Ronda Rousey responds to ISH: Bad idea to fight a man

[dunksby]

Ronda Rousey wouldn't count herself out in a fight against a male opponent, but the undefeated women's UFC bantamweight champion says she doesn't want to face a man for fear of the message that image could convey.

Ronda Rousey celebrates her Feb. 28 victory over Cat Zingano.
"I don't think it's a great idea to have a man hitting a woman on television," Rousey told The Daily Beast on Wednesday. "I'll never say that I'll lose, but you could have a girl getting totally beat up on TV by a guy -- which is a bad image to put across. With all the football [domestic violence] stuff that's been happening, not a good idea. It's fun to theorize about and talk about, but it's something that's much better in theory than fact."

Rousey has been so dominant in the women's bantamweight division that it's becoming difficult to find suitable opponents for her, leading to speculation about potentially squaring off against a man.

Most recently, Rousey defeated the previously unbeaten Cat Zingano in 14 seconds at UFC 184 on Feb. 28.
There you go ISH, Rousey thinks it would send a bad message to show a man beating a woman on TV :applause:

In any case, Rousey has the respect of Manny Pacquiao, who's set to face Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a much-hyped May 2 boxing match. Pacquiao was recently asked if Rousey could beat the undefeated Mayweather.

"I believe so," Pacquiao said. "She's strong. Strong enough to beat Floyd Mayweather in MMA."
:roll:

[KNOW1EDGE]

So basically she knows that women can't compete with men and that she's better off whooping the sh1t out of b1tches rather than getting her a$$ pounder by dudes.

Pretty much what we all already knew.

I would still fuhck doe

[dunksby]

So basically she knows that women can't compete with men and that she's better off whooping the sh1t out of b1tches rather than getting her a$$ pounder by dudes.

Pretty much what we all already knew.

I would still fuhck doe
http://s29.postimg.org/vrh03fn9z/Ronda_Rousey.jpg

[iamgine]

Unless the weight difference is too great, Ronda Rousey will beat any male pure boxer.

[KNOW1EDGE]

http://s29.postimg.org/vrh03fn9z/Ronda_Rousey.jpg

Lol... Dont troll my girl... it's easy to find ugly pictures of any beautiful woman online. Someone try and tell me they would not fuhck her

http://fanmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ronda-rousey-maxim-cover-8.jpg

[ThePhantomCreep]

Unless the weight difference is too great, Ronda Rousey will beat any male pure boxer.

Not a chance. :facepalm

[ThePhantomCreep]

Ronda isn't beating any male professional fighter. She's at a severe genetic disadvantage against your typical 200lbs curlbro at the gym, a male fighter is miles ahead of her.

Lol @ idiots who think she could take Ray Rice. Delusional.

http://athletetattoodatabase.com/img/wiki_up/ray.rice3.jpg

She looks great ragdolling 135lbs females who hit like girls. Leave it at that.

[plowking]

Unless the weight difference is too great, Ronda Rousey will beat any male pure boxer.

She'd lose to a top 10 120lbs male boxer in under 20 seconds.

She'd lose to Floyd after the first punch.

[iamgine]

Floyd would be an easy opponent for her.

Ray Rice might be a little hard due to his weight.

[scandisk_]

Unless the weight difference is too great, Ronda Rousey will beat any male pure boxer.

Give them (boxers) time to train to sprawl and this would not be the case. Some boxers like Manny practiced different disciplines (in his case MT) and I'm sure he can hang with her in an MMA fight.

[iamgine]

Give them (boxers) time to train to sprawl and this would not be the case. Some boxers like Manny practiced different disciplines (in his case MT) and I'm sure he can hang with her in an MMA fight.
That's why I said pure boxer. Is that not clear?

[LJJ]

She's gonna continue to talk shit and never going to set foot in a ring with a male fighter. It's much better to her. White knights and delusional MMA jockers lapping it up.

Meanwhile here is a vid of one of the greatest female pro fighters of all time fighting an amateur male:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5klgf_rare-muy-thai-fight-man-vs-woman_sport

Hey, Lucia Rijker was a bigger beast than Rousey in her prime and at least she had the balls to do it I guess, but that pretty much sums up what would happen.

[scandisk_]

That's why I said pure boxer. Is that not clear?

What's stopping a pure boxer from showing some skills outside of his discipline? lelz In this age there's no such thing as pure boxer in a cage fight brah. You expect a boxer to only use his fist while being kicked, grappled and taken down? Ohh I get it it's a handicap match then, that's not even a fight :roll:

[scandisk_]

She's gonna continue to talk shit and never going to set foot in a ring with a male fighter. It's much better to her. White knights and delusional MMA jockers lapping it up.

Meanwhile here is a vid of one of the greatest female pro fighters of all time fighting an amateur male:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5klgf_rare-muy-thai-fight-man-vs-woman_sport

Hey, Lucia Rijker was a bigger beast than Rousey in her prime and at least she had the balls to do it I guess, but that pretty much sums up what would happen.

That's ****in painful to watch :mad: I mean I'm all for gender equality but that's just wrong man.

On the other hand Here's Germaine dR clocking a guy out :oldlol: :oldlol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOjJymLUzow

[iamgine]

What's stopping a pure boxer from showing some skills outside of his discipline? lelz In this age there's no such thing as pure boxer in a cage fight brah. You expect a boxer to only use his fist while being kicked, grappled and taken down? Ohh I get it it's a handicap match then, that's not even a fight :roll:
Pure boxer = none/very little ground/kicking skills. Floyd, Ali, etc are pure boxers.

[plowking]

Floyd would be an easy opponent for her.

Ray Rice might be a little hard due to his weight.

Indeed easy. She would be able to look at that fight on the schedule and chalk up a quick L.

First punch. Wouldn't take anything else.

[scandisk_]

Pure boxer = none/very little ground/kicking skills. Floyd, Ali, etc are pure boxers.

Again what's stopping Floyd from using his elbows, knees and shins? Floyd's chances of winning are as good as Rousey's. Floyd's mismatch is his discipline. On the other hand he's faster, quicker, more decisive and is patient in picking his spots. He can clock Rousey if she rushes in for a takedown. Then again if she's successful taking down Floyd then it's game-over :lol

[dunksby]

Indeed easy. She would be able to look at that fight on the schedule and chalk up a quick L.

First punch. Wouldn't take anything else.
You are sexist, men = women MMA> Boxing => Rousey easily takes care of Floyd.





































http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/18/article-2038693-0DF4183000000578-529_634x423.jpg

[iamgine]

^Rousey would win easily due to much superior ground/grappling skills. It's not hard to clinch/rush take down a boxer. She can do it every time.

[scandisk_]

^Rousey would win easily due to much superior ground/grappling skills. It's not hard to clinch/rush take down a boxer. She can do it every time.


ohh really? prove it :D

[plowking]

^Rousey would win easily due to much superior ground/grappling skills. It's not hard to clinch/rush take down a boxer. She can do it every time.

Grabbing a leg and begging for mercy doesn't count as grappling dude. It is technically a tap.

She'd either be knocked out or crying and begging not to get hit after one punch. You can't grapple someone if they knock you out. :oldlol:

[dunksby]

^Rousey would win easily due to much superior ground/grappling skills. It's not hard to clinch/rush take down a boxer. She can do it every time.
It's hard, because boxers are quick on their feet, what's stopping Mayweather from evading her? I think Mayweather is a good enough boxer to land one blow on her, which would rock her world if not a TKO. We are not talking about a 150 lbs CK underwear model, he is an undefeated world boxing champ.

[iamgine]

It's hard, because boxers are quick on their feet, what's stopping Mayweather from evading her? I think Mayweather is a good enough boxer to land one blow on her, which would rock her world if not a TKO. We are not talking about a 150 lbs CK underwear model, he is an undefeated world boxing champ.
it's really not hard. Floyd get clinched all the time. One punch isn't gonna down her at all if not landing at chin. Floyd ain't Mike Tyson.

[dunksby]

it's really not hard. Floyd get clinched all the time. One punch isn't gonna down her at all if not landing at chin. Floyd ain't Mike Tyson.
I don't know how much you know about the human anatomy, but testosterone production in men is twenty times the amount in women, so physiologically men benefit from more muscle and bone mass. In real life men and women are not equal no matter the stories feminists told you.

[dunksby]

Remember when much bigger stronger war machine knocked out Christy mack with one punch?

No?

He didn't knock her out? She's got a granite chin though right?

No? She's not a fighter of any kind?

Well surely a fluke every other female will be unconscious from one punch
They have weaker necks by default, science, bitch.

[dunksby]

Gonna assume rousey is smart enough to not be anywhere near Floyd with her chin up
Yep, but she wouldn't last long, Floyd punching her in the sides or guts would be enough adn considering that's without boxing gloves? Shit, no man would want to be on the other side of that.

[ThePhantomCreep]

it's really not hard. Floyd get clinched all the time. One punch isn't gonna down her at all if not landing at chin. Floyd ain't Mike Tyson.

-4oz gloves
-hitting a girl

He may as well be Mike Tyson.

[niko]

Floyd would destroy her. You people are silly.

[scandisk_]

it's really not hard. Floyd get clinched all the time. One punch isn't gonna down her at all if not landing at chin. Floyd ain't Mike Tyson.

What the hell :oldlol: yeah because clinching in boxing = grappling hold.

[ThePhantomCreep]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-R26sSqqVV8g/Uwb11XfL98I/AAAAAAAAAHM/26OSq9Yxu_I/s1600/tate+hook.gif

This should be posted every time someone argues she could take down a boxer. Ronda eats punches all the time. She can't even avoid Tate's flimsy left hook, but somehow she's going avoid Floyd's? Delusional.

Even she said she'd crawl on the floor to take down Floyd, which is basically an admission of defeat.

[scandisk_]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-R26sSqqVV8g/Uwb11XfL98I/AAAAAAAAAHM/26OSq9Yxu_I/s1600/tate+hook.gif

This should be posted every time someone argues she could take down a boxer. Ronda eats punches all the time. She can't even avoid Tate's flimsy left hook, but somehow she's going avoid Floyd's? Delusional.

Even she said she'd crawl on the floor to take down Floyd, which is basically an admission of defeat.

I'd love to see her take one solid punch from Cyborg though. :banana:

[~primetime~]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-R26sSqqVV8g/Uwb11XfL98I/AAAAAAAAAHM/26OSq9Yxu_I/s1600/tate+hook.gif


LOL

It's like watching two girls fight...

Oh wait, that's exactly what it is.

[Akrazotile]

LOL

It's like watching two girls fight...

Oh wait, that's exactly what it is.


Rousey has sexy legs tho

[Godzuki]

are u fukkin kidding me?

nowhere did she say Mayweather would beat her, she just basically said it would give some normalcy credit if a girl fought a guy. IF the guy beat a girls ass it would not help the female cause. it'd become more of a norm in viewpoint that its okay for a guy to hit a girl.

:rolleyes:

[~primetime~]

yeah, no male has ANYTHING to gain from stepping into the ring with Ronda

If the male wins then it is the brutal beating of a woman by a man on live TV

If Ronda wins then the male lost to a woman...shameful

[Budadiiii]

Floyd simply does not stand a chance.

Ronda's skull is tougher than people think. Floyd would come out with a flurry but eventually Ronda would grab onto his legs and completely outclass him with grappling.

She's a gold medalist for a reason. This isn't even a fair fight. Disrespectful to Ronda to compare an amatuer grappler to herself. You people need to stop.

[bagelred]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zay4c98IfqE

[iamgine]

I don't know how much you know about the human anatomy, but testosterone production in men is twenty times the amount in women, so physiologically men benefit from more muscle and bone mass. In real life men and women are not equal no matter the stories feminists told you.
They're not, but Ronda would still win because of the vast difference in skills. She'd quickly clinch Floyd and work from there. Floyd won't know what to do without a referee to separate the clinch.

[deja vu]

Rousy never wakes up after getting clocked by Floyd. Rousey's grappling skills would be useless against a strong athlete like Floyd. Dude is basically twice as strong as her.

[KNOW1EDGE]

People are honestly insane if they think Rousey stands even a slight chance in any sort of ring vs Mayweather or any other trained fighter of any sport.

Seriously, retarded, and you guys just need to go back to watching tv.

It's a fuhcking woman. VS a fuhcking man. GTFO. I don't even wanna hear anymore bull$1t retorts, this sh1t is beyond stupid.

[LJJ]

They're not, but Ronda would still win because of the vast difference in skills. She'd quickly clinch Floyd and work from there. Floyd won't know what to do without a referee to separate the clinch.

Mayweather: Completely dazed and pliable like a reed when he's getting grappled by a girl with not even half his power.

Rousey: Unfazed and in control while getting punched in the head at 5 times the power and 200 times the talent she ever faced before.

Get real.

[deja vu]

http://www.thundertreats.com/wp-content/gallery/ronda-rousey/ronda-rousey-maxim-4.jpg
:bowdown:

[iamgine]

Mayweather: Completely dazed and pliable like a reed when he's getting grappled by a girl with not even half his power.

Rousey: Unfazed and in control while getting punched in the head at 5 times the power and 200 times the talent she ever faced before.

Get real.
Not as extreme and hyperbolic as that but you have the right idea.

[Budadiiii]

It's easy to defend punches for 4 seconds but its impossible to stop a takedown from a world class judo fighter.

Ronda would eat Floyd for a light snack.

[Megabox!]

Oh this again

Ish is garbage


Like in all seriousness you are some of the stupidest fvks with Internet access
:applause: :applause:

[scandisk_]

It's easy to defend punches for 4 seconds but its impossible to stop a takedown from a world class judo fighter.


wtf :oldlol:

[ThePhantomCreep]

http://www.thundertreats.com/wp-content/gallery/ronda-rousey/ronda-rousey-maxim-4.jpg
:bowdown:

Still LOLing @ the idiots who think she can bench press 225lbs.

Ronda fanboys are the worst.

[Godzuki]

a half decent wrestler would completely wreck most of u 'boxers' unless you're mike tyson. floyd ain't close to tyson. he's a scorecard duck and move puncher who has NEVER had to fight without rules permitting anything but punching and weaving with scorecards :rolleyes:


dude probably isn't even bigger than Rousey. i bet she looks bigger than Floyd in a ring. Rouseys all cut up now these days and got rid of her baby fat while Floyd has been all fight dodging hype for a long fukkin time now. most overrated, media hyped boxer in shitty ass boxing history :applause:

[scandisk_]

a half decent wrestler would completely wreck most of u 'boxers' unless you're mike tyson. floyd ain't close to tyson. he's a scorecard duck and move puncher who has NEVER had to fight without rules permitting anything but punching and weaving with scorecards :rolleyes:


dude probably isn't even bigger than Rousey. i bet she looks bigger than Floyd in a ring. Rouseys all cut up now these days and got rid of her baby fat while Floyd has been all fight dodging hype for a long fukkin time now. most overrated, media hyped boxer in shitty ass boxing history :applause:

Ohhh there it is again, the "Unless your Mike Tyson" card. Well guess what, any half decent boxer can outbox and out maneuver most wrestlers/grapplers as well. If you think that it's easy to take a boxer down, what makes you think he'll have a hard time clocking your jaw. :roll: Stand-up is as important as grappling/ground game.

[ThePhantomCreep]

a half decent wrestler would completely wreck most of u 'boxers' unless you're mike tyson. floyd ain't close to tyson. he's a scorecard duck and move puncher who has NEVER had to fight without rules permitting anything but punching and weaving with scorecards :rolleyes:


dude probably isn't even bigger than Rousey. i bet she looks bigger than Floyd in a ring. Rouseys all cut up now these days and got rid of her baby fat while Floyd has been all fight dodging hype for a long fukkin time now. most overrated, media hyped boxer in shitty ass boxing history :applause:

Strong math skills, buddy.

Floyd fighting weight: 147-150lbs, virtually no bodyfat.

Ronda fighting weight: 135lbs, significantly less muscle mass, due to the whole estrogen thing.

Ronda avoiding punches vs this Z-level opponent.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mWaLCB7wBTE/UsJgY3HQ6XI/AAAAAAAAFMA/rVATtyzIJqc/s1600/UFC168-RondaRousey-XMeishaTate-SloMo-Rd1a-400-sg.gif

:lol

[Godzuki]

Ohhh there it is again, the "Unless your Mike Tyson" card. Well guess what, any half decent boxer can outbox and out maneuver most wrestlers/grapplers as well. If you think that it's easy to take a boxer down, what makes you think he'll have a hard time clocking your jaw. :roll: Stand-up is as important as grappling/ground game.


because in a REAL fight someone can grab the duck and move slap boxing fgt by the neck and just wreck him. because in a REAL fight someone can just slam him to the ground where he is completely dominated.

its funny how ignorant boxinng fans are to what real fighting entails :facepalm

[Godzuki]

Strong math skills, buddy.

Floyd fighting weight: 147-150lbs, virtually no bodyfat.

Ronda fighting weight: 135lbs, significantly less muscle mass, due to the whole estrogen thing.

Ronda avoiding punches vs this Z-level opponent.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mWaLCB7wBTE/UsJgY3HQ6XI/AAAAAAAAFMA/rVATtyzIJqc/s1600/UFC168-RondaRousey-XMeishaTate-SloMo-Rd1a-400-sg.gif

:lol

i neveer take official weights as legit. and lets be honest, floyd looks small as fukk to anyone who isn't some sorry floyd fan.

[ThePhantomCreep]

i neveer take official weights as legit. and lets be honest, floyd looks small as fukk to anyone who isn't some sorry floyd fan.Boxers are weighed before each fight. :facepalm

BTW Ronda looks borderline doughy next female Olympic sprinters and pole vaulters. You know, real world class women athletes?

[scandisk_]

because in a REAL fight someone can grab the duck and move slap boxing fgt by the neck and just wreck him. because in a REAL fight someone can just slam him to the ground where he is completely dominated.

its funny how ignorant boxinng fans are to what real fighting entails :facepalm

Yeah cause any boxer would want to grapper against an MMA fighter. And What's a real fight anyway? I train MT/BJJ/Boxing what makes you think I religiously follow boxing :oldlol: I swear some dudes in here only started following UFC/MMA lately, I bet most of them have no idea bout Pride-K1-Pancrase.

[Godzuki]

Yeah cause any boxer would want to grapper against an MMA fighter. And What's a real fight anyway? :lol I train MT/BJJ/Boxing what makes you think I religiously follow boxing :oldlol: I swear some dudes in here only started following UFC/MMA lately, I bet most of them have no idea bout Pride-K1-Pancrase.


rofl don't know how u can avoid grappling without running away but good luck :facepalm

and REAL fighting shouldnt have to be spelled out especially when it comes to only upper body punching boxing with refs and score card regularly deciding fights shouldn't even have to be explained but good luck on that too :rolleyes:

[Budadiiii]

Ronda would cover her face while floyd tries to land shots and just shoot for his legs.

There's nothing Floyd could do to win. He's a complete amateuer when compared to Rousey.

[Godzuki]

Boxers are weighed before each fight. :facepalm

BTW Ronda looks borderline doughy next female Olympic sprinters and pole vaulters. You know, real world class women athletes?


ronda used to look doughy but she is cut up now...floyd's a midget.

[Lebron23]

She's not even pretty. I watched Fast and the Furious 6. Ms. Gina Carano looked ordinary compared to the model and actresses in that movie.

[scandisk_]

rofl don't know how u can avoid grappling without running away but good luck :facepalm


Well you said it yourself, back down and don't let him grapple you to the ground. Again, what makes you think a boxer would just stand out there and box, slip, duck, run away. Floyd can sprawl too ya know.

[Budadiiii]

Well you said it yourself, back down and don't let him grapple you to the ground. Again, what makes you think a boxer would just stand out there and box, slip, duck, run away. Floyd can sprawl too ya know.
What makes you think Floyd could avoid a takedown from a judo gold medalist?

Floyd can sprawl and Ronda can stick protect her face from punches.

Floyd will sprawl his ass into a choke hold and lose immediately.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Ronda would cover her face while floyd tries to land shots and just shoot for his legs.

There's nothing Floyd could do to win. He's a complete amateuer when compared to Rousey.
How ia she supposed to shoot for the legs (which she never does btw) if she's covering her face for dear life? Will doctors attach an extra set of arms before the fight?

[ThePhantomCreep]

ronda used to look doughy but she is cut up now...floyd's a midget.

Yeah, cut up :lol

Floyd isn't big, but clearly bigger than Ronda. MMA fans take delusion to absurd levels.

[KNOW1EDGE]

This isn't about MMA vs Boxing. Or gold medalists against boxing champs.

It's about a fuhcking WOMAN stepping into the ring with a MAN.

GTFO with all this hyperbole about Rousey's grappling skill or gold medal. SHE'S A FUHCKING WOMAN. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUHCK IS GOING ON? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUHCK??

[ace23]

This isn't about MMA vs Boxing. Or gold medalists against boxing champs.

It's about a fuhcking WOMAN stepping into the ring with a MAN.

GTFO with all this hyperbole about Rousey's grappling skill or gold medal. SHE'S A FUHCKING WOMAN. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUHCK IS GOING ON? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUHCK??
She'll put you on your back in under a minute. Calm down.

[scandisk_]

What makes you think Floyd could avoid a takedown from a judo gold medalist?

Floyd can sprawl and Ronda can stick protect her face from punches.

Floyd will sprawl his ass into a choke hold and lose immediately.

Yeah cause taking down someone let alone a trained fighter is easy :oldlol: Spoken like a true MMA veteran right there bud. Go ahead and practice grappling with someone resisting your strength. :lol It's EASY mwahahahha

[JohnFreeman]

Ronda the type of girl to hold the door open for me

[KNOW1EDGE]

She'll put you on your back in under a minute. Calm down.

Yeah when we are naked and she's about to ride dis D.

She is a fuhcking woman. She is not beating up any male professional fighter of any kind.

She could probably beat me up. And i wouldn't mind cuz I'd feel her up.

[Budadiiii]

Yeah cause taking down someone let alone a trained fighter is easy :oldlol: Spoken like a true MMA veteran right there bud. Go ahead and practice grappling with someone resisting your strength. :lol It's EASY mwahahahha
Boxing isn't fighting.

It's like assuming a ping pong player could be a great tennis player. Floyd has one skill and it would be rendered useless. He's not a fighter.

[scandisk_]

Boxing isn't fighting.

It's like assuming a ping pong player could be a great tennis player. Floyd has one skill and it would be rendered useless. He's not a fighter.

Apples to oranges bud. You train to fight in a ring, cage, streets. YOU'RE A FIGHTER! Boxing isn't fighting my ass. If you only have any idea about how boxing started.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Men and women are simply on different levels physically. She's used to getting punched by women. Watch her take a punch from Mayweather and see if she's still standing. You guys are blatantly retarded and I honestly don't get it.

Would still fuhck

http://cdn3.everyjoe.com/wp-content/gallery/ronda-rousey/ronda-rousey-nude-photos-14.jpg

[DonDadda59]

its funny how ignorant boxinng fans are to what real fighting entails :facepalm



Boxing isn't fighting

Always cracks me up when the 2 sizes too small tap out shirt crowd thinks they're watching 'real fighting' when they watch MMA. If you dumbasses ever get into a real fight and you think you're gonna win by rolling around on concrete trying to get top position or apply a double dragon rear naked heimlich choke, you're gonna end up like These two professional (one undefeated) 'real fighters' (http://www.mmamania.com/2013/7/8/4504610/video-ufc-bellator-veteran-maiquel-falcao-knocked-out-by-2x4-in-wild)

:facepalm

[BlazerRed]

Oh this again

Ish is garbage


Like in all seriousness you are some of the stupidest fvks with Internet access
:roll: :applause:

[iamgine]

In real street fight, there's less skill/power involved and more "who can get the first nut shot/sucker punch" or "who can get the nearest rock/weapon first" factor.

[DonDadda59]

In real street fight, there's less skill/power involved and more "who can get the first nut shot/sucker punch" or "who can get the nearest rock/weapon first" factor.

Basically. The idea in a real fight is to neutralize whoever you're up against as quickly and efficiently as possible and then get the f*ck outta there before the guns, knives, etc come out.

Case in point- best cry ever dude handles business (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PZUMpV_lPI)

That rolling around on the pavement shit is gonna get your ass kicked in the real world as I pointed out with those MMA fighters who thought they could f*ck with some random dude's girl and ended up getting beaten into the dirt because they lacked the necessary Boxing skill to end the conflict when it initially began.

[scandisk_]

Basically. The idea in a real fight is to neutralize whoever you're up against as quickly and efficiently as possible and then get the f*ck outta there before the guns, knives, etc come out.

Case in point- best cry ever dude handles business (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PZUMpV_lPI)

That rolling around on the pavement shit is gonna get your ass kicked in the real world as I pointed out with those MMA fighters who thought they could f*ck with some random dude's girl and ended up getting beaten into the dirt because they lacked the necessary Boxing skill to end the conflict when it initially began.

MMA dude was drunk, he barely even felt the first punch thrown at him :oldlol:

[oarabbus]

ronda used to look doughy but she is cut up now...floyd's a midget.


let me guess this guy thinks he can take Mayweather in a fight :roll:


Seriously though, Rousey could probably win a fight against your average bro at the gym who outweighs her anywhere from 20- 70lbs.


But she would get wrecked by ANY professional male fighter.

[Akrazotile]

let me guess this guy thinks he can take Mayweather in a fight :roll:


Seriously though, Rousey could probably win a fight against your average bro at the gym who outweighs her anywhere from 20- 70lbs.


But she would get wrecked by ANY professional male fighter.


Sadly this may be true but it would only apply to the more weak and uncoordinated lot of guys. Dudes who suck at sports and just arent fluid athletes. Sure, there are guys out there like that.

An average guy who is coordinated and in good shape, has 20-70 pounds on Rousey, in addition to higher bone and muscle density due to being male, and more testosterone and a longer reach should not lose a fight to her. She makes it look easy takin women to the ground who are 135 poinds. Not gonna be so easy to take a man weighing 190 pounds to the floor unless hes just a fat, slow slob. But if he actually works out and weighs 190? He can just swing relentlessly because he doesnt have to worry about any counterpunches, since they wont do any damage.

Seriously man. Shes a 135 pound woman. She'd be like a fly to any dude with a decent build.

[scandisk_]

Seriously man. Shes a 135 pound woman. She'd be like a fly to any dude with a decent build.

An athletic dude with no fundamental skills in martial arts/cage fighting has no business to fight a well-trained fighter whatsoever be it a woman/trans/gay etc. We have issues with Rousey having an easy fight with Floyd f**cking Mayweather not with a regular well-built/coordinated/athletic dude. At least Floyd has a huge advantage in boxing skills. What does the other dude have? size? huge levels of testosterone? not enough brah, not enough.

[Akrazotile]

An athletic dude with no fundamental skills in martial arts/cage fighting has no business to fight a well-trained fighter whatsoever be it a woman/trans/gay etc. We have issues with Rousey having an easy fight with Floyd f**cking Mayweather not with a regular well-built/coordinated/athletic dude. At least Floyd has a huge advantage in boxing skills. What does the other dude have? size? huge levels of testosterone? not enough brah, not enough.



Put a world class heavyweight male fighter in the ring with a gorilla and watch how much size and testosterone matter.

"Skill" doesnt mean anything if you're too small to hurt the other person. Seriously. Im 210 pounds of beef. ch1nky eyes, curly hair n gold teef. Theres nothing she could do to me. Shed dive at my leg and try to lift it up and I'd be just standing there, then I would just start pounding the hell out of her dome. I dont know if understand but women can not take hits the way men can. Even women that fight.

Maybe its just me tho. I have a naturally strong build and I'm a really good athlete. True story, I joined the wrestling team in high school my sophomore year and was an instant beast at it, but I quit two weeks in because it was boring and the coach was furious. :lol

If youre talking bout a deucewallaces type unathletic bozo then yeah, Rousey would **** him up. But a strong and athletic 200 lb male? No chance. Stop.

[scandisk_]

Put a world class heavyweight male fighter in the ring with a gorilla and watch how much size and testosterone matter.

"Skill" doesnt mean anything if you're too small to hurt the other person. Seriously. Im 210 pounds of beef. ch1nky eyes, curly hair n gold teef. Theres nothing she could do to me. Shed dive at my leg and try to lift it up and I'd be just standing there, then I would just start pounding the hell out of her dome. I dont know if understand but women can not take hits the way men can. Even women that fight.

Maybe its just me tho. I have a naturally strong build and I'm a really good athlete. True story, I joined the wrestling team in high school my sophomore year and was an instant beast at it, but I quit two weeks in because it was boring and the coach was furious. :lol

If youre talking bout a deucewallaces type unathletic bozo then yeah, Rousey would **** him up. But a strong and athletic 200 lb male? No chance. Stop.

http://m.memegen.com/saflpe.jpg

[iamgine]

Put a world class heavyweight male fighter in the ring with a gorilla and watch how much size and testosterone matter.

"Skill" doesnt mean anything if you're too small to hurt the other person. Seriously. Im 210 pounds of beef. ch1nky eyes, curly hair n gold teef. Theres nothing she could do to me. Shed dive at my leg and try to lift it up and I'd be just standing there, then I would just start pounding the hell out of her dome. I dont know if understand but women can not take hits the way men can. Even women that fight.

Maybe its just me tho. I have a naturally strong build and I'm a really good athlete. True story, I joined the wrestling team in high school my sophomore year and was an instant beast at it, but I quit two weeks in because it was boring and the coach was furious. :lol

If youre talking bout a deucewallaces type unathletic bozo then yeah, Rousey would **** him up. But a strong and athletic 200 lb male? No chance. Stop.
She do an armbar and you're done.

[scandisk_]

She do an armbar and you're done.

Sadly we don't live in reality anymore, so Rousey wouldn't have any luck on that armbar. That man's size and strength advantage would pawn Ronda's ass back to the kitchen. :lol

[ButterFace]

http://s29.postimg.org/vrh03fn9z/Ronda_Rousey.jpg

:lol

[Lebron23]

:lol


She's a Butter Face.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

She do an armbar and you're done.

Right.

Joint manipulations and certain techniques like that are the only thing a guy must be cautious of.

[~primetime~]

I guess if every female just learned to "armbar" then rape would no longer exist...male strength just isn't enough to overcome the all mighty armbar

[KNOW1EDGE]

I guess if every female just learned to "armbar" then rape would no longer exist...male strength just isn't enough to overcome the all mighty armbar

:lol

Pretty hard to put somebody in an armbar when you are being repeatedly punched in the face by someone twice as strong and twice as fast as you.

[tpols]

I guess if every female just learned to "armbar" then rape would no longer exist...male strength just isn't enough to overcome the all mighty armbar

All the arm bars I've seen are when you're on your back and the person on top tries throwing a punch downward.. so you wouldn't want to tackle rousey.. cuz she could catch your arm and if females Have one things over males it's flexibility with their legs and hips to wrap something up.

If floyd just threw shots at a distance and used his huge reach to sprawl she could do nothing tho

[oarabbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82FmcJOb1vA

7'2" man over there is a trained kickboxer, his opponent is 6' flat and outweight by 100lbs

BUT SIZE RULES ALL DOE :rolleyes:

[scandisk_]

I guess if every female just learned to "armbar" then rape would no longer exist...male strength just isn't enough to overcome the all mighty armbar

Yeah and if every female is a well trained fighter Rousey, a good percentage of male population would end up in coma and broken necks.

[Akrazotile]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82FmcJOb1vA

7'2" man over there is a trained kickboxer, his opponent is 6' flat and outweight by 100lbs

BUT SIZE RULES ALL DOE :rolleyes:


Yeah, when youre comparing two men, a smaller guy may have some quickness and coordination advantages.

If youre comparing a woman to a decent male athlete, she has no quickness and coordination advantages. This has been demonstrated in pretty much every sport but fighting (since its taboo). Professional women get destroyed by even amateur, rec-level men in sports involving physical competition. It would be the same in fighting.

Also, you think a guy couldnt put an armbar on Rousey? Only lifelong trained professional fighters know how to do an armbar???


I'm not saying Rousey wouldnt beat some smaller and unathletic dudes up. But shes not beating a guy with a solid size advantage and decent athletic coordination, even if he's inexperienced in physical combat.

[joe]

Yeah, when youre comparing two men, a smaller guy may have some quickness and coordination advantages.

If youre comparing a woman to a decent male athlete, she has no quickness and coordination advantages. This has been demonstrated in pretty much every sport but fighting (since its taboo). Professional women get destroyed by even amateur, rec-level men in sports involving physical competition. It would be the same in fighting.

Also, you think a guy couldnt put an armbar on Rousey? Only lifelong trained professional fighters know how to do an armbar???


I'm not saying Rousey wouldnt beat some smaller and unathletic dudes up. But shes not beating a guy with a solid size advantage and decent athletic coordination, even if he's inexperienced in physical combat.

I was reading about this on the MMA forums after the last thread, and a few of the guys were saying they have been training for 20 years and would still lose to Rousey. I think this is a debate without an answer, unless we actually seen the fight go down. But I lean towards thinking that fighting has a lot to do with technique and strategy over raw strength. There was also the story of Rousey beating up like 3 guys at a movie theater.

[Akrazotile]

I was reading about this on the MMA forums after the last thread, and a few of the guys were saying they have been training for 20 years and would still lose to Rousey. I think this is a debate without an answer, unless we actually seen the fight go down. But I lean towards thinking that fighting has a lot to do with technique and strategy over raw strength. There was also the story of Rousey beating up like 3 guys at a movie theater.


This needs to be settled.

I am going to challenge Ronda to a fight, which wont be aired on television so as not to show a man hitting a woman to a large audience, but the world can have a big debate about it leading up to the event, and everyone can place their bets, and after the fight they can announce to the world who won, and they can even show footage of any of the blows she lands on me and not the ones I land on her.


Ronda Rousley, I'm comin 4 u!!!!

[SugarHill]

Yeah, when youre comparing two men, a smaller guy may have some quickness and coordination advantages.

If youre comparing a woman to a decent male athlete, she has no quickness and coordination advantages. This has been demonstrated in pretty much every sport but fighting (since its taboo). Professional women get destroyed by even amateur, rec-level men in sports involving physical competition. It would be the same in fighting.

Also, you think a guy couldnt put an armbar on Rousey? Only lifelong trained professional fighters know how to do an armbar???


I'm not saying Rousey wouldnt beat some smaller and unathletic dudes up. But shes not beating a guy with a solid size advantage and decent athletic coordination, even if he's inexperienced in physical combat.

You really think you can beat her up? :coleman:

[joe]

This needs to be settled.

I am going to challenge Ronda to a fight, which wont be aired on television so as not to show a man hitting a woman to a large audience, but the world can have a big debate about it leading up to the event, and everyone can place their bets, and after the fight they can announce to the world who won, and they can even show footage of any of the blows she lands on me and not the ones I land on her.


Ronda Rousley, I'm comin 4 u!!!!

lol, I would love to watch it. Either way it would be entertaining. It is like that age old question.. could my varsity boys basketball team beat the worst WNBA team? It is interesting how people end up so firmly on either side of the debate when it is really something that is hard to know.

[ThePhantomCreep]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82FmcJOb1vA

7'2" man over there is a trained kickboxer, his opponent is 6' flat and outweight by 100lbs

BUT SIZE RULES ALL DOE :rolleyes:

...and a man.

I'm stunned so many don't realize how critically important this is.

Here's an example of size mattering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MtjfKlRHYE

Fighter A is considered one of the best K-1 fighters of all-time, a legend in his sport.

Fighter B is Bob Friggin Sapp. A bum's bum.

[Akrazotile]

You really think you can beat her up? :coleman:


I'd make her my bitch

[Doctor K]

Lol I've gone back and forth with this debate and thought about it and have come to conclude....

Ronda would beat Mayweather. In face, she would beat ameatur MMA male fighters her size too. What do I have to support these claims? HS Wrestling. I've seen girls compete at a STATE level against guys in this sport. In fact, some make it to the college level too. Wrestling is a sport that is as physical and strength based as anything. In fact, one would argue MMA/Boxing requires more skill over strength than does wrestling. But despite all that "testerone", guys have been pinned by girls and defeated even at a state highly competitive level. Sorry guys its just the truth.

Now if the top female wrestlers can compete with and sometimes defeat the top male wrestlers, and if the top female wrestlers (one competing at state level) can easily but the average male wrestlers....then why wouldn't Ronda (who SURELY is a TOP female MMA figther) be able to beat the amateur male MMA fithers? Again, wrestling requires more strength, testerone, etc while MMA requires more skill.

From the idea that Rona would beat the ameatur to average MMA male figthers here size, you can conclude what you want about Ronda beating Mayweather.

[ThePhantomCreep]

I was reading about this on the MMA forums after the last thread, and a few of the guys were saying they have been training for 20 years and would still lose to Rousey. I think this is a debate without an answer, unless we actually seen the fight go down. But I lean towards thinking that fighting has a lot to do with technique and strategy over raw strength. There was also the story of Rousey beating up like 3 guys at a movie theater.

I've heard this rumor as well. When it comes to tall tales, Wilt ain't got shit on Ronda. :D

Btw, here's MMA fighter Cody Gibson getting owned by a (much larger) nobody at a bar in Las Vegas. You can see how his disadvantage hinders him in his attempt at a takedown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9glGHCe7Cd4

But yeah, Ronda could just take down any old athletic 200 pounder like it's nothing, no problem. Nevermind her disadvantages that are significantly more severe than Cody's.

[dunksby]

Lol I've gone back and forth with this debate and thought about it and have come to conclude....

Ronda would beat Mayweather. In face, she would beat ameatur MMA male fighters her size too. What do I have to support these claims? HS Wrestling. I've seen girls compete at a STATE level against guys in this sport. In fact, some make it to the college level too. Wrestling is a sport that is as physical and strength based as anything. In fact, one would argue MMA/Boxing requires more skill over strength than does wrestling. But despite all that "testerone", guys have been pinned by girls and defeated even at a state highly competitive level. Sorry guys its just the truth.

Now if the top female wrestlers can compete with and sometimes defeat the top male wrestlers, and if the top female wrestlers (one competing at state level) can easily but the average male wrestlers....then why wouldn't Ronda (who SURELY is a TOP female MMA figther) be able to beat the amateur male MMA fithers? Again, wrestling requires more strength, testerone, etc while MMA requires more skill.

From the idea that Rona would beat the ameatur to average MMA male figthers here size, you can conclude what you want about Ronda beating Mayweather.
You are telling me this woman:

http://duncanheath.smugmug.com/Wrestling/2005-World-Championships/72kg-Iris-Smith/i-89NSwWP/0/XL/72kg%20Iris%20Smith-1373-XL.jpg

can beat this guy:

http://content.themat.com/images/12BurroughsFlagPost.jpg

[Doctor K]

You are telling me this woman:



I'm saying at a HS and college level. And no the level of competition in the UFC is nothing compared to the level of competition in the Olympics. Besides, I'm not saying Ronda can beat the Top MMA fighter like you are implying here. So just terrible analogy.

I'm saying if the Top Female HS State Wrestler can compete with the Top HS Male State Wrestlers, then surely the top MMA Female Fighter can beat the amateur (not even average lol) MMA Male Figther. Honestly, there goes all the testerone and strength and "male/female" arguments out the door. We have girls competing in WRESTLING against guys at a state level. Please don't tell me MMA involves more strength/testerone than wrestling :facepalm

[dunksby]

I'm saying at a HS and college level. And no the level of competition in the UFC is nothing compared to the level of competition in the Olympics. Besides, I'm not saying Ronda can beat the Top MMA fighter like you are implying here. So just terrible analogy.

I'm saying if the Top Female HS State Wrestler can compete with the Top HS Male State Wrestlers, then surely the top MMA Female Fighter can beat the amateur (not even average lol) MMA Male Figther. Honestly, there goes all the testerone and strength and "male/female" arguments out the door. We have girls competing in WRESTLING against guys at a state level. Please don't tell me MMA involves more strength/testerone than wrestling :facepalm
I don't disagree with that, but she doesn't have a chance against Mayweather.
ETA: there is a reason men and women compete separately, because everybody knows what's up besides feminists and white knights.

[Doctor K]

I don't disagree with that, but she doesn't have a chance against Mayweather.
ETA: there is a reason men and women compete separately, because everybody knows what's up besides feminists and white knights.
yeah i mean the boxing vs. mma is a different debate. And there is no doubt that male > female in athetlics and its just not "fair" to have them compete with each other genetically. But the difference isn't as great as many make it out to be and saying like there is NO CHANCE NO MATTER WHAT the trained male would lose to the trained female because of all that TESTORONE AND MALE STRENGTH lol. Don't need to look any further than HS wrestling.

[Akrazotile]

I'm saying at a HS and college level. And no the level of competition in the UFC is nothing compared to the level of competition in the Olympics. Besides, I'm not saying Ronda can beat the Top MMA fighter like you are implying here. So just terrible analogy.

I'm saying if the Top Female HS State Wrestler can compete with the Top HS Male State Wrestlers, then surely the top MMA Female Fighter can beat the amateur (not even average lol) MMA Male Figther. Honestly, there goes all the testerone and strength and "male/female" arguments out the door. We have girls competing in WRESTLING against guys at a state level. Please don't tell me MMA involves more strength/testerone than wrestling :facepalm


She might could beat an amateur male fighter who is 5'7 135 like she is.

Do you think she'd legitimately stand a chance against a 6'0 200 lb amateur fighter?

Remember, wrestling is not as much about combat. You dont have to withstand blows to the head, it's much more about leverage and angles since opponents are at the same weight and therefore similar in strength. Fighting is completely different. Men have thicker skulls and can take harder hits. Its just a fact.

[Doctor K]

She might could beat an amateur male fighter who is 5'7 135 like she is.


Ok thats a start and more than many were willing to admit here. :oldlol: People were saying a Junior High martial artist/judo guy could beat Ronda just cuz he's a guy and they both do the same sport. (Though some of the same people, mainly the MMA fanatics, would still say Rondoa could beat Mayweather but not the Junior High Judo King)



Do you think she'd legitimately stand a chance against a 6'0 200 lb amateur fighter?

Remember, wrestling is not as much about combat. You dont have to withstand blows to the head, it's much more about leverage and angles since opponents are at the same weight and therefore similar in strength. Fighting is completely different. Men have thicker skulls and can take harder hits. Its just a fact.

While all that is true, you also have to take into account Wrestling is more about brute strength (advantage male) and MMA has much more skill and technique involved with all the different fighting styles you can do. So making it less strength based and more skill based, takes away some of the natural male advantages.



Look there are tons of different debates here, Female vs. Male, MMA vs. Boxing, Heavier vs. Lighter weight, etc. I was just trying to attack the Male vs. Female angle of all this. So I don't know about the 200lb vs. 135 fight. But Obvioiusly males are in genetic advantage and that is why they don't compete with each other, its just not fair. But the advantage is not as great as Black & White is all I was sayin.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Ugh the worst characteristics of Doctors revealed themselves on Doctor K.

Both long lies, spouting off silly credentials, and sporadically using big words in a boring tone.

Ugh.

[Doctor K]

Ugh the worst characteristics of Doctors revealed themselves on Doctor K.

Both long lies, spouting off silly credentials, and sporadically using big words in a boring tone.

Ugh.

the only claim i've made is girls have competed in state wrestling tournaments against boys. If you think thats a lie, you got some reading up to do. Everything else i've said has been deduced from that fact.

[Akrazotile]

Ok thats a start and more than many were willing to admit here. :oldlol: People were saying a Junior High martial artist/judo guy could beat Ronda just cuz he's a guy and they both do the same sport. (Though some of the same people, mainly the MMA fanatics, would still say Rondoa could beat Mayweather but not the Junior High Judo King)



While all that is true, you also have to take into account Wrestling is more about brute strength (advantage male) and MMA has much more skill and technique involved with all the different fighting styles you can do. So making it less strength based and more skill based, takes away some of the natural male advantages.



Look there are tons of different debates here, Female vs. Male, MMA vs. Boxing, Heavier vs. Lighter weight, etc. I was just trying to attack the Male vs. Female angle of all this. So I don't know about the 200lb vs. 135 fight. But Obvioiusly males are in genetic advantage and that is why they don't compete with each other, its just not fair. But the advantage is not as great as Black & White is all I was sayin.


Fair enough. My argument has been simply that she would not stand a chance against a larger male opponent with reasonable fighting ability for an amateur. Could she beat a male her size, perhaps. (altho i tend to doubt shed beat many males her size who actually train for mma on any level). Could she beat a much larger woman? Yeah probably.

A man with multiple inches of reach, stronger chin, heavier punches, 50+ pounds of weight and at LEAST equal coordination if not superior is very unlikely to lose to her IMO. The totality of her disadvantages would be too much, regardless of whatever skills she has practiced.

[Doctor K]

Fair enough. My argument has been simply that she would not stand a chance against a larger male opponent with reasonable fighting ability for an amateur. Could she beat a male her size, perhaps. (altho i tend to doubt shed beat many males her size who actually train for mma on any level). Could she beat a much larger woman? Yeah probably.

A man with multiple inches of reach, stronger chin, heavier punches, 50+ pounds of weight and at LEAST equal coordination if not superior is very unlikely to lose to her IMO. The totality of her disadvantages would be too much, regardless of whatever skill she has practiced.

And as far as size difference arguments go, i do believe skill > size. She'd beat a bigger male who isn't trained. But I dont know how much skill advantages go down when the other person has some understanding and prep, and is also much bigger. My guess is she'd lose to a bigger person. Even bigger female.

I have seen though small 180 pound male fighters defeat 300+ pound beasts. But those were very skilled male fighters, a skill level Ronda would never touch. But teh thing to note is, they won purely based on skill and didn't have to use much of their strength. Skill over Strength anyday.

[Akrazotile]

And as far as size difference arguments go, i do believe skill > size. She'd beat a bigger male who isn't trained. But I dont know how much skill advantages go down when the other person has some understanding and prep, and is also much bigger. My guess is she'd lose to a bigger person. Even bigger female.

I have seen though small 180 pound male fighters defeat 300+ pound beasts. But those were very skilled male fighters, a skill level Ronda would never touch. But teh thing to note is, they won purely based on skill and didn't have to use much of their strength.


Depends on the male. Again, if he's skinny-fat and has no coordination or athleticism then sure.

Do you think she would beat down someone like dwayne wade or russell westbrook?

[Doctor K]

Depends on the male. Again, if he's skinny-fat and has no coordination or athleticism then sure.

Do you think she would beat down someone like dwayne wade or russell westbrook?

I think it depends maybe more on how skilled Ronda is.


Here's a fight everyone needs to see (its Male vs. Male) but a classic Skill vs. Strength matchup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFp1R5klo4

[~primetime~]

i do believe skill > size.
I don't

size a HUGE deal...that's why there are weight classes

sex is ALSO a HUGE deal...that's why the two sexes fight separately

the skill discrepancy has to be enormous to overcome those two things...



there are 85 lb women out there and no matter how many black belts they have, I'm whoopin them in a fight, because I'm 2x their size...they better have some pepper spray on them.

[Akrazotile]

I don't

size a HUGE deal...that's why there are weight classes

sex is ALSO a HUGE deal...that's why the two sexes fight separately

the skill discrepancy has to be enormous to overcome those two things...



there are 85 lb women out there and no matter how many black belts they have, I'm whoopin them in a fight, because I'm 2x their size...they better have some pepper spray on them.


Yup.

This shit aint billiards. It's physical combat. Skill seperates people who otherwise might be comparable. A large male and a small female arent comparable in combat. Skill and training simply does not change that.

[~primetime~]

I grew up taking karate classes...all the self defense tricks and tips they teach small children in regards to being approached by an adult are things like pulling back fingers, eye gauging, stomping toes, kick balls, etc...things to help you ESCAPE and RUN from the large adult, because a child can't win in a fight, that's not happening...the size difference is too much.

[Doctor K]

I don't

size a HUGE deal...that's why there are weight classes

sex is ALSO a HUGE deal...that's why the two sexes fight separately

the skill discrepancy has to be enormous to overcome those two things...



there are 85 lb women out there and no matter how many black belts they have, I'm whoopin them in a fight, because I'm 2x their size...they better have some pepper spray on them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFp1R5klo4

???

[~primetime~]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFp1R5klo4

???
I question the accuracy of those weights...the black belt LOOKS almost as big...he is much taller than the body builder

the difference in size is not like:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/108/2/1/human_body_proportions__male_and_female__by_ametys tical-d609pik.png

[LJJ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFp1R5klo4

???

What's the point. The body builder dude is actually shorter then the martial artist, and the power difference is probably negligible. Body builders don't train for functional power like the martial artist does, and the dude in the video clearly has 0 martial arts experience and can't even throw a punch.

The power difference between Mayweather and Rousey is much bigger, and Mayweather is going to connect on some very hard punches, seconds into the fight.

[Doctor K]

I question the accuracy of those weights...the black belt LOOKS almost as big...he is much taller than the body builder



I can only stick with 1 debate at a time. Like I said, there are 3 debates going on here


Male vs. Female
MMA vs. Boxing
Size vs. Skill

I already gave my arguments on Male vs. Female above (citing wrestling and how the top girls compete with guys at a STATE level). I even had a skeptic Akrazotile agreeing with me regarding that.

So if you want to move this debate to talk about size/strength, ok. I mean, clearly while the body builder may not be taller, he has FAR more strength and that muscle weighs at least 50 pounds more. I see it reasonable he may have been 100lb more, that is A LOT of muscle.

But here is another extreme
HIGHLY SKILLED vs. HEAVYWEIGHT example where Royce Gracie (one of the best fighters of all-time) defeats a 625lb man (Sumo Wrestler Champion).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5WfWmISKrk


Here we see highly skilled defeat highly outweighted. Like I said, its a bit extreme, I understand Royce is Royce. But you also have to understand, thats 450 pound difference.

[~primetime~]

The black belt in that video actually has a bigger "frame" than the body builder...those big bubble muscles aren't the type of "mass" that helps...in fact those bubble muscles might hinder his fighting if anything. It's not his natural build.

Congrats on finding a loophole though...

[~primetime~]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5WfWmISKrk


Here we see highly skilled defeat highly outweighted. Like I said, its a bit extreme, I understand Royce is Royce. But you also have to understand, thats 450 pound difference.
he's 600+ lbs dude...come on

the guy is one step away from a heart attack...obviously being a fat slob who can't move is a disadvantage...

[~primetime~]

that fat mfer actually had the best of Royce till that armbar though...:/

[Doctor K]

The black belt in that video actually has a bigger "frame" than the body builder...those big bubble muscles aren't the type of "mass" that helps...in fact those bubble muscles might hinder his fighting if anything. It's not his natural build.

Congrats on finding a loophole though...
Maybe so, but the that muscle still weighs a lot. And there is no debating which man is stronger. The strength isn't even comparable between that body builder and black belt. Their frames maybe, but not the overall strength and weight.

thank you. its not that uncommon, someone showed a video earlier on my other thread of Fedor taking out a beast that had much bigger everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IR8WYcszuo


Again, extremes. Fedor is extremely skilled. But this man was extremely bigger.

[Doctor K]

that fat mfer actually had the best of Royce till that armbar though...:/
thats all it takes tho in a fight. 1 mistake. come on you should know that if you see any fights in ur life.

[Doctor K]

he's 600+ lbs dude...come on

the guy is one step away from a heart attack...obviously being a fat slob who can't move is a disadvantage...
lol he is a Sumo Wrestler so i assume he has some coordination & exercise. either way, a man that size, what more can you ask? of course he isn't going to move around like a cat as well, he already has the unbelievable size advantage. but u see that isn't enough. skill > size/strength.

[ThePhantomCreep]

For every video of a smaller fighter taking out a bigger one, you can find a video where the opposite occurs. Look at Brock Lesnar. Dude was unskilled relative to his competitors, yet he was able to win a championship simply by being bigger and stronger than them.

There's a reason why fighters are separated by weight and gender. It matters.

[scandisk_]

For every video of a smaller fighter taking out a bigger one, you can find a video where the opposite occurs. Look at Brock Lesnar. Dude was unskilled relative to his competitors, yet he was able to win a championship simply by being bigger and stronger than them.

There's a reason why fighters are separated by weight and gender. It matters.

Unskilled compared to his peers wtf? His standup might suck to you ON TV but his wrestling and grappling skills are superb plus, he's an all-american champ. :oldlol: Now we're comparing karate classes to trained fighters? If you guys only have any idea how masterful these guys are and how hard they work.

Back to Floyd vs Rousey, I give them equal chances of beating both. If Rousey sweeps that leg and takes him down or a hip throw then it's over. But if Floyd catches her and rocks her, he'll go for the kill.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Yeah, Brock was a terrific college wrestler... in the 90s. Unfortunately, he spent most of his athletic prime fake wrestling for Vince McMahon.

You seriously think he's as skilled as Mir, Velasquez, JDS? He won matches because he's genetic freak, simple as that.

The fact that he was able to win a title after such a huge layoff from competitive wrestling (as an amateur no less) shows how thin the talent pool is in UFC. Even then, it looks like the Pacific Ocean next to the woman's division Ronda currently dominates. Floyd would annihilate her.

[iamgine]

Brock was not as skilled as his competitors but he's still very very skilled. Without it, being a genetic freak means nothing.

Floyd, however, would be toast once Ronda get a clinch, which is easy to get because all she had to worry about was upper body punch from Floyd.

[Akrazotile]

I can only stick with 1 debate at a time. Like I said, there are 3 debates going on here


Male vs. Female
MMA vs. Boxing
Size vs. Skill

I already gave my arguments on Male vs. Female above (citing wrestling and how the top girls compete with guys at a STATE level). I even had a skeptic Akrazotile agreeing with me regarding that.

So if you want to move this debate to talk about size/strength, ok. I mean, clearly while the body builder may not be taller, he has FAR more strength and that muscle weighs at least 50 pounds more. I see it reasonable he may have been 100lb more, that is A LOT of muscle.

But here is another extreme
HIGHLY SKILLED vs. HEAVYWEIGHT example where Royce Gracie (one of the best fighters of all-time) defeats a 625lb man (Sumo Wrestler Champion).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5WfWmISKrk


Here we see highly skilled defeat highly outweighted. Like I said, its a bit extreme, I understand Royce is Royce. But you also have to understand, thats 450 pound difference.


You are arguing each aspect in a vacuum.

The point however is that a large man would have a totality of advantages. Power, reach, quickness, coordination, chin.

Maybe the perspective here just depends on the individual. I know based on my own size, strength and grappling ability Rousey wouldnt stand a chance at her size. Guys who are less coordinated might tend to project their own chances onto all guys. But trust me a lot of dudes without mma experience would clean rousey's clock, even if many here could not.

[scandisk_]

Maybe the perspective here just depends on the individual. I know based on my own size, strength and grappling ability Rousey wouldnt stand a chance at her size.

Hey! It's past your bedtime :oldlol:

In all seriousness though, a flyweight can clock you out or pin you down easy. You might be huge as **** but you're not trained fight, you don't have the skill and the mojos to compete. Let's just leave it at that. I'm bigger than Ronda and you can say I'm stronger as well, I train MT and BJJ with boxing for 8 years and am sure as hell don't want any piece of her.

[Akrazotile]

Hey! It's past your bedtime :oldlol:

In all seriousness though, a flyweight can clock you out or pin you down easy. You might be huge as **** but you're not trained fight, you don't have the skill and the mojos to compete. Let's just leave it at that. I'm bigger than Ronda and you can say I'm stronger as well, I train MT and BJJ with boxing for 8 years and am sure as hell don't want any piece of her.


You train martial arts and youre bigger and stronger than this woman, and youre scared to fight her?


:ohwell:

[scandisk_]

You train martial arts and youre bigger and stronger than this woman, and youre scared to fight her?


:ohwell:

Maybe because I'm not even close to her as a fighter. I've seen pro fighters up close weather it's sparring or training. They're trained to hurt, have the ability to take punishment; they're smart and dedicated to their craft that alone would leave you at awe. You think you can hit hard, dwarf or overpower someone? That's no use in the ring unless you're well trained to fight (for years). Their experience alone would crush you like a pulp.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

scandisk obviously not all there from the brain damage hes taken.

[Akrazotile]

Maybe because I'm not even close to her as a fighter. I've seen pro fighters up close weather it's sparring or training. They're trained to hurt, have the ability to take punishment; they're smart and dedicated to their craft that alone would leave you at awe. You think you can hit hard, dwarf or overpower someone? That's no use in the ring unless you're well trained to fight (for years). Their experience alone would crush you like a pulp.


:oldlol: Listen broh. I dont know if maybe you never seen pictures of me flexing in front of my parents bedroom mirror? But it's impressive. I'll just tell you that right now.

It's damn impressive.

And aint nobody without a pair of nuts ever gonna get the best of me in a fighting match, ya understand what Im sayin?

[Derka]

Dana White sat in with Toucher & Rich in Boston last week and said the same thing.

Its not that there's not dudes out there she couldn't whip the snot out of, its just a really really really BAD look to have a dude potentially beating the hell out of a woman on pay-per-view, television and YouTube.

[dunksby]

Dana White sat in with Toucher & Rich in Boston last week and said the same thing.

Its not that there's not dudes out there she couldn't whip the snot out of, its just a really really really BAD look to have a dude potentially beating the hell out of a woman on pay-per-view, television and YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAgWwhxjDRE :lol

[AceManIII]

I seriously doubt Ronda Rousey can beat Laila Ali, nvm Floyd...:oldlol:

[sundizz]

They had that MTV show a few years back where some MMA guy fought the neighborhood bully. From seeing that, I know for sure that there are definitely some guys that could just dominate her based on pure overpowering physical superiority mixed with just enough fighting game. There are also many guys that would get a whooping cuz they simply have zero true fighting ability and/or would get gassed after 20 seconds.