Cavs should trade KLove

[ISHGoat]

We dont need this unathletic 6'6 white 3pt chucker. Trade him for a long non-pylon that can defend the 4

[Eric Cartman]

How about Kevin Love for Anthony Bennett and Andrew Wiggins?

[ISHGoat]

How about Kevin Love for Anthony Bennett and Andrew Wiggins?

Nah, believe it or not, andrew wiggins wouldnt get the minutes and would be playing Shumpert's role, along defensive guard.

We need someone like Ibaka or Cody Zeller

[sd3035]

How about Kevin Love for Anthony Bennett and Andrew Wiggins?

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[ralph_i_el]

Nah, believe it or not, andrew wiggins wouldnt get the minutes and would be playing Shumpert's role, along defensive guard.

We need someone like Ibaka or Cody Zeller

Love for Zeller+Henderson (if he isn't going to resign in Cleveland)???

I think Cody Zeller is going to be a really valuable player at some point. He's held back by his midget wingspan, but he's probably the most underrated pure athlete in the league. The dude is legit quick and fast. Decent shooter too.

[D-FENS]

I don't see a good trade for Love, he's a bum. Not even an all-star in the east LOL

[Lebron23]

He's averaging 17 ppg, and 10.1 rpg as a 3rd scoring option those are solid numbers.

[returnofthemack]

No, they shouldn't. Gonna need Kevin in the playoffs. Regular season success doesn't mean a whole lot. There will be a big playoff game the cavs win because of Kevin Love.

[RRR3]

They really should. Love is a waste of talent on that team. Ibaka could fill his role and Love could go somewhere else where he could be "the guy" again. Plus Ibaka>>>> on defense

[DMAVS41]

They can't trade him people.

The deadline has passed and he's likely to opt out...

Now, the win/win here might be him opting in and agreeing with the Cavs to trade him this summer.

That way he can get to a situation he likes and allows him to participate in the huge cap increase coming in 2017 for his max deal.

[Lebron23]

They really should. Love is a waste of talent on that team. Ibaka could fill his role and Love could go somewhere else where he could be "the guy" again. Plus Ibaka>>>> on defense


He's doing better than Bosh's first year in Miami.

[DMAVS41]

I think things could get interesting if Love opts in and agrees with Cavs to trade him.

If I was the Cavs and this happened....there would be a lot of deals out there obviously...and they'd still have that Haywood contract to make another move as well.

I'd like to see the Cavs go after a guy like Avery Bradley. I think he'd be just about the perfect fit next to Kyrie/Lebron. A quality defender that can hit open 3's and doesn't need the ball.

Love for Bradley/Olynk/Crowder/filler and a first round pick...something like that.

Then the Cavs make another move with the Haywood contract. This way it makes sense for them to keep Thompson as well.

[returnofthemack]

The real season (postseason) hasn't even begun yet and people are convinced love wants out. We will see what's what after the playoffs. I don't understamd the logic of being a first option on a terrible team as being better then 3rd option on a legit championship contender. Winning is important and the Dan Gilbert will pay whatever it takes to keep love.

[DMAVS41]

The real season (postseason) hasn't even begun yet and people are convinced love wants out. We will see what's what after the playoffs. I don't understamd the logic of being a first option on a terrible team as being better then 3rd option on a legit championship contender. Winning is important and the Dan Gilbert will pay whatever it takes to keep love.

Oh I agree, but it just seems like Love is the type of guy/player that won't like being the "Bosh" of this team.

I personally think he'll either just opt out and sign with another team or opt in and work out a trade if the Cavs lose.

But it's just guessing at this point.

To me, I think he'd have a more enjoyable career going to a team like the Celtics. Being the man...and playing for a great coach in my opinion.

Thomas, Smart, and Love with loads of cap space and tons of picks in the East with Brad coaching? I really like that.

[ButterFace]

Wolves not trading Wiggins straight up for Love at this point. Who could the Cavs even land for Love?

[Cavalier]

Kevin was having issues with his back last night which is why he sat in the fourth quarter. It must be nice to be able to sit and still win against the defending champs.

[uber]

No, they shouldn't. Gonna need Kevin in the playoffs. Regular season success doesn't mean a whole lot. There will be a big playoff game the cavs win because of Kevin Love.

Yep, Kevin Love with all his playoff experience.

[imdaman99]

Yep, Kevin Love with all his playoff experience.
What about Kyrie Irving's playoff experience? :rolleyes:

What does OP mean by "we"? Pretty sure branstans don't qualify as Cav fans.

They will clearly need Love in the playoffs, whether it is to grab a rebound or hit a spot up 3.

[D-FENS]

Kevin was having issues with his back last night which is why he sat in the fourth quarter. It must be nice to be able to sit and still win against the defending champs.

It gets better, the fat white guy that can't jump now has a bad back as well...
I bet teams are excited about throwing big money at him in FA :rolleyes:

[uber]

What about Kyrie Irving's playoff experience? :rolleyes:

What does OP mean by "we"? Pretty sure branstans don't qualify as Cav fans.

They will clearly need Love in the playoffs, whether it is to grab a rebound or hit a spot up 3.

you know what i meant .. he said they are going to win a game because of Love in the playoffs ..

[el gringos]

They can't trade him people.

The deadline has passed and he's likely to opt out...

Now, the win/win here might be him opting in and agreeing with the Cavs to trade him this summer.

That way he can get to a situation he likes and allows him to participate in the huge cap increase coming in 2017 for his max deal.
Sad that you were the 1st to bring reality into this. They can't trade him.


Him opting in and agreeing to a trade is even a little far fetched. IMO the guy is a good enough player and still has enough value that he could opt out and even sign a 1 year deal if he wanted to.


This cap spike is a crazy thing. Some stuff will happen that makes absolutely no sense at all for a few years.


Still believe Kevin love is the Knicks best shot at adding a star. And let's be honest about those chances. 5 or 10% chance?

[El Gato Negro]

love isnt going anywhere. :cheers:

[FireDavidKahn]

Love:oldlol: Such a fall from grace.

[Hittin_Shots]

I think things could get interesting if Love opts in and agrees with Cavs to trade him.

If I was the Cavs and this happened....there would be a lot of deals out there obviously...and they'd still have that Haywood contract to make another move as well.

I'd like to see the Cavs go after a guy like Avery Bradley. I think he'd be just about the perfect fit next to Kyrie/Lebron. A quality defender that can hit open 3's and doesn't need the ball.

Love for Bradley/Olynk/Crowder/filler and a first round pick...something like that.

Then the Cavs make another move with the Haywood contract. This way it makes sense for them to keep Thompson as well.

Opt in to lose the team he will be sent to the pieces that will be around him Instead of just signing with them?

[FireDavidKahn]

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hahaha RT @mcten: Kevin Love was just in the tunnel when Blatt tried to sub him in. Mike Miller had to sprint to go fetch him.
11:33 PM - 12 Mar 2015

Poor Love was ready to go home.:oldlol:

Looks so disinterested here.
Sad Love is sad (https://vine.co/v/OjletqW6i5V)


I wish I was little bit taller
I wish I was a baller
I wish I had a girl who looked good
I would call her:roll:

[El Gato Negro]

They really should. Love is a waste of talent on that team. Ibaka could fill his role and Love could go somewhere else where he could be "the guy" again. Plus Ibaka>>>> on defense
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B__NZbAU0AA0hcb.png

[El Gato Negro]

Poor Love was ready to go home.:oldlol:

Looks so disinterested here.
Sad Love is sad (https://vine.co/v/OjletqW6i5V)

:roll:
not nearly as sad as the wolves franchise.:roll:

[returnofthemack]

you know what i meant .. he said they are going to win a game because of Love in the playoffs ..

Never said he had playoff experience. If you think love isn't going to show up in the playoffs that's fine. I think he will. Star talent shows in the playoffs. always does. If love does somthing in the playoffs that propels the cavs forward (a win they otherwise wouldn't get if they didnt have love) then the trade for wiggins was worth it. Love is capable of big games. He's had plenty of very good games in this season. It's get over shadowed by Lebron and Kyrie but once the playoffs start everything will be under a microscope and a big game by love will not go unnoticed.

Love is going to be key to the cavs championship aspirations. Just like Bosh had some huge playoffs games for Miami. We will find out soon enough.

[hawksdogsbraves]

The real season (postseason) hasn't even begun yet and people are convinced love wants out. We will see what's what after the playoffs. I don't understamd the logic of being a first option on a terrible team as being better then 3rd option on a legit championship contender. Winning is important and the Dan Gilbert will pay whatever it takes to keep love.

He went from being a franchise player, an All-NBA guy on a Hall of Fame track, to being a non-All Star third option spot up shooter. All while still in the middle of his prime.

That's going to take a toll on you unless you're a complete *****, even if the team is winning.

[returnofthemack]

He went from being a franchise player, an All-NBA guy on a Hall of Fame track, to being a non-All Star third option spot up shooter. All while still in the middle of his prime.

That's going to take a toll on you unless you're a complete *****, even if the team is winning.

he's still adjusting. Obviously the cavs of 2015 are not the wolves of 2014. everything ran through love last year. Playing with Lebron and Kyrie that is no longer an option. I'm sure it's affecting him but the cure is simple, a deep playoff run.

[hawksdogsbraves]

he's still adjusting. Obviously the cavs of 2015 are not the wolves of 2014. everything ran through love last year. Playing with Lebron and Kyrie that is no longer an option. I'm sure it's affecting him but the cure is simple, a deep playoff run.

Maybe.

It's like Dante said, "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven."

Are you ok being the third option fringe all-star on an elite team? Or do you want to be the franchise player darling of the city on your own team that probably won't be winning championships?

I know winning rings is a big deal, but I'd rather try to do it as 'the guy' than play bottom bitch to two other dudes.

[jayfan]

How about Kevin Love for Anthony Bennett and Andrew Wiggins?

Don't forget the first round draft pick, too.









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[Uncle Drew]

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Trade his ass already.

[DMAVS41]

Opt in to lose the team he will be sent to the pieces that will be around him Instead of just signing with them?

It's so he can make more money in 2017 with the huge cap increase.

You think he's going to give that up if he knows he can play 1 more good year and then get maxed out by a team like the Celtics?

I don't think losing Olynk, Crowder, and Bradley and a first rounder...like my hypothetical trade moves the needle much on Love's decision.

Do you realize how much more money he could make if someone paid him the max after the cap increase than before it? It's going to be enormous if he's a max player....which he is in the right situation in my opinion.

[Replay32]

The trade deadline has past

[returnofthemack]

Maybe.

It's like Dante said, "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven."

Are you ok being the third option fringe all-star on an elite team? Or do you want to be the franchise player darling of the city on your own team that probably won't be winning championships?

I know winning rings is a big deal, but I'd rather try to do it as 'the guy' than play bottom bitch to two other dudes.


Calling him a bottom bitch is a little overboard. I seriously doubt anyone thinks of Kevin love that way. Fact is none of those guys (Lebron, Kyrie and Love) could do it themselves. It's a team game and being the third option on a team that has the potential to go on a run of winning multiple championships doesn't sound to bad to me.

If being top dog on a crap team was so I portent to him why didn't he just tell the Twolves he would resign?

Love isn't going anywhere for the moment. I could see him signing another single year contract in anticipation of the next CBA. Who knows after that. I think the cavs have a serious chance of winning right now. Give them another year to really become a team and there might not be a team that could stop them. How the playoffs turn out will determine everything. Losing in the finals might not be good enough for Lebron but it might just be good enough for Love.

[HurricaneKid]

Dumb thread. The trade deadline has long since passed and KL is a FA at the end of the year.

[DMAVS41]

Calling him a bottom bitch is a little overboard. I seriously doubt anyone thinks of Kevin love that way. Fact is none of those guys (Lebron, Kyrie and Love) could do it themselves. It's a team game and being the third option on a team that has the potential to go on a run of winning multiple championships doesn't sound to bad to me.

If being top dog on a crap team was so I portent to him why didn't he just tell the Twolves he would resign?

Love isn't going anywhere for the moment. I could see him signing another single year contract in anticipation of the next CBA. Who knows after that. I think the cavs have a serious chance of winning right now. Give them another year to really become a team and there might not be a team that could stop them. How the playoffs turn out will determine everything. Losing in the finals might not be good enough for Lebron but it might just be good enough for Love.

He doesn't have to sign another contract. He can opt in on his current deal iirc and then be a free agent next year.

[SwishSquared]

He doesn't have to sign another contract. He can opt in on his current deal iirc and then be a free agent next year.True but if he opts out, then signs a 2-year deal (with PO the second season) he'd get an extra $1.5M or so for next season apparently. Plus it gives him a little insurance in case of injury. If he does sign a 1-year deal this summer, I believe it gives him a no-trade clause (saw Kevin Pelton write this today, I think).

Also, it makes a LOT more sense for somebody like him to get a 5 year max in 2016. If the cap is at ~$90M and he has enough years to qualify for the 30% max (I think you need 7 years to get to that level), we're talking a starting salary of like $27M instead of the $20.25M or so (assuming $67.5M cap) he'd get this summer in a 5 year max. My numbers might not be completely correct but the financial windfall is significant for waiting just 1 year to sign the mega deal.

[warriorfan]

Kevin Love has been exposed as a stat padding fraud.

I remember watching Kevin Love get his 53 game double double streak ended @ Golden State. It was hilarious he was trying to grab rebounds from his teammates and just pouting like a huge bitch. Seriously looked like he was about to cry. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[coin24]

Only beta LeBald stans (no balls like there hero) would prefer to be a third option nobody than the man on there own team.:facepalm

Get out of there kevin, just don't come to the lakers:lol

[returnofthemack]

Only beta LeBald stans (no balls like there hero) would prefer to be a third option nobody than the man on there own team.:facepalm

Get out of there kevin, just don't come to the lakers:lol

Only beta people would ever use the phrase "lebald stan"

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Only beta people would ever use the phrase "lebald stan"
:applause:

[retaxis]

Kids don't need to consider thinking too hard about whether you want to be a superstar or a third option, chances are your going to end up making minimum wage you entire lives living paycheck to paycheck (off to a great start with your internet trolling).

What Cleveland needs is a 4 man who can guard the PnR and is long and athletic. Someone who can catch alley oops and block a shot here and there and make some wide open shots aka lengthy stretch 4. Love can't block shots, can't guard pick and rolls and he is a locker room cancer. Use his contract money to resign Tristan and another starting 4.

[kenny817]

No, they shouldn't. Gonna need Kevin in the playoffs. Regular season success doesn't mean a whole lot. There will be a big playoff game the cavs win because of Kevin Love.

He's never even sniffed the playoffs before...how do you know this?

[Jailblazers7]

Love just needs time and the team needs to find out how to use him. Bosh already said it to took him a year to fund his role and it's the same with Love.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Kids don't need to consider thinking too hard about whether you want to be a superstar or a third option, chances are your going to end up making minimum wage you entire lives living paycheck to paycheck (off to a great start with your internet trolling).

What Cleveland needs is a 4 man who can guard the PnR and is long and athletic. Someone who can catch alley oops and block a shot here and there and make some wide open shots aka lengthy stretch 4. Love can't block shots, can't guard pick and rolls and he is a locker room cancer. Use his contract money to resign Tristan and another starting 4.

:oldlol:

Spoken with the eloquence of someone who probably works in the service industry :oldlol:

[R.I.P.]

Kevin Love is hilarious. Now he complains about not being a stretch four, but a post-up player. Mofo you took 7!!!! three pointers PER GAME last year. Tell that to Sota fans. You have no ****ing inside game, that

[Hittin_Shots]

It's so he can make more money in 2017 with the huge cap increase.

You think he's going to give that up if he knows he can play 1 more good year and then get maxed out by a team like the Celtics?

I don't think losing Olynk, Crowder, and Bradley and a first rounder...like my hypothetical trade moves the needle much on Love's decision.

Do you realize how much more money he could make if someone paid him the max after the cap increase than before it? It's going to be enormous if he's a max player....which he is in the right situation in my opinion.

Could they give him a one year deal then a new deal the following season when cap increased though?

Not sure a team with Klove as their focal point ala wolves is gonna go to far anyway.

[DMAVS41]

Could they give him a one year deal then a new deal the following season when cap increased though?

Not sure a team with Klove as their focal point ala wolves is gonna go to far anyway.

Sure.

I don't know. It's hard because the Wolves with Love on the court last year were actually destroying teams. That team wasn't good because when Love went to the bench...they collapsed.

It's hard to know about Love because we just haven't seen him enough in the kind of situations that tell you how good a player truly is.

Hasn't played a playoff game yet and now he's in a situation that allows him to play at maybe 70% his optimal level.

Unless of course you are Kblaze...who claims he doesn't even need to see Love play a playoff game to know exactly how good he is. Kblaze...:bowdown:

[JT123]

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Kevin Love is hilarious. Now he complains about not being a stretch four, but a post-up player. Mofo you took 7!!!! three pointers PER GAME last year. Tell that to Sota fans. You have no ****ing inside game, that

[Milbuck]

The problem with Love is that you have to cultivate the perfect setting for him to succeed. Not only the perfect setting for him to succeed individually, like the Wolves had, but also talent-wise around him so that the team can actually win. It just seems that that might be too tall a task to accomplish without just saying '**** it, be a 2nd-3rd option'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQe28xz5SKM

^^ I don't know how anyone can watch that guy and not think he can be an absolute ANIMAL in the right setting. Right now he's dealing with nagging injury problems, he's playing way out of his comfort zone, all of his flaws are being amplified and his strengths are being repressed. A lot of it is his own fault...a lot...but he truly can be a beast if you put him in a position to succeed.

[Lebron23]

Kevin Love is averaging 17 ppg, and 10 rpg. He needs to accept his role, and hit his 3 pointers in the playoffs. He might actually become a future hall of famer if he wins more than 2 NBA titles in Cleveland.

[nzahir]

:applause: Don't know where this myth came from that Love is an elite post player. Half the time he can't even establish position in the post, and when he does his moves just look awkward and forced.
Hes ranked #2 in post scoring efficiency bud...
Blatt is just not using him properly; he isnt meant to just sit at the 3pt line the whole game or we are wasting his talents. I get it when lebron is on the floor he should be spacing the floor more but at some times he should get some post ups. And when lebron is out that is when he should get a lot of post ups.

[Nash]

honestly, love's issue is that he misses A LOT. He's getting many of the same shots he used to get with Minny(not as many attempts for obvious reasons) but he misses them.
Dude's FG is at 43%, that is terrible.

[Hey Yo]

Kevin Love is averaging 17 ppg, and 10 rpg. He needs to accept his role, and hit his 3 pointers in the playoffs. He might actually become a future hall of famer if he wins more than 2 NBA titles in Cleveland.
If the trade doesn't go down and Love is putting up 25 and 13 for the T-Wolves, while Wiggins isn't seeing as much playing time, playing pedestrian for the Cavs, the same people wanting him shipped out would be saying " see....should have traded for Love"

[Cocaine80s]

Love+ Devleoda+Perkins for Durant