Marc Cuban Failed

[L8krH8tr]

Too many shark tank deals , not enough legit nba deals. Parsons is a bust, Rondo is a bust. Thats alot of wasted cash, Dirk took less money for nothing.

[gts]

Going back to the year after the title Cuban has made a series of questionable moves

He's really not that great at putting a team together... Seems to out think himself or something

Without Dirk for all these years the Mavs would have been screwed

[DMAVS41]

Going back to the year after the title Cuban has made a series of questionable moves

He's really not that great at putting a team together... Seems to out think himself or something

Without Dirk for all these years the Mavs would have been screwed

He and Nellie JR have made many poor decisions since taking over the team, but I think he's actually made some really good decisions as of late.

I don't like the Parsons signing, but I see why he did it.

Just hard to win without an elite player like you said. Dirk isn't elite anymore. He's just a pretty damn good NBA player...and that isn't good enough to carry a team in this Western conference right now.

[iamgine]

Rondo and Parsons are damn good players.

Rondo
Monta
Parsons
Dirk
Chandler

The Mavs starting unit are way above average at every position. They just haven't been utilized the right way or haven't adapted to how they can maximize their talent. Rick Carlisle needs to figure out how, and it's not going to be easy.

[navy]

Rondo and Parsons are damn good players.

Rondo
Monta
Parsons
Dirk
Chandler

The Mavs starting unit are way above average at every position. They just haven't been utilized the right way or haven't adapted to how they can maximize their talent. Rick Carlisle needs to figure out how, and it's not going to be easy.
Rondo is no longer a good player.

Parsons is good, but certainly not elite.

[gts]

He and Nellie JR have made many poor decisions since taking over the team, but I think he's actually made some really good decisions as of late.

I don't like the Parsons signing, but I see why he did it.

Just hard to win without an elite player like you said. Dirk isn't elite anymore. He's just a pretty damn good NBA player...and that isn't good enough to carry a team in this Western conference right now.


I wonder what it is.. maybe he tries to apply his business experience to BBall or relies on the numbers game too much but he sure does seem to come up with some odd moves... OR maybe he just likes to gamble

It's seems like he has this idea that team chemistry is a myth

[tpols]

Watching this game I think dirk is tired.. all his shots are short.. He's missing wide open 3s and midrange shots.. he missed so many potential momentum building shots in the first half That he normally makes in his sleep. They can't win without him hitting the gimmes especially with their lack of shooting and spacing.

[imnew09]

Rondo and Ellis can't play together. Period. Bust a$$ team

[tpols]

Rondo and Ellis can't play together. Period. Bust a$$ team
I'm kinda surprised at montas lack of shooting ability.. I thought he was decent but teams straight concede the shot to him and he still shoops like shit most of the time. That plus rondo and chandler makes for such ass spacing.

[Done_And_Done]

Qurstion - Who manufactured the team in 2011?

[Fire Colangelo]

Sure he's made some questionable moves, so what? He's one of the few owners in the league that actually cares about the team's success (other than making money), and will spend whatever it takes to get there. That's good enough for me.

[JerrySeinfeld]

They could have spent the money they used to get Parsons so much better. I don't like Morey but maybe he was living rent free in Cuban's head a bit, causing Cuban to way overpay for Parsons thinking that he "stole" him from the Rockets.

Should have went after Ariza for 8M a year... give him like two years and a player option for the 3rd... Then would of had 7M left to get better depth for the team.

[Beastmode88]

Sure he's made some questionable moves, so what? He's one of the few owners in the league that actually cares about the team's success (other than making money), and will spend whatever it takes to get there. That's good enough for me.

he overspend in 2011 and won a ship while beating down the best player in the game. :rolleyes:

[Fire Colangelo]

he overspend in 2011 and won a ship while beating down the best player in the game. :rolleyes:

Yeah... which is exactly what I said...?

He's shown that he'll pay luxury tax if he believes his team can compete for a title several times.

[Beastmode88]

At least learn to spell his first name.

[MavAlbert]

you guys must not remember the mavericks before he bought the team...

[Akrazotile]

Is Rondo a free agent this offseason?

I wonder if theyd try to just trade him again as soon as they can.

[beastee]

Pre-Rondo this team was looking great. They just brought in the wrong PG. Simple as that.

[tamaraw08]

Cuban is not perfect but his moves I felt made sense IMO.
Well, except for giving max money to Parsons. I really think they should have used most of the money on Greg Monroe instead.
They barely gave anybody worthy to acquire Rondo and if he doesn't pan out, they can be ok letting him walk and use the $ on somebody else.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Pre-Rondo this team was looking great. They just brought in the wrong PG. Simple as that.

I just don't understand how he is shooting so poorly from the FT line. 2 years ago he was a 60+% FT shooter and this year he's not even at 30%.

[YouGotServed]

Cuban repeatedly gets shitted on by Morey. When Morey sent him a trade offer asking for Dirk. :lol Like a slap in the face.

Poor boy.

[navy]

Cuban repeatedly gets shitted on by Morey. When Morey sent him a trade offer asking for Dirk. :lol Like a slap in the face.

Poor boy.
Gotta admit, Morey has owned him this season. :oldlol:

[guy]

Sometimes there's just too much talent on a team and it's hard for everyone to be happy and utilized correctly. It's funny cause given their current situations, had the Celtics managed to trade for Love, it would've been the perfect situation for Love and Rondo. Shit, if it wasn't for Kobe, it would've made a lot sense for them to go to the Lakers next year together.

[chocolatethunder]

He and Nellie JR have made many poor decisions since taking over the team, but I think he's actually made some really good decisions as of late.

I don't like the Parsons signing, but I see why he did it.

Just hard to win without an elite player like you said. Dirk isn't elite anymore. He's just a pretty damn good NBA player...and that isn't good enough to carry a team in this Western conference right now.
Defense be damned, this team was so much better with Jameer. It just was. Ellis and Rondo look awful together. I thought that Rondo would be a good move but I desperately wish they just had Jameer back and got Amare and a defensive big off the bench. This is a nightmare. I was excited that they actually had a chance to make some noise early in the year but now there's no shot. Im not wild about Parsons but I'm ok with him but this Rondo experiment is a disaster.

[SupermanOnSteroids]

i don't hate the parsons move. he's not responsible for the mavs letdown.

the truth is that everyone on the team is underperforming at the moment.

since the all star break:

Dirk is averaging 12ppg. either hiding an injury or old age caught up to him quick.
Ellis is averaging 16ppg on 38% shooting. playing with an injured hip.
Parsons has only played 3 games.
Rondo still hasn't been able to play with the proper Mavs team and hasn't been accimilated.
Tyson's even missed some time.

They should get better for the stretch run.

[rezznor]

let's be honest, the mavs were a shit franchise before cuban came along. he's been a net positive for the team. i think part of his problem is that he let his ego get in the way. i don't know why he has this rivalry with morey but i think it has led him to make some questionable moves he would not have made unless he felt it was in part to stick it to daryl

[rezznor]

he overspend in 2011 and won a ship while beating down the best player in the game. :rolleyes:
and then he broke up a championship team...

he also didnt want to pay nash.

[masonanddixon]

As a Mavs fan, all you want is to get a 3 or 6 or 7 seed and hopefully to be facing Houston in the first round. Memphis is a good match up as well. Rick will be able to get the team at least 2 wins against anyone and I like the chances against anyone but Golden State.

[YouGotServed]

As a Mavs fan, all you want is to get a 3 or 6 or 7 seed and hopefully to be facing Houston in the first round. Memphis is a good match up as well. Rick will be able to get the team at least 2 wins against anyone and I like the chances against anyone but Golden State.

I was going to provide a thorough response but took a look at your rep first. You aren't worthy of my time.

[warriorfan]

1/2

[DMAVS41]

They could have spent the money they used to get Parsons so much better. I don't like Morey but maybe he was living rent free in Cuban's head a bit, causing Cuban to way overpay for Parsons thinking that he "stole" him from the Rockets.

Should have went after Ariza for 8M a year... give him like two years and a player option for the 3rd... Then would of had 7M left to get better depth for the team.

I was saying this at the time.

I wanted Ariza and I. Thomas...and we would have had enough to bring back Blair as well.

Our team would just be crazy good with that. We wouldn't have made the Rondo trade....and we could have moved Wright/Crowder/Filler and a first rounder for something legit.

It was a huge mistake to pay Parsons that much and we are paying for that mistake right now. It was obvious.

Like I said before...I see why he did it, but it was stupid.

God...Ariza and Thomas on this team would be so sick.

[DMAVS41]

Pre-Rondo this team was looking great. They just brought in the wrong PG. Simple as that.

No doubt Rondo hasn't been good.

But we weren't great before Rondo. I've detailed this in other threads.

We played a joke schedule before Rondo. We beat like 4 good teams in our first 27 games when we had the 19-8 record. It was absurdly inflated.

Honestly all that has really changed is that we have been playing much better teams since that trade...and we dealt with some injuries.

This team was doomed to fail, in my opinion, with that Parsons signing. Just didn't make sense to me.

I still hold out hope that we figure something out because if they did...this team definitely has a much higher ceiling than it did before the Rondo trade.

Aminu has been fantastic and I'd still rather have a combo of Rondo/Amare over Jameer/Wright for a playoff series and it isn't remotely close.

[bdreason]

Mavs had the #1 offense when they were emphasizing ball movement and spacing. Then they went and traded for a ball-dominant PG who can't shoot... there goes your ball movement and spacing.

[CarlosBoozer]

Mavs had the #1 offense when they were emphasizing ball movement and spacing. Then they went and traded for a ball-dominant PG who can't shoot... there goes your ball movement and spacing.
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[el_locoteee]

Mavs had the #1 offense when they were emphasizing ball movement and spacing. Then they went and traded for a ball-dominant PG who can't shoot... there goes your ball movement and spacing.
But have an awful defense.
The should have trade for help defensively without hurting the offense that much.

[Pushxx]

Thank goodness Amare has been good because their bench was tragically bad.

Rondo needs to run the team himself to have success. There's NO chance he gets better playing 20 minutes a game doing nothing.

It doesn't matter because Ellis and Rondo don't complement each other at all. Ellis shoots an awful 33% on catch-and-shoot on 2.6 FGA per game. Not to mention Rondo is in need of a sports psychologist for his free throws.

They seem ****ed to me. They were better off with Jameer, Crowder, and Wright. Before Rondo, their bench was a bigger weakness than a PG since they have Monta Ellis.

[keep-itreal]

That rondo trade:roll:

[T_L_P]

Like I've been saying, barely any of these moves seem like Carlisle moves and now it's backfired.

It was pretty obvious that Rondo wasn't elite anymore. Shit, he hasn't even been good in Dallas. He's literally a low-end role player who thinks he's a star. Parsons is not a great player either, and they overpaid him, but the move at least made sense.

Dirk doesn't look right either. He's moving slower than ever and his shots are short. If he's not the Dirk of the 2014 Regular Season (can't emphasize that enough, he was contained by Splitter in the Playoffs), the Mavs don't have a shot. And the more bench time Carlisle can find for Rondo the better.

[coin24]

I like Cuban, he's not afraid to give it a go:applause:

Amare was a good signing.. Rondo in hindsight was pretty bad, they need more of a playmaker.. Still a slight hope playoff beast rondo makes a comeback..

I think dirk is gassed might need a rest

[Lebronxrings]

Better hope rick can carry this team like he did last year and in 2011

[andremiller07]

To me they are a team that's built on the fact they are going to outscore you and when they traded for Rondo they basically took that completely away. Now they are neither a great offensive or defensive team and while they weren't going to do major damage in the playoffs they are far worse of now than they would have been with Jameer/Crowder/Wright.

Crazy Rondo leaves Boston gets better and the Mavericks get worse.

[T_L_P]

And I can't believe how Dallas sold Wright down the river like that.

Dude only played 27 games for them and he's still #6 in Win Shares. He was having one of the great bigman role player seasons in a long, long time.

And they traded it for Rondo's .434 TS%, black-hole stat-padding ass. :facepalm

[Pushxx]

To me they are a team that's built on the fact they are going to outscore you and when they traded for Rondo they basically took that completely away. Now they are neither a great offensive or defensive team and while they weren't going to do major damage in the playoffs they are far worse of now than they would have been with Jameer/Crowder/Wright.

Crazy Rondo leaves Boston gets better and the Mavericks get worse.


Rondo was playing awful defense, and his offense was mediocre. Marcus Smart has played elite defense and is learning how to play PG.
Avery Bradley has been unleashed since Rondo and Green left town.
Crowder has been awesome.
Our on-the-court chemistry has improved since the trades.
Isaiah Thomas is a beast and underrated.
Small ball has been really effective.
Our roster fits Brad Stevens's system much better.

[DMAVS41]

And I can't believe how Dallas sold Wright down the river like that.

Dude only played 27 games for them and he's still #6 in Win Shares. He was having one of the great bigman role player seasons in a long, long time.

And they traded it for Rondo's .434 TS%, black-hole stat-padding ass. :facepalm

Because you clearly don't know much about our team.

We played the softest schedule in the league and Wright is the epitome of a regular season player. There is a reason he couldn't get minutes in the playoffs last year.

Also, he's a free agent and he would have commanded a number we couldn't afford.

Why keep him? He won't help you win in the playoffs and he's not going to remain with the team.

It was a no brainer to trade him.

I agree that it looks like we made the wrong trade, but there simply aren't many good defensive/rebounding guards out there to be had...and that is what this team desperately needed.

I was hoping we had gone after Avery Bradley and not Rondo actually.

But if you knew Wright or this Mavs team at all...you'd understand just how stupid it would have been to keep Wright this year.

[DMAVS41]

Mavs had the #1 offense when they were emphasizing ball movement and spacing. Then they went and traded for a ball-dominant PG who can't shoot... there goes your ball movement and spacing.

Jesus.

It was fools gold. It was a hot 27 games while playing the easiest schedule in the league.

During that time we lost to pretty much every good or better team we played. We played like 17 average to poor teams in that stretch before the trade and went 14-3 in those games...and then went 4-8 against the good teams.

There was more to the trade than just getting better. Wright is vastly over-rated and wouldn't have helped much in the playoffs and in order to compete in the playoffs we had to add a guard that could at least do something to slow down the likes of Curry, Parker, Paul, WB, Lillard, Conley...etc. Jameer was not that guy.

Obviously Rondo has been a shit fit and he's played horrible, but like I said at the time. What is the downside? We don't win the title and lose early in the playoffs? LOL...that was a lock before the trade if you knew this team

This is why it's so important to actually know a team or do some research.

So sick of everyone propping a 27 game stretch against scrub East teams and the easy West teams like it means a lot.

[disel]

14 million smackaroos for parsons was allways going to blowup in they faceses

[RightToCensor]

I was going to provide a thorough response but took a look at your rep first. You aren't worthy of my time.
:yaohappy:

[Baller1986]

:yaohappy:


http://www.wildlifehotline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/RatPoison.jpg

[Bosnian Sajo]

Not trying to defend Rondo, but to the people who keep mentioning his FT%...yea, it's bad. 29% for a big is horrible, let alone a pg, but can any of you tell me how many fts he has attempted as a Mav?





27. He has only shot 27 free throws in 31 games as a Mav.

[bdreason]

Not trying to defend Rondo, but to the people who keep mentioning his FT%...yea, it's bad. 29% for a big is horrible, let alone a pg, but can any of you tell me how many fts he has attempted as a Mav?





27. He has only shot 27 free throws in 31 games as a Mav.




Because he purposefully avoids contact.

[UK2K]

That rondo trade:roll:
That Parsons signing :roll: