Has any coach in NBA history done less with more than Scott Brooks?

[SillyRabbit]

I mean there have been some pretty terrible coaches in NBA history, but have any of them done less with more talent?

Having two MVP players on your team along with a perennial DPOY candidate and a very solid bench of role players is every coaches dream.

The fact that this man manages to actually hold his team back is absolutely astonishing. I mean he gets outcoached on a regular basis but tonight Thibs just made him look like a joke.

The only guy who comes to mind is Mike Brown, but he didn't have as talented of a roster as Brooks does.

My mind is blown that he has one of the easiest jobs in the NBA yet he manages to royally screw it up beyond belief.

[navy]

What do you mean done less?

multiple 55+ win seaons
Finals appearance
2 WCF finals losses
1 Semi loss (Westbrook down)

[SillyRabbit]

What do you mean done less?

multiple 55+ win seaons
Finals appearance
2 WCF finals losses
1 Semi loss (Westbrook down)

Since they traded Harden, they've been to one WCF, that's it.

They did that with the reigning MVP Durant and Westbrook playing at MVP level (28-8-7 in the playoffs).

Any high school coach in the country could've done the exact same thing with that roster.

[navy]

Since they traded Harden, they've been to one WCF, that's it.

They did that with the reigning MVP Durant and Westbrook playing at MVP level (28-8-7 in the playoffs).

Any high school coach in the country could've done the exact same thing with that roster.
They've played 2 years without harden....

[Lebronxrings]

brooks isnt the problem. There aren't 5 other coaches you would pick over him.

[coin24]

George Karl comes to mind
Avery Johnson

Brooks is a shitty coach not sure how anyone can argue otherwise, that team is stacked as hell now.. If Durant comes back healthy even with brooks dumb coaching they should advance

[DukeDelonte13]

George Karl comes to mind
Avery Johnson

Brooks is a shitty coach not sure how anyone can argue otherwise, that team is stacked as hell now.. If Durant comes back healthy even with brooks dumb coaching they should advance


Karl --> 1 trip out of the first round in 10 attempts.

OKC has had some devastating playoff injuries in a brutal western conference.

[HOoopCityJones]

Mike. D'antoni.

[nba_55]

They've played 2 years without harden....
:roll: :roll:

[MP.Trey]

Mike. D'antoni.
Fist name that came to mind.

[MMM]

yall niguhs trippin

for how talented OKC is you also have to look their the flaws if anything Brooks is giving too much of the reigns to Westbrook and Durant. As great as those players are they aren't dynamic enough to dictate an entire offense. Durant getting shut down my midget defenders and yall blaming the coach :facepalm

[ClipperRevival]

I don't think OKC will ever win a ring with Brooks. You can get away with a lack of game planning and adjustments in the regular season as Durant/Westbrook can just overwhelm you. But in the playoffs, when teams play each other many games, adjustments are part of the game.

Brooks has never really had a set offense. It's just KD and WB doing their thing. And in crunch time, those guys seem to take turns taking the shots. They have Kanter now but I don't know if he's going to put them over the top as he isn't exactly Olajuwon in the post game.

The only way I see OKC winning it all is if their dynamic duo play out of their minds at the right time. But other than that, when the game slows down, the lack of game planning will show.

[DeuceWallaces]

Avery, Mike Brown. D'Antoni got screwed.

[Smoke117]

I mean there have been some pretty terrible coaches in NBA history, but have any of them done less with more talent?

Having two MVP players on your team along with a perennial DPOY candidate and a very solid bench of role players is every coaches dream.

The fact that this man manages to actually hold his team back is absolutely astonishing. I mean he gets outcoached on a regular basis but tonight Thibs just made him look like a joke.

The only guy who comes to mind is Mike Brown, but he didn't have as talented of a roster as Brooks does.

My mind is blown that he has one of the easiest jobs in the NBA yet he manages to royally screw it up beyond belief.

:kobe: Are people STILL overrating Ibaka's impact on the defensive end?

[ArbitraryWater]

Since they traded Harden, they've been to one WCF, that's it.

They did that with the reigning MVP Durant and Westbrook playing at MVP level (28-8-7 in the playoffs).

Any high school coach in the country could've done the exact same thing with that roster.

Lmfao, they've played two seasons since they traded Harden, and in one of them lost their 2nd best player, in the other they made the WCF and you emphasize it like you just said shit :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Sloan

[KNOW1EDGE]

brooks isnt the problem. There aren't 5 other coaches you would pick over him.

Coaches I'd take over Brooks:

Greg Popovich
George Karl
Rick Carlisle
Tom Thibodeau
Steve Kerr
David Blatt
Frank Vogel
Adam Spielatra
Jeff Hornacek
Jason Kidd
Terry Stott
Stan Van Gundy

Brooks is nor the main problem in OKC, bit he is def a problem and is def holding them back. Durant is as good as gone.

[HOoopCityJones]

Coaches I'd take over Brooks:

Greg Popovich
George Karl
Rick Carlisle
Tom Thibodeau
Steve Kerr
David Blatt
Frank Vogel
Adam Spielatra
Jeff Hornacek
Jason Kidd
Terry Stott
Stan Van Gundy

Brooks is nor the main problem in OKC, bit he is def a problem and is def holding them back. Durant is as good as gone.

This.

The difference in play calling between Thibs and Brooks down the stretch last night is all you need to know about Brooks as a Coach. He lives and dies with his Stars. But even then he can't seem to draw up actual plays for them either.

[SillyRabbit]

Coaches I'd take over Brooks:

Greg Popovich
George Karl
Rick Carlisle
Tom Thibodeau
Steve Kerr
David Blatt
Frank Vogel
Adam Spielatra
Jeff Hornacek
Jason Kidd
Terry Stott
Stan Van Gundy

Brooks is nor the main problem in OKC, bit he is def a problem and is def holding them back. Durant is as good as gone.
That list is incomplete.

These are the coaches that are better than Brooks:

Gregg Popovich
Rick Carlisle
Mike Budenholzer
Steve Kerr
Tom Thibodeau
Stan Van Gundy
Eric Spoelstra
David Joerger
Jeff Hornacek
Terry Stotts
Doc Rivers
Steve Clifford
Frank Vogel
Lionel Hollins
George Karl
Jason Kidd
David Blatt
Brad Stevens
Kevin McHale
Dwane Casey

That puts Brooks in the bottom 10 for NBA coaches.

How can you expect to win a title with a bottom 10 coach?

[Budadiiii]

How can you expect to win a title with a bottom 10 coach?
Realistically, you can't.

I've been saying for years that if Durant somehow manages to win with Scott Brooks then that automatically makes him top 5 all-time for me. Individually it would be the greatest achievement not only in basketball history, but potentially sports history, period. I can't think of any other scenario in the history of sports where a guy has single handedly willed and skilled his way to a team championship the way Durant potentially must do.

[AussieG]

Brooks is good at managing the egos in the locker room, to keep Durant and Westbrook on the same page and in a semi happy situation, but that's about it. Overall as a coach, I find him really weak.

Almost like they win in spite of him and not because of him.

The way the Thunder play most of the time, it's like there is no coach at all. Just Westbrook dribbling up the court and then freestyling.

[ClipperRevival]

Brooks is good at managing the egos in the locker room, to keep Durant and Westbrook on the same page and in a semi happy situation, but that's about it. Overall as a coach, I find him really weak.

Almost like they win in spite of him and not because of him.

The way the Thunder play most of the time, it's like there is no coach at all. Just Westbrook dribbling up the court and then freestyling.

Yup. That's why Durant and Westbrook like him. Cause he just let's them play. There is no structure. Almost ANY, and I mean ANY coach, would've had the success Brooks has had given the amount of talent on that team. It's impoosible not too. But come playoff time, his flaws show up every year when come crunchtime, it's one of their duo taking turns on iso plays trying to make a play. That does 't win rings.

[SillyRabbit]

Brooks is good at managing the egos in the locker room, to keep Durant and Westbrook on the same page and in a semi happy situation, but that's about it. Overall as a coach, I find him really weak.

Almost like they win in spite of him and not because of him.

The way the Thunder play most of the time, it's like there is no coach at all. Just Westbrook dribbling up the court and then freestyling.

The ironic thing is that because Durant and Westbrook are so talented they can carry the Thunder to victory most of the time and therefore give the illusion that they are a good team.

They are not a good team. They are a good roster.

But at the end of the day, talent doesn't win championships without good coaching.

[Quickening]

Easy to blame the coach...but the only reason Durant and Westbrook are seen as MVP talent is because they dominate possession of the ball. If westbrook played team ball no one would give a fck about him.

[I<3NBA]

Easy to blame the coach...but the only reason Durant and Westbrook are seen as MVP talent is because they dominate possession of the ball. If westbrook played team ball no one would give a fck about him.
:yaohappy:

he would probably be a nightmare to guard then. and he'd be much more unstoppable. he'd be a dominant version of CP3.

be reminded that Steve Nash won 2 MVPs playing absolute team ball.

[Quickening]

:yaohappy:

he would probably be a nightmare to guard then. and he'd be much more unstoppable. he'd be a dominant version of CP3.

be reminded that Steve Nash won 2 MVPs playing absolute team ball.

He has lower IQ, is a worse shooter and passer... But yes he would look better than CP3 in team orientated basketball :biggums:

[sd3035]

Easy to blame the coach...but the only reason Durant and Westbrook are seen as MVP talent is because they dominate possession of the ball. If westbrook played team ball no one would give a fck about him.

lol this coming from a guy with a Lebron av