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Thechosen1
03-08-2015, 11:06 PM
when he first arrived in the NBA without the meniscus injury that david west caused btw....he was literally on pace to become the greatest PG ever....i mean his skill was unrivaled IMO especially at his height.....he could score at will, literally had the game in control and could do anything he wanted....as a fan of the sport...I was actually excited to see a once in a generation player come in the form of a PG.......I was ready to enjoy the ride.

Flash forward to now....hes not even 30 yet, but he looks like raymond feltons dad when he plays on the court....cant even dribble without looking exhausted....its literally pathetic. I think we should understand how sad it is he had that injury....A man with that much skill and desire to win with two functioning knees....I think he would have definitely won a ring or two by now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VadsyLV1bdo from this


to this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_TUrYZewD0


:facepalm

KDthunderup
03-08-2015, 11:08 PM
Russell Westbrook wasn't slowed down by his meniscus issues so no excuses for CP3

Thechosen1
03-08-2015, 11:09 PM
Russell Westbrook wasn't slowed down by his meniscus issues so no excuses for CP3

people are different, and heal differently....has nothing to do with basketball ability

not really talking about whether there are excuses or not....im just pointing out how much better he would be if he were never injured

STATUTORY
03-08-2015, 11:11 PM
A man with that much skill and desire to win with two functioning knees....I think he would have definitely won a ring or two by now.

:facepalm

unless he would have grown an additional 6 inches with them meniscuses i dont think so

lilteapot
03-08-2015, 11:12 PM
Flash forward to now....hes not even 30 yet, but he looks like raymond feltons dad when he plays on the court....cant even dribble without looking exhausted....its literally pathetic. I think we should understand how sad it is he had that injury....A man with that much skill and desire to win with two functioning knees....I think he would have definitely won a ring or two by now.



Lol, what a gross exaggeration.

The reason nobody talks about it that much is because his game isn't predicated on his athleticism.

Young X
03-08-2015, 11:13 PM
He was averaging 22.5/12.5 in the 11 games before today. Had 36/12 against another top PG in Lillard last game. The f*ck you mean "he can't dribble the ball without looking exhausted"? Do you just watch him play on national television only?

Yes, his injury is disappointing but how was he ever gonna win a ring on those Hornets teams?

Genaro
03-08-2015, 11:15 PM
Being that size really takes a tool on his body, if it wasn't the knee it would be something else. Little guys who drive to the paint get injury a lot.

But anyway he manage to have a great career anyway. I would say he is a top 10 PG all time.

Thechosen1
03-08-2015, 11:15 PM
Lol, what a gross exaggeration.

The reason nobody talks about it that much is because his game isn't predicated on his athleticism.

its not, but in this league...he needs it to keep up...he gets tired too fast because hes out of shape, because hes always taking it easy because hes worried his knees will give...

if he didnt have to worry about going hard...he would be alot better in terms of decisiveness...he would probably be a more aggressive scorer and more potent offensively...packaged with his playmaking ability.....he basically doesnt trust his body anymore ever since that injury, and its affected his career negatively since then.

ClipperRevival
03-08-2015, 11:16 PM
He has clearly lost a half step, even when compared to his first year as a Clipper to now. In his prime, he was able to get too anywhere on the court with his dribble and get to the rack anytime he wanted too. He was that good. But now, he can't.

He is the most complete pg I have ever seen. There was not one thing he couldn't do on the court given his size. Of course he's had clutch issues but when you break down his game, he was as complete as any pg.

ralph_i_el
03-08-2015, 11:16 PM
When did CP3 start looking "Pathetic"? He's still the best point guard in the league and one of the best defensive guards of the past decade. Last season he played literally the most perfect game I've ever seen a point guard play (I remember it vividly because he single handedly thrashed my wizards). He's still tearing it up.

RoseCity07
03-08-2015, 11:17 PM
I would trade Damian Lillard straight up for Chris Paul today. He's still the best overall point guard.

Thechosen1
03-08-2015, 11:23 PM
He was averaging 22.5/12.5 in the 11 games before today. Had 36/12 against another top PG in Lillard last game. The f*ck you mean "he can't dribble the ball without looking exhausted"? Do you just watch him play on national television only?

Yes, his injury is disappointing but how was he ever gonna win a ring on those Hornets teams?


so you gonna act like him turning the ball over against the grizzlies a week ago at crunch time wasn't him being gassed and tired? What about against the blazers where he literally looked lost in the final possessions...he gets tired way too easily.

ClipperRevival
03-08-2015, 11:26 PM
It is absolutely true that CP3 has been tired late in games these last few weeks because he's had to carry such a large load since Blake's been out. Yeah, the turnover against Memphis late was him having nothing left. There were a few more instances late in games where it was obvious he was tired.

stephanieg
03-09-2015, 02:46 AM
CP3 looking puffy over the last couple of years too. Melo/Pierce disease.

Akrazotile
03-09-2015, 02:50 AM
Blaming it on the meniscus? Stop. That's a kiddie injury.

Dude just doesnt keep himself in the best shape he could.

oarabbus
03-09-2015, 03:54 AM
its not, but in this league...he needs it to keep up...he gets tired too fast because hes out of shape, because hes always taking it easy because hes worried his knees will give...

if he didnt have to worry about going hard...he would be alot better in terms of decisiveness...he would probably be a more aggressive scorer and more potent offensively...packaged with his playmaking ability.....he basically doesnt trust his body anymore ever since that injury, and its affected his career negatively since then.


You're tripping dude. He's the best defensive PG in the game (at least according to advanced stats) and drops 20+ points on the reg. You make it sound like no one else in the NBA has returned from an injury.

Tbh you look at Chris Paul and look at Grant Hill or Brandon Roy and you realize CP3 wasn't really robbed of much.

SyRyanYang
03-09-2015, 04:34 AM
You're tripping dude. He's the best defensive PG in the game (at least according to advanced stats) and drops 20+ points on the reg. You make it sound like no one else in the NBA has returned from an injury.

Tbh you look at Chris Paul and look at Grant Hill or Brandon Roy and you realize CP3 wasn't really robbed of much.

What advanced stats?

CarlosBoozer
03-09-2015, 05:05 AM
Before his Injury he was Anakin Skywalker (fast, strong and unlimited potential) , post injury he became Darth Vader (slower but still powerful)

buddha
03-09-2015, 05:11 AM
people are different, and heal differently....has nothing to do with basketball ability

not really talking about whether there are excuses or not....im just pointing out how much better he would be if he were never injured

maybe if Chris Paul actually trained his muscles in the off season instead of working on his dribble moves and no look passes in between eating donuts he would still be athletic.

http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Chris-Paul-Shirtless-Sports-Illustrated.png

http://necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Chris-Paul-and-Bar-Sports-Illustrated-5.jpg

don't even compare Chris to our gawd the Goatbrook

http://imagestoring.net/gfx/1114/russell-westbrook-shirtless-abs.jpeg

this is a man who trains hard in the off season.

JohnMax
03-09-2015, 05:11 AM
23/11/6 and 3 steals in 08-09. He is not the same player anymore and it has everything to do with injuries.

buddha
03-09-2015, 05:14 AM
23/11/6 and 3 steals in 08-09. He is not the same player anymore and it has everything to do with injuries.

refer to the graphics above, it's because he is a lazy slob who doesn't train.

SillyRabbit
03-09-2015, 06:11 AM
The reason why no one talks about it is because he's still managed to be an elite player despite the injury.

Would he be a better player if it had never happened? Absolutely.

However when he's still doing so well it's hard for people to talk about how it affected him.

Overall I agree with your sentiment though, we did miss out on seeing what his maximum potential could be.

ImKobe
03-09-2015, 06:15 AM
23/11/6 and 3 steals in 08-09. He is not the same player anymore and it has everything to do with injuries.

He's playing in a different system and sharing touches with Blake Griffin is something that takes away from his numbers, especially since Blake now doesn't just try to dunk the damn ball or catch a lob but create his own shot.

CP3 is playing like his usual self since Blake injury and the numbers are there to back it up.

He's averaging 21/5/11/2 on 51% shooting in his last 20 games.

22/5/12 with 2.9 TOPG on 51% shooting with 11 double-doubles in his last 12

notatop29pg
03-09-2015, 06:44 AM
Excatly the same player he always has been, minus some quickness.

Has just learnt that there are smarter ways to play than at full speed for 48 minutes. Has also learnt that he needs his teammates, something a lot of the other guys still haven't figured out.

ILLsmak
03-09-2015, 07:48 AM
maybe if Chris Paul actually trained his muscles in the off season instead of working on his dribble moves and no look passes in between eating donuts he would still be athletic.

http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Chris-Paul-Shirtless-Sports-Illustrated.png

http://necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Chris-Paul-and-Bar-Sports-Illustrated-5.jpg

don't even compare Chris to our gawd the Goatbrook

http://imagestoring.net/gfx/1114/russell-westbrook-shirtless-abs.jpeg

this is a man who trains hard in the off season.

you think Chris Paul looks fat in those photos? lol. It's that melo shit all over again.

-Smak

T_L_P
03-09-2015, 07:54 AM
you think Chris Paul looks fat in those photos? lol. It's that melo shit all over again.

-Smak

There's a big difference between that and this:





















http://oi55.tinypic.com/so8vgi.jpg

-Smak

buddha
03-09-2015, 07:59 AM
almost as fat as

http://24.media.tumblr.com/ef8bd9a879e3ef835c387e689e2cea9a/tumblr_mjqsdusNOQ1rba330o1_500.jpg

Prime_Shaq
03-09-2015, 08:37 AM
maybe if Chris Paul actually trained his muscles in the off season instead of working on his dribble moves and no look passes in between eating donuts he would still be athletic.

http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Chris-Paul-Shirtless-Sports-Illustrated.png

http://necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Chris-Paul-and-Bar-Sports-Illustrated-5.jpg

don't even compare Chris to our gawd the Goatbrook

http://imagestoring.net/gfx/1114/russell-westbrook-shirtless-abs.jpeg

this is a man who trains hard in the off season.
Who is the chick?

SwishSquared
03-09-2015, 11:43 AM
He should have never had the meniscus cut out, if he could have avoided it. It was never fully clear if the damage was beyond repair, hence the removal of the portion of the meniscus, or if he really wanted to get back on the court as fast as possible. I know he wanted to minimize his time away from the court.

His quickness added that extra dimension to his game that he just doesn't have anymore. Also allowed his New Orleans teams to be great in crunch time. He's compensated well since then but we did get robbed of a couple extra eye-popping seasons imo.

oarabbus
03-09-2015, 01:30 PM
What advanced stats?

http://grantland.com/features/department-of-defense/


CP3 is defensive Point God, no question about it.

ButterFace
03-09-2015, 01:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VadsyLV1bdo from this


to this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_TUrYZewD0


:facepalm

Do you really think he bit on a fake because of a knee injury? :biggums:

greatest-ever
03-09-2015, 02:22 PM
If were to talk about knee injuries and what-ifs with players, what about Dwyane Wade? An injury free Wade would've been a top 10-15 player of all time and possibly ahead of Kobe.

Paul still wouldn't have been better than Oscar or Magic.