Put an 18 yrs.old Rookie Shaq with the Philadelphia Warriors in the 1960's

[Lebron23]

How many NBA titles??

http://www.cbssports.com/images/fans/celebrity/shaq/gym/shaq_lsu1a.jpg

http://ballislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/shaq-kneepads-1.jpg


Here are his sidekicks

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/15-paul-arizin-hometown-sports-heroes.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Tom_Gola_1958.jpeg/228px-Tom_Gola_1958.jpeg

[Cocaine80s]

All championships before the 80s are invalid tbh

So it wouldnt really matter

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTQD3C8Muco

Shaq at LSU.

[warriorfan]

First possession of NBA career, Shaq gets the ball downlow and raises up with a 2 hand slam while hanging on the rim. 18 year old Shaq hustles back down the floor and posterizes some 5'11'' beta male accountant looking dude going for a soft lay up. Shaq runs the floor again gets the ball down low and goes up jamming it as he hangs on the rim. As Shaq goes to dismount off the rim Jim Loscutoff shoulder charges Shaq's thighs as the big one falls on his head and breaks his neck and never plays again.



Career Stats. 4 points, 1 block, 100% FG percentage.

[CavaliersFTW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B7jVTJ_CIE

Wilt's the better player and the Celtics Dynasty was unbeatable save for two times so, probably none.

He also wouldn't be allowed to run players over. So if that jump hook wasn't falling... well. He wouldn't be having a good night.

[CavaliersFTW]

First position of NBA career, Shaq gets the ball downlow and raises up with a 2 hand slam while hanging on the rim. 18 year old Shaq hustles back down the floor and posterizes some 5'11'' beta male accountant looking dude going for a soft lay up. Shaq runs the floor again gets the ball down low and goes up jamming it as he hangs on the rim. As Shaq goes to dismount off the rim Jim Jim Loscutoff shoulder charges Shaq's thighs as the big one falls on his head and breaks his neck and never plays again.



Career Stats. 4 points, 1 block, 100% FG percentage.
:oldlol:

nvm what I said ^ this

Jungle Jim Loscotuff would take care of business :roll:

[MavsSuperFan]

Basically Shaq would be the 5th face on Mount Rushmore, because of his dominance over 6'5 centers of that era

[ThePhantomCreep]

Shaq's work ethic on a 50k salary. :lol

[Lebron23]

70 ppg, 32 rpg on 70 FG%.

[CavaliersFTW]

Basically Shaq would be the 5th face on Mount Rushmore, because of his dominance over 6'5 centers of that era
Yeah. Look at him when he met 3 of those 6-5 centers.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kf1oH-0whOs/UuR-cdmKiFI/AAAAAAAAE7A/Yh6mIY8ygkQ/s800/Sequence%252001.Still009.jpg

He looks like Wilt's kid brother. Would be hilarious watching Wilt move him around like a rag doll in a couple of grainy clips, while kids 40 years later referred even to him as just more of Wilt's weak 6-5 competition :lol

[Lebron23]

Shaq's work ethic on a 50k salary. :lol

Shaq had a good work ethic. And He's also a better playoffs and finals performer than Kobe "Low Basketball IQ" Bryant.

[Lebron23]

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-18676-Shaq-Disrespectful-Dunk-gif-nzTL.gif

http://exnba.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/shaq-lakers-dunk.gif

http://goldenrankings.com/ngolden41/ShaqSICover01-91.gif

[CavaliersFTW]

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-18676-Shaq-Disrespectful-Dunk-gif-nzTL.gif

http://goldenrankings.com/ngolden41/ShaqSICover01-91.gif
Sorry but Shaq would get his Jaw Broken in the golden era of big men if he did that. Centers in the 60's were not only tougher than Chris freaking Dudley, but rosters were further stacked with hatchet men and enforcers and/or sometimes their centers WERE their enforcers a-la Willis Reed. I'd love to see Shaq try that on Reed:

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/willis_reed-300x450.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKL7y7n5_Rc

Like I said. Broken jaw.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Shaq had a good work ethic.

Stopped reading here. Too busy laughing.

[Lebron23]

Sorry but Shaq would get his Jaw Broken in the golden era of big men if he did that. Centers in the 60's were not only tougher than Chris freaking Dudley, but rosters were further stacked with hatchet men and enforcers and/or sometimes their centers WERE their enforcers a-la Willis Reed. I'd love to see Shaq try that on Reed:

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/willis_reed-300x450.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKL7y7n5_Rc

Like I said. Broken jaw.


But seriously Shaq out played the best center in the 1990's and in the 2000's. You can check his stats against the best centers of his time.


Stopped reading here. Too busy laughing.

He's just became injury prone.

[CavaliersFTW]

But seriously Shaq out played the best center in the 1990's and in the 2000's. You can check his stats against the best center of his time.
I happen to believe Wilt, Russell, and Kareem are the best 3 centers to ever play though.

So I personally don't care what numbers he put up against other centers. He's a great player himself. But I think Wilt, Russell, and Jabbar are better.

He'd be playing against them, plus Nate Thurmond, Walt Bellamy, Bob Lanier, Unseld, Cowens... He would be playing HOF tier and/or GOAT tier big men MORE then than he ever did in his own era.

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSN1KnAW-Y

NBA Vault: Shaquille O'Neal Rookie Year Highlights

[RoundMoundOfReb]

79/44/12/13 minimum.

[deja vu]

LOL at old-timers saying that Shaq would be stopped/limited in the 60s. He would be dunking all over the place and make Wilt his bitch.

It would be the Shaq era.

Sounds like Shakira. LOL

[AirFederer]

Yeah. Look at him when he met 3 of those 6-5 centers.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kf1oH-0whOs/UuR-cdmKiFI/AAAAAAAAE7A/Yh6mIY8ygkQ/s800/Sequence%252001.Still009.jpg

He looks like Wilt's kid brother. Would be hilarious watching Wilt move him around like a rag doll in a couple of grainy clips, while kids 40 years later referred even to him as just more of Wilt's weak 6-5 competition :lol

If you think Wilt would handle Shaq like a rag doll, when Shaq is obviously a lot heavier and more explosive, you are very delusional and naive.

[Lebron23]

Total Domination


I think they would still beat Russell Celtic's cause Shaq was just a very unstoppable player. And He would be a much more dominant player in a league where there were only 8-12 NBA Teams.

[Papaya Petee]

More points, less rebounds than Wilt

52 PPG 17 RPB seasons are believable.

[Elosha]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B7jVTJ_CIE

Wilt's the better player and the Celtics Dynasty was unbeatable save for two times so, probably none.

He also wouldn't be allowed to run players over. So if that jump hook wasn't falling... well. He wouldn't be having a good night.

You can legitimately argue that Wilt was better than Shaq or vice-versa, but you're fooling yourself to think that Shaq wouldn't have been able to do much in the 60's if his "jump hook wasn't falling." Even if the refs wouldn't let Shaq destroy people like he did in the 90's and 00's, Shaq could adjust. He had a wider, heavier body and lower center of gravity than Wilt, so I believe he could even more easily establish position than Wilt. He'd still be getting 4-5 dunks a night at least, multiple layups, put backs, jump hooks turnaround jumpers.

I think Wilt and Shaq would have been very comparable in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's etc. I personally think Wilt was a bit more skilled in his offensive repertoire, and Shaq was larger and a bit more physically dominant. Whether that means Shaq would have won two or more championships during the Celtics dynasty, who knows.

[Elosha]

Yeah. Look at him when he met 3 of those 6-5 centers.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kf1oH-0whOs/UuR-cdmKiFI/AAAAAAAAE7A/Yh6mIY8ygkQ/s800/Sequence%252001.Still009.jpg

He looks like Wilt's kid brother. Would be hilarious watching Wilt move him around like a rag doll in a couple of grainy clips, while kids 40 years later referred even to him as just more of Wilt's weak 6-5 competition :lol

Wilt is closer to the camera in that pic than Shaq. He also looks taller than KAJ and we know that isn't true. Plus you're comparing a first or second year Shaq at probably around 280, to a Wilt who probably weighed over 300. Why don't you compare pics of a 21 year old Shaq to a 21 year old Wilt. Shaq would dwarf him. And Shaq at his prime was substantially heavier than Wilt's prime. Overall Shaq's just a bigger, wider, and heavier player than Wilt was during his playing days, although I'd agree that Wilt is slightly taller with a bit greater reach.

[D-FENS]

Sorry but Shaq would get his Jaw Broken in the golden era of big men if he did that. Centers in the 60's were not only tougher than Chris freaking Dudley, but rosters were further stacked with hatchet men and enforcers and/or sometimes their centers WERE their enforcers a-la Willis Reed. I'd love to see Shaq try that on Reed:

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/willis_reed-300x450.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKL7y7n5_Rc

Like I said. Broken jaw.

I do like to make fun of old time players, but I do have to admit, Thurmond and Reed look like scary dudes. Unskilled, and unathletic, but still scary dudes.

[salwan]

Russell >

[Psileas]

Put an 18 yrs.old Rookie Shaq with the Philadelphia Warriors in the 1960's

I can tell you this, OP (and 60's bashers), since you recently created another Shaq related thread:

1) 2000 Shaq >> 18 y.o Shaq
2) 60's centers >> Pete Chillcutt (not even a C) and Chris Dudley
3) 60's offensive rules =/= 90's/00's offensive rules

Shaq isn't smelling the same dominance he reached against a non center scrub against the likes of Wilt, Russell, Thurmond, Hayes, etc.

[warriorfan]

shaq can only play at a low pace with offensive fouling allowed, can't be on the court in close out because of free throw liabilities, not that good of a player, he wouldn't crack the starting rotation

[HomieWeMajor]

He would have dominated those white centers so bad the FBI would have assassinated him.

[CavaliersFTW]

He would have dominated those white centers so bad the FBI would have assassinated him.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kf1oH-0whOs/UuR-cdmKiFI/AAAAAAAAE7A/Yh6mIY8ygkQ/s800/Sequence%252001.Still009.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kf1oH-0whOs/UuR-cdmKiFI/AAAAAAAAE7A/Yh6mIY8ygkQ/s800/Sequence%252001.Still009.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kf1oH-0whOs/UuR-cdmKiFI/AAAAAAAAE7A/Yh6mIY8ygkQ/s800/Sequence%252001.Still009.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kf1oH-0whOs/UuR-cdmKiFI/AAAAAAAAE7A/Yh6mIY8ygkQ/s800/Sequence%252001.Still009.jpg

[Ariza4three]

CavsFTW in meltdown mode

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://i33.tinypic.com/25q817l.jpg

[LAZERUSS]

http://i33.tinypic.com/25q817l.jpg

This guy averaged 26 ppg and 12 rpg last season...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7TnbhJr8iY

And how about these career H2H's...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=curryed01&p2=onealsh01

Oh, and how about this 6-8 guy's defense on Shaq...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg3BiOw4TWo

[LAZERUSS]

BTW, Shaq would have been great in the 60's. But he would have had to adapt his game.

On this one sequence alone, he would have fouled out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3FXLyNFew

No way the NBA in the 60's would have allowed that.

[Nash]

http://i33.tinypic.com/25q817l.jpg
kyrie is jealous of these moves

[Ass Dan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTQD3C8Muco

Shaq at LSU.

Peak Shaq was the most unstoppable force in the modern era (Jordan included).

Trouble is, peak Shaq didn't last very long.

He should have been the GOAT, this video only reaffirms that.

Wasted opportunity.

[CavaliersFTW]

Peak Shaq was the most unstoppable force in the modern era (Jordan included).

Trouble is, peak Shaq didn't last very long.

He should have been the GOAT, this video only reaffirms that.

Wasted opportunity.
It does not affirm that.

It shows he only dunked off lobs at LSU.

That means you only score on backdoor plays created not by you, but by your guards/forwards.

You will never be the GOAT scoring only off backdoor plays and rebounds. Based on that LSU video Shaq was destined to be a bigger Deandre Jordan.

Shaq got way better than that LSU video indicated, he actually played in the post. All that video showed was the athletic entertaining plays not technically challenging/skilled basketball plays he eventually learned - those are more impressive IMO.

Still, he never rebounded or played defense like Wilt Chamberlain so these Wilt comparisons are tiresome. Physically it's of course an interesting matchup. But actual production? Wilt was doing more things for his teams.

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKH03PQDVGg

Shaquille O'Neal (34p/15r) vs Alonzo Mourning (35p/6r) - Highlights 1994/95 season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XivZd3mRVw


David Robinson (36p/13r/7a/6b) vs Shaquille O'Neal (32p/11r) - Highlights 1993/94 Season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKICLZfKMG0

41 points vs. Dikembe Mutombo in the NBA Finals

Shaq always had great games against great defensive NBA Centers.

[Marchesk]

I'm going with the strong era:

http://ballislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Shaquille-ONeal-Dunks-On-JaVale-McGee.jpg

http://media.oregonlive.com/nba_impact/photo/spshaqjpg-f8b23fe6547e30ad.jpg

http://media.nbcbayarea.com/images/633725.jpg

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/gameon/2013/03/27/ap-heat-bulls-basketball-x-large.jpg

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3800199/lebronskid.gif

[dreamwarrior]

Shaq was an incredible player and all, but he never would have had the stamina to play an insane amount of minutes to put up monster numbers, which is why he rarely scored over 40 a game and averaging less than 35mpg for his career.

[Marchesk]

Shaq was an incredible player and all, but he never would have had the stamina to play an insane amount of minutes to put up monster numbers, which is why he rarely scored over 40 a game and averaging less than 35mpg for his career.

Yeah, he might have put up great numbers back then being that he's a freak of nature, but he wouldn't be playing Wilt minutes. I don't think Shaq gets 40 shots a game on 48 minutes. That's just insane.

Both Wilt and Shaq our outliers, but in different ways.

[inclinerator]

cavsftw is a joke :facepalm

[jongib369]

I really hate that rag doll quote. As strong as Wilt was it's going to be hard moving someone who's not only strong as hell himself, but heavier than you, has a lower center of gravity, with feet the size of aircraft carriers (22s vs 15). Wilt's the superior athlete, faster, stronger, could jump higher, more stamina, longer etc....with the way they called fouls then they likely wouldn't budge each other...But Wilt would give Shaq a lot of problems more than the other way around, especially with the way Handchecking was called back then.

Anyways with that said it'd be interesting to see Shaq in the 60s. I've seen the types of offensive fouls called on big men and it wasn't even a sliver of the bulldozing Shaq did....So his game would be totally different....He might of actually played a lot like Wilt :lol

2nd-3rd best center in the league, if he's lucky 1 or 2 rings

[The_Pharcyde]

He would put up crazy numbers cause he is an all time great

Then you would have dumb kids on forums saying shaq wouldn't be able to play today cause everyone he played against was a 6'5 white beta

That's exactly what would happen

[StephHamann]

Shaq probably wins 15 rings from 1960-1970 and 18 finalsmvps