View Full Version : Why does Chuck always insist on GSW being non-contender/jump shooting team?
J Shuttlesworth
03-06-2015, 02:20 AM
Christ, how many times have we heard this myth this year from chuck? Top 4 in the league in points in the paint = jump shooting team
Not only that, but the last 4 championship teams have relied on a lot of jump shooting.
KNOW1EDGE
03-06-2015, 02:22 AM
It's just his opinion.
So far he's been right about GSW.
I don't see them winning a championship with this roster
ProfessorMurder
03-06-2015, 02:22 AM
How many championships have they won recently?
CavaliersFTW
03-06-2015, 02:23 AM
Because Chuck has said many times over the past 10+ or w/e years being an analyst. You don't live by the 3 point shot, you die by it. I've heard him say it many times, directed towards many teams over the years.
At least he's sticking to what he believes. His opinion is consistent.
J Shuttlesworth
03-06-2015, 02:24 AM
How many championships have they won recently?
His choices were memphis and chicago. How many championships have they won recently?
J Shuttlesworth
03-06-2015, 02:25 AM
Because Chuck has said many times over the past 10+ or w/e years being an analyst. You don't live by the 3 point shot, you die by it. I've heard him say it many times, directed towards many teams over the years.
At least he's sticking to what he believes. His opinion is consistent.
It would be relevant if the Warriors weren't one of the top teams in the paint.
And he's always hyping portland, who is much more of a jump shooting team. Their big man is literally a mid-range shooter
Milbuck
03-06-2015, 02:27 AM
It's even more retarded when you consider the style of play of the last 4 champions. The dude simply cannot accept that the league has changed significantly since his era. Not to mention that he's just factually incorrect about the Warriors, when you look at all the numbers behind their play..particularly their paint production.
tpols
03-06-2015, 02:28 AM
Hes probably right.. i'd be absolutely shocked to see the Warriors win a championship this year. they'd have to get hot as hell.. i'd love to see it tough.
ralph_i_el
03-06-2015, 02:29 AM
Because Chuck has said many times over the past 10+ or w/e years being an analyst. You don't live by the 3 point shot, you die by it. I've heard him say it many times, directed towards many teams over the years.
At least he's sticking to what he believes. His opinion is consistent.
It's consistent...just really wrong
J Shuttlesworth
03-06-2015, 02:30 AM
Hes probably right.. i'd be absolutely shocked to see the Warriors win a championship this year. they'd have to get hot as hell.. i'd love to see it tough.
I have my doubts that the Warriors win too, but how does he say that Portland is a legit contender, but GSW isn't, and his reasoning being that GSW is a jump shooting team?
GSW = 4th in the league for points in the paint, while portland is 2nd to last
Also, Portland has the 2nd highest percentage of points from 3 point land...
I don't really mind his point, but the dude is contradicting himself like crazy
CavaliersFTW
03-06-2015, 02:31 AM
It would be relevant if the Warriors weren't one of the top teams in the paint.
And he's always hyping portland, who is much more of a jump shooting team. Their big man is literally a mid-range shooter
He said it about the Orlando Magic in 2009. They were a team that was built around Dwight's dominance in the paint (at the time it was his career season as far as productivity), and 3 point shooters (from all positions, from PG to PF) built around him as the central hub. And man could that team shoot the lights out from 3 when they got hot, I watched them tear apart the 2009 Cavs in the playoffs we had no answers to their shooting.
They got swiftly ousted in the Finals though.
But he was saying the same thing about them. They made it all the way to the Finals but he stuck to his guns the entire time claiming they had little to no chance because of their dependence on the 3 point shot. They were hot when they played the Cavs but he felt they would eventually get cold, and thus exposed, and that's exactly what happened. A common bball saying is you live or die by the 3 point shot, because you either go up 3 points or your brick is more likely to get rebounded by the other team in better position to start their transition game. Chuck put his own twist on that saying and likes to believe/say you die by the 3 point shot. He doesn't even put the live part in there lol.
He's been right about teams in the past, like the Magic, so his stubborn outlook towards 3 point shooting teams has not been totally bonehead. Until a team proves him wrong he's probably going to keep saying it.
Milbuck
03-06-2015, 02:32 AM
I have my doubts that the Warriors win too, but how does he say that Portland is a legit contender, but GSW isn't, and his reasoning being that GSW is a jump shooting team?
GSW = 4th in the league for points in the paint, while portland is 2nd to last
Also, Portland has the 2nd highest percentage of points from 3 point land...
I don't really mind his point, but the dude is contradicting himself like crazy
He's not contradicting himself, he just flat out doesn't know what he's talking about. He hates the numbers but this is a prime example of where the numbers objectively shit on his argument.
Heavincent
03-06-2015, 02:33 AM
How many championships have they won recently?
Okay Skip Bayless.
1987_Lakers
03-06-2015, 02:35 AM
He said it about the Orlando Magic in 2009. They were a team that was built around Dwight's dominance in the paint (at the time it was his career season as far as productivity), and 3 point shooters (from all positions, from PG to PF) built around him as the central hub. And man could that team shoot the lights out from 3 when they got hot, I watched them tear apart the 2009 Cavs in the playoffs we had no answers to their shooting.
They got swiftly ousted in the Finals though.
But he was saying the same thing about them. They made it all the way to the Finals but he stuck to his guns the entire time claiming they had little to no chance because of their dependence on the 3 point shot. They were hot when they played the Cavs but he felt they would eventually get cold, and thus exposed, and that's exactly what happened. A common bball saying is you live or die by the 3 point shot, because you either go up 3 points or your brick is more likely to get rebounded by the other team in better position to start their transition game. Chuck put his own twist on that saying and likes to believe/say you die by the 3 point shot. He doesn't even put the live part in there lol.
He's been right about teams in the past, like the Magic, so his stubborn outlook towards 3 point shooting teams has not been totally bonehead. Until a team proves him wrong he's probably going to keep saying it.
The funny thing is Barkley actually picked Orlando to beat the Lakers in the 2009 Finals.:oldlol:
I vividly remember Chuck saying "Orlando is going to have the same advantages vs the Lakers as they did vs the Cavs."
Fudge
03-06-2015, 02:36 AM
Let's be real, GSW's identity is revolved around three point shooting, thus making Chuck's point valid, if you were even questioning it to begin with.
TheMarkMadsen
03-06-2015, 02:37 AM
Hes probably right.. i'd be absolutely shocked to see the Warriors win a championship this year. they'd have to get hot as hell.. i'd love to see it tough.
exactly this.
who are these teams from the last 4 years who didn't have an inside presence that ISH seems to be so quick to suggest.
Mavs, HEAT & Spurs
Mavs and HEAT best players were low post threats.
Spurs still had Duncan who was capable of scoring 18-20 points off the block for consistent stretches of games in the playoffs
:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
CavaliersFTW
03-06-2015, 02:37 AM
The funny thing is Barkley actually picked Orlando to beat the Lakers in the 2009 Finals.:oldlol:
I vividly remember Chuck saying "Orlando is going to have the same advantages vs the Lakers as they did vs the Cavs."
Did he? I swear he kept shitting on 3 point shooting at least building up to that playoffs, maybe he changed his story after the Cavs got torn to pieces? Funny if so maybe he's not so consistent :lol
J Shuttlesworth
03-06-2015, 02:37 AM
He said it about the Orlando Magic in 2009. They were a team that was built around Dwight's dominance in the paint (at the time it was his career season as far as productivity), and 3 point shooters (from all positions, from PG to PF) built around him as the central hub. And man could that team shoot the lights out from 3 when they got hot, I watched them tear apart the 2009 Cavs in the playoffs we had no answers to their shooting.
They got swiftly ousted in the Finals though.
But he was saying the same thing about them. They made it all the way to the Finals but he stuck to his guns the entire time claiming they had little to no chance because of their dependence on the 3 point shot. They were hot when they played the Cavs but he felt they would eventually get cold, and thus exposed, and that's exactly what happened. A common bball saying is you live or die by the 3 point shot, because you either go up 3 points or your brick is more likely to get rebounded by the other team in better position to start their transition game. Chuck put his own twist on that saying and likes to believe/say you die by the 3 point shot. He doesn't even put the live part in there lol.
He's been right about teams in the past, like the Magic, so his stubborn outlook towards 3 point shooting teams has not been totally bonehead. Until a team proves him wrong he's probably going to keep saying it.
Sure, but Orlando was a team that was quite weak in the paint, outside of Dwight. Looking at the numbers, they were 24th in the league in points in the paint that year.
Golden State is a completely different story. They are very effective at scoring inside because of their fastbreak opportunities, and Curry/Klay DO have inside game (most underrated aspect of their game).
I mean it's scary as **** that they are 4th at points in the paint, yet 3rd at percentage of points from 3's.
tpols
03-06-2015, 02:37 AM
I have my doubts that the Warriors win too, but how does he say that Portland is a legit contender, but GSW isn't, and his reasoning being that GSW is a jump shooting team?
GSW = 4th in the league for points in the paint, while portland is 2nd to last
Also, Portland has the 2nd highest percentage of points from 3 point land...
I don't really mind his point, but the dude is contradicting himself like crazy
I didn't know he was repping Portland like that lol.. that pretty much tosses his opinion in the trash.
Only teams that have a chance out west are Memphis golden state spurs and OKC if they get their shit right Imo
SwishSquared
03-06-2015, 02:38 AM
He's not contradicting himself, he just flat out doesn't know what he's talking about. He hates the numbers but this is a prime example of where the numbers objectively shit on his argument.
Exactly this.
Charles doesn't know nearly as much as he thinks he does, or his knowledge isn't close to being as relevant as it once was. He goes by old reputation and doesn't watch these teams play enough. The last team to win a title that jived with his personal philosophy had an end-of-prime Kobe with Phil Jackson coaching.
I've loved listening to Sir Charles for the entertainment value over the years, but he's so wrong about big points nowadays that it's hard to accept plenty of his arguments as having much merit. This is off topic, but he used to always state how he'd one day be a GM (lol I think he used to insinuate he'd GM in Philly, but wouldn't take a "hometown discount" before Hinkie was hired). I think he's slightly salty that teams won't hire him based on his old-school philosophies and lack of awareness of what's going on nowadays, and that bitterness seeps out as unwarranted criticism for teams he feels don't abide by his ideal playing style.
Heavincent
03-06-2015, 02:39 AM
Let's be real, GSW's identity is revolved around three point shooting, thus making Chuck's point valid, if you were even questioning it to begin with.
No, their identity revolves around their defense.
Big Cheese
03-06-2015, 02:39 AM
the warriors are only 14th in percentage of shots that are jumpers while the trail blazers are 3rd.
other notable western conference teams
clippers 4th
spurs 10th
OKC 11th
Mavs 12th
http://www.nbaminer.com/shot-types/
Bobcats2013
03-06-2015, 02:40 AM
Curry and Klay don't know how to get to the FT line. I mean Curry tries to do what the other superstars do to try and get calls but he just never gets them.
For the past 3 years they've always lost to teams that know how to get to the FT line. I think that's what Chuck means.
J Shuttlesworth
03-06-2015, 02:40 AM
exactly this.
who are these teams from the last 4 years who didn't have an inside presence that ISH seems to be so quick to suggest.
Mavs, HEAT & Spurs
Mavs and HEAT best players were low post threats.
Spurs still had Duncan who was capable of scoring 18-20 points off the block for consistent stretches of games in the playoffs
:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
2012 Heat and 2014 Spurs made it rain from 3 point land. Also goes without saying that the Mavericks had Dirk/Terry raining outside shots all series long. In 2013, Popovich basically said "Make your outside shots if you want the chip" and the Heat did.
And again, these points would be relevant if the Warriors were a weak inside team, but they clearly aren't.
The winners of the last 4 years at least have had a great outside shooting while also being effective in the paint. Golden State is no exception there.
J Shuttlesworth
03-06-2015, 02:42 AM
I didn't know he was repping Portland like that lol.. that pretty much tosses his opinion in the trash.
Only teams that have a chance out west are Memphis golden state spurs and OKC if they get their shit right Imo
I would take Memphis over GSW since Memphis slows the whole series down, which will prevent Golden State's fast break opportunities... but I just don't get propping up Portland and putting down GSW :biggums:
Heavincent
03-06-2015, 02:44 AM
Curry and Klay don't know how to get to the FT line. I mean Curry tries to do what the other superstars do to try and get calls but he just never gets them.
For the past 3 years they've always lost to teams that know how to get to the FT line. I think that's what Chuck means.
Steph Curry doesn't get ANY calls for whatever reason. He gets bodied pretty much whenever he goes to the rim...no call. Also, he is constantly being held and grabbed on the perimeter.
I wouldn't have a problem with it if guys like Harden and Durant didn't get FT's every time someone breathed on them. The inconsistency is what drives me nuts.
TheMarkMadsen
03-06-2015, 02:49 AM
2012 Heat and 2014 Spurs made it rain from 3 point land. Also goes without saying that the Mavericks had Dirk/Terry raining outside shots all series long. In 2013, Popovich basically said "Make your outside shots if you want the chip" and the Heat did.
And again, these points would be relevant if the Warriors were a weak inside team, but they clearly aren't.
The winners of the last 4 years at least have had a great outside shooting while also being effective in the paint. Golden State is no exception there.
2012 HEAT had Lebron who was beastly in the post. This was the year where he really began going to the post regularly. Yeah the HEAT had some great outside shooters..
but look at their 2 top scorers Wade and Lebon who took a combined 4 threes per game in the finals, Lebron shot 18% from 3 and they won easily. They had a great mix of inside and outside, which is usually the formula for championship teams. 14 Spurs had Duncan who was able to go for 18 points for an entire series.
Chuck isn't wrong, he's just not fully explaining himself. He's saying that you need a guy who you can go down to on the block consistently with success if you're going to win a championship. Which the Mavs, HEAT, and Spurs all had.
David Lee and Harrison Barnes aren't those guys.
I'd love to see GS win it all, it would be amazing to watch.
bdreason
03-06-2015, 02:50 AM
Our points in the paint number is a bit misleading. We get a lot of those PIP buckets in transition by forcing turnovers. While we can certainly get transition points in the playoffs as well, most teams will slow the pace, and try to limit mistakes and easy transition buckets. The Warriors are, for the most part, a jump-shooting team. We are also a great passing team though, so we do tend to create lots of good looks at the hoop.
The real issue for the Warriors will be guarding the PF position against guys like Duncan, Griffin, Aldridge, and Randolph. This small ball shit we play during the regular season with Draygod at the 4 isn't going to cut it come playoff time. Draygod gets abused by bigger PF's, and his ability to "stretch the floor" on the offensive side of the ball doesn't compensate for that weakness. David Lee should be starting at PF, as he's a better rebounder, pick-setter, mid-range shooter, and passer. He's also (slightly) better at defending the bigger PF's out West on the low block.
I'm still praying that Kerr will realize this before the end of the regular season... otherwise it could be a short postseason.
I<3NBA
03-06-2015, 02:54 AM
what Chuck is saying is that when the threes aren't falling, you better have a post player you can rely on to put up points.
GSW's paint points are all from Curry assists and not from post ups. so once teams employ a trapping scheme on Curry all series, GSW would go out of whack. GSW would fall apart without the ball in Curry's hands.
It doesnt matter, as long as the warriors keep the ball movement smooth they wont need a low post threat.
The problem for the warriors is that im not sure if I trust anyone outside of Curry to get a shot off when needed. That wont matter if they blow teams out and avoid close games though.
warriorfan
03-06-2015, 04:52 AM
He said it about the Orlando Magic in 2009. They were a team that was built around Dwight's dominance in the paint (at the time it was his career season as far as productivity), and 3 point shooters (from all positions, from PG to PF) built around him as the central hub. And man could that team shoot the lights out from 3 when they got hot, I watched them tear apart the 2009 Cavs in the playoffs we had no answers to their shooting.
They got swiftly ousted in the Finals though.
But he was saying the same thing about them. They made it all the way to the Finals but he stuck to his guns the entire time claiming they had little to no chance because of their dependence on the 3 point shot. They were hot when they played the Cavs but he felt they would eventually get cold, and thus exposed, and that's exactly what happened. A common bball saying is you live or die by the 3 point shot, because you either go up 3 points or your brick is more likely to get rebounded by the other team in better position to start their transition game. Chuck put his own twist on that saying and likes to believe/say you die by the 3 point shot. He doesn't even put the live part in there lol.
He's been right about teams in the past, like the Magic, so his stubborn outlook towards 3 point shooting teams has not been totally bonehead. Until a team proves him wrong he's probably going to keep saying it.
I wouldn't really blame 2009 Orlando losing in the finals due to the ineffectiveness of the 3 point shot...If anything it props it up, that team wasn't even good top to bottom talent wise as their competition and they went a long ways. 2009 Lakers were a much better team.
SwishSquared
03-06-2015, 04:55 AM
I wouldn't really blame 2009 Orlando losing in the finals due to the ineffectiveness of the 3 point shot...If anything it props it up, that team wasn't even good top to bottom talent wise as their competition and they went a long ways. 2009 Lakers were a much better team.
SVG also messed up the chemistry re-inserting Nelson into the starting line-up after Rafer Alston had a very good run as the starter. Plus, we'll never know how a missed Courtney Lee bunny would have changed that series... lol
warriorfan
03-06-2015, 05:01 AM
SVG also messed up the chemistry re-inserting Nelson into the starting line-up after Rafer Alston had a very good run as the starter. Plus, we'll never know how a missed Courtney Lee bunny would have changed that series... lol
Agreed, that Courtney Lee tip would of been a huge momentum changer. I remember him getting heat for replacing the hot hand but at the same time I can see where they were coming from. Jameer was having an All-Star year that year and was the leader for that team. SVG probably felt outgunned talentwise and felt he needed a boost. That 2009 Laker team is underrated. 3 skilled 7 footers, Derek Fisher hitting clutch 3's, Ariza was playing his heart out with monster 3&D, and Kobe was playing EXTREMELY well that year too...that version of Kobe is probably the best version when it comes to winning and all-around impact. He played very mature and was making the right plays and taking over when he had to.
SwishSquared
03-06-2015, 05:03 AM
Agreed, that Courtney Lee tip would of been a huge momentum changer. I remember him getting heat for replacing the hot hand but at the same time I can see where they were coming from. Jameer was having an All-Star year that year and was the leader for that team. SVG probably felt outgunned talentwise and felt he needed a boost. That 2009 Laker team is underrated. 3 skilled 7 footers, Derek Fisher hitting clutch 3's, Ariza was playing his heart out with monster 3&D, and Kobe was playing EXTREMELY well that year too...that version of Kobe is probably the best version when it comes to winning and all-around impact. He played very mature and was making the right plays and taking over when he had to.
:cheers: Well said, my thoughts, basically!
Dresta
03-06-2015, 07:57 AM
This is the same clown who said the Spurs were too old to win last year during the middle of the playoffs.
Spurs5Rings2014
03-06-2015, 03:50 PM
This is the same clown who said the Spurs were too old to win last year during the middle of the playoffs.
:lol
Rob123
03-06-2015, 05:54 PM
The problem with the warriors is not that they're not a great team. The warriors are going to be handful for anyone in the playoffs which is a true testament to how great curry and co are. Unfortunately for the warriors the playoffs are a completely different beast than the regular season, when a team like the spurs or memphis or okc has time to gameplan you for potentially 7 games the warriors are forced into lower percentage shots because their offense lives and dies with the success of curry and to an extent klay who can be shut down so iguodala and co have to win games.
In the playoffs having bruisers that can get you some easy buckets and play intimidating defense goes a long way.
For instance if the warriors play the spurs Danny Green and KL are more than a match defensively for Klay and Curry, cutting off the head of the warriors offense.
oarabbus
03-06-2015, 05:56 PM
The problem with the warriors is not that they're not a great team. The warriors are going to be handful for anyone in the playoffs which is a true testament to how great curry and co are. Unfortunately for the warriors the playoffs are a completely different beast than the regular season, when a team like the spurs or memphis or okc has time to gameplan you for potentially 7 games the warriors are forced into lower percentage shots because their offense lives and dies with the success of curry and to an extent klay who can be shut down so iguodala and co have to win games.
What the **** are you talking about
This team has playoff experience and is much better than last year or two years ago
Rob123
03-06-2015, 06:02 PM
What the **** are you talking about
This team has playoff experience and is much better than last year or two years ago
experience is good and like i said they're going to be a handful and could potentially go all the way, but when the game slows down defenses tighten up and things get chippy im not convinced they can get buckets.
They cannot be trusted to run their offense through the low post like several other western contenders can if their guards are in trouble or shots are not falling.
That said if curry and co hit a hot streak for four games every series which is possible, they'll be tough to stop
warriorfan
03-06-2015, 06:04 PM
In the playoffs having bruisers that can get you some easy buckets and play intimidating defense goes a long way.
For instance if the warriors play the spurs Danny Green and KL are more than a match defensively for Klay and Curry, cutting off the head of the warriors offense.
Andrew Bogut, Andre Iguodala, Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, Justin Holiday, Festus Ezili are all intimidating defenders.
Danny Green is kinda shut down Steph Curry and "cut the head off of the warrior offense" ??
:yaohappy: :yaohappy: :yaohappy:
Rob123
03-06-2015, 06:08 PM
Andrew Bogut, Andre Iguodala, Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, Justin Holiday, Festus Ezili are all intimidating defenders.
Danny Green is kinda shut down Steph Curry and "cut the head off of the warrior offense" ??
:yaohappy: :yaohappy: :yaohappy:
Your homer glasses are on over drive. Im curious if yall have ever played ball?
Jump shots are a dangerous weapon but a defensive minded team with a game plan for curry and klay and the defenders to execute that game plan are a huge obstacle.
I never once said the warriors were bad yall need to lighten up and stop being so butt hurt.
Spurs5Rings2014
03-06-2015, 06:10 PM
For instance if the warriors play the spurs Danny Green and KL are more than a match defensively for Klay and Curry, cutting off the head of the warriors offense.
:applause:
Rob123
03-06-2015, 06:10 PM
Go to the gym find the fastest longest guys you can play against them full speed for 30 minutes and then at the very end just try hoisting up 23-24 fters.
If anyone is capable its curry and klay and igoudala no doubt but that's a tall task. It's very possible they accomplish it though.
Not trying to say they're a jump shooting team entirely but I think they're the one team whose offense is completely opened up by the jump shot more so then other teams in my opinion.
And yeah ask KL and Danny green who won the only previous meeting in the playoffs between those teams. GSW got better no doubt but so did the spurs assuming they can get their minds right for the playoffs.
If they play OKC curry's gonna have to d up russ that's gonna wear him the hell out.
Darius
03-06-2015, 06:56 PM
1) League's different. Dinosaurs like Chuck haven't realized it.
2) They just go by the eye test and don't even look at stats. I remember he was calling the Clippers a fastbreak team for the longest time when their efficient in the half court was one of the tops in the league.
AirFederer
03-06-2015, 07:07 PM
He has to say something. He's more of a comedian than "analyst" :confusedshrug:
oarabbus
03-06-2015, 07:27 PM
experience is good and like i said they're going to be a handful and could potentially go all the way, but when the game slows down defenses tighten up and things get chippy im not convinced they can get buckets.
They cannot be trusted to run their offense through the low post like several other western contenders can if their guards are in trouble or shots are not falling.
That said if curry and co hit a hot streak for four games every series which is possible, they'll be tough to stop
You know what they say, defense wins championships... If only we had a top 5 defense :(
Oh wait we do and a top 10 offense
I don't care how many PIP they have, I still look at them as a jump shooting team. They don't have anybody to throw it to in the low post other than David Lee and Bogut and they don't even throw it to them enough anyway, Lee doesn't even start anymore...Green is a good player but he's a perimeter player.
They're obviously successful at driving the lane this year but that lane closes down in the playoffs and I see them reverting to jump shooting which imo will get them killed. I feel they will lose to OKC in the 1st round anyway if they play them...
The problem with the warriors is not that they're not a great team. The warriors are going to be handful for anyone in the playoffs which is a true testament to how great curry and co are. Unfortunately for the warriors the playoffs are a completely different beast than the regular season, when a team like the spurs or memphis or okc has time to gameplan you for potentially 7 games the warriors are forced into lower percentage shots because their offense lives and dies with the success of curry and to an extent klay who can be shut down so iguodala and co have to win games.
In the playoffs having bruisers that can get you some easy buckets and play intimidating defense goes a long way.
For instance if the warriors play the spurs Danny Green and KL are more than a match defensively for Klay and Curry, cutting off the head of the warriors offense.
This guy makes a logical, well thought out post and he's still getting criticized. Homers can't disagree with him without getting all pissy....:biggums:
warriorfan
03-06-2015, 07:40 PM
I don't care how many PIP they have, I still look at them as a jump shooting team. They don't have anybody to throw it to in the low post other than David Lee and Bogut and they don't even throw it to them enough anyway, Lee doesn't even start anymore...Green is a good player but he's a perimeter player.
They're obviously successful at driving the lane this year but that lane closes down in the playoffs and I see them reverting to jump shooting which imo will get them killed. I feel they will lose to OKC in the 1st round anyway if they play them...
Please bet against Steph Curry and Klay Thompson jump shots, I will take all of them.
k0kakw0rld
03-06-2015, 07:58 PM
How many championships have they won recently?
How many champioships did the thunder, clippers, grizzlies, blazers, rockets win recently? :confusedshrug:
TheMarkMadsen
03-06-2015, 08:18 PM
This guy makes a logical, well thought out post and he's still getting criticized. Homers can't disagree with him without getting all pissy....:biggums:
Man this is ISH. Some stat nerd saw the GSW PIP rating and of course to them that means the GSW are great in the paint..
As you said and others have said including myself, they just don't have a guy they can go to in the post to get buckets during those stretches where the jumper isn't falling and that's going to be the death of them.
Please bet against Steph Curry and Klay Thompson jump shots, I will take all of them.
Ill take that bet in the playoffs...I'm not saying they can't, but its been proven, everybody is not the Spurs..Most championship team/contenders either have an inside presence or somebody who can get into the paint almost at will, Lebron, Durant, Westbrook, etc...
Man this is ISH. Some stat nerd saw the GSW PIP rating and of course to them that means the GSW are great in the paint..
As you said and others have said including myself, they just don't have a guy they can go to in the post to get buckets during those stretches where the jumper isn't falling and that's going to be the death of them.
Yeah, I agree completely. I mean, I'm not trying to shit on GS. I think they're the best team in the NBA currently. But the playoffs are just.....................different...Its a whole different game.....
Rob123
03-06-2015, 08:39 PM
You know what they say, defense wins championships... If only we had a top 5 defense :(
Oh wait we do and a top 10 offense
Regular season against an injury riddled league while they have been particularly lucky on the injury front.
Again I would absolutely not be surprised if they win it all they're a great team. In my opinion theyre not cut out to win 16 games in the playoffs the way theyre constructed
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