Dallas Mavs first round exit. Since the acquision of Rondo , this team Sucks!!!

[imnew09]

Rondo isnt doing them anything good as thiis team flat out sucks. They would be lucky to make it to the playoff if they didnt have a head start.

First round exit for sure and cant till to see Rondo in my Lakers uniform!

[You Cant Ban Me]

Dude is a flat out cancer on that team never would of thought it.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Rondo's is in this weird position as a player tbh..

he's a great talent with supreme talent and is probably the best passer in the league, great rebounder, great defender from what I remember

but he's at his best with the ball in his hands making plays for other people, Boston had the perfect team around him, great spot up shooters who were at the point of their careers where they were OK with not being the primary ball handler/motor of the offense

plus Rondo has no perimeter game and can't shoot FTs.. please Lakers.. stay away

[DirkNowitzki41]

i hope rondo leaves and goes to the lakers.

lakers to stay mediocre at best for years to come. :applause:

[Eric Cartman]

His FT % is a disgrace not only for the NBA, but for humanity.

[kenny817]

Funny...Coming from a Lakers fan

Bottom of the barrel...hilarious actually

[Chadwin]

The only time he's effective is when people foolishly play close to him on D.

[MavsSuperFan]

honestly hate rondo more than any nba player now
Mavs got robbed so badly in that trade. Rondo is such a flawed player

[IncarceratedBob]

Funny...Coming from a Lakers fan

Bottom of the barrel...hilarious actually
Lol Lakers and Mavs have the same chance of winning a ring this year.

[kenny817]

I knew the offense would take a hit with Rondo...the added defense on opposing PG's would make it worth it

I mean just think...Jameer Nelson guarding CP3/Westbrook/Dame/Conley/Steph...but man...this trade is looking bad right now

I understand why they did it tho

[kenny817]

Lol Lakers and Mavs have the same chance of winning a ring this year.

Math whiz

[FPJ]

Rondo's is in this weird position as a player tbh..

he's a great talent with supreme talent and is probably the best passer in the league, great rebounder, great defender from what I remember

but he's at his best with the ball in his hands making plays for other people, Boston had the perfect team around him, great spot up shooters who were at the point of their careers where they were OK with not being the primary ball handler/motor of the offense

plus Rondo has no perimeter game and can't shoot FTs.. please Lakers.. stay away

Seems standard for a Lakers fan to have stoped watching bball 3-4 years ago. What i dont get is why some of them still post about current stuff when they obviously have no clue.

Its cringeworthy to hear stuff like Rondo is the best passer or great defender and rebounder. Not even Boston fans believe that anymore.

[warriorfan]

Dude is a flat out cancer on that team never would of thought it.


I would, Rondo would do immature shit on the Boston team that had really strong leaders...Take him out of that and it's not surprising he is acting a fool.


Plus the cat sucks...you are gonna be a guard who can't shoot a free throw? Now we see how good that Boston team made him look....Later Rondo...dumpster is that away.

[navy]

Stop it. Rondo hasnt been good since he tore his ACL. Dude is garbage and a locker room headcase/cancer.

stay away.

[Artillery]

He's always been an overrated statpadder. This is a problem with a lot of low IQ fans that don't actually watch games and only follow box scores. Too often you have people gushing over raw stats without looking at impact. That's why mediocre point guards like Rondo and Tony Parker end up getting overrated. These two played with some VERY talented players...Rondo with KG/Pierce/Allen and TP with TD/Manu/Kawhi...so they automatically ended up getting labeled as winners when neither is very good at running an offense.

[masonanddixon]

As soon as the trade went down I said it was a horrible move.

Of course genius boy DMavs thought Rondo would be the savior somehow...

[SCdac]

I don't even think it's all about their best players (i think Monta and Dirk can light it up when needed). just feel like any team giving Richard Jefferson, Charlie V, Raymond Felton, and Amare consistent minutes is going to be weak. In their best season (11), Dirk and Chandler were younger, they had a lethal combination of offensive and defensive players, and had that hunger for a "first championship" which is hard to replicate years later. Even last season Vince Carter's clutchness and desire to win was well needed (but now absent). Jason Kidd's role on that champ team was invaluable - lead them in three's made (something Rondo isn't likely to do) shot well from the FT line and kept them honest in that respect. also lead the Mavs in steals and assists (150+ assists in 21 games). Rondo's positive impact and desire for a ring is more questionable.

[DMAVS41]

I don't even think it's all about their best players (i think Monta and Dirk can light it up when needed). just feel like any team giving Richard Jefferson, Charlie V, Raymond Felton, and Amare consistent minutes is going to be weak. In their best season (11), Dirk and Chandler were younger, they had a lethal combination of offensive and defensive players, and had that hunger for a "first championship" which is hard to replicate years later. Even last season Vince Carter's clutchness and desire to win was well needed (but now absent). Jason Kidd's role on that champ team was invaluable - lead them in three's made (something Rondo isn't likely to do) shot well from the FT line and kept them honest in that respect. also lead the Mavs in steals and assists (150+ assists in 21 games). Rondo's positive impact and desire for a ring is more questionable.

This is pretty much spot on.

I will say that the emergence of Aminu as a real difference maker is a really nice spot for this team. Amare isn't great, but neither was Wright. Amare actually isn't much worse than Wright.

The reason the Mavs looked so good early was because they had the softest schedule in the league.

We beat like 1 good team for real. We beat the Spurs, but they didn't play anyone.

Rondo has been dreadful, but I actually don't think the trade "hurt" this team. I think they were going to go bad once the schedule got harder. Factor in the Parsons and Tyson injuries and I don't see how Jameer, Wright, and Crowder are doing any better than Rondo, Aminu, and Amare/Charlie V/Jefferson.

Simple fact is with or without the trade this team was over-rated early on this season based on a joke schedule.

The optimist in me holds out hope for Dirk/Ellis getting hot in a playoff series and Rondo stepping his game up.

[Random_Guy]

lol the mavs were not gonna get anywhere before the rondo trade, this is one of those risks you gotta take.

[navy]

lol the mavs were not gonna get anywhere before the rondo trade, this is one of those risks you gotta take.
I disagree. Rondo sucks post acl, they could have done better

[jzek]

This is why Rondo is never invited to Team USA.

[masonanddixon]

lol the mavs were not gonna get anywhere before the rondo trade, this is one of those risks you gotta take.

I totally disagree. What Dallas needed was a steady hand who would distribute and get the hell out of Monta's way on offense. Instead they brought in a ball dominant player who can't shoot, literally the two worst qualities you want in the Mavs' starting PG with this roster.

[Random_Guy]

I totally disagree. What Dallas needed was a steady hand who would distribute and get the hell out of Monta's way on offense. Instead they brought in a ball dominant player who can't shoot, literally the two worst qualities you want in the Mavs' starting PG with this roster.
no, you want to put great shooters around rondo and lets him work, thats how the celtics worked. problem is rondo hasnt been playing up to par.

[knicksman]

rondos talents arent used tho. They should get rid of ellis imo. They paid parsons max so he should be the primary scorer and rondo needs the ball. If they could get rid of ellis and find a defender, they could become elite.

[navy]

rondos talents arent used tho. They should get rid of ellis imo. They paid parsons max so he should be the primary scorer and rondo needs the ball. If they could get rid of ellis and find a defender, they could become elite.
:biggums:

Rondo sucks. Pass first point guards dont win championships since Magic Johnson. :no:

Also, Ellis >> Rondo

[knicksman]

:biggums:

Rondo sucks. Pass first point guards dont win championships since Magic Johnson. :no:

Also, Ellis >> Rondo

:coleman: Rondo shouldve won in 2010 if not for the refs

[knicksman]

Dallas has too much redundancy. OKC is much better with durant alone instead of having redundant players in westbrook/harden same with houston wihout parsons/lin. But it seems like cuban is back to walker/jamison/nash mavs where they were going for names instead of fit.

[navy]

:coleman: Rondo shouldve won in 2010 if not for the refs
Either way that version of Rondo is finished. He's garbage. Ellis >>>>

[knicksman]

Either way that version of Rondo is finished. He's garbage. Ellis >>>>

:coleman: gotten rid by GSW and now theyre contenders. No team is winning with ellis

[navy]

:coleman: gotten rid by GSW and now theyre contenders. No team is winning with ellis
Stop it. Golden State didnt become contenders until they got a superstar in steph curry and 3 DPOY candiates on the same team. Also fired Mark Jackson and got Alvin Gentry.

You wont win with Ellis. You sure as hell wont win with cancer like Rondo.

[knicksman]

Stop it. Golden State didnt become contenders until they got a superstar in steph curry and 3 DPOY candiates on the same team. Also fired Mark Jackson and got Alvin Gentry.

You wont win with Ellis. You sure as hell wont win with cancer like Rondo.

almost in 2010.

GSW made it to the 2nd round the year they took out ellis on the team..

West knew ellis is a cancer

[navy]

almost in 2010. They made it to the 2nd round the year they took out ellis on the team
Almost isnt good enough.Either way that isnt the same Rondo.
Ellis makes the mavs better. Rondo makes them worse.

And I dont think Ellis is anything special.

[knicksman]

Almost isnt good enough.Either way that isnt the same Rondo.
Ellis makes the mavs better. Rondo makes them worse.

They were going downhill thats why the trade for rondo. But rondo is rendered useless. Ellis wants the ball. Even their max guy(parsons) is useless because of ellis.

[navy]

They were going downhill thats why the trade for rondo. But rondo is rendered useless. Ellis wants the ball. Even their max guy(parsons) is useless because of ellis.
They were going downhill because they were garbage at defense. They thought Rondo would help, and he did slightly but he is garbage at offense making the team much worse when they were the best offense in the league. Teams sag off him and send more help to Dirk and Ellis and the dude cant even hit a freethrow.

Parsons got the max because Mark Cuban let his ego get the best of him.

[34-24 Footwork]

Dallas offense, probably since at least 2003, has been highly contingent upon floor spacing. Been that way with Nick, Nash, Devin Harris, Jason Terry and etc.

When defenders get to sag off your point guard because he can't shoot anything past a 13 footer, and when you have the luxury as a defense of not rotating on the perimeter because you WANT Rondo do shoot from long range, then you're gonna trouble with penetration and floor spacing.

Rondo is the ONLY person at the point guard position in the NBA that you theoretically don't have to play defense against...

[knicksman]

They were going downhill because they were garbage at defense. They thought Rondo would help, and he did slightly but he is garbage at offense making the team much worse when they were the best offense in the league. Teams sag off him and send more help to Dirk and Ellis and the dude cant even hit a freethrow.

Parsons got the max because Mark Cuban let his ego get the best of him.

They are still the same before or after the trade. If they could flip ellis for a defender, they would be much better. Rondo playmaking is underutilized same with parsons scoring. As Ive said, they are the same as 2003 mavs where they have jamison, walker who are all offensive players.

[SyRyanYang]

Isn't he shooting close to 40% from the deep since joining the Mavs?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Isn't he shooting close to 40% from the deep since joining the Mavs?

39.5% from deep...29.5% from the FT line and 41.6% from the field. He's bad at offense.

[chosen_one6]

Isn't he shooting close to 40% from the deep since joining the Mavs?

Yeah but he doesn't shoot frequently enough for it to matter. He shoots about 1 three a game. He's also shooting 41% from the field in general. He's absolutely no threat on the offensive end and his defense isn't the same anymore.

[ArbitraryWater]

Rondo's is in this weird position as a player tbh..

he's a great talent with supreme talent and is probably the best passer in the league, great rebounder, great defender from what I remember

but he's at his best with the ball in his hands making plays for other people, Boston had the perfect team around him, great spot up shooters who were at the point of their careers where they were OK with not being the primary ball handler/motor of the offense

plus Rondo has no perimeter game and can't shoot FTs.. please Lakers.. stay away

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[StephHamann]

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[IGOTGAME]

Stop it. Rondo hasnt been good since he tore his ACL. Dude is garbage and a locker room headcase/cancer.

stay away.

yup, the ACL did it. sad to see some many stars going down with injuries

[ProfessorMurder]

yup, the ACL did it. sad to see some many stars going down with injuries
He was still leading the league in assists this year on a shitty Boston team though... He's not what he was, but the Mavs offense is just not a good fit.

There's a hell of a lot more wrong with the team than him... But he'll continue to get nearly all of the blame.

Tyson's missed time.

Rondo's missed time since getting there, and he's playing in a new system that doesn't play to his strengths, joining mid-season.

Parsons sucks and has missed a bunch of time.

Parsons and Dirk are bad defensively when they're both on the court.

Their schedule is harder in the second half of the year.

They have no bench and rely on shitty veterans like Charlie V and Stat.

[Optimus Prime]

It's pretty unbelievable that after all this years Rondo still hasn't learned how to shoot consistently or make a free throw. :facepalm

[DirkNowitzki41]

They were going downhill thats why the trade for rondo. But rondo is rendered useless. Ellis wants the ball. Even their max guy(parsons) is useless because of ellis.

If you actually believe Ellis is at fault here or is a 'cancer' then you haven't watched him as a Mav. The guy makes everything happen for us. When he was the primary playmaker, we had the best offense in the NBA by far; that's no fluke.

Since adding Rondo, Ellis is forced to play off-the ball, which isn't playing to his strengths. When Ellis does get the ball, he can't use his greatest strength which is slashing because Rondo is such an awful shooter that no one guards him within 10 feet. He is literally the worst offensive fit with Ellis in the league... plus, right before adding Rondo, Parsons was finally finding his groove and looked like a great fit with Ty, Dirk and Monta.

Ellis is legit and an all-star level player. We can win with him, but not with Rondo at PG.

Honestly, I'd be ecstatic if we did a sign and trade with the Pacers to swap George Hill for Rondo. I like Rondo the player, but he doesn't fit.

[dubeta]

The problem with Rondo, is that he literally turns all his teammates into spot up shooters :facepalm

Thats okay if you are playing with Ray Allen in Boston, but not when you're playing with Ellis and Dirk

[YouGotServed]

This the team that was supposed to be better than Houston? :yaohappy:

[pastis]

1. first of all, i was against the rondo trade from the very beginning, from the first trade rumours on. I knew that he was jsut a stat padder and sucking on offense. at least since his serious injury. saying that, it was just obvious for me that he would change the locker-room atmosphere in a bad way.

2. its not just rondo, its the whole team:


a) Dirk sucks lately. cant get his feet 2cm off the floor, cant hit open jumpers, dont play iso. dirk played great until december.than he played 4-5weeks bad, but seemed to get better fro january to the all star break. since AS break he just sucks on everything. and im not talking about defense.lol.

b) Monta. Monta cant be our go to guy in the playoffs. he is good, but he is not franchise-player good, like duncan, dirk, kobe, lebron, wade.
with this old washed up-grandpa mavs-team, you need a franchise-star player to take over every game. or you have spurs/hawks overall good team...then monta ellis skills could be enough for a serious playoff run.
but the mavs are old, washed up too many new players were introduced.

Motna is sucking lately as well. bad jumpers, no real drive. no FT. bad.

c) Chandler. just to shy on offense to be a real thrill. too few off rebunds.

d) coach carlise

he is just overrated as fcvk. he needed a godmode dirk on a mediocre team to have his ring.
he doesnt seem adjusting his calls/plays to the game situations. its just all about monta fr month now.

give me j. kidd all day over carlise. kidd would **** rondo away and would create way more plays for dirk.

[StephHamann]

d) coach carlise

he is just overrated as fcvk. he needed a godmode dirk on a mediocre team to have his ring.
he doesnt seem adjusting his calls/plays to the game situations. its just all about monta fr month now.

give me j. kidd all day over carlise. kidd would **** rondo away and would create way more plays for dirk.

:biggums:

You listed some valid points why this team is not as good as it seems. But they are still on pace to win 50 games in the toughest west of all time.

Rick is a magician

[pastis]

im especially sad about dirk.

Dirk played magnificiant last year....and he clearly earned an ALL-NBA spot.

and this season.. its seems like his skillls fell down from the sky to the ground.

[miles berg]

I will pay for the bums plane ticket to LA.

He sucks, probably the worst starting PG in the playoffs.