Nerlens Noel since All-Star break [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

ButterFace

03-06-2015, 01:13 PM

I LITERALLY made a post back in August saying Noel would average 12/10/2blocks

LITERALLY

LITERALLY

Well, is he averaging that? Because I think you meant for the season, not for a few weeks post-all-star break.

Im Still Ballin

03-06-2015, 01:14 PM

Intuitively

LITERALLY

Mass Debator

03-06-2015, 01:19 PM

I LITERALLY made a post back in August saying Noel would average 12/10/2blocks

LITERALLY

LITERALLY
Ok, you're on point with the points.. :violin:

Im Still Ballin

03-06-2015, 01:22 PM

per36 my prediction was decent at best 10/9/2

UK2K

03-06-2015, 01:31 PM

I LITERALLY made a post back in August saying Noel would average 12/10/2blocks

LITERALLY

LITERALLY

I do believe I said he would average 11/10/2/2/2

Now on the hunt for where I said it.

GOBB

03-06-2015, 01:58 PM

Noel stinks he's gonna get whored by Wudy GOOBer tonight

coin24

03-06-2015, 02:10 PM

Seen a few sixers games lately and Noel doesn't look that great what are you on about?:confusedshrug:

UK2K

03-06-2015, 02:15 PM

Seen a few sixers games lately and Noel doesn't look that great what are you on about?:confusedshrug:
Well lately (as in his last 10 games) he's averaging 12/9/2/2/3 (yes 3 blocks per game), shooting 49% from the floor and 75% from the line.

Not sure what it takes for a rookie to impress you, but...

UK2K

03-06-2015, 02:18 PM

What's his ceiling?
11, 11, 3

?

Yep, here's me on 4/6/2014.

Fvckin A, man.

ISHGoat

03-06-2015, 02:26 PM

Yep, here's me on 4/6/2014.

Fvckin A, man.

You said thats his ceiling you fking flaming ******.

Youre clearly off by more than the wide distance between your hick ass front teeth, Noel is surpassing your "celing" in his rookie season

GOBB

03-06-2015, 03:46 PM

You said thats his ceiling you fking flaming ******.

Youre clearly off by more than the wide distance between your hick ass front teeth, Noel is surpassing your "celing" in his rookie season

No he's not. 82 games in a season.

Genaro

03-06-2015, 03:53 PM

He's a defensive force already, with MCW's departure he will be shooting more and making points. If the Sixers don't get another big, I could see Noel complimenting Embiid's game very well.

Marchesk

03-06-2015, 03:54 PM

MVP

GOBB

03-06-2015, 03:58 PM

He's a defensive force already, with MCW's departure he will be shooting more and making points. If the Sixers don't get another big, I could see Noel complimenting Embiid's game very well.

Clearly you never watched Noel attempt to score. I'm happy with his defensive ability and whatever garbage pts he can muster along. Heck I'll take him drawing fouls over him attempting to display offense. Noel has the offense of a 9th grader trying out for basketball the first time.

StateProperty

03-06-2015, 04:29 PM

Clearly you never watched Noel attempt to score. I'm happy with his defensive ability and whatever garbage pts he can muster along. Heck I'll take him drawing fouls over him attempting to display offense. Noel has the offense of a 9th grader trying out for basketball the first time.
Hush. You're lowering his trade value for when we trade him for more picks.

Milbuck

03-06-2015, 04:30 PM

Clearly you never watched Noel attempt to score. I'm happy with his defensive ability and whatever garbage pts he can muster along. Heck I'll take him drawing fouls over him attempting to display offense. Noel has the offense of a 9th grader trying out for basketball the first time.
Yeah, you guys might as well trade him for picks. Don't even bother, you know, developing him.

GOBB

03-06-2015, 06:23 PM

Sixers are developing him. I just don't think his offense will ever catch up much. I'll take the 12ppg since AS break and his FT% which is a big part of his scoring. Last month he avg nearly 5FTA and made 75% of his free throws in Feb. Kudos to Brown for working with him religiously

Hush. You're lowering his trade value for when we trade him for more picks.

:roll:

andremiller07

03-06-2015, 06:23 PM

Hopefully Sixers draft another big man and the they trade him to the Kings for Stauskas + whatever else. Love his motor and the fact he protects the rim as well as the passing lanes.

GOBB

03-06-2015, 06:33 PM

Hopefully Sixers draft another big man and the they trade him to the Kings for Stauskas + whatever else. Love his motor and the fact he protects the rim as well as the passing lanes.

No thanks

SwishSquared

03-06-2015, 06:41 PM

Hopefully Sixers draft another big man and the they trade him to the Kings for Stauskas + whatever else. Love his motor and the fact he protects the rim as well as the passing lanes.
Pretty sure it'd cost the Kings' first round pick this year + Stauskas to get him. And that's assuming the pick stays in that 6-7 range. He's coming on strongly and Stauskas has been pretty bad honestly this year, given some expectations.

Edit:
I see Hinkie driving a hard bargain if he were to trade Noel over the summer. Being an effective defender so quickly with seemingly a good amount to still grow is very rare. If a trade somehow gave him a chance to get 2 top 4 picks, I could see him making a deal potentially.

hateraid

03-06-2015, 06:45 PM

hateraid

03-06-2015, 06:46 PM

Hopefully Sixers draft another big man and the they trade him to the Kings for Stauskas + whatever else. Love his motor and the fact he protects the rim as well as the passing lanes.

That's a yahoo fantasy basketball trade offer. No way that would ever happen.

buddha

03-06-2015, 07:00 PM

I LITERALLY made a post back in August saying Noel would average 12/10/2blocks

LITERALLY

LITERALLY

well you were wrong so stfu.

AI09

03-06-2015, 07:29 PM

I have a feeling he'll one day lead the league in steals and blocks. If he focuses on just defense he potentially could.

It's amazing with all these Hinkie trading for second round pick jokes circulating we acquired Noel and Saric, 2 very unique players for Jrue Holiday, a protoypical 1 legged PG. Makes me love the MCD trade for Canaan and MCW trade for the Lakers 1 rd even more.

We basically traded Jru holiday for 3 first rounders
Noel with the pelicans pick in 2013
We traded the pelicans 10th pick(Elfrid Payton) in 2014 for the 12 pick (Saric) and we got back our 2017 draft pick we got rid of in the bynum deal.

The MCW and McDaniels trades are completely understandable. Its no secret sixers are tanking and I can't wait to see what Hinkie does with that Lakers pick. Hinkies done a great job considering what the previous GM and Doug Collins left him with.

DCL

03-06-2015, 07:38 PM

better than tyson chandler at same age

Dr.J4ever

03-07-2015, 03:33 AM

People forget NN surprisingly shot a good FT% in a short stretch of Summer League action. I remember people saying he was much improved at the time, and it didn't look like a problem going forward.

So I was actually surprised to see Noel shoot a paltry 50% plus during the early goings in the NBA regular season. So now he is back to shooting a decent percentage, and it's even translating to some mid range jump shots his gotten lately.

I predicted it here early on. I said we would be very confident going forward by season's end on Noel and MCW's play. I was right about Noel, and only partially right about MCW. Even though Hinkie bet against MCW developing into a prime time PG, the 76ers were starting to develop something good right before MCW's trade, especially defensively.

I say Noel develops his offensive game further, and by next season is a 13/10/3/3 kind of guy nightly. He will also eventually be a yearly threat to win DPOY.

kurple

03-07-2015, 04:08 AM

WCS > Noel

CarlosBoozer

03-07-2015, 04:42 AM

You guys acting like a player can't develop his offense, I remember Ibaka being purely a defensive player and having abosolutely no offense whatsoever until a few seasons later. Players CAN develop.

GOBB

03-08-2015, 12:13 AM

Noel tonight 17rbs 5 steals.

200-100 club is in his future. But can he be a 200-150 club member? I think he could challenge that.

blacknapalm

03-08-2015, 03:37 AM

You guys acting like a player can't develop his offense, I remember Ibaka being purely a defensive player and having abosolutely no offense whatsoever until a few seasons later. Players CAN develop.

bingo and it typically takes bigs years to develop. he's a rookie after all and i don't think he's beyond hopeless on the offensive side. it is true that his dexterity right now is kinda laughable though :lol he's definitely on the rudimentary level on that side of the ball.

that said, all he really needs to do is develop a jumper to complement embiid and space the floor. if he does that, we're talking about a double double machine w/ elite steals and blocks. that's seriously what i would work w/ him the most in the summer. that and a little high-low action passing the ball. sort of mimic what gasol/noah do so well. if he can start draining jumpers and have the ability to throw lobs to embiid...have fun w/ that one.

potentially the best frontcourt in the nba if embiid even comes close to the hype. embiid is a special talent, best big since davis imo so that duo could be filthy

warriorfan

03-08-2015, 03:42 AM

per36 my prediction was decent at best 10/9/2

I predict you dont have a girlfriend

Milbuck

03-08-2015, 03:43 AM

StateProperty

03-25-2015, 01:06 PM

18 games since AS break

13.0 pts
9.8 Rebs
2.7 blks
2.3 stls
49% fg
69% ft

Dr.J4ever

03-25-2015, 01:13 PM

18 games since AS break

13.0 pts
9.8 Rebs
2.7 blks
2.3 stls
49% fg
69% ft

14 points/ 10 boards/ 6 blocks last night in 30 min.

Cousins used his frame to get off with 33 points though, but Noel's presence was felt in the paint. Next season, Joel Embiid and his 270lbs will be guarding Cousins, and Noel will be our middle line backer to block shots.

StateProperty

03-25-2015, 01:51 PM

14 points/ 10 boards/ 6 blocks last night in 30 min.

Cousins used his frame to get off with 33 points though, but Noel's presence was felt in the paint. Next season, Joel Embiid and his 270lbs will be guarding Cousins, and Noel will be our middle line backer to block shots.
Cousins shot 8-27. Just got to the line a ton.

ralph_i_el

03-25-2015, 02:18 PM

Length+Explosiveness+Coordination= Stud

Lets see what wrinkle he can add to his offense to become a force on both ends. Lots of these young bouncy bigs get compared to Tyson Chandler, but even Chandler has an good elbow jumper to keep the D honest

Bosnian Sajo

03-25-2015, 05:31 PM

What was the big hype over him coming out of college? 10ppg/9rpg in 31mpg...and everyone expected him to go #1 overall? Results>potential, just like in the workforce, experience>degree.

SwishSquared

03-25-2015, 07:50 PM

What was the big hype over him coming out of college? 10ppg/9rpg in 31mpg...and everyone expected him to go #1 overall? Results>potential, just like in the workforce, experience>degree.Very few rookies have played defense as well as him, not just this season, but even historically. That was the big deal coming out of college. He wreaks havoc defensively already. His offense is so much better than it was when the season started, so people are hoping he will continue to improve on that end as well.

StateProperty

03-25-2015, 08:26 PM

midatlantic09

03-25-2015, 08:56 PM

Hopefully Sixers draft another big man and the they trade him to the Kings for Stauskas + whatever else. Love his motor and the fact he protects the rim as well as the passing lanes.

No way. Why on earth would the Sixers want Stauskas? He's absolutely not what they need. The Sixers are trying to put together a team that can compete for a championship within the next 4-5 years and picking up a guy like Stauskas (a nice player, but definitely not a guy with star potential or even full-time starter potential) would be going in the opposite direction.

The Sixers are in a great position to pick up either Russell or Mudiay in the upcoming draft or even sign a top shooting guard free agent during the off-season. There's no need for a guy like Stauskas.

StateProperty

03-25-2015, 11:31 PM

Another gem tonight

14 pt's (5-8fg)
15 Rebs
4 blks
4 stls
2 assists

GOBB

03-25-2015, 11:57 PM

Another gem tonight

14 pt's (5-8fg)
15 Rebs
4 blks
4 stls
2 assists

:bowdown:

18 games not including tonight since AS break

13ppg
9.8rpg
2.7bpg
2.3spg

Bosnian Sajo

03-26-2015, 12:00 AM

How many of those 2013 draftees would you take over him? Oladipo and? Him going #1 if he was healthy was expected.

Rudy Gobert, Giannis, Shabazz. Weak draft in general though, the lottery isn't looking good for that class.

Eric Cartman

03-26-2015, 12:55 AM

Rudy Gobert, Giannis, Shabazz. Weak draft in general though, the lottery isn't looking good for that class.

Lay down the crack pipe.

RonSwanson

03-26-2015, 01:37 AM

Rudy Gobert, Giannis, Shabazz. Weak draft in general though, the lottery isn't looking good for that class.

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

Bosnian Sajo

03-26-2015, 01:58 AM

Lay down the crack pipe.

You think Noel > Gobert??

:lebronamazed:

Eric Cartman

03-26-2015, 02:01 AM

You think Noel > Gobert??

:lebronamazed:

Without a doubt.

Bosnian Sajo

03-26-2015, 02:03 AM

And yall stay sleep on Shabazz. 14ppg in 22mpg, shooting 49% and 39% from three. Shooting almost 50%, as a guard? :applause:

Milbuck

03-26-2015, 02:04 AM

Oladipo, Giannis, MCW, Gobert, Noel, Schroder all have all-star potential. The first 3 could be all-stars as soon as next season, the next 2 could be perennial DPOY candidates, and Schroder is gonna be one of the best all-around PGs in the game in a few years. 2013 draft is incredibly underrated. There may not be a Lebron, KD, Davis-level prospect but it could be very similar to 2011 where there are a bunch of high quality players like Kyrie, Klay, Kawhi, Butler, Vucevic, Mirotic, etc.

StateProperty

03-26-2015, 04:13 PM

Since the all star break he is

1st in blocks
2nd in steals (to Kawhi Leonard)

At 2.0 blks and 1.8 steals, he has a slim chance to be the first since Gerald Wallace ('04) with 2blks/2stls.

He ranks:
3rd in defensive box plus-minus
5th in defensive win shares
7th in defensive rating

Idk what all that even means, but Marc Gasol, Deandre Jordan, and Draymond Green are the only others to be top 10 in those categories.

GOBB

03-26-2015, 04:52 PM

Oladipo, Giannis, Gobert, Noel, Schroder all have all-star potential. The first 2 could be all-star as soon as next season, the next 2 could be perennial DPOY candidates, and Schroder is gonna be one of the best all-around PGs in the game in a few years. 2013 draft is incredibly underrated. There may not be a Lebron, KD, Davis-level prospect but it could be very similar to 2011 where there are a bunch of high quality players like Kyrie, Klay, Kawhi, Butler, Vucevic, Mirotic, etc.

No MCW. :roll:

StateProperty

03-27-2015, 10:01 PM

30 pts
14 Rebs
2 steals

Sportal

03-27-2015, 10:48 PM

30 pts
14 Rebs
2 steals

In
a
blowout

But yeah, I was quite surprised. Did not expect that from him, ever, tbh.

SwishSquared

03-27-2015, 10:56 PM

In
a
blowout

But yeah, I was quite surprised. Did not expect that from him, ever, tbh.Pretty sure he had 18 points, 9 rebounds on great shooting splits at halftime when they were down only 9 or so.

Sportal

03-27-2015, 11:08 PM

Pretty sure he had 18 points, 9 rebounds on great shooting splits at halftime when they were down only 9 or so.

Well that's good. As I said, I was surprised. I'm sure the fans of the team will be equally surprised and already very excited to start next season.

Do you think Mudiay will be their pick?

SwishSquared

03-28-2015, 12:22 AM

Well that's good. As I said, I was surprised. I'm sure the fans of the team will be equally surprised and already very excited to start next season.

Do you think Mudiay will be their pick?I'm not entirely sure. I think some of it depends on where the ping pong balls land. I think they draft who they believe BPA is.

I have a feeling they'll end up with Russell though and later combine 2nd round picks to move up to get George Lucas. Total speculation though lol.

Milbuck

03-28-2015, 12:50 AM

No MCW. :roll:
Totally forgot, thanks for the reminder. Edited my post.

SwishSquared

03-28-2015, 01:44 AM

Totally forgot, thanks for the reminder. Edited my post.You actually did edit :oldlol: No trolling around haha

qrich

03-28-2015, 01:46 AM

I'm not entirely sure. I think some of it depends on where the ping pong balls land. I think they draft who they believe BPA is.

I have a feeling they'll end up with Russell though and later combine 2nd round picks to move up to get George Lucas. Total speculation though lol.

And Russell would be a much superior pick to Mudiay.