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CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 12:39 AM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L8tSVJQM4n0/VPp8DO6fbPI/AAAAAAAAFuc/W7pola-sWRU/s800/Wilt%2520Chamberlain%2520meets%2520patrick%2520ewi ng%25201986%2520also%2520310lbs%2520playing%2520we ight%2520280%2520then.jpg (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L8tSVJQM4n0/VPp8DO6fbPI/AAAAAAAAFuc/W7pola-sWRU/s0/Wilt%2520Chamberlain%2520meets%2520patrick%2520ewi ng%25201986%2520also%2520310lbs%2520playing%2520we ight%2520280%2520then.jpg)

http://40.media.tumblr.com/OlSMHmDIaqjn99c7VcLXpxIwo1_1280.jpg

If true that's bigger arms around than peak Arnold had (22 inch biceps) and that's on top of his arms being about half a foot longer. All that muscle mass, no wonder he was outlifting everyone at the gym.

Inb4 trolling.

sd3035
03-07-2015, 12:41 AM
hulk hogan had 24" pythons

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 12:42 AM
hulk hogan had 24" pythons
That's great, Arnold had 22's, Wilt had 23's. Pretty good company.

iamgine
03-07-2015, 12:42 AM
That don't look bigger than this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9BdF3aIgAAdGUs.jpg

SuperPippen
03-07-2015, 12:42 AM
You should talk more about Jerry West, bruh.


Trolls are always gonna troll, but everybody with at least a modicum of brainpower knows that Wilt would be one of the best, if not the best, big in the league in whatever era he played in.


Jerry West on the other hand is a player who hasn't received as much attention. The public needs to know how great he was, and how great he would be if he played today.

SugarHill
03-07-2015, 12:45 AM
That pic in OP is one of my favorites. Anyway, I typed "arnold, andre wilt" into google images and then this shit caught me by surprise. :yaohappy:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yosw9WyFcxY/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABo/ldhJIHBVnHU/photo.jpg

wtf lol

Jud
03-07-2015, 12:48 AM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i146/masterd_2006/300px_arnold_flexing_1134335145.jpg

THOSE are 23 inch arms. No ****ing way in hell Wilt's arm had the same mass in inches judging by that pic in the OP.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 12:48 AM
That don't look bigger than this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9BdF3aIgAAdGUs.jpg
He's what tho, 5-11? When you're small, you can look like a bodybuilder and still be ultimately smaller/weaker than a guy Wilt's size.

Jud
03-07-2015, 12:49 AM
He's what tho, 5-11? When you're small, you can look like a bodybuilder and still be ultimately smaller/weaker than a guy Wilt's size.
Arnold is 6'2

SugarHill
03-07-2015, 12:51 AM
He's what tho, 5-11? When you're small, you can look like a bodybuilder and still be ultimately smaller/weaker than a guy Wilt's size.

He's more like 6'2. :coleman:

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 12:51 AM
Arnold is 6'2
Validating my point. A dwarf compared to Chamberlain.

He's relatively bulkier.

He's ultimately in terms of absolute size, smaller.

coin24
03-07-2015, 12:52 AM
Wilt looks like a dangly twig, his bis are half the size of Arnold's. GTFOH :lol

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 12:58 AM
Wilt looks like a dangly twig, his bis are half the size of Arnold's. GTFOH :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPd4brXPfw

Asukal
03-07-2015, 01:50 AM
Wow nice biceps! :applause:

Still couldn't help him win more than 2 tho. :oldlol:

Cocaine80s
03-07-2015, 01:52 AM
We all knew this nikka was on steroids


Thanks for confirming

T_L_P
03-07-2015, 01:53 AM
Wow nice biceps! :applause:

Still couldn't help him win more than 2 tho. :oldlol:

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

sundizz
03-07-2015, 01:53 AM
There is no question about Wilt's physical dominance. He was/is/and will always be a genetic beast in the likes of Whiteside, McGee, Gobert, and DJ. The real question is whether he'd be more similar to one of those players in this era or whether he would be closer to doing what Shaq did. Personally, I think he'd be closer to putting up Shaq type stats, just in a different way.

Wilt was a horrendous free throw shooter. His skill was marginal. He seemed to prefer fadeaways to legit post moves for the most part. I think the most telling part is that he only won when his scoring dipped significantly. That shows that he was able to adjust his game and play a more winning style of hoops than just be a selfish stat padder.

Defensively, he'd be a beast and likely better than any other center ever at it.

I think an absolute peak of 21 ppg, 16rpg, 3 apg, 1 spg, 4 bpg on 55% is likely what he would of done.

Back to the point - no one really cares CavsFTL. Stop posting about the deceased, it's creepy.

Deuce Bigalow
03-07-2015, 02:01 AM
Wow nice biceps! :applause:

Still couldn't help him win more than 2 tho. :oldlol:
:oldlol:

SyRyanYang
03-07-2015, 02:04 AM
Tell me again why bigger biceps help basketball plays? There is a reason they don't do barbell curls at the combine.

DatAsh
03-07-2015, 02:07 AM
That don't look bigger than this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9BdF3aIgAAdGUs.jpg

Arnold's certainly more defined, but he's also a much smaller human being, which can be deceptive in these kinds of comparisons.

Dwyane Johnson and Shaq would be a similar comparison.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/5/17/12/enhanced-buzz-25959-1368809105-4.jpg

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1397/78/1397781765763.jpg

Smoke117
03-07-2015, 02:18 AM
Arnold was NEVER 6'2". Just like in just about EVERYTHING when height is measured...it's exaggerated. He was a big muscle head action star...it only makes sense to make him bigger on paper. He's barely 6'1" (if that) before age shrinkage.

Smoke117
03-07-2015, 02:21 AM
Arnold's certainly more defined, but he's also a much smaller human being, which can be deceptive in these kinds of comparisons.

Dwyane Johnson and Shaq would be a similar comparison.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/5/17/12/enhanced-buzz-25959-1368809105-4.jpg

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1397/78/1397781765763.jpg

It never ceases to amaze me how Shaq makes almost anyone next to him look like a child. Just think if this guy had a bad temper and a mean streak in him...he could pillage through a town/village by his lonesome, tossing people by throats through the air like some kind of demon out of a horror story.

DatAsh
03-07-2015, 02:56 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how Shaq makes almost anyone next to him look like a child. Just think if this guy had a bad temper and a mean streak in him...he could pillage through a town/village by his lonesome, tossing people by throats through the air like some kind of demon out of a horror story.

I'd like to see Shaq next to this guy

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/5/8/9/enhanced-buzz-14238-1336483552-3.jpg

Smoke117
03-07-2015, 02:58 AM
I'd like to see Shaq next to this guy

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/5/8/9/enhanced-buzz-14238-1336483552-3.jpg

Nice to see an actor from Attack on Titan out on the town. :applause:

tpols
03-07-2015, 03:11 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how Shaq makes almost anyone next to him look like a child. Just think if this guy had a bad temper and a mean streak in him...he could pillage through a town/village by his lonesome, tossing people by throats through the air like some kind of demon out of a horror story.
:lol

Look at Barkley as well.. his head is massive! Makes the rocks head look like a peanut. And his shoulders and waist are much wider as well. This is just a fat slob.. if Barkley was a fitness freak like the rock he'd be like a walking boulder. Mark Wahlberg looks like a damn troll doll next to them.. Someone photoshop a green Don king wig on his head.

warriorfan
03-07-2015, 03:36 AM
There is no question about Wilt's physical dominance. He was/is/and will always be a genetic beast in the likes of Whiteside, McGee, Gobert, and DJ.


wilt would make the 4 cats you listed look like varsity vs jv

AirFederer
03-07-2015, 04:13 AM
Wilt was impressive but it's naive to think he didn't get some steroid tips from Arnold before filming...

dunksby
03-07-2015, 04:21 AM
Arnold's certainly more defined, but he's also a much smaller human being, which can be deceptive in these kinds of comparisons.

Dwyane Johnson and Shaq would be a similar comparison.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/5/17/12/enhanced-buzz-25959-1368809105-4.jpg

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1397/78/1397781765763.jpg
Barkley: 6'6"
Johnson: 6' 5"
Shaq: 7' 1"
Wahlberg: 5' 8"

Stop over analyzing photos, they are highly deceptive. Shaq is way bigger than everyone but Charles and Dwayne are much bigger than Wahlberg but you wouldn't know that from this photo.

dunksby
03-07-2015, 04:25 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how Shaq makes almost anyone next to him look like a child. Just think if this guy had a bad temper and a mean streak in him...he could pillage through a town/village by his lonesome, tossing people by throats through the air like some kind of demon out of a horror story.
http://i.imgur.com/X3F2l4b.jpg

sd3035
03-07-2015, 05:22 AM
in reality about 16-18 inches. Wilt was a well known liar

He looked like a scrawny wimp

warriorfan
03-07-2015, 05:37 AM
I'd like to see Shaq next to this guy

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/5/8/9/enhanced-buzz-14238-1336483552-3.jpg


this cat looks like a mini andre the giant :oldlol:

Papaya Petee
03-07-2015, 07:34 AM
You're a complete idiot, Wilt isn't even CLOSE to 23 inch arms.

23 inch arms are Rick Piano, CT Fletcher, Ronnie Coleman Level in their PRIMES.

Joey Swoll and other humongous people nowadays are in the 21.5-22.5 inch range

And it's not biceps, its your entire arm while flexing.

No, Shaq doesn't have bigger arms than the Rock. It is measured when you flex your arm as hard as you can. People that are ripped have a bicep peak that increases dramatically when flexing, therefore its more deceiving when they aren't flexing.

It's easy to realize you've never spend a day in the gym, bodybuilding, or around supplements in your life.

SexSymbol
03-07-2015, 07:56 AM
He never was 280 nor he was 310, would look completely different.
More like 250-260 at best

alenleomessi
03-07-2015, 08:03 AM
wilt has worse arms than me, arnold has arguably the goat physique.. OP fails again

coin24
03-07-2015, 08:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPd4brXPfw

Arnold has one of the greatest physiques in bodybuilding of all time.

That video says Andre was beasting and wilt was the skinny, cheap ass tag along.. He probably only joined in so he could feel Arnold's muscles and then go home and pull himself silly..

Crimsonrain777
03-07-2015, 08:17 AM
Nice to see an actor from Attack on Titan out on the town. :applause:

I was thinking the same thing. especially with that creepy ass smile :oldlol: :oldlol:

Budadiiii
03-07-2015, 08:30 AM
There is absolutely no way Wilt had 23 inch arms. Why is this a thread? This place continues to go straight to the sewer.

abuC
03-07-2015, 08:43 AM
:roll:

If a story said Wilt could teleport through sheer force of will you'd believe it, I'm sure that if Wilt was alive today you'd be sending him letters written in your own blood/semen and he'd have to get a restraining order filed against you.



Sergio Olvia had some of the largest arm during Arnold's era (Bigger than Arnold's who never measured 22") he was roided out of his mind and his arms were 20 and 1/8th, this is what they looked like -

http://daves-gym.co.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/12072010-sergio-oliva-big.jpg

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/bob_gajda_interview_f.jpg


You probably never lifted a weight in your life if you think Wilt had 23" biceps :lol

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-07-2015, 08:47 AM
OP helping the Wilt myths stay alive. One post at a time. :applause:

abuC
03-07-2015, 08:49 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how Shaq makes almost anyone next to him look like a child. Just think if this guy had a bad temper and a mean streak in him...he could pillage through a town/village by his lonesome, tossing people by throats through the air like some kind of demon out of a horror story.
http://i.imgur.com/TDQdgWy.jpg

warriorfan
03-07-2015, 09:35 AM
^^^^


Badass post up there. So funny, Shaq does look like a little kid especially with his tucked in shirt buttoned up to the last button :oldlol:

Height Freak
03-07-2015, 10:58 AM
Barkley: 6'6"
Johnson: 6' 5"
Shaq: 7' 1"
Wahlberg: 5' 8"

Stop over analyzing photos, they are highly deceptive. Shaq is way bigger than everyone but Charles and Dwayne are much bigger than Wahlberg but you wouldn't know that from this photo.

The Rock is NOT 6'5"!


Barkley: Between 6'4.88"- 6'5.5"

Johnson:Between 6'2.5" - 6'2.75"

Shaq: 7'0" flat

Wahlberg: 5'7" flat

dunksby
03-07-2015, 11:11 AM
The Rock is NOT 6'5"!


Barkley: Between 6'4.88"- 6'5.5"

Johnson:Between 6'2.5" - 6'2.75"

Shaq: 7'0" flat

Wahlberg: 5'7" flat
My point still remains thanks for the exact measurements, BBall reference has Barkley at 6'6" though :cheers:

jongib369
03-07-2015, 11:34 AM
http://i.imgur.com/TDQdgWy.jpg
Who is that

:eek:

Marchesk
03-07-2015, 11:41 AM
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo219/mlalli01/mk9pts.jpg

LAZERUSS
03-07-2015, 11:57 AM
in reality about 16-18 inches. Wilt was a well known liar

He looked like a scrawny wimp

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Chamberlain was, BY FAR, the strongest man to have ever played in the NBA. And he didn't need to "lie" about it. The internet is PLASTERED with his staggering physical feats, all witnessed by fellow players, coaches, members of the media, and millions of fans.

GTFO.

SpanishACB
03-07-2015, 12:07 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Chamberlain was, BY FAR, the strongest man to have ever played in the NBA. And he didn't need to "lie" about it. The internet is PLASTERED with his staggering physical feats, all witnessed by fellow players, coaches, members of the media, and millions of fans.

GTFO.

most deffo gay

LAZERUSS
03-07-2015, 12:19 PM
most deffo gay

Not that there is anything wrong with it, but you don't have to brag about your sexuality here. This is a topic about Wilt,...not you.

OldSchoolBBall
03-07-2015, 12:28 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how Shaq makes almost anyone next to him look like a child.

Yeah, except this guy:

http://i.imgur.com/5SW3T.jpg

DatAsh
03-07-2015, 12:31 PM
Who is that

:eek:

Calvin Lane.

7'5''

SugarHill
03-07-2015, 12:35 PM
Yeah, except this guy:

http://i.imgur.com/5SW3T.jpg
:biggums:

scandisk_
03-07-2015, 12:39 PM
23" biceps

lel :oldlol:

STATUTORY
03-07-2015, 01:00 PM
bicep? we all know that's not the length and girth inquiring minds really wanna know about

LAZERUSS
03-07-2015, 01:09 PM
Calvin Lane.

7'5''

How about Priest Lauderdale...

http://exnba.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Priest-Lauderdale-MVP.jpg

abuC
03-07-2015, 01:54 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Chamberlain was, BY FAR, the strongest man to have ever played in the NBA. And he didn't need to "lie" about it. The internet is PLASTERED with his staggering physical feats, all witnessed by fellow players, coaches, members of the media, and millions of fans.

GTFO.


He didn't have 23" biceps :rolleyes:

jongib369
03-07-2015, 02:13 PM
:roll:

If a story said Wilt could teleport through sheer force of will you'd believe it, I'm sure that if Wilt was alive today you'd be sending him letters written in your own blood/semen and he'd have to get a restraining order filed against you.



Sergio Olvia had some of the largest arm during Arnold's era (Bigger than Arnold's who never measured 22") he was roided out of his mind and his arms were 20 and 1/8th, this is what they looked like -

http://daves-gym.co.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/12072010-sergio-oliva-big.jpg

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/bob_gajda_interview_f.jpg


You probably never lifted a weight in your life if you think Wilt had 23" biceps :lol

Cavs actually does lift, he may not be huge but the guy is obviously athletic. And it doesn't take someone who lifts to realize that Wilts frame is ****ing huge. You guys posting pics or talking about body builders who are probably between 5'9 and 6'4 are rediculous. Have you never came across somone who was a LOT bigger than you? My arms are kinda big, yet I've seen guys about 6'10 who aren't fat, yet don't have any muscle with arms that make mine look girly.

Maybe they weren't exactly 23, but it boggles my mind why you guys are acting like it's impossible a huge mother ****er also has naturally huge arms that he made bigger by working out.

abuC
03-07-2015, 02:18 PM
Cavs actually does lift, he may not be huge but the guy is obviously athletic. And it doesn't take someone who lifts to realize that Wilts frame is ****ing huge. You guys posting pics or talking about body builders who are probably between 5'9 and 6'4 are rediculous. Have you never came across somone who was a LOT bigger than you? My arms are kinda big, yet I've seen guys about 6'10 who aren't fat, yet don't have any muscle with arms that make mine look girly.


He didn't have 23" biceps :rolleyes:


I go to a gym with IFBB pros that devote their lives to lifting, they are on all types of gear....and they don't have 23" biceps. You Wilt stans are delirious and just say "**** logic" when it comes to him.

jongib369
03-07-2015, 02:20 PM
He didn't have 23" biceps :rolleyes:


I go to a gym with IFBB pros that devote their lives to lifting, they are on all types of gear....and they don't have 23" biceps. You Wilt stans are delirious and just say "**** logic" when it comes to him.
Cool story bruh, how tall and heavy are they? Are they 7'1, 300 pounds and lift also?

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 02:25 PM
Cavs actually does lift, he may not be huge but the guy is obviously athletic. And it doesn't take someone who lifts to realize that Wilts frame is ****ing huge. You guys posting pics or talking about body builders who are probably between 5'9 and 6'4 are rediculous. Have you never came across somone who was a LOT bigger than you? My arms are kinda big, yet I've seen guys about 6'10 who aren't fat, yet don't have any muscle with arms that make mine look girly.
They're mostly trolling, but yeah you're right - even a 6-5 body builder would be a midget next to Wilt. Wilt made Ali, a 6-2 heavyweight champ look like a pipsqueak.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fuX7FlddCRg/maxresdefault.jpg

It's the same effect Andre the Giant had on people. Or like Shaq and Chuck in that pic with The Rock and Mark W. Professional bodybuilders, other athletes, you name it they'll all get dwarfed when a person with giant size walks into the room.

abuC
03-07-2015, 02:27 PM
Cool story bruh, how tall and heavy are they? Are they 7'1, 300 pounds and lift also?


You Wilts stans are really weird....


6'10" 420lbs


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/51/2b/2a/512b2ac66acbcaa5809c785a13605008.jpg


World's strongest man participant, he doesn't have 23" arms :roll:


6'11" 360lbs and was on steroids -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nathanjones.jpg/220px-Nathanjones.jpg

Doesn't have 23" arms :roll:


Ronnie Coleman didn't have 23" biceps, you keep harping on and on about height, as though that's going to change the basic size of someones arms.

mehyaM24
03-07-2015, 02:29 PM
LMFAO abuC is destroying wilt fans' hopes & dreams. :oldlol:

LAZERUSS
03-07-2015, 02:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/pygVWlY.jpg

:lol


http://goodmenproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/young-shaq.png

MDE?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

abuC
03-07-2015, 02:33 PM
http://goodmenproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/young-shaq.png

MDE?

:roll: :roll: :roll:


Nobody is claiming Shaq had 49" biceps and could beat up Polar Bears, but if someone said that about Wilt you'd believe them.

jongib369
03-07-2015, 02:36 PM
They're mostly trolling, but yeah you're right - even a 6-5 body builder would be a midget next to Wilt. Wilt made Ali, a 6-2 heavyweight champ look like a pipsqueak.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fuX7FlddCRg/maxresdefault.jpg

It's the same effect Andre the Giant had on people. Or like Shaq and Chuck in that pic with The Rock and Mark W. Professional bodybuilders, other athletes, you name it they'll all get dwarfed when a person with giant size walks into the room.
Still have that picture of Wilts legs next to Unselds? You'd expect Wess to dwarf Chamberlains

I'm surprised his legs don't look more muscular though. They're long so they'll naturally look a little different, but you'd just expect to see more quad definition from someone so strong, fast, and with hops like he had.

Im Still Ballin
03-07-2015, 02:40 PM
http://www.icelebritieshub.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/The-Great-Khali-.jpg
Wilt be tossed around by this giant

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 02:41 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JCc8JFbQOpw/VPtGIfIAcFI/AAAAAAAAFu0/0crhnxu0g4I/s800/wilt80%2527s.jpg

Wilt close to the time of the article in the OP

LAZERUSS
03-07-2015, 02:44 PM
Nobody is claiming Shaq had 49" biceps and could beat up Polar Bears, but if someone said that about Wilt you'd believe them.

I could not care less what Wilt's arms measured at.

There are competitors in world bench-press events whose arms look small compared to a pumped up Arnold's.

What we do KNOW is that Chamberlain was universally acknowledged as among the strongest ATHLETES in the world at the time.

In that pre-fight interview, even Howard Cosell claimed that Wilt was likely the strongest man in the world. Whether it was true, or not, his physical feats, MANY with EYE-WITNESS accounts, are just staggering.

He would made Shaq look like Pee Wee Herman in ANY kind of strength contest.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 02:46 PM
Still have that picture of Wilts legs next to Unselds? You'd expect Wess to dwarf Chamberlains

I'm surprised his legs don't look more muscular though. They're long so they'll naturally look a little different, but you'd just expect to see more quad definition from someone so strong, fast, and with hops like he had.

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2012-05/69809337.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZTw7swW69eU/UvV25OvBLuI/AAAAAAAAE8g/OpN75cHkWOE/s640/Sequence%252001.Still020.jpg

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 02:49 PM
Arnold almost a decade removed from competing in pro-bodybuilding still dwarfs Wilt's arms:

http://i.imgur.com/O7X41dN.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QEUaYEm.jpg

Arnold never had 22 inch arms either.. ****ing Wilt stans. :facepalm
That pic is from the late 70's, Wilt was at his least physically conditioned from weights at that time he was playing volleyball full-time. Sure, Arnold's arms were bigger than Wilt's then. The article is from the mid 1980's though, after Wilt had hit the gym more. You just going to ignore the pic of Wilt, Andre and Arnie together with Wilt making him look small :lol

AirFederer
03-07-2015, 02:57 PM
Dude come on Wilt's clearly bigger :roll:



You Wilts stans are really weird....


6'10" 420lbs


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/51/2b/2a/512b2ac66acbcaa5809c785a13605008.jpg


World's strongest man participant, he doesn't have 23" arms :roll:


6'11" 360lbs and was on steroids -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nathanjones.jpg/220px-Nathanjones.jpg

Doesn't have 23" arms :roll:


Ronnie Coleman didn't have 23" biceps, you keep harping on and on about height, as though that's going to change the basic size of someones arms.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 03:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--LCfLawvSc

Elosha
03-07-2015, 03:45 PM
Wilt was an elite athlete in many respects, but on the topic of this thread, no, those are not 23 inch arms. I've been a weightlifter, including power lifting, for over 20 years. Wilt's arms are something like 19-20, which is still huge. I'm sorry, but as great as Wilt was, he had a tendency to greatly exaggerate his physical abilities, like claiming he had an over 50 inch sergeant (vertical leap). :rolleyes: Even Cavs has admitted that was a complete exaggeration. He's a very good athlete, by any measure, but no, he's not the greatest at every single aspect of every single physical endeavor. Those ain't 23 inch arms.

HomieWeMajor
03-07-2015, 04:05 PM
Another lie created to prop up Wilt. :roll:
What next ?
Wilt's dick was 20 inches ?
He could squat 2000 pounds ?
Wilt had 3 point range ?
Come on lads lets hear them.

Marchesk
03-07-2015, 04:29 PM
Wilt had 3 point range ?


http://youtu.be/h0IC8Nwkd1w

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 04:46 PM
http://youtu.be/h0IC8Nwkd1w
footage is sped up to make him look better tho lol

warriorfan
03-07-2015, 04:49 PM
wilt giving these kids nightmares and shit

ThickassGlasses
03-07-2015, 05:08 PM
6'11" 375+


http://31.media.tumblr.com/790a02bd09e8d8e84b2b1d2c991f9b18/tumblr_mspxofA39O1r9h4heo1_500.jpg


Last measured bicep size? 20.9"

But sure, Wilt had 23's. :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 05:25 PM
6'11" 375+


http://31.media.tumblr.com/790a02bd09e8d8e84b2b1d2c991f9b18/tumblr_mspxofA39O1r9h4heo1_500.jpg


Last measured bicep size? 20.9"

But sure, Wilt had 23's. :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
He's 6-9 actually. Dave Cowens or Larry Bird's height.

Meanwhile Wilt's a guy who's 7-1 with the upper body length equivalent of someone who is actually 7 feet 8 inches in height. If Wilt and Hafthor stretched their arms out you'd see Wilt would probably have almost a foot more length (and the volume that naturally comes with it) in his upper body.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JCc8JFbQOpw/VPtGIfIAcFI/AAAAAAAAFu0/0crhnxu0g4I/s800/wilt80%2527s.jpg

Given the length of his upper body, I can easily see how his arms would still be bigger. Do you know how short 6-9 people looked next to Wilt?

How bulky someone's muscles look matters little when you're a giant. Hafthor, 6-9 and all, is not concerned with making his arms look big as he's a disciplined strong man competitor. If you look at his physique he's all about increasing his core muscles. He's got a huge core look at his waist, huge chest, etc. He's 397lbs. The heaviest Wilt was was 327lbs, but in say, the 1980's Wilt was probably as concerned about looking good as he was keeping up in any discipline of strength or sport. This is post-working-out-with-Arnold Wilt.

ThickassGlasses
03-07-2015, 05:36 PM
Your missing the point.

Guys who are very large, huge even, and that clearly have bigger biceps than Wilt are measuring in under 23". You can argue Wilt's height, wingspan, ect all you want, I'm not posting a picture of a guy to say "hey look his arms LOOKED bigger". I'm telling you, a guy who benefits much more than Wilt would of having massive biceps, and does, would still have smaller arms by over 2 inches? Does that sound right to you?

How about pro bodybuilders KNOWN FOR HAVING MASSIVE ARMS, still measuring in under 23?

No one is saying Wilt wasn't an athletic phenomenon, but your extreme over-exaggerations of him make people hate him.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 05:42 PM
Your missing the point.

Guys who are very large, huge even, and that clearly have bigger biceps than Wilt are measuring in under 23". You can argue Wilt's height, wingspan, ect all you want, I'm not posting a picture of a guy to say "hey look his arms LOOKED bigger". I'm telling you, a guy who benefits much more than Wilt would of having massive biceps, and does, would still have smaller arms by over 2 inches? Does that sound right to you?

How about pro bodybuilders KNOWN FOR HAVING MASSIVE ARMS, still measuring in under 23?

No one is saying Wilt wasn't an athletic phenomenon, but your extreme over-exaggerations of him make people hate him.
I'm not missing the point, the point just isn't convincing at all. You mean guys like 5-11 Ronnie Colemen or 6-1 Arnold?

Right, good comparison. Them, as swole as possible, still not having as big of arms as a 7-1 giant who was well known as one of the strongest athletes alive. How could that possibly be ..lol

Sorry, but even 6-9 guys like Hafthor are still diminutive in their skeletal proportions compared to Wilt. Wilt is 7-1, with a 7-8 armspan, and in those pics I just posted (about the time of the article written) his arms by no stretch of the imagination could be considered to look relatively skinny. His upper body arms and all look huge at that time. And they're the proportions of a person 7 feet 8 inches across.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 05:55 PM
And Wilt 280-327lbs might be trimmer than Hafthors 375-400, but look where a significant amount of Hafthor's mass lies:

http://assets.vice.com/content-images/article/ask-icelands-strongest-man-anything-you-want/1thor_vice_670.jpg

Compare those lower legs to Wilt's

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-POHe_Ss1WS8/VPtyybKAR3I/AAAAAAAAFvs/B0hI72uiAXM/s800/wilt%252069asg.jpg

Wilt is about 300lbs in that picture, not focusing on his arms like he was in the 80's but still worked out (he was a gym rat his whole life) and is just a massive person. Look how lithe his lower legs are - and they were always like that, from the knee's down they're built like an ethiopian endurance runner's. That means his upper body and core are where all his bulk lies and are built massive, as solid as strong men competitors. He walked around with the upper body of men 350lbs+ but on the legs of a runner.

Cocaine80s
03-07-2015, 06:14 PM
And Wilt 280-327lbs might be trimmer than Hafthors 375-400, but look where a significant amount of Hafthor's mass lies:


Compare those lower legs to Wilt's

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-POHe_Ss1WS8/VPtyybKAR3I/AAAAAAAAFvs/B0hI72uiAXM/s800/wilt%252069asg.jpg

Wilt is about 300lbs in that picture, not focusing on his arms like he was in the 80's but still worked out (he was a gym rat his whole life) and is just a massive person. Look how lithe his lower legs are - and they were always like that, from the knee's down they're built like an ethiopian endurance runner's. That means his upper body and core are where all his bulk lies and are built massive, as solid as strong men competitors. He walked around with the upper body of men 350lbs+ but on the legs of a runner.
Wilt's arms look smaller than his legs in this pic :confusedshrug:

abuC
03-07-2015, 06:16 PM
I'm not missing the point, the point just isn't convincing at all. You mean guys like 5-11 Ronnie Colemen or 6-1 Arnold?

Right, good comparison. Them, as swole as possible, still not having as big of arms as a 7-1 giant who was well known as one of the strongest athletes alive. How could that possibly be ..lol

Sorry, but even 6-9 guys like Hafthor are still diminutive in their skeletal proportions compared to Wilt. Wilt is 7-1, with a 7-8 armspan, and in those pics I just posted (about the time of the article written) his arms by no stretch of the imagination could be considered to look relatively skinny. His upper body arms and all look huge at that time. And they're the proportions of a person 7 feet 8 inches across.


He didn't have 23" biceps no matter how much you want to believe it.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-G7SXV-Uommk/UG4ReTY1TbI/AAAAAAAAI_o/-Mb1nMmjyrU/s1600/andre+arnold+wilt.jpg

His triceps are entirely too small to have arms that measure 23".


This is Conan Stevens, he is 7'1" -


http://www.trainbodyandmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Conan-Stevens-Photo-Gallery-06.jpg


http://bigdonsboys.com/bodybuilders/conan_stevens/page_3/images/conan_stevens_arms_up.jpg


He doesn't have 23" biceps........but let me guess.....Wilt was bigger than him :lol

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 06:24 PM
He didn't have 23" biceps no matter how much you want to believe it.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-G7SXV-Uommk/UG4ReTY1TbI/AAAAAAAAI_o/-Mb1nMmjyrU/s1600/andre+arnold+wilt.jpg

His triceps are entirely too small to have arms that measure 23".


This is Conan Stevens, he is 7'1" -


http://www.trainbodyandmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Conan-Stevens-Photo-Gallery-06.jpg


http://bigdonsboys.com/bodybuilders/conan_stevens/page_3/images/conan_stevens_arms_up.jpg


He doesn't have 23" biceps........but let me guess.....Wilt was bigger than him :lol
He's 7-0, not 7-1 and if he's built like most white folks are built his height is about the same as his armspan. Unlike Wilt, who's upper body was 7-8 inches in length, disproportionately bigger than his 7-1 height would indicate.

Yes, I believe at the time of the article written, Wilt was very likely bigger in the upper body than that guy.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JCc8JFbQOpw/VPtGIfIAcFI/AAAAAAAAFu0/0crhnxu0g4I/s800/wilt80%2527s.jpg

abuC
03-07-2015, 06:30 PM
He's 7-0, not 7-1 and if he's built like most white folks are built his height is about the same as his armspan. Unlike Wilt, who's upper body was 7-8 inches in length, disproportionately bigger than his 7-1 height would indicate.

Yes, I believe at the time of the article written, Wilt was very likely bigger looking in the upper body than that guy.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JCc8JFbQOpw/VPtGIfIAcFI/AAAAAAAAFu0/0crhnxu0g4I/s800/wilt80%2527s.jpg



:lol

He's 7'1", you always try to make people shorter than they actually are to pump up Wilt.

Ok, so not only are you delusional for believing Wilt had 23" arms but you need glasses as well.

Conan Stevens from the same angle as that Wilt picture:

http://i58.tinypic.com/n1wbwi.jpg

Bigger arms, bigger shoulders, bigger chest...but Wilt somehow looks bigger to you. You have no idea what you're talking about too, I lift a lot, I have measured my arms and my wingspan is well above average for my height and putting mass on longer arms is more difficult but it doesn't mean you can't tell whether or not someone has guns.

MavsSuperFan
03-07-2015, 06:34 PM
:lol this is not even in the ISH top 10 gayest threads.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 06:38 PM
:lol

He's 7'1", you always try to make people shorter than they actually are to pump up Wilt.

Ok, so not only are you delusional for believing Wilt had 23" arms but you need glasses as well.

Conan Stevens from the same angle as that Wilt picture:

http://i58.tinypic.com/n1wbwi.jpg

Bigger arms, bigger shoulders, bigger chest...but Wilt somehow looks bigger to you.
Ring height is not the same as actual height http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1947403/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

Says he's 7 foot. And again, he's a white guy... it is typical for white folks to have an upper body relatively the same length as their height. This effects everything from how broad your shoulders are to proportionately big your arms are. He even looks like he's got short arms.

You're comparing two 7 footers, but more importantly you're comparing a guy with likely a 7-0 upper body to a guy with a 7-8 upper body. In such a comparison one's can look relatively bulkier but still be ultimately smaller.

You can post all the close-ups of this guys upper body you want, it only proves that close ups in the gym are easier to come by of that guy than they were of Wilt. I doubt he's bigger than Wilt.

abuC
03-07-2015, 06:44 PM
Ring height is not the same as actual height http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1947403/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm



You're comparing two 7 footers, but more importantly you're comparing a guy with likely a 7-0 upper body to a guy with a 7-8 upper body.

.

2.16m - http://www.theonering.net/torwp/the-hobbit/cast/conan-stevens/

And most importantly if you just type his name into google and look to the right his listed height is 7'1".

Making assumptions on his wingspan now :roll: You really have no clue what you're talking about, it's actually comical at this point. A big wingspan isn't going to change anything when you flex your arms, either your peak is "X" or it's not :lol When Conan's arms are flexed they are clearly bigger than Wilts, I mean what the **** get some glasses.


You have crossed over from being a stan to being an obsessed weirdo, to the point you will irrationally argue something that was impossible and are unwilling to concede anything that doesn't deify Wilt. For Wilt's sake I'm glad he's dead, or you'd probably kill him like John Lenon.

STATUTORY
03-07-2015, 06:45 PM
Ring height is not the same as actual height http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1947403/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

Says he's 7 foot. And again, he's a white guy... it is typical for white folks to have an upper body relatively the same length as their height. This effects everything from how broad your shoulders are to proportionately big your arms are. He even looks like he's got short arms.

You're comparing two 7 footers, but more importantly you're comparing a guy with likely a 7-0 upper body to a guy with a 7-8 upper body. In such a comparison one's can look relatively bulkier but still be ultimately smaller.

You can post all the close-ups of this guys upper body you want, it only proves that close ups in the gym are easier to come by of that guy than they were of Wilt. I doubt he's bigger than Wilt.

:biggums: what does that mean?

RoundMoundOfReb
03-07-2015, 06:47 PM
lmao at the delusion

ArbitraryWater
03-07-2015, 06:49 PM
That pic in OP is one of my favorites. Anyway, I typed "arnold, andre wilt" into google images and then this shit caught me by surprise. :yaohappy:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yosw9WyFcxY/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABo/ldhJIHBVnHU/photo.jpg

wtf lol

Thats not even funny :biggums:


:biggums: what does that mean?

:roll: :roll:

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 06:53 PM
:biggums: what does that mean?
It means exactly that.

It's an equatorial adaptation in established populations just like skin hue. The closer a population lives towards the equator, the darker the skin tends to be, as adaptations for Vitamin D absorption and UV protection.

Well, limb ratio among large bodied mammalian populations (not just in humans, in most all large bodied mammalian life forms, such as wolves, big cats, etc) tend to have relatively shorter stockier limbs the further away from the equator you get. I'm talking about population variance among the same species here. Limb ratio is connected more so to climate and thermoregulation. Over thousands of years the genes that go into long lean limbs diminish and are expressed less often when frost bite takes away your populations fingers and toes and puts negative pressure on your survival over thousands of years. Inversely, in the hot sun of an open savanna long lean limbs help to keep you cool more efficiently than short stocky ones, so genes that are behind long limbs are more readily expressed.

In before someone claims this is racism.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 06:55 PM
2.16m - http://www.theonering.net/torwp/the-hobbit/cast/conan-stevens/

And most importantly if you just type his name into google and look to the right his listed height is 7'1".

Making assumptions on his wingspan now :roll: You really have no clue what you're talking about, it's actually comical at this point. A big wingspan isn't going to change anything when you flex your arms, either your peak is "X" or it's not :lol When Conan's arms are flexed they are clearly bigger than Wilts, I mean what the **** get some glasses.


You have crossed over from being a stan to being an obsessed weirdo, to the point you will irrationally argue something that was impossible and are unwilling to concede anything that doesn't deify Wilt. For Wilt's sake I'm glad he's dead, or you'd probably kill him like John Lenon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7sGc_f8Q5Y

He says he's 210 cm tall. And his arms look like t-rex arms compared to say, a basketball players. It's a pretty reasonable assumption.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-07-2015, 06:57 PM
2.16m - http://www.theonering.net/torwp/the-hobbit/cast/conan-stevens/

And most importantly if you just type his name into google and look to the right his listed height is 7'1".

Making assumptions on his wingspan now :roll: You really have no clue what you're talking about, it's actually comical at this point. A big wingspan isn't going to change anything when you flex your arms, either your peak is "X" or it's not :lol When Conan's arms are flexed they are clearly bigger than Wilts, I mean what the **** get some glasses.


You have crossed over from being a stan to being an obsessed weirdo, to the point you will irrationally argue something that was impossible and are unwilling to concede anything that doesn't deify Wilt. For Wilt's sake I'm glad he's dead, or you'd probably kill him like John Lenon.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

STATUTORY
03-07-2015, 06:58 PM
It means exactly that.

It's an equatorial adaptation in established populations just like skin hue. The closer a population lives towards the equator, the darker the skin tends to be, as adaptations for Vitamin D absorption and UV protection.

Well, limb ratio among large bodied mammalian populations (not just in humans, in most all large bodied mammalian life forms, such as wolves, big cats, etc) tend to have relatively shorter stockier limbs the further away from the equator you get. I'm talking about population variance among the same species here. Limb ratio is connected more so to climate and thermoregulation. Over thousands of years the genes that go into long lean limbs disappear when frost bite takes away your fingers and toes and puts negative pressure on your survival. Inversely, in the hot sun of an open savanna long lean limbs help to keep you cool more efficiently than short stocky ones, so genes that are behind long limbs are more readily expressed.

In before someone claims this is racism.

so you mean that white folks have longer upper bodies and shorter limbs relative to their height compared to blacks?

abuC
03-07-2015, 07:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7sGc_f8Q5Y

He says he's 210 cm tall. And his arms look like t-rex arms compared to say, a basketball players. It's a pretty reasonable assumption.



You still don't get it, what does arm length have to do with PEAK BICEP height when the arm is flexed? You keep rambling on and on about arm length, when we have a picture of Wilt flexing, and his arms are not 23". Unless you're talking about his arms being 23" when they're cold (Not flexed) your point about arm length is completely irrelevant. If you think his arms are 23" cold...I'm completely done with you as human being.

Ontop of that, to get over 20" in arm size you need to be on steroids.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 07:06 PM
so you mean that white folks have longer upper bodies and shorter limbs relative to their height compared to blacks?
It's a frequency thing. You can be white and have long arms and a short torso. You can be black and have a long torso and short arms. By frequency though, yes, that's something that has been observed. The reasoning behind it came secondary. The reasoning is thought to be a cold climate vs hot climate recent ancestry thing. Because this exact same trend happens with many species in nature. Gray wolves are a perfect example. Gray wolf populations in say, southern India have typically longer, leaner builds than Gray wolf populations the further north/colder the climate you go. They get stouter and stockier in build as the climate gets colder. I actually learned about this in biology long before I ever even connected it with humans. It's called Allen's rule:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen%27s_rule

deja vu
03-07-2015, 07:12 PM
CavsFTW must be Lazeruss or Jlauber. He goes to great lengths to defend those Wilt myths. :lol

STATUTORY
03-07-2015, 07:14 PM
It's a frequency thing. You can be white and have long arms and a short torso. You can be black and have a long torso and short arms. By frequency though, yes, that's something that has been observed. The reasoning behind it came secondary. The reasoning is thought to be a cold climate vs hot climate recent ancestry thing. Because this exact same trend happens with many species in nature. Gray wolves are a perfect example. Gray wolf populations in say, southern India have typically longer, leaner builds than Gray wolf populations the further north/colder the climate you go. They get stouter and stockier in build as the climate gets colder. I actually learned about this in biology long before I ever even connected it with humans. It's called Allen's rule:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen%27s_rule

I gotcha, i think it's even true amongst robots and android life forms, check this white guy out:

http://www.filmandtvnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Baymax.jpg

almost all body

Lol I think there is some truth to what you say though, be interested in checking out the actual statistics. I mean tehre's a great deal of difference in bodytype even among people in africa, african americans tend to all originated from a specific part of west africa so their bodytype is not at all representative of africans as a whole.

abuC
03-07-2015, 07:17 PM
CavsFTW must be Lazeruss or Jlauber. He goes to great lengths to defend those Wilt myths. :lol


It's pathetic, according to CavsFTL Wilt had larger arms than guys who are loaded up on roids/HGH and have dedicated their lives to lifting weights and look grotesque as a result.

ThePhantomCreep
03-07-2015, 07:21 PM
Another lie created to prop up Wilt. :roll:
What next ?
Wilt's dick was 20 inches ?
He could squat 2000 pounds ?
Wilt had 3 point range ?
Come on lads lets hear them.

I'm still shocked people think Wilt benched 500lbs. :lol

That's what this guy benched for 4-5 clean reps:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1PZTbGqjAfQ/hqdefault.jpg

SyRyanYang
03-07-2015, 07:23 PM
This is equivalent to that Jordan stan defending his d1ick size.
Cringe worthy:wtf:
How's OP still green again?

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 07:23 PM
CavsFTW must be Lazeruss or Jlauber. He goes to great lengths to defend those Wilt myths. :lol
I go through no more length than people that hunt for ways to discredit them.

I think it's pointless sometimes as they usually have less of a handle on what they're talking about than I do. To the degree these people get unnecessarily defensive/dismissive about it. The goalpost always moves further back, and when I provide an explanation it gets scoffed at and nobody learns anything from it.

Bottom line in this thread. Every person who's been brought up in comparison to Wilt has not actually measured up to Wilt. He's a 7-1 person with a 7-8 armspan. There is no one I know, to have existed that compares to that short of Shaq, who is CLOSE at 7-0 with a 7-7 armspan.

You can't post random body builders, strong men, etc ranging in height from 5-11 (lmfao) to 6-9. Nor can you post actors who range in height up to 7-0. They are still not built like Wilt, 7-1 more importantly with that 7-8 armspan.

It's pretty simple, someone who's ultimately longer/bigger. He's still going to be bigger than many people who look relatively so.

abuC
03-07-2015, 07:25 PM
I go through no more length than people that hunt for ways to discredit them.

I think it's pointless sometimes as they usually have less of a handle on what they're talking about than I do. To the degree these people get unnecessarily defensive/dismissive about it. The goalpost always moves further back, and when I provide an explanation it gets scoffed at and nobody learns anything from it.

Bottom line in this thread. Every person who's been brought up in comparison to Wilt has not actually measured up to Wilt. He's a 7-1 person with a 7-8 armspan. There is no one I know, to have existed that compares to that short of Shaq, who is CLOSE at 7-0 with a 7-7 armspan.

You can't post random body builders, strong men, etc ranging in height from 5-11 (lmfao) to 6-9. Nor can you post actors who range in height up to 7-0. They are still not built like Wilt, with that 7-8 armspan.

It's pretty simple, someone who's ultimately longer/bigger. He's still going to be bigger than many people who look relatively so.


You still won't answer what arm length has to do with peak bicep height :roll:

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 07:32 PM
You still won't answer what arm length has to do with peak bicep height :roll:
I must've addressed it a dozen times in this thread.

An arm that is longer can look relatively less filled out yet still be ultimately bigger around than an arm that is shorter.

Does that really not make sense to you?

SyRyanYang
03-07-2015, 07:34 PM
I must've addressed it a dozen times in this thread.

An arm that is longer can look relatively less filled out yet still be ultimately bigger around than an arm that is shorter.

Does that really not make sense to you?

Yeah I can agree on that part, still doesn't mean Wilt had 23" arms.

abuC
03-07-2015, 07:38 PM
I must've addressed it a dozen times in this thread.

An arm that is longer can look relatively less filled out yet still be ultimately bigger around than an arm that is shorter.

Does that really not make sense to you?


Thank you for proving you know nothing about this subject, I just wanted to quote this to show how out of it you really are. You're talking about arm size when the bicep is not flexed, the problem is this thread is about a flexed arm, and in the first post you have a picture of Wilt flexing. This is how arm size is measured :

http://www.ebicep.com/images/measure.gif

Arm length is irrelevant at that point, when you flex you're measuring the peak height of the bicep. Either the peak height is XYZ or it's not, how long your arms are doesn't matter at that point.

So this is actually even worse than I thought, you believe that Wilt's unflexed arms were 23"....which is completely impossible :roll:

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 07:44 PM
Yeah I can agree on that part, still doesn't mean Wilt had 23" arms.
I also agree.

And posting pictures of other athletes that don't measure up doesn't mean he didn't.

Agree?

I provided a piece of evidence to suggest he did. That article. Take it as a fabrication, misquote, an exaggeration, or at face value. It doesn't matter. It's still more valid than scrutinizing pictures of athletes that literally don't measure up as fuel for doubt.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 07:58 PM
Thank you for proving you know nothing about this subject, I just wanted to quote this to show how out of it you really are. You're talking about arm size when the bicep is not flexed, the problem is this thread is about a flexed arm, and in the first post you have a picture of Wilt flexing. This is how arm size is measured :

http://www.ebicep.com/images/measure.gif

Arm length is irrelevant at that point, when you flex you're measuring the peak height of the bicep. Either the peak height is XYZ or it's not, how long your arms are doesn't matter at that point.

So this is actually even worse than I thought, you believe that Wilt's unflexed arms were 23"....which is completely impossible :roll:
I'm addressing the illusion of short arms looking more volumous than longer arms of the same or greater size around. I'm addressing the illusion. You know, because people in here posting pictures of guys with ultimately smaller arms that "look bigger" and they think they're on to something?

This is a guy with 20 inch biceps:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/sooty/images/6/6f/GeoffCapes.jpg

http://www.theworldsstrongestman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/1983.jpg

He's 6-6 was long armed and on top of that didn't have a lot of definition. Find some other people with 20" biceps, let's get some 5-11 dudes with 19" biceps into the picture mix. I bet they'll "look bigger" than that guy.

Doesn't mean they are though. You follow? Or still no?

coin24
03-07-2015, 08:01 PM
Cavsftw has to be trolling:lol

There is no way in hell he believes wilt had 23" arms, look at all the pics of wilt, tall skinny dweeb.
No tris, no chest etc.. Just long skinny arms and legs..

How can you compare that to professional bodybuilders:roll: :roll:

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 08:05 PM
Cavsftw has to be trolling:lol

There is no way in hell he believes wilt had 23" arms, look at all the pics of wilt, tall skinny dweeb.
No tris, no chest etc.. Just long skinny arms and legs..

How can you compare that to professional bodybuilders:roll: :roll:
6-6 guy, measured 20" biceps

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/sooty/images/6/6f/GeoffCapes.jpg

http://www.theworldsstrongestman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/1983.jpg

7-1 guy with 7-8 upper body span claims he has 23" biceps

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JCc8JFbQOpw/VPtGIfIAcFI/AAAAAAAAFu0/0crhnxu0g4I/s800/wilt80%2527s.jpg

Sorry, where is all this heavy doubt coming from again?

mehyaM24
03-07-2015, 08:06 PM
Cavsftw has to be trolling:lol

There is no way in hell he believes wilt had 23" arms, look at all the pics of wilt, tall skinny dweeb.
No tris, no chest etc.. Just long skinny arms and legs..

How can you compare that to professional bodybuilders:roll: :roll:
LOL

cavsftw doesn't believe in ghosts or aliens, but every wilt tall tale he will accept. no questions asked.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 08:07 PM
cavsftw doesn't believe in ghosts or aliens, but every wilt tall tale he will accept. no questions asked LOL
Incorrect.

I'm just quick to point out the stupidity in some of the criticisms/doubt.

For example, citing pics of 5-11 body builders as a source of legitimate doubt :facepalm

navy
03-07-2015, 08:08 PM
8 pages. Who cares.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 08:13 PM
8 pages. Who cares.
Didn't have to be, could have been 1 or 2. People could have actually read the article taken something from it. Instead we have 5 or 6 expert body builders in here posting pictures of 5-11 Ronnie Colemen as they attempt to prove 23 inch biceps on Wilt couldn't be possible. Just another day on ISH.

alenleomessi
03-07-2015, 08:14 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8q8o0Qg9P1r31jjho1_500.jpg


23 inch

http://cdn.sortanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Laugh-Arnold-internetjedi.org_.gif

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 08:15 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8q8o0Qg9P1r31jjho1_500.jpg


23 inch

http://cdn.sortanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Laugh-Arnold-internetjedi.org_.gif
Certainly not as a rookie. Nobody is arguing that, straw man gonna straw man. I'm just gonna spam this post from here on out:

6-6 guy, measured 20" biceps

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/sooty/images/6/6f/GeoffCapes.jpg

http://www.theworldsstrongestman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/1983.jpg

7-1 guy with 7-8 upper body span claims he has 23" biceps

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JCc8JFbQOpw/VPtGIfIAcFI/AAAAAAAAFu0/0crhnxu0g4I/s800/wilt80%2527s.jpg

Sorry, where is all this heavy doubt coming from again?

abuC
03-07-2015, 08:19 PM
I'm addressing the illusion of short arms looking more volumous than longer arms of the same or greater size around. I'm addressing the illusion. You know, because people in here posting pictures of guys with ultimately smaller arms that "look bigger" and they think they're on to something?

This is a guy with 20 inch biceps:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/sooty/images/6/6f/GeoffCapes.jpg

http://www.theworldsstrongestman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/1983.jpg

He's 6-6 was long armed and on top of that didn't have a lot of definition. Find some other people with 20" biceps, let's get some 5-11 dudes with 19" biceps into the picture mix. I bet they'll "look bigger" than that guy.

Doesn't mean they are though. You follow? Or still no?


LMAO, you are pathetic man, why are you posting pictures of Wilt's unflexed arm when we have this?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LbEEU6UgeTo/UG4SO9WTFTI/AAAAAAAAI_w/U8TLJSn8xPM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+Arnold+Andr%C3%A9+The+Giant.bmp

For the last time, you have no clue what you're talking about, we have a clear picture of Wilt flexing at a time he was supposedly the biggest he'd ever been in his life.

Geoff Capes "biceps" weren't 20", his arms were and that's the result of carrying a lot of body fat. This guy probably has a 20" arm:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/29/article-2240318-16454A2F000005DC-942_233x423.jpg

Fat people and people with high body fat have large arms. You don't even know the difference between arm diameter and peak bicep size :roll: The fact you continue to dig the hole deeper and deeper is why I'm replying, because you look so delusional it's a joke to me. I'm assuming you have a membership at Planet Fitness?

abuC
03-07-2015, 08:25 PM
Didn't have to be, could have been 1 or 2. People could have actually read the article taken something from it. Instead we have 5 or 6 expert body builders in here posting pictures of 5-11 Ronnie Colemen as they attempt to prove 23 inch biceps on Wilt couldn't be possible. Just another day on ISH.

Your arguments are stupid to be honest, I just enjoy watching you jump through hoops to prove Wilt can do the impossible.


PS. It would be easier for the 5'11" guy on roids to hit 20+" peak biceps than the 7 footer, but don't let logic get in the way of things.

HomieWeMajor
03-07-2015, 08:30 PM
CavsFTW you my brother from another but you need to take this L and move on. None of us will think any less of you.

alenleomessi
03-07-2015, 08:36 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LbEEU6UgeTo/UG4SO9WTFTI/AAAAAAAAI_w/U8TLJSn8xPM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+Arnold+Andr%C3%A9+The+Giant.bmp


thread should have been closed the minute OP destroyed himself with this photo :oldlol:



here is a good comparison

http://uk.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2012931/reg_1024.JBieber.mh.103112.jpg

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 08:38 PM
Your arguments are stupid to be honest, I just enjoy watching you jump through hoops to prove Wilt can do the impossible.


PS. It would be easier for the 5'11" guy on roids to hit 20+" peak biceps than the 7 footer, but don't let logic get in the way of things.
There's no hoop jumping, and I'm not proving anything. I'm exposing your sources of doubt for what they are, nonsensical.

The best thing you can say is "I don't believe him/I doubt his claim because he's the one who said it."

Case closed. I'd say. Fair enough. Wilt is a known exaggerator.

Instead you keep driveling on posting pics of 5-11 guys, 6-9 guys, fat guys ripped guys etc, trying to analyze photographs to provide doubt and using photographs. It's nonsense.

No photograph of a person who doesn't have a 7-1 body and 7-8 armspan is going to prove that Wilt didn't have what he claimed, a 23 inch bicep. You can doubt the claim, that's all you can doubt. Photographs, w/e else you post, it's nonsense.

Keep blabbering on your nonsense. I'll keep exposing it for what it is. You're only making yourself look foolish.

Asukal
03-07-2015, 08:39 PM
Add 23" biceps to Wilt's long list of legendary feats. :applause:

It's funny that despite all of Wiltcules' incredible tales of impossible badassery, he failed to do what is possible (like winning more than 2 rings? :confusedshrug: ). :roll:

ThePhantomCreep
03-07-2015, 08:46 PM
We need to dwell on this 500lbs bench more. The pic with Arnold and Andre CLEARLY shows sub-23 inch arms on Wilt. Debate over :facepalm

Notice Arnold's chest is much larger than Wilt's. That's from a man who dedicated a huge portion of his life to strength training. Well, even he couldn't bench 500lbs, not even at his Olympia peak. Arnold topped out at 405lbs IIRC. Wilt and his crazy long arms would get crushed trying to bench that.

You guys post some pretty informative stuff on Wilt, but please, stop with all the tall tales. It undermines your good posts. Y'all on some Pecos Bill shit right now.

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 08:51 PM
We need to dwell on this 500lbs bench more. The pic with Arnold and Andre CLEARLY shows sub-23 inch arms on Wilt. Debate over :facepalm

Notice Arnold's chest is much larger than Wilt's. That's from a man who dedicate a huge portion of his life to strength training. Well, even he couldn't bench 500lbs, not even at his Olympia peak. Arnold topped out at 405lbs IIRC. Wilt and his crazy long arms would get crushed trying to bench that.

You guys post some pretty informative stuff on Wilt, but please, stop with all the tall tales. It undermines your good posts. Y'all on some Pecos Bill shit right now.
I'll continue to post all of the information surrounding him. Because it would be dishonest not to. I'm not going to put a filter on it. You guys can conclude what you wish.

However, it is retarded to think any image in here CLEARLY shows anything.

People used to think the guy was 225lbs on ISH. From the same kind of nonsensical photograph analysis.

Sorry but far more surrounding him has turned out to be likely/true than it has untrue/unlikely. I take anything I hear out of his mouth and his mouth only with a grain of salt. But let's be real, most of you guys err on the side of ridiculous doubt. Like I said, I'm just going to post the data, the articles, the film. If you guys choose to doubt any of it, great, but collectively, your guys reasoning is usually pretty awful. As trolling usually is, only surface deep. Showcased in this thread filled with people doubting Wilt's bicep size by analyzing photographs of 5-11 to 6-9 bodybuilders and actors as if they physically are/were similar to Wilt when quite clearly they weren't.

OldSchoolBBall
03-07-2015, 08:58 PM
We need to dwell on this 500lbs bench more. The pic with Arnold and Andre CLEARLY shows sub-23 inch arms on Wilt. Debate over :facepalm

Notice Arnold's chest is much larger than Wilt's. That's from a man who dedicate a huge portion of his life to strength training. Well, even he couldn't bench 500lbs, not even at his Olympia peak. Arnold topped out at 405lbs IIRC. Wilt and his crazy long arms would get crushed trying to bench that.

You guys post some pretty informative stuff on Wilt, but please, stop with all the tall tales. It undermines your good posts. Y'all on some Pecos Bill shit right now.

Pretty sure Arnold himself said he SAW Wilt benchpress 500 pounds. In the video posted earlier, Arnold says that Wilt would come in and do 150-170 pound tricep extensions while guys like him were doing around 120.

abuC
03-07-2015, 09:04 PM
There's no hoop jumping, and I'm not proving anything. I'm exposing your sources of doubt for what they are, nonsensical.

The best thing you can say is "I don't believe him/I doubt his claim because he's the one who said it."

Case closed. I'd say. Fair enough. Wilt is a known exaggerator.

Instead you keep driveling on posting pics of 5-11 guys, 6-9 guys, fat guys ripped guys etc, trying to analyze photographs to provide doubt and using photographs. It's nonsense.

No photograph of a person who doesn't have a 7-1 body and 7-8 armspan is going to prove that Wilt didn't have what he claimed, a 23 inch bicep. You can doubt the claim, that's all you can doubt. Photographs, w/e else you post, it's nonsense.

Keep blabbering on your nonsense. I'll keep exposing it for what it is. You're only making yourself look foolish.


:roll:

I posted a 7 footer that had bigger peak biceps than Wilt :


http://bigdonsboys.com/bodybuilders/conan_stevens/page_3/images/conan_stevens_dbl_biceps.jpg


And you're so delusional you think these arms are bigger

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LbEEU6UgeTo/UG4SO9WTFTI/AAAAAAAAI_w/U8TLJSn8xPM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+Arnold+Andr%C3%A9+The+Giant.bmp

You keep quoting arm length in relation to peak bicep size because you're clueless, how have you "exposed" me :roll: I know what I'm talking about because I actually lift and have lifted for years now, you actually believe natural 23" biceps on a 7 footer is possible, when nobody else on the planet with arms that size has done it without gear.

plowking
03-07-2015, 09:12 PM
Seriously, I remember LAZ and CavsFTW arguing Wilt was clean and jerking a certain amount of weight back in the day, and someone actually looked up the world record at the time and Wilt was only 5lbs off it or something. :oldlol:

You guys are deluded when it comes to Wilt. :oldlol:

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 09:12 PM
:roll:

I posted a 7 footer that had bigger peak biceps than Wilt :


http://bigdonsboys.com/bodybuilders/conan_stevens/page_3/images/conan_stevens_dbl_biceps.jpg


And you're so delusional you think these arms are bigger

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LbEEU6UgeTo/UG4SO9WTFTI/AAAAAAAAI_w/U8TLJSn8xPM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+Arnold+Andr%C3%A9+The+Giant.bmp

You keep quoting arm length in relation to peak bicep size because you're clueless, how have you "exposed" me :roll: I know what I'm talking about because I actually lift and have lifted for years now, you actually believe natural 23" biceps on a 7 footer is possible, when nobody else on the planet with arms that size has done it without gear.
Again drivel.

Doubt Wilt had 23 inch biceps because he said so? Fair.

Doubt Wilt had 23 inch biceps because you can't seem to find any pictures of other athletes that size up to him? Hurr durr. Guess how many athletes size up to him? Closest 7 footer that compared to him is Shaq, 7-0 and 7-7 armspan. Wilt was 7-1 with a 7-8 armspan. Most 7 footers don't have the length of Shaq or Wilt. It's really freaking rare.

By statistics that guy is most likely rocking an armspan the same as his height. I already pointed out why.

Got any other photographs for us to analyze AbuC? Or are you going to continue to post pictures as if they are "proof" of anything :oldlol:

Maybe post another fat guy for us and explain for us once more how fat is "arm size" not "bicep size" hurr durr

deja vu
03-07-2015, 09:16 PM
The reason why people keep bashing Wilt is because of stupid myths like this.

- 500 lb. benchpress
- free throw line dunk
- 50 inch vertical
- 20,000 women banged

Now this 23" biceps BS. :lol

All those myths are probably concocted to distract from Wilt's playoff failures and choking. :roll:

Budadiiii
03-07-2015, 09:27 PM
Wilt was the LeBron of his era. Had every single physical advantage but had no competitive spirit at all. A losers personality.

inclinerator
03-07-2015, 09:32 PM
shaq had 20 inch biceps/fatceps

wilt's arms aren't bigger

http://images.agoramedia.com/shaq/cms/publicsite/gallery/large/1_02.jpg

CavaliersFTW
03-07-2015, 09:33 PM
shaq had 20 inch biceps/fatceps

wilt's arms aren't bigger

http://images.agoramedia.com/shaq/cms/publicsite/gallery/large/1_02.jpg
They look bigger to me

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LbEEU6UgeTo/UG4SO9WTFTI/AAAAAAAAI_w/U8TLJSn8xPM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+Arnold+Andr%C3%A9+The+Giant.bmp

BTW can you cite that? There's been all sorts of numbers thrown around in this thread, most of them when I looked them up turned out to be untrue (someone citing Ronnie Coleman having 20 inch biceps or something, I found out they were actually 24, etc)

tpols
03-07-2015, 09:37 PM
They look bigger to me

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LbEEU6UgeTo/UG4SO9WTFTI/AAAAAAAAI_w/U8TLJSn8xPM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+Arnold+Andr%C3%A9+The+Giant.bmp

BTW can you cite that? There's been all sorts of numbers thrown around in this thread, most of them when I looked them up turned out to be untrue (someone citing Ronnie Coleman having 20 inch biceps or something, I found out they were actually 24, etc)

Andre the giant looks like he was way bigger than both.. look at his damn head and core.. it's like twice the size of wilts peanut head:roll:

SugarHill
03-07-2015, 09:39 PM
The reason why people keep bashing Wilt is because of stupid myths like this.

- 500 lb. benchpress
- free throw line dunk
- 50 inch vertical
- 20,000 women banged

Now this 23" biceps BS. :lol

All those myths are probably concocted to distract from Wilt's playoff failures and choking. :roll:

ranking them from most ridiculous to least ridiculous

50 vert :whatever:
20000 women
23" biceps
mountain lion

ArbitraryWater
03-07-2015, 09:51 PM
:roll:

I posted a 7 footer that had bigger peak biceps than Wilt :


http://bigdonsboys.com/bodybuilders/conan_stevens/page_3/images/conan_stevens_dbl_biceps.jpg


And you're so delusional you think these arms are bigger

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LbEEU6UgeTo/UG4SO9WTFTI/AAAAAAAAI_w/U8TLJSn8xPM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+Arnold+Andr%C3%A9+The+Giant.bmp

You keep quoting arm length in relation to peak bicep size because you're clueless, how have you "exposed" me :roll: I know what I'm talking about because I actually lift and have lifted for years now, you actually believe natural 23" biceps on a 7 footer is possible, when nobody else on the planet with arms that size has done it without gear.

Tbh Wilt's might be bigger

Also, the bodybuilder's is is right post-workout, blood flowing, peak bigness, with close-up, meanwhile Wilt casually flexes in mid-day from wider away, and honestly it already looks equally big.

coin24
03-07-2015, 09:53 PM
ranking them from most ridiculous to least ridiculous

50 vert :whatever:
20000 women
23" biceps
mountain lion


In reality it's probably 50 women to cover the fact he loved BBC
Definitely no pus5ies slayed though, more like some candle lit drake shit, he probably lies stomach down biting that pillow calling out I'm ready:oldlol:

tpols
03-07-2015, 09:56 PM
:roll:

I posted a 7 footer that had bigger peak biceps than Wilt :


http://bigdonsboys.com/bodybuilders/conan_stevens/page_3/images/conan_stevens_dbl_biceps.jpg


And you're so delusional you think these arms are bigger

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LbEEU6UgeTo/UG4SO9WTFTI/AAAAAAAAI_w/U8TLJSn8xPM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+Arnold+Andr%C3%A9+The+Giant.bmp

You keep quoting arm length in relation to peak bicep size because you're clueless, how have you "exposed" me :roll: I know what I'm talking about because I actually lift and have lifted for years now, you actually believe natural 23" biceps on a 7 footer is possible, when nobody else on the planet with arms that size has done it without gear.

Thing about these pictures is that white guy is a close up self ie enough that you can't even see below his knees so it accentuates his upper body. Where as wilts picture is taken from a distance with even his feet and space in front visible.

If wilt did a close up selfie of himself after working out flexing and that white guy took a back ground pic 15 feet away wilt would also look much bigger.

alenleomessi
03-07-2015, 09:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/C38Ff4H.jpg

OldSchoolBBall
03-07-2015, 10:08 PM
I don't know if I buy the 23" arms claim (or any number of other tales about Wilt), but how do debunkers explain a bodybuilding professional like Arnold saying many times that he personally saw Wilt benchpress 500 pounds, tricep extension 170 pounds (when the strongest guys were only doing 120 according to Arnold) etc.?

I can believe that Wilt had tremendous strength more than any of the other claims. When I saw him pick up a grown man and wave him around like he was a piece of paper (no, it doesn't matter that the dude is like 160 pounds - that's live weight, and Wilt doesn't even FLEX his back or arms to do this. This is amazing imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huF3PFXU-V0

Velocirap31
03-07-2015, 10:08 PM
Why do you care how big a dead man's arms were? Focus on your own.

deja vu
03-07-2015, 10:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/C38Ff4H.jpg
Confirmation that Wilt had 23" biceps. /thread

ThePhantomCreep
03-07-2015, 10:49 PM
Pretty sure Arnold himself said he SAW Wilt benchpress 500 pounds. In the video posted earlier, Arnold says that Wilt would come in and do 150-170 pound tricep extensions while guys like him were doing around 120.

Find me one video of someone as narrow-chested as Wilt benching 500lbs.

Here's Stan Efferding (AKA: World's Stongest Bodybuilder) and his 500lbs bench.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N750rH1c0JA


Notice that:

A) His chest is far more massive than Wilt's.
B) He's also a world class powerlifter, record holder in his weight class.
C) He's juiced to the gills.

Notice how, for all his experience/juicing/central nervous system adaption, he struggles to get 7 reps. Anyone who thinks Wilt could move similar amounts of weight with those long-ass arms and narrow "do you even lift brah" frame is delusional. Arnold was probably bullshitting when he said that. It's not remotely believable.

Asukal
03-07-2015, 10:56 PM
I don't know if I buy the 23" arms claim (or any number of other tales about Wilt), but how do debunkers explain a bodybuilding professional like Arnold saying many times that he personally saw Wilt benchpress 500 pounds, tricep extension 170 pounds (when the strongest guys were only doing 120 according to Arnold) etc.?

I can believe that Wilt had tremendous strength more than any of the other claims. When I saw him pick up a grown man and wave him around like he was a piece of paper (no, it doesn't matter that the dude is like 160 pounds - that's live weight, and Wilt doesn't even FLEX his back or arms to do this. This is amazing imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huF3PFXU-V0

Sure he was strong. Very strong in fact. Not strong enough to win 3 rings tho. :oldlol:

plowking
03-08-2015, 12:58 AM
I don't know if I buy the 23" arms claim (or any number of other tales about Wilt), but how do debunkers explain a bodybuilding professional like Arnold saying many times that he personally saw Wilt benchpress 500 pounds, tricep extension 170 pounds (when the strongest guys were only doing 120 according to Arnold) etc.?

I can believe that Wilt had tremendous strength more than any of the other claims. When I saw him pick up a grown man and wave him around like he was a piece of paper (no, it doesn't matter that the dude is like 160 pounds - that's live weight, and Wilt doesn't even FLEX his back or arms to do this. This is amazing imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huF3PFXU-V0

Plenty of people said Earl Manigault touched the top of the backboard too. I mean a whole bunch of them. Yet, you go ahead and do the match, look at his height, and you see it really isn't close to being true.

Same as Wilt benching 500lbs, same as him essentially holding the world record for the clean and jerk during his time, same as him having a 50 inch vertical, etc.

Out of all these years that Wilt was alive, no one bothered to go watch the "strongest man in the world" bench or workout? Not a single video? There is a reason for that, and it is to protect his image. Bench press isn't even the pinnacle of strength lifts anyway, so it doesn't really matter, but a guy like Wilt doesn't have a shot at lifting it, especially not at a bodyweight of 280lbs.

warriorfan
03-08-2015, 03:53 AM
Thing about these pictures is that white guy is a close up self ie enough that you can't even see below his knees so it accentuates his upper body. Where as wilts picture is taken from a distance with even his feet and space in front visible.

If wilt did a close up selfie of himself after working out flexing and that white guy took a back ground pic 15 feet away wilt would also look much bigger.

:oldlol: Andre the Giant had an abnormal pituitary gland that caused his giganticism. Wilt was comparable in size with out that abnormality. If wilt had the same disorder he probably would of been 10 feet tall but he would of been robbed of all his athletic talents.

oarabbus
03-08-2015, 04:12 AM
http://i.imgur.com/C38Ff4H.jpg


:roll:



According to Cav's "longer limbs are much bigger without looking defined" theory, Robert Wadlow must have had 25-28" biceps at least without ever having set foot in a gym. Dude was 1' 10" taller than Wilt (he grew to 8'11" and was still growing at the time of his death). If the arms theory is true, then Wadlow, at nearly 2' taller than Wilt Chamberlain, would have made Wilt look absolutely pathetic. According to Cavs' own topic, Wilt had a pedestrian size 16 shoe. Wadlow had custom made size 36s. Here's his shoe next to a size 12:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Wadlow_shoe_compared.jpg/220px-Wadlow_shoe_compared.jpg

Cavs was trying to make a point about wingspan and bicep size - Wadlow had an ABSOLUTELY ABSURD 9.5" wingspan (even though he was white), and Wilt was really just a fcking midget t-rex compared to this man. His hands were also almost 2" longer and wider than Wilt's; were they to shake hands, Wadlow's hands would absolutely devour Chamberlain's.

It turns out that Wadlow had to use a walking cane as a result of his great height, but his body was proportional. And were he alive today it would be likely modern medicine would allow him to be fully ambulatory. It's safe to say, were Wadlow alive today, he would have killed 1.5 mountain lions with his bare hands, been able to dunk on a 13 foot rim, average 14 blocks a game, and have slept with 30,000+ women. The ratios all work out.

His arms would have truly dwarfed Wilt's to an embarrassing degree. Wadlow was taller than Wilt by a greater difference than Wilt was taller than Nate Robinson or Muggsy Bogues :roll:

http://i.imgur.com/hQw7S9T.jpg

deja vu
03-08-2015, 04:59 AM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JCc8JFbQOpw/VPtGIfIAcFI/AAAAAAAAFu0/0crhnxu0g4I/s800/wilt80%2527s.jpg

Wilt close to the time of the article in the OP
That is nowhere near 23" unless Wilt's taller than 8 feet. :lol

warriorfan
03-08-2015, 05:25 AM
:roll:



According to Cav's "longer limbs are much bigger without looking defined" theory, Robert Wadlow must have had 25-28" biceps at least without ever having set foot in a gym. Dude was 1' 10" taller than Wilt (he grew to 8'11" and was still growing at the time of his death). If the arms theory is true, then Wadlow, at nearly 2' taller than Wilt Chamberlain, would have made Wilt look absolutely pathetic. According to Cavs' own topic, Wilt had a pedestrian size 16 shoe. Wadlow had custom made size 36s. Here's his shoe next to a size 12:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Wadlow_shoe_compared.jpg/220px-Wadlow_shoe_compared.jpg

Cavs was trying to make a point about wingspan and bicep size - Wadlow had an ABSOLUTELY ABSURD 9.5" wingspan (even though he was white), and Wilt was really just a fcking midget t-rex compared to this man. His hands were also almost 2" longer and wider than Wilt's; were they to shake hands, Wadlow's hands would absolutely devour Chamberlain's.

It turns out that Wadlow had to use a walking cane as a result of his great height, but his body was proportional. And were he alive today it would be likely modern medicine would allow him to be fully ambulatory. It's safe to say, were Wadlow alive today, he would have killed 1.5 mountain lions with his bare hands, been able to dunk on a 13 foot rim, average 14 blocks a game, and have slept with 30,000+ women. The ratios all work out.

His arms would have truly dwarfed Wilt's to an embarrassing degree. Wadlow was taller than Wilt by a greater difference than Wilt was taller than Nate Robinson or Muggsy Bogues :roll:

http://i.imgur.com/hQw7S9T.jpg

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

AirFederer
03-08-2015, 05:40 AM
Not about his biceps but still interesting...

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah267/espelid/5ED78B6E-5914-4D27-94A2-7D792D2DEBE8_zpsxraqlkgw.png (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/espelid/media/5ED78B6E-5914-4D27-94A2-7D792D2DEBE8_zpsxraqlkgw.png.html)

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah267/espelid/B60A0784-F831-4524-83A9-01EAD10C9B63_zpsehp5w8tc.png (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/espelid/media/B60A0784-F831-4524-83A9-01EAD10C9B63_zpsehp5w8tc.png.html)

ILLsmak
03-08-2015, 05:47 AM
One thing is for sure, Wilt was jacked as ****. I don't think anyone can argue that. It's funny because people cite numbers to prove how athletic or jacked they are, but there is no need with Wilt. He was obviously a beast.

I still don't think he'd be stronger on the block than Shaq, but in terms of weight lifting and sprinting, he's got it.

-Smak

AirFederer
03-08-2015, 05:49 AM
From the mouth of Jerry West

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah267/espelid/E8663806-7B00-43FC-8B04-7B337EABEC1B_zpswcpy4t5k.png (http://s1382.photobucket.com/user/espelid/media/E8663806-7B00-43FC-8B04-7B337EABEC1B_zpswcpy4t5k.png.html)

warriorfan
03-08-2015, 06:25 AM
wilt can eat lots of bbq...interesting







what the hell why is there a bbq pit add on the bottom of my screen right now...this shizz be crazy

kshutts1
03-08-2015, 07:11 AM
In this thread...

People don't understand perspective
Body builders don't know that not all strength is "visible" (I look strong as hell. I'm not).
ISH
CavsFTW

Fun read, though, while I sipped vodka. I may be single tomorrow when my girl wakes me up to learn I had only gotten 2-3 hours of sleep, though, and can't stay awake for her b-day celebrations...

dunksby
03-08-2015, 07:52 AM
Seriously, I remember LAZ and CavsFTW arguing Wilt was clean and jerking a certain amount of weight back in the day, and someone actually looked up the world record at the time and Wilt was only 5lbs off it or something. :oldlol:

You guys are deluded when it comes to Wilt. :oldlol:
If you mean the bench press, I was the one who looked up the world record at that time, it's crazy how people can cling such myths in 2015.

dubeta
03-08-2015, 08:19 AM
Bicep size bigger than Finals ppg average

Only Wilt :applause:

La Frescobaldi
03-08-2015, 12:24 PM
:roll:

I posted a 7 footer that had bigger peak biceps than Wilt :


http://bigdonsboys.com/bodybuilders/conan_stevens/page_3/images/conan_stevens_dbl_biceps.jpg


And you're so delusional you think these arms are bigger

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LbEEU6UgeTo/UG4SO9WTFTI/AAAAAAAAI_w/U8TLJSn8xPM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+Arnold+Andr%C3%A9+The+Giant.bmp


You keep quoting arm length in relation to peak bicep size because you're clueless, how have you "exposed" me :roll: I know what I'm talking about because I actually lift and have lifted for years now, you actually believe natural 23" biceps on a 7 footer is possible, when nobody else on the planet with arms that size has done it without gear.
*********************************************
I have no idea about Chamberlain's bicep measurement. But this pair of pictures does not help your case any, in fact you pretty much destroyed yourself.
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First off the picture of that dude on top is a drastically different perspective, and while I know next to nothing about perspective, clearly it is something you know not of.

You're trying to say the guy on top has huger arms than the guys below..... like those pictures are equal in perspective. You at least imply it by not making it clear, which is either deceptive or stupid.
Which means that guy's head is bigger than Arnold's entire torso.
:lol :lol :lol

So let's use something that approaches a constant in both pictures, instead of either deliberately, or stupidly, treating those as the same perspective.
Namely their head.

A 6' tall person has a head that measures about 9 1/2" or 10" top to bottom. So a guy with a bicep that is the same size as a 6 footer's head, is gonna go 20 inches or maybe a little more.

That dude on top (the one who is inside a room on purpose designed to make guys look big so they feel better... and very close to the camera) has an arm - bicep, tricep, bone and all - quite a bit smaller than his head. His bicep is about the same as his head from the top to his mouth. Since he's a 7 footer, that makes for a huge arm because his head is probably 12 inches not 10.

Meanwhile, the Chamberlain picture..... is elongated severely by the greater distance from the camera, by the appearance of being in a hall, by being outside, all of which have enormous impact on perspective.

Chamberlain's arm is very close to the same size as Arnold's head. Arnold Schwarzenegger (without his acting platform shoes), in a gym in the '70s, was just over 6 feet tall.

Which makes Chamberlain's arm measurement 20+ inches in that picture.

SugarHill
03-08-2015, 12:27 PM
:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

Dude was hilariously tall. Remember reading about him as a kid and I never forgot his name. :(

dat head size tho

La Frescobaldi
03-08-2015, 01:18 PM
Dude was hilariously tall. Remember reading about him as a kid and I never forgot his name. :(

dat head size tho

yeah and another thing - his arm is as big as Shaq's head. Which means those guns right there are freaking humongous!!
Which is an example of my point in the post right before yours.

that one dude abuC may lift weights but he doesn't do it with his brain or his eye... both of which - from perspective - are pretty much atrophied.
:lol

jongib369
03-08-2015, 02:27 PM
I don't know if I buy the 23" arms claim (or any number of other tales about Wilt), but how do debunkers explain a bodybuilding professional like Arnold saying many times that he personally saw Wilt benchpress 500 pounds, tricep extension 170 pounds (when the strongest guys were only doing 120 according to Arnold) etc.?

I can believe that Wilt had tremendous strength more than any of the other claims. When I saw him pick up a grown man and wave him around like he was a piece of paper (no, it doesn't matter that the dude is like 160 pounds - that's live weight, and Wilt doesn't even FLEX his back or arms to do this. This is amazing imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huF3PFXU-V0

Where did you see that?

sd3035
03-08-2015, 03:19 PM
wilt was a scrawny wimp who liked to tell stories

Dray n Klay
10-13-2016, 02:20 AM
:roll: :roll:

swagga
10-13-2016, 12:24 PM
this niggga cavsFTL is just begging for channel views :roll:
prolonging the life of this thread just to casually drop some links to his channel :roll:

up next: how wilt showed his dick on a farm to shatter the confidence of an erect horse. only on ish :roll:

Papaya Petee
10-13-2016, 04:02 PM
Once again, anybody that ever spent any time competitively body building in their life would laugh at these old delusional ******s.

Like I said over a year ago,

Prime Arnold, Joey Swoll, Rich Piana, Ronnie Coleman, Phil Health, CT Fletcher did not hit 23 inch ARMS in their prime.

Arm size isn't measured by ****ing biceps. You flex the entire arm and put the measuring tape around it.

Natural arms for the BEST natural body builders in the world peak around 19-20 inches TOPS (Mike O'Hearn is the best natural power bodybuilder in the world and he has around 20s) and his arms are MUCH bigger than Wilt's were.

Guys with 21-22'5 inch arms are generally on lots of Growth, Deca, Test, Tren, DBOL, etc.

A guy who spend half his life doing a high cardio sport has NO CHANCE to develop that size. From those pictures, Wilt had around 17'5s and thats me being generous. Also, height and arm lenght has NOTHING TO DO WITH arm size :roll: ****ing retarded Wilt stans.

AirFederer
10-13-2016, 04:11 PM
One thing: Mike O' Tren is NOT clean.

NZStreetBaller
10-13-2016, 07:01 PM
Taller longer dudes arms just look smaller because of the length. Its called optical illusion. Thats why most of the mr olympians these days are midgets

plowking
10-13-2016, 10:00 PM
Once again, anybody that ever spent any time competitively body building in their life would laugh at these old delusional ******s.

Like I said over a year ago,

Prime Arnold, Joey Swoll, Rich Piana, Ronnie Coleman, Phil Health, CT Fletcher did not hit 23 inch ARMS in their prime.

Arm size isn't measured by ****ing biceps. You flex the entire arm and put the measuring tape around it.

Natural arms for the BEST natural body builders in the world peak around 19-20 inches TOPS (Mike O'Hearn is the best natural power bodybuilder in the world and he has around 20s) and his arms are MUCH bigger than Wilt's were.

Guys with 21-22'5 inch arms are generally on lots of Growth, Deca, Test, Tren, DBOL, etc.

A guy who spend half his life doing a high cardio sport has NO CHANCE to develop that size. From those pictures, Wilt had around 17'5s and thats me being generous. Also, height and arm lenght has NOTHING TO DO WITH arm size :roll: ****ing retarded Wilt stans.

Did you just call Mike O'Hearn natural? :oldlol: :oldlol:

LAZERUSS
10-13-2016, 10:23 PM
I could not care less what size Chamberlain's biceps were. The reality was/is...he has been the strongest man who has ever played in the NBA. And the idiot that claimed that Wilt only had 17.5" arms is a complete moron.

It amazes me how the "bashers" go out of their way to dispute what was commonly KNOWN at the time. That Chamberlain had massive strength, even early in his NBA career, and got much stronger each year after that.

We have none other than Hank Stram claiming a 27 year old Wilt, at 290 lbs, ran a 4.6 40. We have none other than Tex Winter, who was so stunned by watching Wilt routinely dunk FTs, that he headed a commission to ban such "freakish" activity. We have none other than Arnold Schwartzenegger claiming that he was awe-struck by Wilt's staggering strength.

There were MULTIPLE, and RELIABLE, eyewitness accounts of Chamberlain touching the top of the backboard. We have an eyewitness account, in a recorded interview, claiming that a 50+ year old Wilt was easily benching 465 lbs. There are other articles from the mid-60's in which Wilt was benching 400+. There was an author of book on Chamberlain who interviewed a well-known 250 lb. weight-lifter, who was benching 500 lbs, and who worked out with a 50+ year old Wilt, claiming that Wilt was curling 100 lb. dumbells "like you or I would pick up a telephone receiver."

There are YouTube videos in which a 50 year old Wilt looks in FAR better shape than a PEAK Shaq. And Wilt had LEGITIMATE offers to play in the NBA all the way up to age 50!

And having watched a 400 lb. Shaq barely benching 315 lbs, and completely unable to budge 405, I have absolutely NO doubt, that a prime Chamberlain was FAR stronger.

Again, just google Wilt's strength. There are countless links entailing his unfathomable power. And I have said it before, but the NBA would never have allowed Wilt to just overpower his peers. As it was they were enacting "anti-Wilt Rules" throughout his career. Had he been allowed to bloody his opponents with blatant charges and flying elbows, ala Shaq, and they would have been carrying players out in body bags. As it was, Chamberlain threw one punch in his NBA career, and it basically ended the career of the 6-9 250 lb. Clyde Lovellette.

23" inch biceps? Who cares? The strongest man to have ever played in the NBA? No question.

Dray n Klay
10-13-2016, 10:26 PM
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo219/mlalli01/WiltChamberlain19687.jpg


"Strongest player ever" :roll: :roll:


Nice one.





3" WiltCHOKE

LAZERUSS
10-13-2016, 10:31 PM
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo219/mlalli01/WiltChamberlain19687.jpg


"Strongest player ever" :roll: :roll:


Nice one.





3" WiltCHOKE

LOL.

Showing a pic of a young Wilt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU43dTuMuig

BTW, Wilt was taller, longer, stronger, more athletic, and more skilled than Shaq.

Next...

And please don't bring up 3" anything when the entire world witnessed the shrinkage that is LeChoke.

Dray n Klay
10-13-2016, 10:36 PM
Laz, who was stronger in the lower body? (Which is a FAR more accurate representation of basketball strength)


Shaq




or

3" WiltCHOKE?

eliteballer
10-13-2016, 10:42 PM
Ah...early 20's Kareem more than held his own strength-wise with Lakers Wilt.

There's a couple clips of him stuffing Wilt dunk attempts at point blank range.

His hand didn't break..:oldlol:

eliteballer
10-13-2016, 10:45 PM
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo219/mlalli01/WiltChamberlain19687.jpg


"Strongest player ever" :roll: :roll:


Nice one.





3" WiltCHOKE

better pic:

http://www.superiorsportsinv.com/simags/1965si0412.jpg

LAZERUSS
10-13-2016, 10:48 PM
Or this...

http://i44.tinypic.com/347xlw7.jpg

Dray n Klay
10-13-2016, 10:48 PM
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2014/10/anthony-davis-nba-new-orleans-pelicans-media-day-590x900.jpg


Wilt's frame kinda reminds me of current Anthony Davis.




In fact, Anthony Davis might be MORE broad shouldered and filled out than Wilt, especially the younger version.





This myth of Wilt being this strength freak needs to stop

Big164
10-14-2016, 12:33 AM
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-21-2015/bWYe9P.gif


Flexing! while Dunking on some random 7'2 guy.

LAZERUSS
10-14-2016, 12:34 AM
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2014/10/anthony-davis-nba-new-orleans-pelicans-media-day-590x900.jpg


Wilt's frame kinda reminds me of current Anthony Davis.




In fact, Anthony Davis might be MORE broad shouldered and filled out than Wilt, especially the younger version.





This myth of Wilt being this strength freak needs to stop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STXbuXGPdoY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrpmGuCmGnc


I guess ALL of those guys, literally dozens, including none other than Arnold himself, were lying right?



http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm


Host Chris_MSNBC2 says:

This is the transcript from Wilt's online interview from MSNBC

Subject:
From:
Host:
Date: NBA legend Wilt Chamberlain 4-18-97
Chris Donohue (MSNBC)
MSNBC
Mon Nov 24 11:58

M3 says:
Question for Wilt...watched you bench press about 465 lbs like it was a match stick at the Stanford gym when you were working out there for some reason...how much can you still push up?

Host Wilt_Chamberlain says:
Well, probably I can push up a little more than that right now, because I was bench pressing some great weights. I was a shot-putter and lifting weights was a great joy to me. I liked to show off, I don't do that anymore, but I could probably bench press more than 465 pounds now."

Yep...the myth of Wilt being a strength freak.

The man literally pulled the wool over the eyes (eyewitness accounts mind you), of the dozens of coaches in the NBA in his career, and the hundreds of the players that he played with and faced in his career, and the hundreds of reporters who covered him in his career, and the thousands of fans who watched him play in his career.

Pretty amazing.

plowking
10-14-2016, 12:58 AM
There were MULTIPLE, and RELIABLE, eyewitness accounts of Chamberlain touching the top of the backboard. We have an eyewitness account, in a recorded interview, claiming that a 50+ year old Wilt was easily benching 465 lbs. There are other articles from the mid-60's in which Wilt was benching 400+. There was an author of book on Chamberlain who interviewed a well-known 250 lb. weight-lifter, who was benching 500 lbs, and who worked out with a 50+ year old Wilt, claiming that Wilt was curling 100 lb. dumbells "like you or I would pick up a telephone receiver.

There were stories about Jesus doing a whole lot of miraculous feats, supported by many, and witnessed by many.


And having watched a 400 lb. Shaq barely benching 315 lbs, and completely unable to budge 405, I have absolutely NO doubt, that a prime Chamberlain was FAR stronger.


I'm 215lbs and have benched 355lbs for a double. Am I stronger than Shaq? :oldlol:
Your understanding of both body mechanics or strength in general is flawed. I've seen a few dudes lift more than me on the bench, and none of them were over 6 foot. The fact is, the taller you are, the harder it is to bench. You have to be mechanically perfect to bench big weights at a tall height. Wilt isn't even close to mechanically perfect for benching. In fact he is the opposite. His legs are most of his height and has a torso on the shorter side proportionally, while having extremely long arms. That is the definition of a shit build for benching.


Again, just google Wilt's strength. There are countless links entailing his unfathomable power. And I have said it before, but the NBA would never have allowed Wilt to just overpower his peers. As it was they were enacting "anti-Wilt Rules" throughout his career. Had he been allowed to bloody his opponents with blatant charges and flying elbows, ala Shaq, and they would have been carrying players out in body bags. As it was, Chamberlain threw one punch in his NBA career, and it basically ended the career of the 6-9 250 lb. Clyde Lovellette.

Yeah, google it. All you have is tales of people over-exaggerating which was incredibly common. Same thing with Bruce Lee. There are idiots today that actually believe he would whoop everyone in the UFC. I remember people on here actually arguing that Bruce Lee would beat a prime Mike Tyson. :oldlol:
These dudes came along at the right time. The age where nothing really had to be proved, but tales could get out, and legends built upon a whisper or murmur.


23" inch biceps? Who cares? The strongest man to have ever played in the NBA? No question.

There is question. One of the strongest? Sure. When you have the likes of Shaq in the league, and you pretending like it is a clear cut case, then you're the stupid one. You're so incredibly ignorant.

plowking
10-14-2016, 01:03 AM
LOL.

Showing a pic of a young Wilt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU43dTuMuig

BTW, Wilt was taller, longer, stronger, more athletic, and more skilled than Shaq.

Next...

And please don't bring up 3" anything when the entire world witnessed the shrinkage that is LeChoke.

Why post that video?

Shaq comes in chilled, not expecting anything and Wilt comes in trying to prove shit as the old dog that is way past it. :oldlol:

The funny thing is you, claiming to be a rational individual in the argument, using a hand shake as proof of strength. :oldlol:

Big164
10-14-2016, 01:10 AM
Why post that video?

Shaq comes in chilled, not expecting anything and Wilt comes in trying to prove shit as the old dog that is way past it. :oldlol:

The funny thing is you, claiming to be a rational individual in the argument, using a hand shake as proof of strength. :oldlol:
Shaq looked like a total pu$*y in that video. I mean seriously have you ever seen actual nba players do that to shaqs body? Wilt ragdolled him with a simple handshake. At age 60


GOAT just gonna fcking GOAT i guess

LAZERUSS
10-14-2016, 01:12 AM
There were stories about Jesus doing a whole lot of miraculous feats, supported by many, and witnessed by many.



I'm 215lbs and have benched 355lbs for a double. Am I stronger than Shaq? :oldlol:
Your understanding of both body mechanics or strength in general is flawed. I've seen a few dudes lift more than me on the bench, and none of them were over 6 foot. The fact is, the taller you are, the harder it is to bench. You have to be mechanically perfect to bench big weights at a tall height. Wilt isn't even close to mechanically perfect for benching. In fact he is the opposite. His legs are most of his height and has a torso on the shorter side proportionally, while having extremely long arms. That is the definition of a shit build for benching.



Yeah, google it. All you have is tales of people over-exaggerating which was incredibly common. Same thing with Bruce Lee. There are idiots today that actually believe he would whoop everyone in the UFC. I remember people on here actually arguing that Bruce Lee would beat a prime Mike Tyson. :oldlol:
These dudes came along at the right time. The age where nothing really had to be proved, but tales could get out, and legends built upon a whisper or murmur.



There is question. One of the strongest? Sure. When you have the likes of Shaq in the league, and you pretending like it is a clear cut case, then you're the stupid one. You're so incredibly ignorant.

Interesting...

Literally hundreds of eye-witness accounts of Wilt's unfathomable strength, leaping ability, and speed, and many of them by RESPECTED peers...and yet not even ONE legitimate eyewitness account of Chamberlain NOT benching 500+ lbs, or NOT touching the top of the backboard, or failing to dunk from the FT line?

Where are those that played with Chamberlain, or those legitimate first hand accounts, that surely must have witnessed Wilt doing a max bench press, and Chamberlain "only" putting up, say 355 lbs? Where are the many that played with Chamberlain, and that surely must have seen him attempting to touch the top of the backboard, or dunking from the FT, and witnessed him FAILING at it?

And again,...ALL these eyewitness accounts of Wilt performing staggering physical feats...and ALL of them LYING about it?

Wilt was even more remarkable than I thought. He literally convinced THOUSANDS of those that actually SAW him play...to LIE about what they witnessed.

Pretty amazing.

Big164
10-14-2016, 01:16 AM
http://cdn04.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/james-tight/lebron-james-wears-very-tight-pants-05.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/16ga4n.jpg

LAZERUSS
10-14-2016, 01:19 AM
Why post that video?

Shaq comes in chilled, not expecting anything and Wilt comes in trying to prove shit as the old dog that is way past it. :oldlol:

The funny thing is you, claiming to be a rational individual in the argument, using a hand shake as proof of strength. :oldlol:

He would have thrown a peak Shaq around like he was Betty White.

You have refuted NOTHING. So, I can make any claim, as well.

And yes, he was FAR stronger than Shaq.

If there have been any "fables" in these Wilt strength discussions, it was that Shaq was benching 450 lbs. A 400 lb Shaq, only a few years removed from his playing days, struggled with a paltry 315 lbs (which I was easily doing at 200 lbs.) I have lost some strength as the years have gone by, but nothing at that rate.

plowking
10-14-2016, 01:20 AM
Interesting...

Literally hundreds of eye-witness accounts of Wilt's unfathomable strength, leaping ability, and speed, and many of them by RESPECTED peers...and yet not even ONE legitimate eyewitness account of Chamberlain NOT benching 500+ lbs, or NOT touching the top of the backboard, or failing to dunk from the FT line?

Where are those that played with Chamberlain, or those legitimate first hand accounts, that surely must have witnessed Wilt doing a max bench press, and Chamberlain "only" putting up, say 355 lbs? Where are the many that played with Chamberlain, and that surely must have seen him attempting to touch the top of the backboard, or dunking from the FT, and witnessed him FAILING at it?

And again,...ALL these eyewitness accounts of Wilt performing staggering physical feats...and ALL of them LYING about it?

Wilt was even more remarkable than I thought. He literally convinced THOUSANDS of those that actually SAW him play...to LIE about what they witnessed.

Pretty amazing.

You quite literally refuted nothing in my post, but continued to try and put the onus on the people asking for evidence, to provide evidence it isn't. :oldlol:

Do you know how debates work? Because you're losing. :oldlol:

You said he was the worlds strongest man at one point. Yet no one watched him train or ever recorded him. I wonder why?
We can find plenty of footage of other athletes lifting back then, but not a single one of Wilt coming close to a record.

You know a lot of the supporting actors on Pain and Gain said Mark Whalberg can bench 405lbs. I'm talking a lot. Yet not a single video of him coming close. Want to know why? You probably know why. :oldlol:

Eye witness accounts are great. But they mean diddly squat, when not a single one of your feats can be backed up by pure fact. I'm talking, not a single one. Not one, has been recorded or measured in any way.

LAZERUSS
10-14-2016, 01:31 AM
You quite literally refuted nothing in my post, but continued to try and put the onus on the people asking for evidence, to provide evidence it isn't. :oldlol:

Do you know how debates work? Because you're losing. :oldlol:

You said he was the worlds strongest man at one point. Yet no one watched him train or ever recorded him. I wonder why?
We can find plenty of footage of other athletes lifting back then, but not a single one of Wilt coming close to a record.

You know a lot of the supporting actors on Pain and Gain said Mark Whalberg can bench 405lbs. I'm talking a lot. Yet not a single video of him coming close. Want to know why? You probably know why. :oldlol:

Eye witness accounts are great. But they mean diddly squat, when not a single one of your feats can be backed up by pure fact. I'm talking, not a single one. Not one, has been recorded or measured in any way.

I NEVER claimed that Wilt was the strongest man in the world. I HAVE claimed that he was the STRONGEST BASKETBALL player of all time. Having said that, though, HOWARD COSELL commented that Wilt might have been the strongest athlete in the world. Why would he make that claim?

As for this "footage" nonsense...go ahead, find me footage of Jim Brown bench-pressing his max weight. Or give me footage of Bill Russell, who was ranked 7th in the WORLD in the high jump, actually participating in the high jump. Or Bob Hayes 9.1 100 yard dash. Or footage of the MANY 500+ ft homeruns that the 5-11 Mickey Mantle hit.

Oh, other than the feeble 315 lb bench by a 400 fat slob Shaq...provide me the "footage" of Shaq actually bench-pressing anywhere near 400+ lbs.

Hell, Wilt scored 100 points in an NBA game. Where is the "footage" of it? In fact, Chamberlain had 271 career 40+ point NBA games. Please provide me just ONE FULL game of him scoring just 40 points. Surely there must be at least a few, right?

I get so sick-and-tired of these "footage" excuses. There was very LITTLE "footage" of ANY great athlete in the 50's and 60's. BUT, we have do have RESPECTED eyewitness accounts of MANY of these feats. Are we supposed to believe that all of them were just fabricated?

Big164
10-14-2016, 01:34 AM
Eye witness accounts are great. But they mean diddly squat, when not a single one of your feats can be backed up by pure fact. I'm talking, not a single one. Not one, has been recorded or measured in any way.
Wilt made Shaq....SHAQ, look like a Beta male. THats all I need to see really. Chamberlain was from another Universe...

Dray n Klay
10-14-2016, 01:41 AM
Let's be real



3" WiltCHOKE would shrivel up if he ever had to match up against Shaq :oldlol:





23 inch arms ..right



More like 3" sausage

:banana:

LAZERUSS
10-14-2016, 01:44 AM
Let's be real



3" WiltCHOKE would shrivel up if he ever had to match up against Shaq :oldlol:





23 inch arms ..right



More like 3" sausage

:banana:

You are confusing Wilt with LeShrinkage. We KNOW LeTiny's size. The clown showed the entire world what he was "packing."

Big164
10-14-2016, 02:22 AM
Lebrun may have the smallest pecker ever proportion wise. My 3 yeRold whose diaper I change everyday is bigger than him. Lebron has a micro pointer

aj1987
10-14-2016, 05:16 AM
Warriorfag and Lozerus, how sad do your lives actually have to be, to obsess over another mans *****?

Plowking, Lozerus is a person who has probably never even seen the inside of a gym. Literally. Dude has never even seen a single game of basketball in his life or even touched a basketball IRL either.

Big164
10-14-2016, 07:38 AM
Better question is Why are u defending such a small member, Aj1987? What's the point of having 3 rings when you look like an infant from waist to pelvis?

Letiny's shortcomings automatically disqualifies him from Any GOAT talk.

aj1987
10-14-2016, 07:55 AM
Better question is Why are u defending such a small member, Aj1987? What's the point of having 3 rings when you look like an infant from waist to pelvis?

Letiny's shortcomings automatically disqualifies him from Any GOAT talk.
What am I defending? I'm just calling you retards out for obsessing over another mans *****. I always knew you were gay though, warriorfag.

Big164
10-14-2016, 08:08 AM
What am I defending? I'm just calling you retards out for obsessing over another mans *****. I always knew you were gay though, warriorfag.
You are getting very defensive, aj1987. Almost like u and lepecker share a common disfunction.

aj1987
10-14-2016, 09:11 AM
I am getting very defensive, aj1987. Almost like I and chokerlain the mental midget share a common disfunction.
Agreed, warriorfag. :applause: :cheers:

swagga
10-14-2016, 10:42 AM
thread conclusion:

inactive sock accounts come alive as the season is about to start. same customers sporting new alts, but still reeling mentally from that big fat warriors L. This forum never ceases to teach me the full spectrum of human pettiness tbh.

Papaya Petee
10-14-2016, 11:09 AM
Did you just call Mike O'Hearn natural? :oldlol: :oldlol:
He's clearly not, but he won Mr "Natural" or whatever it was.

Also, Wilt did not bench 500 pounds.
I don't think any bodybuilder in the world can bench 500 pounds and if so, they're limited.

Top POWERLIFTERS in the world are the guys who generally are around the 500 LB bench mark. Eric LillieBridge is the #1 powerlifter in the world competes at 308LB and he averages a 500-550 pound bench per meet. That's a guy that devotes his life to 3 things, squat, deadlift and bench.

We're supposed to believe that a Wilt with 17.5 inch arms that competed in a sport with lots of cardio, had way too long of arms to properly bench, and didn't commit to powerlifting can bench 500 pounds?

Good ****ing good at least make a lie realistic.

jongib369
10-14-2016, 12:26 PM
http://assets.atlasobscura.com/article_images/lg/22421/image.jpg

MiseryCityTexas
10-14-2016, 12:30 PM
Theres more to 60s and 70s NBA basketball than just Wilt Chamberlain. Bob Macadoo lead the league in scoring and was regular season MVP during the mid 70s, yet people rarely ever mention him on this message board. :facepalm

LAZERUSS
10-14-2016, 07:17 PM
He's clearly not, but he won Mr "Natural" or whatever it was.

Also, Wilt did not bench 500 pounds.
I don't think any bodybuilder in the world can bench 500 pounds and if so, they're limited.

Top POWERLIFTERS in the world are the guys who generally are around the 500 LB bench mark. Eric LillieBridge is the #1 powerlifter in the world competes at 308LB and he averages a 500-550 pound bench per meet. That's a guy that devotes his life to 3 things, squat, deadlift and bench.

We're supposed to believe that a Wilt with 17.5 inch arms that competed in a sport with lots of cardio, had way too long of arms to properly bench, and didn't commit to powerlifting can bench 500 pounds?

Good ****ing good at least make a lie realistic.

A 6-9 1/2, 260 lb Dwight Howard...with nowhere near the mass that Chamberlain had...

http://www.stack.com/video/2305637272001/dwight-howard-benches-365-pounds

An EASY 365

In any case, makes a 400 lb Fat Shaq's feeble 315 seem pathetic doesn't it?

Makes you wonder what a 310+ prime Chamberlain would have been throwing up, doesn't it?

Papaya Petee
10-14-2016, 07:25 PM
A 6-9 1/2, 260 lb Dwight Howard...with nowhere near the mass that Chamberlain had...

http://www.stack.com/video/2305637272001/dwight-howard-benches-365-pounds

An EASY 365

In any case, makes a 400 lb Fat Shaq's feeble 315 seem pathetic doesn't it?

Makes you wonder what a 310+ prime Chamberlain would have been throwing up, doesn't it?
Do you understand the difference between a 365 bench and a 500 bench?
That's the difference between a 1 REP max of bigger body builders versus world class highest level POWERLIFTERS.

This isn't deadlifts where guys make a jump from 5 to 7 plates in one year or squats. This is the hardest and lowest weight of the 3 powerlifts.

Have you said 405, thats believable. But Wilt is NOT benching 5 plates. Show me a video of him doing 4 plates then we can talk.

Papaya Petee
10-14-2016, 07:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYfjQfV014g

The best powerlifter in the world benching 540 on his top set.
Eric Lilliebridge is the #1 ranked powerlifter in the world and competes in the 308LB class.
So a man who devotes his LIFE to this, only powerlifts, is considered the strongest man in the world benches 540, Wilt the basketball player benched 500? :roll:

Big164
10-14-2016, 07:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYfjQfV014g

The best powerlifter in the world benching 540 on his top set.
Eric Lilliebridge is the #1 ranked powerlifter in the world and competes in the 308LB class.
So a man who devotes his LIFE to this, only powerlifts, is considered the strongest man in the world benches 540, Wilt the basketball player benched 500? :roll:


Chamberlain was a multi-millionaire when he died despite playing in an era where guys made only 30k. I wouldn't put anything past him. The unthinkable is what he specialized in.

pauk
10-14-2016, 07:59 PM
CavsFTW! Where are you? Havent seen you post in a long while. :(

Asukal
10-14-2016, 08:47 PM
No ILt myth can ever change the fact that he only won 2 rings. Stupid ILt stans. :facepalm :hammerhead:

LAZERUSS
10-14-2016, 09:52 PM
Do you understand the difference between a 365 bench and a 500 bench?
That's the difference between a 1 REP max of bigger body builders versus world class highest level POWERLIFTERS.

This isn't deadlifts where guys make a jump from 5 to 7 plates in one year or squats. This is the hardest and lowest weight of the 3 powerlifts.

Have you said 405, thats believable. But Wilt is NOT benching 5 plates. Show me a video of him doing 4 plates then we can talk.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

In that video we see a near scrawny Dwight, who was far smaller than Chamberlain...EASILY benching 365 lbs. EASILY. He actually did THREE reps. Judging from that footage, and my own experience...you ask Dwight to give everything he's got, for ONE REP, and he would probably have been capable of nearly 400 lbs.

Interesting too, that SI ran an article in 1964 in which they claimed that Wilt could EASILY bench 400 lbs. This was about a 290 lb Chamberlain (he actually was up to as much as 320 in the 60's), and in his mid-20's. He became much bigger after that. By the early 70's Chamberlain was easily 310+. And speaking of the early 70's...the steroid Steelers offensive line, all of whom weighed LESS than Wilt were supposedly doing 500+.

In any case, if a 260 lb. Dwight was capable of close to a 400 MAX, and it would appear he was...then a 310+ Chamberlain would have been pushing somewhere around 475. Of course, there happens to be a live interview with Chamberlain, in which the interviewer mentions that he witnessed Wilt benching 465. Chamberlain responded that he had done more.

BUT, since it was Wilt, it can't be true, right? Obviously Arnold was lying about Wilt's staggering strength, as well. Just as all of those eyewitness accounts in the two videos I posted were. Chamberlain was pulling the wool over the eyes of literally THOUSANDS with these "Wilt Myths", right? Tex Winter claiming that he witnessed Wilt dunking his FTs (yes, plural.) Sonny Hill, Monte Johnson, and longtime Sixers trainer Al Domenico witnessed Wilt touching the top of the backboard. LIARS...all of them.

And again...this "footage" nonsense. Show me footage of Wilt's 100 point game. Hell, show me complete footage from just ONE of his 271 40+ point games. If you can't do something as simple as that, then don't expect me to find "footage" of Wilt benching 500 lbs. We don't have "footage" of MANY of the great athletic accomplishments of the 50's and 60's...but you would expect someone to follow Wilt around for 24 hours a day and flasing pics with his cell phone, right?

You can spout all the nonsense you want about what YOU believe. I'll just go with the DOZENS, HUNDREDS, and even THOUSANDS of the eyewitness accounts of Chamberlain's physical feats. Hell, at the time no one gave what Chamberlain accomplished much thought. It was ROUTINE back then.

julizaver
10-15-2016, 02:05 AM
http://www.google.bg/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.tinypic.com%2F25pqs lt.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.insidehoops.com%2Fforum %2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D236610%26page%3D7&docid=yVCPFgBdxqCBuM&tbnid=u_-Y3kWOhEPj7M%3A&w=539&h=594&client=safari&bih=729&biw=1024&ved=0ahUKEwievsjQiNzPAhXDwBQKHbi3BcI4yAEQMwg0KDIwM g&iact=mrc&uact=8

I also doubt it, but when see some photos of Arnold and Wilt together, I could accept that their biceps are about equal in size, Wilt so much bigger as a human bein that it is not so impossible.

LAZERUSS
10-15-2016, 02:16 AM
http://www.google.bg/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.tinypic.com%2F25pqs lt.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.insidehoops.com%2Fforum %2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D236610%26page%3D7&docid=yVCPFgBdxqCBuM&tbnid=u_-Y3kWOhEPj7M%3A&w=539&h=594&client=safari&bih=729&biw=1024&ved=0ahUKEwievsjQiNzPAhXDwBQKHbi3BcI4yAEQMwg0KDIwM g&iact=mrc&uact=8

I also doubt it, but when see some photos of Arnold and Wilt together, I could accept that their biceps are about equal in size, Wilt so much bigger as a human bein that it is not so impossible.

Agreed.

And welcome back.

LAZERUSS
10-15-2016, 02:22 AM
Theres more to 60s and 70s NBA basketball than just Wilt Chamberlain. Bob Macadoo lead the league in scoring and was regular season MVP during the mid 70s, yet people rarely ever mention him on this message board. :facepalm

McAdoo was running away with scoring titles in a league with a prime Kareem.

julizaver
10-15-2016, 02:28 AM
Agreed.

And welcome back.

https://youtu.be/ljpxUVqcKxs

Look at Wilt's huge arms at 4:45 - 4:46. Compare them to the head of the other guy.

aj1987
10-15-2016, 04:41 AM
Well, Lozerus have never even been within 10 miles of a gym and it's quite obvious.

Why do you even do this, dude? You've never been to a gym, you've never watched a game of basketball, and heck, you've never even touched a basketball. What's with your retarded obsession?

Papaya Petee
10-24-2016, 11:58 PM
https://s9.postimg.org/b2eeiqye7/0_wilt_chamberlain_4.jpg

Bigger arms than Arnold though! :roll: