Better performance all-time: Kyrie's 57 or Lebron's 61? [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

CavaliersFTW

03-13-2015, 01:44 AM

20Four

03-13-2015, 01:44 AM

rlsmooth775

03-13-2015, 01:46 AM

Question was bound to come up, so here it is first. Who's performance was better all-time?

Kyrie's was nothing short of jaw-dropping. Lebron's 61 was amazing. But Kyrie left me speechless tonight. 16 points in the 4th, buzzer beater game tying 3 to send it into over time where he proceeded to drop 11 more points for the W against the reigning champs. And this is a FOLLOWUP career high this season to his 55 that he dropped to win a game without Lebron. Kid is balling out of his mind I gotta go with him.

What does the rest of ISH think?

Obviously the spurs are way better than the bobcats. Probably second all time in cavs history besides Lebrons playoff game against detroit.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

03-13-2015, 01:46 AM

Kyrie's without question. Against the defending champs including some of biggest late-game daggers I've seen in a regular season matchup.

JT123

03-13-2015, 01:46 AM

Kyrie was great tonight, but 61 >>>>>>>>> 57.
Plus Lebron's 61 was against a top 5 defense and he didn't need overtime.

Cold soul

03-13-2015, 01:46 AM

Kyrie game was better and against much better opponent.

navy

03-13-2015, 01:46 AM

Kyrie's because he needed those clutch baskets to win a tough road game vs the defending champs.

Lebron scored more so in history 60 > 50 if we are just going by the record book

Cocaine80s

03-13-2015, 01:47 AM

Both are better than Wilt's 100, i would have to flip a coin

JT123

03-13-2015, 01:47 AM

Kyrie's without question. Against the defending champs including some of biggest late-game daggers I've seen in a regular season matchup.
:facepalm Prisoner of the moment.

CavaliersFTW

03-13-2015, 01:47 AM

Kyrie was great tonight, but 61 >>>>>>>>> 57.
Plus Lebron's 61 was against a top 5 defense and he didn't need overtime.
The Bobcats? :oldlol:

Kyrie dropped 57 on the REIGNING CHAMPIONS and FORCED the game into over time with a buzzer beater 3 :no:

Fudge

03-13-2015, 01:47 AM

How is this even a question?

LeBron was still in the game, trying to score in the 4th quarter, when his team was UP 20 points. :oldlol: Most statpadded effort en route to 62. Not to mention, it was against the Bobcats. Melo's was even more impressive.

It's not even a debate. Kyrie's, easily.

yarrak

03-13-2015, 01:47 AM

LeBron did it without OT and was out of the game before the game was over. So gotta give him the edge.

Kyrie, tonight was something else though. It was absolutely unbelievable.

SugarHill

03-13-2015, 01:48 AM

http://i.imgur.com/P5ArU7Z.gif

Cavalier

03-13-2015, 01:49 AM

:lol 13-14 Bobcats vs. 14-15 defending champion Spurs c'mon bruh

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

03-13-2015, 01:49 AM

:facepalm Prisoner of the moment.
You freaking love me, admit it.

J Shuttlesworth

03-13-2015, 01:50 AM

61 > 57. LeBron had a crazy third quarter that game.

Kyrie's reminded me more of LeBron's 25 straight against the Pistons, but not in the playoffs. All three were great performances, but I think Kyrie was under 50 in regulation.

CavaliersFTW

03-13-2015, 01:50 AM

LeBron did it without OT and was out of the game before the game was over. So gotta give him the edge.

Kyrie, tonight was something else though. It was absolutely unbelievable.
In other words he cut his teeth on a shit team? Where as Kyrie was keeping the Cavs afloat in the clutch against the reigning champs? Got it.

Kyrie all the way :applause:

Mr. Jabbar

03-13-2015, 01:52 AM

Kyrie, by a pretty wide margin.

rlsmooth775

03-13-2015, 01:53 AM

Kyrie, by a pretty wide margin.

It was better than kobes 81 to

JT123

03-13-2015, 01:53 AM

LeBron did it without OT and was out of the game before the game was over. So gotta give him the edge.

Kyrie, tonight was something else though. It was absolutely unbelievable.
This. Why is Lebron being punished for taking care of business IN REGULATION? :hammerhead:

Real14

03-13-2015, 01:54 AM

Kyrie's 57:applause:

Droid101

03-13-2015, 01:54 AM

Kyrie not close. If you didn't watch this game, you don't understand. He took this shit over and won it.

Black Mamba's B

03-13-2015, 01:55 AM

I think a better comparison would be Bron when he went ape shit against the Pistons to Kyrie tonight. But for this topic, Kyrie>>>>>>>

RedBlackAttack

03-13-2015, 01:55 AM

Question was bound to come up, so here it is first. Who's performance was better all-time?

Kyrie's was nothing short of jaw-dropping. Lebron's 61 was amazing. But Kyrie left me speechless tonight. 16 points in the 4th, buzzer beater game tying 3 to send it into over time where he proceeded to drop 11 more points for the W against the reigning champs. And this is a FOLLOWUP career high this season to his 55 that he dropped to win a game without Lebron. Kid is balling out of his mind I gotta go with him.

What does the rest of ISH think?
Not JUST the game-tying three to send it to OT, but he also hit an impossible three on the possession before with the team down 6 and 30 seconds left in regulation. If either of those shots miss, the game is over.

I didn't watch LeBron's 61 in real-time, so it is impossible for me to compare. But, what I saw tonight -- points aside -- from just a clutch perspective was off-the-charts.

SugarHill

03-13-2015, 01:57 AM

http://i.imgur.com/DDbLOA1.gif

CavaliersFTW

03-13-2015, 01:58 AM

Not JUST the game-tying three to send it to OT, but he also hit an impossible three on the possession before with the team down 6 and 30 seconds left in regulation. If either of those shots miss, the game is over.

I didn't watch LeBron's 61 in real-time, so it is impossible for me to compare. But, what I saw tonight -- points aside -- from just a clutch perspective was off-the-charts.
Yeah as I was watching the game unfold I (knowing how Kyrie can play when he gets hot) kind of half heartedly started wondering what would happen if he started going off when the game was within 6 or 7..

...and then he did

...impossible shot after impossible shot :biggums:

When he he those shots I was laughing at the tv both times and every shot he hit after that, it was ridiculous it left me speechless. How can someone be that dialed in in the clutch? I just can't believe it he played like a man possessed and everything was going in like it was open gym night.

Cold soul

03-13-2015, 01:58 AM

Kyrie was a clutch God tonight. :bowdown:

scandisk_

03-13-2015, 01:58 AM

57! KINGRIE WAS UNREAL! :eek:

CavaliersFTW

03-13-2015, 02:00 AM

http://i.imgur.com/DDbLOA1.gif
Jesus. :bowdown:

Droid101

03-13-2015, 02:00 AM

Kyrie MVP? In my NBA?

It's more likely than you think.

9erempiree

03-13-2015, 02:02 AM

I have to go with Kyrie because of the arsenal he brought tonight. He scored those points in different fashions.

He has really matured as a player. He is just too damn clutch.

KembaWalker

03-13-2015, 02:08 AM

Kyrie.

Tonight's game was the most points scored by a Cav in a regular season game, previous holder, LeBron

He beat LeBron's record right in front of him, ALPHA

CavaliersFTW

03-13-2015, 02:09 AM

I have to go with Kyrie because of the arsenal he brought tonight. He scored those points in different fashions.

He has really matured as a player. He is just too damn clutch.
The way he can split perimeter defenders is unreal. The way he gets to the basket weaving in between and among the trees is unreal. The way he finishes with his off hand just as well or seemingly better than his dominant hand is unreal. It's like he can slice the defense to pieces any time he wants.

Then if he gets a hot hand from the perimeter? Game over, how do you stop him!? He beat a team tonight all by himself that was playing great TEAM BALL.

Hero ball is definitely not dead so long as Kyrie is in the league. Some people shit on that word but damn, when a superstar scorer is on fire there's just nothing you can do. It's like watching glimpses of prime Kobe and Jordan when you see a player go off like that taking fearless shots.

k0kakw0rld

03-13-2015, 02:30 AM

Kyrie was great tonight, but 61 >>>>>>>>> 57.
Plus Lebron's 61 was against a top 5 defense and he didn't need overtime.
agreed.

k0kakw0rld

03-13-2015, 02:31 AM

Kyrie.

Tonight's game was the most points scored by a Cav in a regular season game, previous holder, LeBron

He beat LeBron's record right in front of him, ALPHA
same thing LeBron did to Wade.

KembaWalker

03-13-2015, 02:39 AM

same thing LeBron did to Wade.

God damn i didn't even realize, thought Wade had higher from some reason, iight I take that back, I'mma have to check box scores

Ehh, Wade didn't even play that game Kyrie's 57 >>>>

sportjames23

03-13-2015, 06:17 AM

Whomever had the better competition had the better performance, IMO.

JohnFreeman

03-13-2015, 06:21 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHaSiWClteQ

nzahir

03-13-2015, 07:32 AM

The Bobcats? :oldlol:

Kyrie dropped 57 on the REIGNING CHAMPIONS and FORCED the game into over time with a buzzer beater 3 :no:
Bobcats were a top 5 d at the time and lebron didnt need overtime; but as a lebron fan kyries game was just a bit more special. Lebron hit big shot after shot as well in that game but kyries 3 to send the cavs to OT was bigger.
So im going with kyrie, barely but lebron will always be remembered for his 61 being more than kyries.

Lebronxrings

03-13-2015, 07:36 AM

Lebrons 61.

If kobes 81>>>>61 according to kobe stans then 61>>>>>>57 am i right?

Not to mention lebron had control over the game and lead a group of scrubs through to the win. Without lebron on the cavs, they would have lost since no one could hit the clutch shots.

nzahir

03-13-2015, 07:36 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHaSiWClteQ
This was way better than any of those 2 performances. One of the best playoff performances ever. Stat line was 48 pts 55% 9 and 7 but it was the point that he had 25 points in a row and 29 of 30 and the gw that was special. Top 5 performance of all time arguably. Against the best defense too; prime tayshaun prince, a very good ben wallace, and still had rasheed wallace and antionio m.

G0ATbe

03-13-2015, 07:36 AM

Kyrie easily. Reminded me of a vintage Kobe game. He hit so many clutch shots.

LeBald got to 61 by playing in garbage time. It was an embarrassment.

sd3035

03-13-2015, 08:39 AM

Spurs or bobcats, hmmm lol

If you consider that a guy playing bran's position dropped more points against the Bobcats a few weeks earlier, the decision becomes even easier

sd3035

03-13-2015, 08:41 AM

Bran's was at home, while Kyrie's was on the road against the toughest team in the league, breaking an all time record for an opponent in their building; also tying the all time record overall for an opponent

SilkkTheShocker

03-13-2015, 08:46 AM

sd3035

03-13-2015, 08:52 AM

Irving. But lets not act the OP didn't start watching current basketball again once LeBron came back. From 2010-2014 he was beating off to grainy Wilt highlights on a dusty projector in his stepdad's basemment.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

magic chiongson

03-13-2015, 10:28 AM

almost the same argument as 81 vs 100.

lebron scored 61 in a blowout against one of the worst teams in the league.

kyrie scored 57 against the defending champions in an overtime game.

christian1923

03-13-2015, 10:34 AM

61 obviously

There's something magical about hitting the 60 mark. A lot of guys have scored 50

pauk

03-13-2015, 10:37 AM

Lebron's 61 (more than 57) happened in less minutes, hitting more shots / jumpshots that he entirely created himself, some shots he took from 30-35 feet etc. (he was simply on fire) and with ZERO help/productions from teammates..... just take a look at the boxscore http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400489766 Wade/Bosh were just sitting on the bench and watching Lebron completely by himself put this game away from start to finish.....

Kyrie's 57 (less than 61) happened with more minutes with MASSIVE help.... It would have been just as guys around here call it "empty stats" (as it would been a loss) if Lebron's offensive & defensive presence for example was not around that game, especially if he wouldnt have hit those 3's & FTs in the clutch there....

JUDGE WITNESS

03-13-2015, 10:44 AM

kyrie did it against a team thats overwhelmingly better so gotta go with him

pauk

03-13-2015, 10:49 AM

kyrie did it against a team thats overwhelmingly better so gotta go with him

Well, in that case Lebron has games like this against even better teams... and in playoffs.... like the one he scored 29 of their last 31 points... with multiple gametying shots and a gamewinner in OT.... http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=270531008 .... and again didnt get any 31 pts from a teammate who also was trying to shut down any player defensively and also hit clutch shots....

34-24 Footwork

03-13-2015, 11:13 AM

Lol. When will the media admit that Kyrie>Lebron in 2015?

55 came against the Blazers. 57 against the Spurs. Both performances were better than LeBron's 61 against the Shitcats...

20Four

03-13-2015, 11:15 AM

Irving. But lets not act the OP didn't start watching current basketball again once LeBron came back. From 2010-2014 he was beating off to grainy Wilt highlights on a dusty projector in his stepdad's basemment.
With all that burger flipping you have time to post on INSIDEHOOPS? da fck? You are a joke on these forums silk the only value you have on these forums is for us to laugh at

34-24 Footwork

03-13-2015, 11:16 AM

Just found this quote from Kyrie from last night post game:

"You just try to shoot every shot the same," Irving said. "As long as my elbow's pointed at the rim, I feel like it has a great chance to go in. I learned that from Kobe Bryant...Mainly it was just from my teammates believing in me and continuing to give me the ball."

Damn. Lol.

20Four

03-13-2015, 11:17 AM

riseagainst

03-13-2015, 11:17 AM

http://i.imgur.com/P5ArU7Z.gif

:biggums:

:bowdown:
:bowdown:
:bowdown:

RRR3

03-13-2015, 11:18 AM

Kyrie scores 55 w/o LeBron: "derp LBJ holds him back doe derrrrr"
Kyrie scores 57 with LeBron: "herrrr derrrrr LeBron beta lol Kingrie derrrrr"

You guys are ****ing **********s. You move the goalposts every time just so LeBron can't win in your feeble minds and you can feel "safe" that someone you irrationally hate more than anything in the world didn't perform "too well".

34-24 Footwork

03-13-2015, 11:20 AM

The way Kyrie plays, I'm inclined to believe that no part of of his game came from Lebron. Probably didn't even watch Lebron growing up. Lol.

Kyrie doesn't have that stiff-arming Cyborg vibe.

Trollsmasher

03-13-2015, 11:24 AM

The way Kyrie plays, I'm inclined to believe that no part of of his game came from Lebron. Probably didn't even watch Lebron growing up. Lol.

Kyrie doesn't have that stiff-arming Cyborg vibe.
probably the reason he never got into the playoffs

Kyrie has been great this season, but let's not act like he is even a top 15 player in the league

34-24 Footwork

03-13-2015, 11:31 AM

probably the reason he never got into the playoffs

Kyrie has been great this season, but let's not act like he is even a top 15 player in the league

Lol. Probably because not many 6'2 point guards have led their respective shitty teams to the playoffs.

There's nothing Lebron can teach Kyrie when It comes to basketball, outside of flopping.

Megabox!

03-13-2015, 11:33 AM

Lebron nut huggers getting sonned....GO FVCKING SHINE MY SHOES LEBRONZE FAMILY!!!!!!
Uhh you do realize that's a chucker's mentality right? JR Smith probably feels the exact same way whenever he shoots

Lebron23

03-13-2015, 11:34 AM

LeBron James

Kobe stans needs to STFU. Blame your boy lacks of Basketball IQ that's why he only won 1 NBA MVP, and 2 NBA Finals MVP in almost 2 decades.

34-24 Footwork

03-13-2015, 11:35 AM

Chuckers mentality= 5 Rings

Cyborg Stiff-arming Stat Padder = 2 rings in a historically weak eastern conference

DMAVS41

03-13-2015, 11:36 AM

Kyrie and it isn't close for me.

The context of what Kyrie did in a close game against a streaking championship Spurs team on the road...that easily trumps Lebron's 61 in a pretty easy win.

Not taking away from Lebron...it was obviously a great game and the Bobcats played really good defense, but it just wasn't the same type of performance in my opinion.

What Kyrie did last night was historic. Nobody in NBA history (or at least since we started keeping the stats) has scored 57 plus on that kind of shooting from the 3 point line and ft line...let alone make the kind of clutch shots/plays he did.

It was off the charts good.

Lebron23

03-13-2015, 11:37 AM

Chuckers mentality= 5 Rings

Cyborg Stiff-arming Stat Padder = 2 rings in a historically weak eastern conference

2/7 in Finals MVP

The most inefficient Finals performer among the Top 10 greatest players of all time. (25.3 ppg on 41.2 FG%)

He only averaged 15.6 ppg in the 2000 NBA Finals. The Lakers still beat the Pacers in 6 games.

34-24 Footwork

03-13-2015, 11:42 AM

2/7 in Finals MVP

The most inefficient Finals performer among the Top 10 greatest players of all time. (25.3 ppg on 41.2 FG%)

He only averaged 15.6 ppg in the 2000 NBA Finals. The Lakers still beat the Pacers in 6 games.

Care to post his playoff averages in the western conference before Jalen Rose intentionally injured him in the finals?

Kobe dominated competition that was much tougher than anything Lebron has faced... He faced that competition before he was 23 years old. But keep moving the goal post kiddo.

Lebron23

03-13-2015, 11:44 AM

Care to post his playoff averages in the western conference before Jalen Rose intentionally injured him in the finals?

Kobe dominated competition that was much tougher than anything Lebron has faced... He faced that competition before he was 23 years old. But keep moving the goal post kiddo.

We are talking about Kobe's finals performance against the Leastern Conference. LeBron is also a great conference finals performer.

pegasus

03-13-2015, 11:45 AM

Kyrie's by a wide margin. One of the best performances in a regular season game. And now the face of their franchise holds the franchise record.:applause:

34-24 Footwork

03-13-2015, 11:51 AM

We are talking about Kobe's finals performance against the Leastern Conference. LeBron is also a great conference finals performer.

Look kid. The competition Kobe played against in the playoffs of Western Conference (2000-2004) is miles ahead every team Lebron has played outside the 2014 Spurs.

Hey Yo

03-13-2015, 12:09 PM

Lol. Probably because not many 6'2 point guards have led their respective shitty teams to the playoffs.

There's nothing Lebron can teach Kyrie when It comes to basketball, outside of flopping.
:oldlol:

Not the fault of others that you can't obviously see that LeBron has made Kyrie an all-around better player in such a short time.

Hey Yo

03-13-2015, 12:11 PM

Look kid. The competition Kobe played against in the playoffs of Western Conference (2000-2004) is miles ahead every team Lebron has played outside the 2014 Spurs.
Right on que, every time.

"The real Finals was"

34-24 Footwork

03-13-2015, 12:24 PM

Ironically Bran stans cherry pick box score numbers that's suitable for their agenda. Lol. And right on que, a mention of the 2000 Finals with no mention of Jalen intentionally injuring him. Jalen Rose mentions it all the tim. Why can't you guys?

riseagainst

03-13-2015, 12:24 PM

it's Kyrie and it's not even close....

Wally450

03-13-2015, 02:05 PM

Kyrie's was better. Against a better team in their building. Just absolutely took shit over.

imdaman99

03-13-2015, 02:10 PM

Kyrie's but I think it was helped out by another Kawhi choke at the line :facepalm

Felt like I was watching 2013 Finals all over again. Another great shooter bails someone out.

Fire Colangelo

03-13-2015, 02:36 PM

Irving.

I was at a bar last night and they had the game on one television where nobody was really paying attention. By the 4th quarter the game was on all the televisions and everybody was watching the game. Every shot Kyrie hit people were going crazy like it was a playoff game lmao. It was almost like playoffs atmosphere

Dro

03-13-2015, 02:48 PM

:oldlol:

Not the fault of others that you can't obviously see that LeBron has made Kyrie an all-around better player in such a short time.
How has LEBRON made him a better player instead of Kyrie just improving. Please prove this.....I'm not saying he has or he hasn't...

SugarHill

03-13-2015, 02:49 PM

http://i.imgur.com/ajuBtQT.gif

SwishSquared

03-13-2015, 02:52 PM

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Haberstroh said that all but 2 of Kyrie's FGA were contested last night. He shot 8/8 when defender was 1 foot away and was like 10/12 when defender was 2 feet away. Unreal brilliance. Kyrie was throwing fire balls at the basket last night.

chazzy

03-13-2015, 02:56 PM

:oldlol:

Not the fault of others that you can't obviously see that LeBron has made Kyrie an all-around better player in such a short time.
Yeah the way Lebron was setting Kyrie up during his 55 point game was unreal, was basically spoonfeeding him every basket.

RedBlackAttack

03-13-2015, 03:05 PM

How has LEBRON made him a better player instead of Kyrie just improving. Please prove this.....I'm not saying he has or he hasn't...
Sucks to see such a great performance and game being used by the anti-James crowd against the (admittedly annoying) LeBron stans.

Kyrie has played perfectly off of LeBron all season long. I've watched every Cavs game that KI has ever played. His confidence on this particular team, playing off of LeBron's strengths, has him in a place where he wasn't going to reach just by natural progression.

I'll give you that some of the improvements that people have seen this year is due to him maturing both physically and mentally and just being a more experienced player. But, the attention that LBJ gets from defenses every time he steps on the floor opens the game up for Kyrie (and vice-versa, btw).

Because Kyrie is such a great shooter, it doesn't have to be a "my turn, your turn" situation in isolation. They do some of that, but not totally out of necessity. They do it because they're both so damn good in isolation.

For those of us who've been watching since KI's first game, his gifts have always been totally apparent. However, when he was being asked to be the team's scorer, playmaker and leader, opponents knew where to focus all of their energy.

With LeBron on the same floor and Love to a lesser extent, it becomes impossible to give Kyrie that kind of undivided attention. You saw the results of that last night and it has been on display most of this season.

Dro

03-13-2015, 03:49 PM

Sucks to see such a great performance and game being used by the anti-James crowd against the (admittedly annoying) LeBron stans.

Kyrie has played perfectly off of LeBron all season long. I've watched every Cavs game that KI has ever played. His confidence on this particular team, playing off of LeBron's strengths, has him in a place where he wasn't going to reach just by natural progression.

I'll give you that some of the improvements that people have seen this year is due to him maturing both physically and mentally and just being a more experienced player. But, the attention that LBJ gets from defenses every time he steps on the floor opens the game up for Kyrie (and vice-versa, btw).

Because Kyrie is such a great shooter, it doesn't have to be a "my turn, your turn" situation in isolation. They do some of that, but not totally out of necessity. They do it because they're both so damn good in isolation.

For those of us who've been watching since KI's first game, his gifts have always been totally apparent. However, when he was being asked to be the team's scorer, playmaker and leader, opponents knew where to focus all of their energy.

With LeBron on the same floor and Love to a lesser extent, it becomes impossible to give Kyrie that kind of undivided attention. You saw the results of that last night and it has been on display most of this season.
Good analysis. Thank you. repped

SHAQisGOAT

03-13-2015, 03:53 PM

Kyrie's performance got freaking crzy at some point... Then those two clutch buckets and the OT, shit...

oarabbus

03-13-2015, 04:07 PM

Whomever had the better competition had the better performance, IMO.

Agreed, Elgin Baylor 61 in the finals against the legend Bill Russell >>>> Jordan's 63 requiring 2OT. It's not even close.

CavaliersFTW

03-13-2015, 04:10 PM

Agreed, Elgin Baylor 61 in the finals against the legend Bill Russell >>>> Jordan's 63 requiring 2OT. It's not even close.
Not to mention he was guarded by Satch Sanders, a top 3 defensive forward of the entire 1960's decade (Satch Sanders, Gus Johnson, and Dave DeBusschere are the three forwards that played the best defense in that decade).

J Shuttlesworth

03-13-2015, 04:10 PM

How has LEBRON made him a better player instead of Kyrie just improving. Please prove this.....I'm not saying he has or he hasn't...
I mean RBA answered it well, but it's only natural that a player will get better looks when they are no longer the primary focus from the opponent's defense. Wade/Bosh's efficiency skyrocketed playing with LeBron because they were able to pick their spots instead of being relied on to put up 25 a game. In general, playing with a great playmaker will get you good looks. Mozgov, Smith, and Shumpert are also getting great looks and having good seasons.

Dro

03-13-2015, 04:22 PM

I mean RBA answered it well, but it's only natural that a player will get better looks when they are no longer the primary focus from the opponent's defense. Wade/Bosh's efficiency skyrocketed playing with LeBron because they were able to pick their spots instead of being relied on to put up 25 a game. In general, playing with a great playmaker will get you good looks. Mozgov, Smith, and Shumpert are also getting great looks and having good seasons.
I agree with you, Lebron's presence has really opened the floor for Kyrie.