The Knicks and the 1996 draft.

[Hey Yo]

They had 3 first round picks, 18th, 19th and 21st. Which turned out to be 3 busts....

Sr. Forward John Wallace (Syracuse)
Sr. F Walter McCarty (Kentucky)
Jr. F Dontae Jones (Mississippi St.)

At the time it looked great for them but whiffing on those 3 picks was a definite set back for years to come.

Their next 1st round pick was in 1999 which was the big white stiff from France that Vince Carter dunked over. Could have had Artest who went to the Bulls with the next pick.

[Legends66NBA7]

Ben Wallace went undrafted that year. :oldlol:

Could have had Big Z and Derek Fisher too. Let's say if they got those 2 and picked Wallace, then thay would have definitely changed the course of their franchise.

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[Richesly]

Ben Wallace went undrafted that year. :oldlol:

Could have had Big Z and Derek Fisher too. Let's say if they got those 2 and picked Wallace, then thay would have definitely changed the course of their franchise.


Sorry, but Derek Fisher was garbage.

I bet you think he deserves to be in the hall of fame.

[GOBB]

They had 3 first round picks, 18th, 19th and 21st. Which turned out to be 3 busts....

Sr. Forward John Wallace (Syracuse)
Sr. F Walter McCarty (Kentucky)
Jr. F Dontae Jones (Mississippi St.)

At the time it looked great for them but whiffing on those 3 picks was a definite set back for years to come.

Their next 1st round pick was in 1999 which was the big white stiff from France that Vince Carter dunked over. Could have had Artest who went to the Bulls with the next pick.

But how often are you going to score drafting that late? It didnt help them no doubt but at the same time to say it set them back? A bit of an exaggeration because if you were dependent on those picks to carry your franchise further in the future? You are a tad bit delusional. That range is usually bench players or we got lucky and got a starter.

[KNOW1EDGE]

https://lifeonabranch.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/hindsight1.jpg

Exactly.

You could pick any team, any year, and in hindsight say "oh, they should picked this guy instead of that guy"

[Hey Yo]

But how often are you going to score drafting that late?[/B] It didnt help them no doubt [B]but at the same time to say it set them back? A bit of an exaggeration because if you were dependent on those picks to carry your franchise further in the future? You are a tad bit delusional. That range is usually bench players or we got lucky and got a starter.
If you draft 3 forwards (2 who are seniors) with the 18th 19th and 21st pick, one of those should pan out to be a 14-7 guy with 26mpg.

Never implied that those 3 would "carry" the Knicks, but at least be good compliments in the future.

[Marchesk]

Exactly.

You could pick any team, any year, and in hindsight say "oh, they should picked this guy instead of that guy"

With the 3rd pick of the 1984 draft, the Chicago Bulls draft ...

Not quite.

[Height Freak]

2 of them got into "He got game"...

[imdaman99]

I remember being super excited about John Wallace because he lead Syracuse to the Championship game.

The guy was one of the worst defensive players ever and his offense was not any good. They were all late picks, and having them all so close together was pointless. I do agree with OP that at least 1 of them should have panned out but unfortunately I don't remember any of their picks in the 90s ever doing anything outside of Charlie Ward. I guess Hubert Davis hit those winning FTs after Pippen fouled him.

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With the 3rd pick of the 1984 draft, the Chicago Bulls draft ...

Not quite.

they blew their second round pick

[Real14]

stop talking shit man.

[AintNoSunshine]

You gotta mention who was still available at the time?

[GOBB]

If you draft 3 forwards (2 who are seniors) with the 18th 19th and 21st pick, one of those should pan out to be a 14-7 guy with 26mpg.

Never implied that those 3 would "carry" the Knicks, but at least be good compliments in the future.

Derek Fisher, Big Z were the only picks made that was worth a damn. Somehow no other franchise suffered set backs but NYK. NYK were better off packaging all 3 picks and moving up. THEN they could have got a guy who could have panned out as a 14-7 26mpg guy.

Look at the following draft in the same range. Nothing worthwhile and from 18 until end of the draft only Bobby Jackson worth noting. How many franchises were set back due to not finding a productive compliment to the future? :confusedshrug:

It's just not a range you hit on more times than not. Sorry.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Interesting look back at the 96 offseason (featuring the Knicks a bit):
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/paying-needed-tribute-to-the-nba-s-1996-offseason--the-wackiest-one-by-miles-201944082.html

[Legends66NBA7]

Sorry, but Derek Fisher was garbage.

I bet you think he deserves to be in the hall of fame.

He was better than anybody the Knicks drafted that season, which was the point and apparently has gone over your head. As a late lottery pick, getting a guy like Fisher would be a nice pick up (considering how much of an iron man and leadership he brought to teams), surrounded by potential hhypothetical of Wallace and Big Z who should become all-stars.

And why the **** would I think he's a hall of famer ? Bait someone else.

[LosBulls]

They had 3 first round picks, 18th, 19th and 21st. Which turned out to be 3 busts....

Sr. Forward John Wallace (Syracuse)
Sr. F Walter McCarty (Kentucky)
Jr. F Dontae Jones (Mississippi St.)

At the time it looked great for them but whiffing on those 3 picks was a definite set back for years to come.

Their next 1st round pick was in 1999 which was the big white stiff from France that Vince Carter dunked over. Could have had Artest who went to the Bulls with the next pick.
They won 6 rings afterwards so who cares?

[el gringos]

You can't take 3 1st rounders same year. Should've traded all 3 for a better pick. 3 picks move you to 10 or 12? Might as well take Kobe or Nash. Heck are you saying even 2 of those picks couldn't move you even 1 spot? Jermain oneill


Bad scouting. Who knows, maybe bad luck. Maybe they were all over Kobe, Nash, and oneill. Thought they'd all drop?



I hope teams loading up on picks like suns/celtics consolidate their picks and go after specific guys or picks. I want to see some 2 and 3 picks for 1 type trades. Philly doesn't need 3 1sts this year.

[ciaguy23]

hey walter is a legend! (at least in boston he is)

[Sarcastic]

No one was drafted after them that is worth mentioning. The only thing they could have done is trade the 3 picks for a better earlier pick, but that's not even a guarantee. It's not like the NFL where quantity>quality. In the NBA quality >>>>>>> all.