Mexican drug cartels vs. ISIS

[deja vu]

Two scenarios:

1. Cartels invade Iraq
2. ISIS invades Mexico

Who wins?

[Cactus-Sack]

Brock Lesnar


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[CasterL]

Lol. I think Isis decimates them. I don't care how ruthless and shit either are. It comes down to war is war and isis have way more practice.

[sweggeh]

I think I made this exact same thread a few years back, not with ISIS though, just terrorists in general.

[deja vu]

Lol. I think Isis decimates them. I don't care how ruthless and shit either are. It comes down to war is war and isis have way more practice.
I've read that most cartel members used to be soldiers and highly trained special forces.

[JohnFreeman]

Cartels make ISIS look humanitarian.

[sweggeh]

Cartels have strong links to the police and even control part of the army. They could call on all those allies if this fight ever went down.

[deja vu]

I think I made this exact same thread a few years back, not with ISIS though, just terrorists in general.
Link please.

[wakencdukest]

I've read that most cartel members used to be soldiers and highly trained special forces.



Highly trained special forces in Mexico? :roll: I do believe that if ISIS tried to make a play in Mexico they would be slaughtered. Not only by the cartels, but the Federales, and the Mexican Army. They wouldn't stand for that bullshit, and they wouldn't take prisoners. They'ed kill every last one of them.

[fiddy]

Cartels make ISIS look humanitarian.
You've been slacking on liveleak material bro

[TheMan]

Highly trained special forces in Mexico? :roll: I do believe that if ISIS tried to make a play in Mexico they would be slaughtered. Not only by the cartels, but the Federales, and the Mexican Army. They wouldn't stand for that bullshit, and they wouldn't take prisoners. They'ed kill every last one of them.
Actually it is true, most of the Zetas were trained in the US. Mexico and the US have an agreement were the Mexican Army sends thier best soldiers to the US to get trained by the Navy Seals, Green Berets, Rangers etc. Then they go back to Mexico, finish off thier requiered years of duty, retire from the Army and join a Cartel...obviously not all of them but there's a ton of money for the grabbing and the Cartels are always hirng.

Yeah, ISIS stands no chance if they wanted to invade.

[HitandRun Reggie]

If there is no money in it. The cartels pack up and go home. On the other hand ISIS can't cowardly hide among innocent citizens like they do against Americans and Europeans. The people look different and the cartels don't care, they'd just kill everyone in the vicinity.

[chosen_one6]

Drug cartels give no ****s, and likely have access to more advanced and more powerful weaponry. They've been doing this shit for years. ISIS is relatively new.

[Draz]

Cartels put your mother in a pretzel

[fiddy]

Drug cartels give no ****s, and likely have access to more advanced and more powerful weaponry. They've been doing this shit for years. ISIS is relatively new.
Ignorance at its finest :roll:Them talibans have tanks, armored humvees, RPGs, IEDs and whatnot. They have been around for nearly 20 years under one form or another.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Ignorance at its finest :roll:Them talibans have tanks, armored humvees, RPGs, IEDs and whatnot. They have been around for nearly 20 years under one form or another.

True. But whatever the Mexican military has, the cartels have access to, including their version of a "navy". So those hodgis probably wouldn't even make it to shore.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Ignorance at its finest :roll:Them talibans have tanks, armored humvees, RPGs, IEDs and whatnot. They have been around for nearly 20 years under one form or another.
Did you just call ISIS the Taliban? They're ****ing enemies numb nuts.

[32jazz]

True. But whatever the Mexican military has, the cartels have access to, including their version of a "navy". So those hodgis probably wouldn't even make it to shore.

Iraqi military had advanced US weaponry they received from the US & had to abandon much of it.

Silly hypothetical , but Cartels are interested in personal wealth & self preservation only.

ISIS/Islamic militants are fighting for a much different cause.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Iraqi military had advanced US weaponry they received from the US & had to abandon much of it.

Silly hypothetical , but Cartels are interested in personal wealth & self preservation only.

ISIS/Islamic militants are fighting for a much different cause.
This would never happen because of how ingrained christianity is in Latin culture, but say Islam spreads in central America, they would have a reason I guess. But chances are about absolute zero.

[Lebron23]

ISIS wins this match up. They are a bunch of savages, and a much better trained fighters.

[Eric Cartman]

ISIS are volume killers, while the cartel is selective, picking and choosing it's spots.

The Mexican cartel is in it for the money, much like Carmelo atm, can't respect an organization like that. ISIS would wipe the floor with the cartel, since winning is their #1 goal, 5 games max.

[Brujesino]

the fvck isis does sneak attacks and shit they aint trained fighters

Cartel would destroy them if they went to war.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Cartels obviously wouldnt stand a chance in desert-like conditions against ISIS.
It would be a close battle in Mexico though.

[andgar923]

As mentioned by some, cartels are composed of military and federal police. They are not just highly trained by American forces (directly), they have experienced former American war vets. They send their people to join American special forces or recruit them.

So they simply aren't a bunch of rag tag dudes with weapons.

And yes they also have access to military equipment, whereas ISIS usually doesn't.

Mexican cartels are also funded better than ISIS on par with the Taliban which is state funded ( by multiple countries).

Mexican drug trafficking into the US is $13 Billion a year alone. Who knows how much they bring into other countries.

[Balla_Status]

I think I made this exact same thread a few years back, not with ISIS though, just terrorists in general.

Join Date is April 2014 but you made it a "few" years ago.

Makes sense.

[Rodmantheman]

Drug Cartel easily ISIS are full of cowards.

[pauk]

Mexican Drug Cartels sure hold the most gruesome videos i ever seen in my life though...... seen that video where they chainsaw some people alive one by one? ISIS need to step their game up... :P

[andgar923]

ISIS wins this match up. They are a bunch of savages, and a much better trained fighters.
No on both counts.

Cartels are highly trained and organized and bigger savages. There's tons of sick shit that the cartels have done that ISIS would never do.

[highwhey]

some mexicans look middle eastern (lol)

Anyhow, yall never heard of the zetas. Former special forces that joined the cartel, or they actually overtook one by brute force. Anyhow, these dudes are real savages, they'll go up federalis or marines and start a fight by throwing grenades at them or using their bazookas. Hell, i just went to rocky point which is one of the safest places in mexico bc it's a tourist destination, i saw marines in their humvees with a mounted 50 cal everywhere i went. That's how violent cartels are, they have their army deployed in their own streets.

As for mexican federalis, some of them are corrupt, but it's mostly municipal cops that are corrupt. Ether way, the cartel has authorities on every level in their back pocket.

[JohnFreeman]

You've been slacking on liveleak material bro
The worst stuff I have seen is cartel shit

[SCdac]

Being motivated by money and power is one thing, but it gets to a whole other level of creepy/brainwashed when you start adding fundamentalism and Jihad imo. You get people traveling across the world by the thousands just to join their cult. I'm not denying cartels can be just as brutal if not more, or that they have immense power in Mexico particularly in border cities (my mother is from Laredo and I've been there many times, grew up in SA and we have plenty of violence here too). The level of control the cartels have is enormous everybody knows that. But, there's something irking about a group of people who buy into martyrdom, caliphates, and persecuting infidels to the Nth degree. Not saying it makes them more skilled per se, but more driven to commit genocide and mass murder I'd argue. With cartels I feel like death is less a driving goal and more a byproduct of the violent nature of the business

[tpols]

Being motivated by money and power is one thing, but it gets to a whole other level of creepy/brainwashed when you start adding fundamentalism and Jihad imo. You get people traveling across the world by the thousands just to join their cult. I'm not denying cartels can be just as brutal if not more, or that they have immense power in Mexico particularly in border cities (my mother is from Laredo and I've been there many times, grew up in SA and we have plenty of violence here too). The level of control the cartels have is enormous everybody knows that. But, there's something irking about a group of people who buy into martyrdom, caliphates, and persecuting infidels to the Nth degree. Not saying it makes them more skilled per se, but more driven to commit genocide and mass murder I'd argue. With cartels I feel like death is less a driving goal and more a byproduct of the violent nature of the business

Isis massacre a whole lot of defenseless people.. they don't want real war, just terrorize the public. They could never go head to head with their whole life army trained soldiers and extremely organized units.. it'd be like in black Hawk down when a couple 100 American special forces murked thousands of AK wielding Somalians

[JtotheIzzo]

one is a multi billion dollar enterprise, the other is a bunch of losers from high school playing monkey bars in the desert.

so they f*cked up a few people in the desert, they won`t win a road game, and the drug guys can get planes.

[andgar923]

one thing to consider.....

Those cartel guys are high as f*ck.

They on some shit man, it makes them insane.

[highwhey]

And to those bringing up ISIS and their determination bc of religious beliefs, believe this: narcos have their own saint "malverde" whom they believe blesses their drug transactions and related activities. So long story short, both organizations appeal to a higher being(even tho its obviously a made up being)

Also like andgar said, narcos are known to snort cocaine quite often and especially when going into a gunfight. I know alot of middle easterners do heroin but coke puts you on a whole new level in terms of crazy. Heroin just makes u nod

[andgar923]

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/10/isil-vs-mexican-drugcartelsunitedstatesislamophobia.html

theres other articles stating similar sentiments

[highwhey]

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/10/isil-vs-mexican-drugcartelsunitedstatesislamophobia.html

theres other articles stating similar sentiments
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