Blake Griffin Trade Scenario

[RightToCensor]

He's not on the block. There's a 0.01% he gets traded, all of this is just hypothetical seeing how well the Clippers are playing without him.

Blake is gonna be 100% after he comes back from this staph infection, but (shout out to Bill Simmons) what if you can turn him into three rotational players that strengthen the depth of this depth-less team.


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So here's what interested me the most:

Clippers send: Blake Griffin
Pacers send: David West, C.J. Miles, Solomon Hill, 2015 1st (#15), 2017 1st (Lotto Protected), 2019 1st (Lotto Protected)

Indiana would do this in a heart beat.

Los Angeles would be reluctant, but when you look beyond what David West gives to his team besides stats he's a very attractive piece. Miles and Hill has struggled from deep this season, but that's coming from them chucking shots on a team without elite ball movement or players to attract double teams. The #15 pick can be turned to another asset or you can just draft a player in need. Then the Clippers get two more 1st Round picks in 2017 and 2019 that will likely become late first rounders.

GM Doc Rivers instantly turns the 3rd best player of 2014 into a tough bruiser PF who stretches the floor, two rotational NBA wings, and three first round picks.

Clippers go into next season with the lineup of:

Paul/Reddick/Miles/West/Jordan
Crawford/Hill/Barnes/Hawes

Then they can draft Bobby Portis (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/bobby-portis), the SEC Nation Player of the Year. NBADraft projects him to be Greg Monroe, but I see him becoming like David West.

*Daryl Morey approved

[navy]

The Clippers were playing just as well or better without Paul last year and I didnt see anyone suggest trading Paul. Blake Griffin was third in mvp voting as well.

Silly trade.

[Genaro]

Are you kidding me? You don't trade your FP PF who is only 26 for post prime West and 2 guys you can get similar with easy.
If they were to trade him, they would want young players and picks.

[Spurs m8]

Are you kidding me? You don't trade your FP PF who is only 26 for post prime West and 2 guys you can get similar with easy.
If they were to trade him, they would want young players and picks.

You're acting like Doc knows what he's doing

[RightToCensor]

Are you kidding me? You don't trade your FP PF who is only 26 for post prime West and 2 guys you can get similar with easy.
If they were to trade him, they would want young players and picks.
This team isn't looking to rebuild, they are looking to contend until Chris Paul and Doc Rivers calls it quits.

Fact of the matter is that teams don't have that PF who can bang bodies with the boys in the West and still spread the floor.

One more thing to consider is how ****ed the team's cap situation is. They have no room to keep Paul, Jordan, and Griffin then try sign wings that can play sides of the court.

The Clippers are the only contender that fails to get tradable assets, this team is getting a mid first and two extra first rounders. I'm not saying this a no brainer trade LA, but you're not gonna immediately hang up the phone without considering the offer.

[buddha]

maybe a trade like Millsap + Carroll + Schroder + the Brooklyn pick for Griffin + Barnes would make some sense.

first rounder might turn into Kelly Oubre

Chris Paul / Dennis Schroder
JJ Reddick / Jamal Crawford
DeMarre Carroll / Kelly Oubre
Paul Millsap
DeAndre Jordan / Spencer Hawes


Jeff Teague / Shelvin Mack
Kyle Korver / Kent Bazemore
Matt Barnes / Thabo Sefolosha
Blake Griffin / Mike Scott
Al Horford / Pero Antic

both teams might be getting better.

[Fire Colangelo]

What happens in a year or two when Paul starts declining?

If Paul and West couldn't win in their primes, how can they win in their corpses?

Not to mention those picks other than 2015 would end up in the 20s range because the Pacers will be contending with PG and BG.

Solomon Hill and CJ Miles aren't exactly assets. They're both shooting below 40% for the season...

If I'm trading BG, I'm taking back no less than young talent and a top 5 pick.

[iamgine]

LMAO Blake Griffin for a 34 years old plus garbage :roll:

[qrich]

I think our friend forgot to put Paul George in there with another first round pick.

[RightToCensor]

I'm starting to think you people forgot Blake doesn't play both sides of the ball.

[qrich]

I'm starting to think you people forgot Blake doesn't play both sides of the ball.

:facepalm

Griffin's Opponent Counterpart per 48 has a per of 15.7.

Compared to some "good" defenders and fellow bigs:
Noah: 17.0
Duncan: 15.8
RoLo: 15.4
Ibaka: 14.9
Davis: 14.4
Hibbert: 17.0
Dwight: 16.1
Green: 13.2
Bogut: 16.5
Marc: 11.8
Chandler: 16.2
Mozgov: 20.1
Andy V: 20.6
Horford: 20.4

Obviously, stats aren't the best way to track defense, but to say he only plays one side of the ball is ignorant.

But hey, if you think the value of the league's second best PF is a 34 year old leftover free agent, two guys that are fodders, a late lotto/mid teens and two other late picks, then more power to you.

[Fudge]

RG, remember when I told you to stop posting?

I was being serious.

[ButterFace]

Dumb trade. Maybe if Clips needed more depth, but they don't.

[Thorpesaurous]

I wouldn't do the proposed trade for a bunch of reasons. But the general notion of moving Blake I'm not hugely opposed to. The Atlanta deal Buddha suggests I like more, although I'm not sure I'd do that either.

The issue is this team has spacing issues with everyone out there at once. And because of DeAndre's defense and rebounding, and his simple Roll game on offense, which matches so well with Paul's game, it looks pretty good when they have more room. Blake is taking up similar space near the elbows and along the baseline. And while in a vacuum he's clearly a better offensive player than DeAndre, his skills aren't always in use when Paul's got the ball anyway. And he doesn't space the floor that well anyway.

So I get it. And he could certainly get a good sum in a trade. But he's sort of the face of that teams' transformation even moreso than Paul.

What you'd really want is a real stretch four who can also defend on the perimeter some. Or an oversized SF even who can masquerade as a four and stretch the floor. Millsap isn't a terrible idea. Love would be wasted in a lot of the same ways he's being wasted now. Obviously Ryan Anderson isn't good enough.

The player I suspect Jabari Parker could turn into would be a really nice fit. But you'd need more than that if you were the Clips.