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WallIn
03-13-2015, 10:54 AM
This guy has been amazing.

Tycriss
03-13-2015, 10:58 AM
Wilt Gobertlain :bowdown:

Lebron23
03-13-2015, 10:59 AM
Rudy "Full Stats" Gobert.

3peated
03-13-2015, 10:59 AM
2little2late lmao

imdaman99
03-13-2015, 11:12 AM
He da real MVP :applause:

11-2 ---> 68-14 record, or something like that :pimp:

Rake2204
03-13-2015, 11:36 AM
Whoa, am I mathematizing correct? 14 rebounds per game as a starter, including games of 15 & 24 and 19 & 22?! I'm bummed I've been in the dark on Utah of late. Looks like a fun run.

Sidenote, Rudy's basketballreference currently has four nicknames and they're all nearly as delightfully awful as the last: The Stifle Tower, The French Rejection, The Gobert Report, and Gobzilla.

Milbuck
03-13-2015, 11:49 AM
Whoa, am I mathematizing correct? 14 rebounds per game as a starter, including games of 15 & 24 and 19 & 22?! I'm bummed I've been in the dark on Utah of late. Looks like a fun run.

Sidenote, Rudy's basketballreference currently has four nicknames and they're all nearly as delightfully awful as the last: The Stifle Tower, The French Rejection, The Gobert Report, and Gobzilla.
How you could you forget......Bloque Cousteau :oldlol:

KyrieTheFuture
03-13-2015, 11:52 AM
Dude legit has the best nicknames ever. Buck, imagine him on milwaukee. That length.

JohnMax
03-13-2015, 11:52 AM
gobert would have 11 championships if he played in the 60s

Milbuck
03-13-2015, 11:58 AM
Dude legit has the best nicknames ever. Buck, imagine him on milwaukee. That length.
He's literally the perfect player for us. He's like a giant version of Sanders at his best, minus all the mental issues. Just LOL at adding Gobert to what is already the #2 defense in the league. That's some 04 Pistons shit right there, or better.

I could definitely see him challenging Mutombo and Big Ben's DPOY records.

Wally450
03-13-2015, 11:59 AM
Arguably the best C in the league. :bowdown:

magnax1
03-13-2015, 12:49 PM
Mark Eaton 2.0
Also Gobert's official nickname is Rudy Gummybears.

navy
03-13-2015, 01:39 PM
Messing up the tank

joshwake
03-13-2015, 01:40 PM
Exciting to watch, and this is a very likeable Jazz team. Hopefully they can get a couple vets in the offseason and make a dent in the WC playoffs.

joshwake
03-13-2015, 01:51 PM
Messing up the tank
very true, but on the other side of the coin, they do have to start improving at some point, and you cannot put a price on experience while winning.

Also, the young core is pretty solid, the main need is a couple vets

And don't forget how well Utah drafts late:
Paul Milsap 47th
Mo Williams 47th
Wesley Mathews (undrafted)
Kirilenko (24th)
Rudy Gobert (traded from Denver for Utah's 46th)

I was kindof hoping for one more tank year too, but I won't complain about them winning at this point. I think they have a solid core to build on.

the
03-13-2015, 01:56 PM
Whoa, am I mathematizing correct? 14 rebounds per game as a starter, including games of 15 & 24 and 19 & 22?! I'm bummed I've been in the dark on Utah of late. Looks like a fun run.

Sidenote, Rudy's basketballreference currently has four nicknames and they're all nearly as delightfully awful as the last: The Stifle Tower, The French Rejection, The Gobert Report, and Gobzilla.

I like the Gobert Report, but they forgot Gobstopper.

Fudge
03-13-2015, 01:58 PM
Best player/most impactful player on the Jazz.

Might be a stretch, but if they can somehow bring back Wes Matthews, or even Dragic, I think this team is set to become a threat next year.

Goran Dragic
Alec Burks
Gordon Hayward
Derrick Favors
Rudy Gobert

Trey Burke/Dante Exum
Wes Matthews
Gordon Hayward
Derrick Favors
Rudy Gobert

:eek:

I'm hard af.

Xiao Yao You
03-13-2015, 02:41 PM
Mark Eaton 2.0
Also Gobert's official nickname is Rudy Gummybears.

Except that Mark was just big not actually good. With his salute's recently they need to start playing AC/DC's For Those About to Block, We Salute you.


Messing up the tank

Would have been a playoff team this year if they hadn't been tanking. No excuses for the front office next year.

You forgot Hood, Fudge. He's the one that's actually looking like a rotation player since his return. They need a proven NBA caliber starting pg(if not a back-up as well) and a back-up center minimum.

Done_And_Done
03-13-2015, 02:56 PM
Whoa, am I mathematizing correct? 14 rebounds per game as a starter, including games of 15 & 24 and 19 & 22?! I'm bummed I've been in the dark on Utah of late. Looks like a fun run.

Sidenote, Rudy's basketballreference currently has four nicknames and they're all nearly as delightfully awful as the last: The Stifle Tower, The French Rejection, The Gobert Report, and Gobzilla.

The Gobert Report lol

These are so bad you can't help but to laugh in jest

QuebecBaller
03-13-2015, 03:16 PM
The French Phenom :bowdown: :bowdown:

SHAQisGOAT
03-13-2015, 03:45 PM
Really like to watch him play, dude's very long and very athletic, already pretty impactful. Hayward's their best player but a guy like Gobert has terrific potential in this league.


Mark Eaton 2.0
Also Gobert's official nickname is Rudy Gummybears.

Very different players though...

Spking of Eaton, he had some terrific defensive years as far as impact, underrated at that. That was huge but he wasn't much more.

sammichoffate
03-13-2015, 03:48 PM
Lakers could have gotten this guy before they traded the pick away to Cleveland in 2012, easily the biggest steal of that draft :(

Smoke117
03-13-2015, 04:01 PM
Amusing how the two teams they did lose to are the Lakers and Celtics.

joshwake
03-13-2015, 04:09 PM
Lakers could have gotten this guy before they traded the pick away to Cleveland in 2012, easily the biggest steal of that draft :(
Every team in the NBA "could have gotten this guy"
27th pick by Denver, traded to Utah for 47th (Eric Green) and cash (I think it was 1 mil)

Denver is the real team that should be feeling stupid right now.:hammerhead: :banghead: :facepalm

oarabbus
03-13-2015, 04:11 PM
Whoa, am I mathematizing correct? 14 rebounds per game as a starter, including games of 15 & 24 and 19 & 22?! I'm bummed I've been in the dark on Utah of late. Looks like a fun run.

Sidenote, Rudy's basketballreference currently has four nicknames and they're all nearly as delightfully awful as the last: The Stifle Tower, The French Rejection, The Gobert Report, and Gobzilla.

The Gobert Report is fantastic.

For those Arrested Development fans out there, he also can be known as

A Magician named Gob

And don't forget Rudy GOATbert

Choke94
03-13-2015, 04:12 PM
I can already see it happening; 2 years from now, Jazz Vs Pelicans at the playoffs, Rudy Best Defender in the League Vs AD, Best Player in the World!!
Oh man, it's gonna be legend... Wait for it...:rockon:

Xiao Yao You
03-13-2015, 05:39 PM
Every team in the NBA "could have gotten this guy"
27th pick by Denver, traded to Utah for 47th (Eric Green) and cash (I think it was 1 mil)

Denver is the real team that should be feeling stupid right now.:hammerhead: :banghead: :facepalm

Denver was known to be selling the pick before the draft.

JimmyMcAdocious
03-13-2015, 05:57 PM
Seems like these GMs out think themselves in the draft.

Like with Gobert, how do you not take a chance on the guy just on his unheard of measurables in a terrible draft? For instance, what made Lucas Nogueira so much a better prospect that he gets picked at 16 in the same draft? Both relatively unknown players at the time with little production overseas.

Draft profiles
http://www.nba.com/draft/2013/prospects/lucas-nogueira/
http://www.nba.com/draft/2013/prospects/rudy-gobert/

I'd rather risk drafting the next Ajinca with the potential upside of Gobert is now showing than some one dimensional, undersized wing, you always see cluttering up the late first/early second.

JebronLames
03-13-2015, 06:00 PM
hope he rests his ankle the next few games. Need him fresh for fantasy playoffs.

CakeorDeath
03-13-2015, 09:22 PM
Except that Mark was just big not actually good. With his salute's recently they need to start playing AC/DC's For Those About to Block, We Salute you.



Would have been a playoff team this year if they hadn't been tanking. No excuses for the front office next year.

You forgot Hood, Fudge. He's the one that's actually looking like a rotation player since his return. They need a proven NBA caliber starting pg(if not a back-up as well) and a back-up center minimum.

Exum is NBA quality on the strength of his defense alone. As good as Gobert is, Exum's ability to stay in front of his man, cut down penetration, and use his length to get a hand in the face of outside shooters has had a big impact on the Jazz's defensive improvement. A big upgrade over Trey.

The only change to the starting 5 next year should be Alec Burks replacing Ingles. That 5 should be scary good defensively and much better offensively than they are with Ingles, if for no bigger reason than the fact that they'll be better in transition.

They do need another PG (Trey isnt in the long term picture, IMO), another swingman, and a backup C. Here next year should be Exum, Burks, Hayward, Favors, Gobert, Hood, Booker, and 3 vets to fill the positions I mentioned. That's the core rotation.

Maybe the backup PG is Neto, but he sure doesn't look ready. Too small to defend at the NBA level and can't shoot a lick. Reasonable playmaking skills though. Tomic might be a serviceable back up C but I don't think he'll ever come over

Xiao Yao You
03-13-2015, 11:17 PM
Exum is NBA quality on the strength of his defense alone. As good as Gobert is, Exum's ability to stay in front of his man, cut down penetration, and use his length to get a hand in the face of outside shooters has had a big impact on the Jazz's defensive improvement. A big upgrade over Trey.

An upgrade over Trey isn't saying much. Trey hasn't shown he's an NBAer yet and until Exum can consistently hit an open 3 at least(which he has done recently) he shouldn't be in the rotation either.


The only change to the starting 5 next year should be Alec Burks replacing Ingles.

Unless Exum can hit an open 3 he shouldn't be starting or playing. Hood could make sense with Burks off the bench. I'm sure they'll try to make it work with Alec's new deal but I'm not sure him and Hayward are a good match in the starting 5 and Alec has to step it up. Hopefully it was just his shoulder bugging him.


That 5 should be scary good defensively and much better offensively than they are with Ingles, if for no bigger reason than the fact that they'll be better in transition.

And Ingles isn't a rotation player either unless he can hit the 3.


They do need another PG (Trey isnt in the long term picture, IMO), another swingman, and a backup C. Here next year should be Exum, Burks, Hayward, Favors, Gobert, Hood, Booker, and 3 vets to fill the positions I mentioned. That's the core rotation.

Millsap and Ingles could play but they got to hit open 3's too. Millsap is certainly comparable to Exum defensively and even Ingles can cause some problems.


Maybe the backup PG is Neto, but he sure doesn't look ready. Too small to defend at the NBA level and can't shoot a lick. Reasonable playmaking skills though.

Neto is better than Burke and a better fit though. Looked good defensively in the World's. Needs to be able to hit 3's as well.


Tomic might be a serviceable back up C but I don't think he'll ever come over

Sounds like the Jazz want him and are ready to spend money on his buyout. Rather he wants to play 15-20 minutes a night who knows. Lindsey didn't act like Pleiss was ready. Love to see Koufos back.

No one should be given minutes next year. They need to be earned.

ArbitraryWater
03-14-2015, 08:53 AM
When was he inserted into the lineup? Date?

Because in their last 13 games they are 10-3.

ImKobe
03-14-2015, 08:57 AM
14 rpg 3 bpg in 33.7 mpg during this stretch no less..


GOATbert

too bad he has a team option :(

SOD 21
03-14-2015, 11:21 AM
Rudy Gobert has a defensive rating of 92 as a starter. That's impressive.

SOD 21
03-14-2015, 11:24 AM
Rudy Gobert has actually started their last 11 games, not 13, and the Jazz are 9-2 over that time with impressive wins on the road at Memphis and at home against Portland, SA and Houston.

He was inserted into the starting line-up on 2/20 against Portland, at least according to Basketball Reference.com,and that was eleven games ago.

magnax1
03-14-2015, 11:29 AM
An upgrade over Trey isn't saying much. Trey hasn't shown he's an NBAer yet and until Exum can consistently hit an open 3 at least(which he has done recently) he shouldn't be in the rotation either.
You don't need lots of shooters to make an elite NBA team. Sloan proved this twice by having two of the 25 best offenses ever that shot almost no threes almost a decade apart.

Xiao Yao You
03-14-2015, 12:52 PM
You don't need lots of shooters to make an elite NBA team. Sloan proved this twice by having two of the 25 best offenses ever that shot almost no threes almost a decade apart.

But they are playing a system where they want 3's and lay-ups not mid range stuff. Sloan wanted lay-ups and mid range shots. He never liked the 3. He never adapted to the changing game either especially defensively. Need guys that can hit open 3's in the system they are playing. The game has changed. Not necessarily for the better. Also this team doesn't have 2 of the greatest players ever. Maybe one though! :applause:

Rake2204
03-14-2015, 11:12 PM
How you could you forget......Bloque Cousteau :oldlol:Haha. Bloque Cousteau may be my new frontrunner.

10 points, 17 rebounds, 2 blocks against the Pistons so far. I might be a new fan.

mehyaM24
03-14-2015, 11:33 PM
one of my favorite players already. his game is legit :applause:

ButterFace
03-15-2015, 01:48 AM
Another beastly game and a win.

Fudge
03-15-2015, 02:05 AM
Best Jazz player right now and it's not even close.

Don't give me that Hayward noise. He is still a little boy. Just look at his hair.

imnew09
03-15-2015, 02:10 AM
Gobert to the Lakers


Gobe
Kobe

:bowdown: :bowdown: Next Shaq and Kobe

magnax1
03-15-2015, 02:19 AM
But they are playing a system where they want 3's and lay-ups not mid range stuff. Sloan wanted lay-ups and mid range shots. He never liked the 3. He never adapted to the changing game either especially defensively. Need guys that can hit open 3's in the system they are playing. The game has changed. Not necessarily for the better. Also this team doesn't have 2 of the greatest players ever. Maybe one though! :applause:
The team in 08 ran an offense that was that high of a caliber with boozer and Deron at its center. They just dont need outside shooters. This team has the pieces to play inside out, just like all great offenses do.

WallIn
03-15-2015, 08:33 AM
Jazz will probably finish the season around .500. In 2015/2016 we gonna have yet another up and coming team fighting for the playoffs?

West is getting stronger and stronger. How is this possible?! :oldlol:

CakeorDeath
03-15-2015, 12:34 PM
Exum playing well; defense has been very good and he is 50% on his last 20 three point attempts. Game seems to be coming to him a bit more.

Hood also impressing. Better lateral movement on both sides of the ball than I thought. Clearly been working on his mid range game and obviously doesn't want to be known just as a distance shooter. I think next year they should keep him as a starter and let Alec Burks be the scoring punch off the bench. That's Trey's job this year but I think Trey is moved in the offseason for more veteran help/cap flexibility.

In terms of offseason needs, I hope the Jazz go after Asik and either Wes Matthews or Danny Green. They need another PG too, though I don't like any of the free agent PGs as the right fit, so maybe that comes through a trade. I love Rondo's defense and playmaking, and if he could be a mentor to Exum that would be phenomenal, but that guy is a dick. Would never sign in Utah anyway

magnax1
03-15-2015, 01:00 PM
I would be ecstatic if the Jazz got Mathews.

Xiao Yao You
03-15-2015, 01:45 PM
Exum playing well; defense has been very good and he is 50% on his last 20 three point attempts. Game seems to be coming to him a bit more.

Hood also impressing. Better lateral movement on both sides of the ball than I thought. Clearly been working on his mid range game and obviously doesn't want to be known just as a distance shooter. I think next year they should keep him as a starter and let Alec Burks be the scoring punch off the bench. That's Trey's job this year but I think Trey is moved in the offseason for more veteran help/cap flexibility.

In terms of offseason needs, I hope the Jazz go after Asik and either Wes Matthews or Danny Green. They need another PG too, though I don't like any of the free agent PGs as the right fit, so maybe that comes through a trade. I love Rondo's defense and playmaking, and if he could be a mentor to Exum that would be phenomenal, but that guy is a dick. Would never sign in Utah anyway

Asik doesn't want to be a back-up. Can't see them paying Matthews or Green what it will take to get them with the money they have in Hayward and Burks already. Plus they have Hood who looks ready. They need a pg or 2 and a back-up center that will be happy with 15-20 minutes a night.

MiseryCityTexas
03-15-2015, 02:00 PM
Arguably the best C in the league. :bowdown:

No but at least he's a much better defender than Enes Kanter.

WallIn
03-18-2015, 11:16 AM
Bump

Run continues :applause:

ButterFace
03-18-2015, 01:22 PM
I would be ecstatic if the Jazz got Mathews.

Even after the injury?

Xiao Yao You
03-18-2015, 01:26 PM
Even after the injury?

The injury might make him affordable. With the way Hood and Exum have been playing don't think they need him though.