and the Hotel Moscow ordered out mercury poisoning to traitors too?
GreggPopazit
03-02-2015, 10:25 AM
well, it ain't no mystery.........sadly, putin critics get murdered in russia
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Great gif :lol
KevinNYC
03-02-2015, 10:32 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/security-cameras-that-would-have-filmed-boris-nemtsov-shooting-were-turned-off-for-repairs-10080290.html[QUOTE]Security cameras that would have filmed the shooting of Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov were turned off for repairs at the time, according to local media reports.
The claims come amid conflicting reports about whether footage of the killing exists.
Sources at the country
Im Still Ballin
03-02-2015, 10:41 AM
Can we get your actual opinion on any of this?
Jesus christ.
MavsSuperFan
03-02-2015, 06:24 PM
Putin is sort of a badass.
Crown&Coke
03-02-2015, 07:54 PM
Putin is like a real life Bond villain
TheMan
03-03-2015, 10:09 AM
Swear KevNYC is just a propaganda bot: it's all he does (well, he mostly copies and pastes the propaganda of others, as if people couldn't find and read articles for themselves if they so wanted). Most would rather find out for themselves, if they're interested in the topic, rather than be fed your specially chosen syntheses (whatever supports your personal dogmatisms, i.e. propaganda)
Almost every thing he's ever posted on here can be seen as an effort to make others view the Obama administration more positively, directly on indirectly. So, so incredibly sad, really.
I don't know how things are over at the UK but here in American we have the freedom to write, post, talk and read whatever we want. Feel free to even ignore his threads if you like...that's what public forums are all about. No one forced you to click on this thread, am I right?
That's like my bitching about Sean Hannity, guess what, he has a right to his opinions (propaganda) and people have the right to listen to him regardless of whether I like it or not. I simply have the right/choice to not listen to him and I certainly don't go around critisizing people who listen to him.
KevinNYC
03-04-2015, 11:23 AM
Putin now calls Nemtsov's murder a a shame and a tragedy. (http://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-putin-makes-first-public-comments-on-killing-of-boris-nemtsov-1425468224)
Russian President Vladimir Putin told senior police officials Wednesday that they should “finally rid Russia of shame and tragedy” such as the killing of opposition activist Boris Nemtsov, his first public comments on the slaying.
Mr. Nemtsov, a former deputy prime minister who later became a fierce Kremlin critic, was gunned down near the Kremlin late Friday, a murder that opposition allies blame on the authorities.
“The most serious attention should be paid to high-profile crimes, including those with a political motive. We need to finally rid Russia of shame and tragedy such as we experienced and saw very recently. I mean the brazen murder of Boris Nemtsov right in the center of the capital,” he said in a speech.
Investigators haven’t named any suspects in the case, but say they are questioning witnesses, carrying out forensic analysis and have checked security camera footage.
The Kremlin released a statement from Mr. Putin shortly after the murder, saying it looked like a contract killing and was of a “provocative nature,” suggesting it was aimed at discrediting authorities.
Investigators say they are looking into whether Mr. Nemtsov was a “sacrificial victim” used to destabilize the country. Other theories include a link to the conflict in Ukraine or Islamist extremists.
Asked Wednesday whether there were any suspects in the case, the head of Russia’s FSB security service, Alexander Bortnikov, was quoted by state news agencies as saying: “There always are.”
In his speech, Mr. Putin indicated there would be no letup in the pressure on the opposition, saying Russia was facing attempts to use “color technology,” a reference to peaceful revolutions in neighboring countries that Moscow blames on the Unites States.
“The actions of extremists are becoming more and more widespread. We are running into attempts of using so-called color technologies, from organizing illegal street protests to open propaganda of hatred in social networks,” Mr. Putin said.
KevinNYC
03-07-2015, 02:36 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2015/0307/Two-arrested-What-do-we-know-now-about-the-murder-of-Boris-Nemtsov[QUOTE]Two men have been detained in connection to the murder of the Russian opposition leader. But the motive behind the killing remains unclear, leaving room for a wide range of theories from all sides of the political spectrum.
By Jessica Mendoza, Staff Writer MARCH 7, 2015
Dmitry Lovetsky/AP Photo/FileView Caption
Two suspects are in custody over last week
KevinNYC
03-07-2015, 02:39 PM
Nemtsov's friends ask: where were the police when he was shot? (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/06/us-russia-nemtsov-surveillance-insight-idUSKBN0M225820150306)
ast week, when Boris Nemtsov was shot dead as he walked across a bridge next to the Kremlin, it took 11 minutes before a police car arrived at the scene, according to the time stamp on closed circuit television footage.
From the moment the 55-year-old former deputy prime minister was shot late last Friday night, associates of the Kremlin critic have been asking why the police took so long to get there, and how, in such a heavily monitored location, someone could fire six shots at him and get away.
Accounts gathered by Reuters from opposition activists and Nemtsov's friends raise questions about state security agencies' actions in the minutes before and after the attack on Nemtsov.
Those sources say they believe Russian security agencies, which run close surveillance on many prominent opposition figures, especially in the run-up to a protest, were monitoring Nemtsov, who was organizing a rally due to take place two days after his death.
That surveillance, they said, included the tapping of phone conversations and security agents at times physically tailing opposition figures. They said they knew of the practice because in the past their telephone conversations had been posted on the Internet.
In addition, people with experience of trying to stage protests close to the Kremlin said the area is under 24 hour monitoring from closed circuit cameras and a heavy concentration of police and security service agents, making it one of the most tightly protected places in Russia......
...In 2013, one of Nemtsov's fellow opposition activists, Sergei Sharov-Dalaunay, tried, with one other person, to stage an impromptu picket on Red Square, a few hundred yards from the spot where Nemtsov was killed. In contrast to the 11 minutes it took police to arrive on the night Nemtsov was shot, Sharov-Dalaunay said it took police only seconds to grab him from the moment he unfurled a banner.
KevinNYC
03-11-2015, 09:23 AM
Monitors: Boris Nemtsov Killing Suspect Says He Confessed Under Duress
Right Activist Say There Is
Dresta
03-11-2015, 09:52 AM
I don't know how things are over at the UK but here in American we have the freedom to write, post, talk and read whatever we want. Feel free to even ignore his threads if you like...that's what public forums are all about. No one forced you to click on this thread, am I right?
That's like my bitching about Sean Hannity, guess what, he has a right to his opinions (propaganda) and people have the right to listen to him regardless of whether I like it or not. I simply have the right/choice to not listen to him and I certainly don't go around critisizing people who listen to him.
:biggums:
What are you blabbering about, child? He has the freedom to write, post and whatever, and i have the right to call out his bullshit, mention the fact he is completely lacking any opinions of his own, and that only re-posts pro-Obama trivialities like some kind of automated bot, programmed by Obama's internet propaganda team.
As for this thread, and my opinion of the matter: i think it is exceedingly unlikely that Putin had anything to do with this, as Nemtsov was already disgraced by his association with the Yeltsin regime, and Putin had nothing to gain by knocking him off - only things to lose.
What people don't understand is that Putin's grasp on power is more tenuous than most Westerners appreciate, that there are other powerful factions in the Kremlin, and that we are likely to like them even less. We are certainly not going to get another pro-Western Yeltsinist regime, as the Russian people wouldn't stand for it. Westerners want to bring democracy to Russia, while the Russians call democracy 'the rule of shit' and want nothing to do with it.
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