Miami Big 3 vs Cleveland Big 3

[VengefulAngel]

A very interesting article comparing Lebron's first seasons with Wade and Bosh with his first season with Kyrie and Love.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2397598-lebron-james-returns-to-miami-a-new-man-with-a-new-contender

http://stats.nba.com/league/lineups/#!/advanced/?CF=MIN*GE*300&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1

[AnaheimLakers24]

Both extremely stacked in a pathetic conference. Its embarrassing and downrigt insulting to the lebrick framily that hes a measly 2/5



again, 2/5

Bron must hate his life

[VengefulAngel]

Both extremely stacked in a pathetic conference. Its embarrassing and downrigt insulting to the lebrick framily that hes a measly 2/5



again, 2/5

Bron must hate his life

To be fair with teams that could win the championship he's 2/3, Miami in 2014 and Cleveland and 2007 were very lucky to play in the NBA finals in those respective years. Although I agree he was pathetic in the 2011 finals.

Plus there is a good chance that he wins the championship this year.

[Prime_Shaq]

To be fair with teams that could win the championship he's 2/3, Miami in 2014 and Cleveland and 2007 were very lucky to play in the NBA finals in those respective years. Although I agree he was pathetic in the 2011 finals.

Plus there is a good chance that he wins the championship this year.
IMO its 2/4. I mean what was the main difference between the 2014 roster and the 2013 one? No Mike Miller?

[AnaheimLakers24]

To be fair with teams that could win the championship he's 2/3, Miami in 2014 and Cleveland and 2007 were very lucky to play in the NBA finals in those respective years. Although I agree he was pathetic in the 2011 finals.

Plus there is a good chance that he wins the championship this year.
Nba isnt always fair. Hes 2/5

[Cocaine80s]

IMO its 2/4. I mean what was the main difference between the 2014 roster and the 2013 one? No Mike Miller?
the fvck?
Do you know what aging & injuries are?

[dubeta]

IMO its 2/4. I mean what was the main difference between the 2014 roster and the 2013 one? No Mike Miller?

Not much difference, which is why the 2013 Heat team was also bad. It's a miracle he won in 2013 with Bosh putting up 12 pts 6 rbs and Wade putting up 15 pts on 44% in the entire playoffs


In LeBrons 12 year career, he's had a good team only 2 years (2011, 2012) far less than the 10+ years Magic, Bird, Kobe, Duncan has had with some loaded teams

[Prime_Shaq]

the fvck?
Do you know what aging & injuries are?
A 29 year old LeBron and Bosh? 32 year old Wade? Did they age SO MUCH in one year? Face it, Spurs just outclassed them.

[SexSymbol]

the fvck?
Do you know what aging & injuries are?
As if the spurs didn't age and didn't have injuries. Biased much?

[AnaheimLakers24]

As if the spurs didn't age and didn't have injuries. Biased much?
Rat poison

[Cocaine80s]

A 29 year old LeBron and Bosh? 32 year old Wade? Did they age SO MUCH in one year? Face it, Spurs just outclassed them.
2013 Wade Finals: 20/4/5 48%FG
2014 Wade Finals: 15/4/3 44%FG

When the team's 2nd best player puts up 15/4/3 in the finals you know its bad



As if the spurs didn't age and didn't have injuries. Biased much?
Heat were an older team

[SexSymbol]

2013 Wade Finals: 20/4/5 48%FG
2014 Wade Finals: 15/4/3 44%FG

When the team's 2nd best player puts up 15/4/3 in the finals you know its bad



Heat were an older team
No, even if the average of age was higher to the Heat, the core of spurs are much older.

[Prime_Shaq]

2013 Wade Finals: 20/4/5 48%FG
2014 Wade Finals: 15/4/3 44%FG

When the team's 2nd best player puts up 15/4/3 in the finals you know its bad



Heat were an older team
That's hardly my point. My point was both the 2013 and 2014 Heat teams were title contender teams. Wade didn't play up to par, definitely. That being said, LeBron is 2/4 in Finals he had chances of winning.

[Quickening]

That's hardly my point. My point was both the 2013 and 2014 Heat teams were title contender teams. Wade didn't play up to par, definitely. That being said, LeBron is 2/4 in Finals he had chances of winning.

Miami had a chance of beating spurs? Looked like they got blown out most games to me, even though Lebron put up incredible stats... but yes, that finals should go against Lebron :facepalm

[Prime_Shaq]

Miami had a chance of beating spurs? Looked like they got blown out most games to me, even though Lebron put up incredible stats... but yes, that finals should go against Lebron :facepalm
Going in to that series you're telling me you already lost hope on the Heat? The Heat lost, not just LeBron.

[Quickening]

Going in to that series you're telling me you already lost hope on the Heat? The Heat lost, not just LeBron.

I thought based on Wade and Boshes form throughout the playoffs that Spurs should be strong favourites...

[Prime_Shaq]

I thought based on Wade and Boshes form throughout the playoffs that Spurs should be strong favourites...
Sure but it wasn't like they were outmatched like the Cavs were in 2007. Thunder were outclassed in 2012 too but Durant,Westbrook and Harden are still considered 0/1. So I don't see why LeBron wouldn't be considered 2/4.

[Dresta]

How does Bron not get blame for the 2014 finals?

If he didn't cramp up in game 1 they would've had a 2-0 lead, and then it's a very different series. The only guy on the whole court who couldn't handle the heat, despite him being younger than a half dozen guys who did keep playing.

[Quickening]

How does Bron not get blame for the 2014 finals?

If he didn't cramp up in game 1 they would've had a 2-0 lead, and then it's a very different series. The only guy on the whole court who couldn't handle the heat, despite him being younger than a half dozen guys who did keep playing.

Because he averaged 28, 8 and 4 on 57% fg, and 52% from 3. The second best option being Wade at 15, 4 and 3 on 43% fg and 33% from 3.:facepalm

But yes, lets blame Lebron:applause:

[Lebron23]

Because he averaged 28, 8 and 4 on 57% fg, and 52% from 3. The second best option being Wade at 15, 4 and 3 on 43% fg and 33% from 3.:facepalm

But yes, lets blame Lebron:applause:


Cause Dresta is an idiot.

[Dresta]

Because he averaged 28, 8 and 4 on 57% fg, and 52% from 3. The second best option being Wade at 15, 4 and 3 on 43% fg and 33% from 3.:facepalm

But yes, lets blame Lebron:applause:
At least Wade finished what turned out to be the most important game of the series :lol

Injured, old and somewhat out-of-shape Wade managed to outlast a 29-year old otherworldly athletic specimen. What does that say about Bron's mettle? He has none. His life has been a series of people handing him things, which is why he's such a mental pu$$y.

[Quickening]

At least Wade finished what turned out to be the most important game of the series :lol

Injured, old and somewhat out-of-shape Wade managed to outlast a 29-year old otherworldly athletic specimen. What does that say about Bron's mettle? He has none. His life has been a series of people handing him things, which is why he's such a mental pu$$y.

Yes Wade played 9 seconds more in game 1, thats makes up for the massive differential in stats, retards gonna retard :lol :roll:

[Paul George 24]

Because he averaged 28, 8 and 4 on 57% fg, and 52% from 3. The second best option being Wade at 15, 4 and 3 on 43% fg and 33% from 3.:facepalm

But yes, lets blame Lebron:applause:

EXCUSE :lol

[dubeta]

Cause Dresta is an idiot.

This.

Dude doesn't even hide it no more, an embarrassment to Heat fans

[r15mohd]

This.

Dude doesn't even hide it no more, an embarrassment to Heat fans

i don';t even consider him a Heat fan, he rejects everything Lebron did for the Heat the few years he was down here. he is just overly salty from his departure.

Wade and Bosh didn't hold their own during most of the 4 yr run...simple as that. the team only went as far as Lebron took them, it may not have been intended to be that way when constructed by Riley, but Wade/Bosh sure did find their comfort in knowing Lebron was their to lead the way back to the Finals during the 4yr run.

with CLE, you have a lot younger and healthier players. Love is a worse form of Bosh so far, it's really the Kyrie and Lebron show. the Cavs have a better supporting cast post-trade, Miami had good players too, but the Cavs have most bases covered. Miami couldn't get inside presence in the 4yrs Lebron was their, a key necessity to them continuing their run (Oden, Dampier, etc. are all failed attempts by Riley)

[Dresta]

i don';t even consider him a Heat fan, he rejects everything Lebron did for the Heat the few years he was down here. he is just overly salty from his departure.

Wade and Bosh didn't hold their own during most of the 4 yr run...simple as that. the team only went as far as Lebron took them, it may not have been intended to be that way when constructed by Riley, but Wade/Bosh sure did find their comfort in knowing Lebron was their to lead the way back to the Finals during the 4yr run.

with CLE, you have a lot younger and healthier players. Love is a worse form of Bosh so far, it's really the Kyrie and Lebron show. the Cavs have a better supporting cast post-trade, Miami had good players too, but the Cavs have most bases covered. Miami couldn't get inside presence in the 4yrs Lebron was their, a key necessity to them continuing their run (Oden, Dampier, etc. are all failed attempts by Riley)
And pretty much none of the actual Heat fans on here consider you to be anything other than a poorly-disguised Bron stan. Honestly, it's pathetic the extent towards you belittle everyone else in Miami to prop up your Gawd. Stop being such a piece of slime, be true to yourself, stop the facade, and adopt a Henry Abbott avatar already. Enough of your bullshit.

I don't reject anything Lebron did in Miami, nor am i salty about him leaving (glad, actually, the team needed a new look, the previous 'only the playoffs matters' made the most recent season a real bore). What i do reject is the constant and concerted attempt of the Bron-stan brigade (of which you are a part) to denigrate what everyone else did on that team, and to ignore that Bron's stats were inflated respective to others on the team because the offense was built to suit him and his strengths, to offset the possibility of another 2011 finals sulking performance, where (when it looked like he wasn't going to win finals mvp), he literally stopped bothering to play basketball.

Sorry i don't sing Lebron's praises as much as you'd like, but there's more than enough of that from you vermin, and i'd rather stand directly opposed to such worthless rabble. Besides, there's are plenty of negatives to point out, even if you're oblivious to them.

Hopefully the team can get over the injury and health disaster that has been this season, and come back strong next year. Something like a:

Dragic/Chalmers
Wade/Johnson
Deng/Beasley
Bosh/McRoberts
Whiteside/Birdman

lineup would be refreshing, and a nice change from what had become a bit dried out. I prefer that to what there'd likely be if Bron were still here, along with the media circus he carries everywhere he goes (one he loves, and worked to create).

[r15mohd]

And pretty much none of the actual Heat fans on here consider you to be anything other than a poorly-disguised Bron stan. Honestly, it's pathetic the extent towards you belittle everyone else in Miami to prop up your Gawd. Stop being such a piece of slime, be true to yourself, stop the facade, and adopt a Henry Abbott avatar already. Enough of your bullshit.

I don't reject anything Lebron did in Miami, nor am i salty about him leaving (glad, actually, the team needed a new look, the previous 'only the playoffs matters' made the most recent season a real bore). What i do reject is the constant and concerted attempt of the Bron-stan brigade (of which you are a part) to denigrate what everyone else did on that team, and to ignore that Bron's stats were inflated respective to others on the team because the offense was built to suit him and his strengths, to offset the possibility of another 2011 finals sulking performance, where (when it looked like he wasn't going to win finals mvp), he literally stopped bothering to play basketball.

Sorry i don't sing Lebron's praises as much as you'd like, but there's more than enough of that from you vermin, and i'd rather stand directly opposed to such worthless rabble. Besides, there's are plenty of negatives to point out, even if you're oblivious to them.

Hopefully the team can get over the injury and health disaster that has been this season, and come back strong next year. Something like a:

Dragic/Chalmers
Wade/Johnson
Deng/Beasley
Bosh/McRoberts
Whiteside/Birdman

lineup would be refreshing, and a nice change from what had become a bit dried out. I prefer that to what there'd likely be if Bron were still here, along with the media circus he carries everywhere he goes (one he loves, and worked to create).

here's utter BS and why you just don't like Lebron...who really thinks early playoff exits and no contention for a Finals is "dried out?" you want excitement, become Clips fan and watch the constant lobs all game while experiencing the same early eliminations. what kind of fool are you, seriously?!? :facepalm

goal of a team is to win titles, and for you to keep insinuating that Lebron's method of getting us there is dried out and that you prefer now to the past 4 years is just plain stupid. you hate the guy, you choose every Lebron thread to discredit it. i'm probably the small sample of people here who appreciates everything he did and wishes Miami would of done more to keep him...I prefer watching him live and for us than against us.

the likes of you rather sit and hang your cap on Wade's crippled self because he's "loyal", and us scrape through an early exit...even if we make it there by the way things are looking.

this new team you're boasting on is only until the 2016/17 free agency....nothing future determined with all the short contracts in place. had Riley, and more so Arison, fielded the right squad with bigs and no cutting Miller, it would be 5 straight Finals. but how exciting is that, right, i mean it's nothing like what we are seeing now? :rolleyes:

[J Shuttlesworth]

No, even if the average of age was higher to the Heat, the core of spurs are much older.
The Spurs were able to get over 60 wins while only playing their core under 30 mpg each. It's really not worthwhile to compare the cores when the Spurs didn't rely on their core as much as Miami does. Spurs were clearly the deeper team.

Think about the fact that the guy who won FMVP isn't even part of the "core" you are talking about

[Beastmode88]

Not much difference, which is why the 2013 Heat team was also bad. It's a miracle he won in 2013 with Bosh putting up 12 pts 6 rbs and Wade putting up 15 pts on 44% in the entire playoffs


In LeBrons 12 year career, he's had a good team only 2 years (2011, 2012) far less than the 10+ years Magic, Bird, Kobe, Duncan has had with some loaded teams

http://i1.wp.com/gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/jesus-shuttlesworth-ray-allen-three-pointer.jpg

[dubeta]

http://i1.wp.com/gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/jesus-shuttlesworth-ray-allen-three-pointer.jpg

Nice, you left out the part where he was shit in all the other games. Ray plays good early on and no need for that shot in the first place

[Dresta]

here's utter BS and why you just don't like Lebron...who really thinks early playoff exits and no contention for a Finals is "dried out?" you want excitement, become Clips fan and watch the constant lobs all game while experiencing the same early eliminations. what kind of fool are you, seriously?!? :facepalm

goal of a team is to win titles, and for you to keep insinuating that Lebron's method of getting us there is dried out and that you prefer now to the past 4 years is just plain stupid. you hate the guy, you choose every Lebron thread to discredit it. i'm probably the small sample of people here who appreciates everything he did and wishes Miami would of done more to keep him...I prefer watching him live and for us than against us.

the likes of you rather sit and hang your cap on Wade's crippled self because he's "loyal", and us scrape through an early exit...even if we make it there by the way things are looking.

this new team you're boasting on is only until the 2016/17 free agency....nothing future determined with all the short contracts in place. had Riley, and more so Arison, fielded the right squad with bigs and no cutting Miller, it would be 5 straight Finals. but how exciting is that, right, i mean it's nothing like what we are seeing now? :rolleyes:
What the **** are you blabbing about you clown? I want Miami to compete, i don't want an 'early exit', but i also like the fresh look that team without Lebron, and all the crap that comes with him.

That team i listed, if it stays relatively injury free, wipes the floor with the 2014 Heat, which wasn't a particularly good or entertaining team at all. That whole season was boring and frustrating and stale. Just stating facts. And how exactly were they making another finals, wit Bosh and the major offseason acquisition out for the season?

Look at you saying 'Wade's crippled self' and pretending to be a Heat fan :roll: - you're a joke, boy. The Miami Heat have zero rings without Wade. Only Bron stans talk in that way. You're exposed: give up.

[OnFire]

Both extremely stacked in a pathetic conference. Its embarrassing and downrigt insulting to the lebrick framily that hes a measly 2/5



again, 2/5

Bron must hate his life

How"d the West let scrubs like Wade and LeBron beat their best team 2 and 3 times? Man the west sucks.

[OnFire]

Wade might score 40 tonight, he's not crippled. I'm interested to see Kyrie D up on Dragic though.

[ArbitraryWater]

At least Wade finished what turned out to be the most important game of the series :lol

Injured, old and somewhat out-of-shape Wade managed to outlast a 29-year old otherworldly athletic specimen. What does that say about Bron's mettle? He has none. His life has been a series of people handing him things, which is why he's such a mental pu$$y.

I can SOMEWHAT be fine with the rest of your posts, normal biases of being a fan...

but the bolded shit right here is unfair and illogical. He played the main part in winning you those 2 titles, and as much BS as you say about the Team being designed for him, look at it now... they got better Players than with him and aren't even half as good. Don't deny their scrubness.

If anything, you should be pissed at Wade for not carrying home that Game 1 W... I myself am still pretty salty about that cramp/AC, Miami up 2-0 = TOTALLY different series, even IF they go down 2-3 they'd STILL have GREAT chances at winning.

But Wade was invisible, whole finals long. Well, he was great in the game 1 first half, and game 3 3rd quarter... besides that? Nothing.

[r15mohd]

What the **** are you blabbing about you clown? I want Miami to compete, i don't want an 'early exit', but i also like the fresh look that team without Lebron, and all the crap that comes with him.

That team i listed, if it stays relatively injury free, wipes the floor with the 2014 Heat, which wasn't a particularly good or entertaining team at all. That whole season was boring and frustrating and stale. Just stating facts. And how exactly were they making another finals, wit Bosh and the major offseason acquisition out for the season?

Look at you saying 'Wade's crippled self' and pretending to be a Heat fan :roll: - you're a joke, boy. The Miami Heat have zero rings without Wade. Only Bron stans talk in that way. You're exposed: give up.

This team u list here CANNOT beat a Miami Heat squad led by Lebron, we've seen better teams struggle against them with a hobbled Wade and Lebron/Bosh doing most the work. Be serious for once.

And arbitrary is right, u completely disown Lebron for the 4 yrs he was here...you're no better than DMavs, who tries to prior up how great a 2011 team was as compared to the other 3 yrs. You try to over-give credit to the rest of the Heat squad when reality is, they weren't all that great. When one player is leading your team in basically every statistical category, and playing positions 1-5 to compensate for others players, what exactly does that tell you. Not the team isn't built right, but the so called stars in Bosh/Wade aren't holding their own.

As for last season being frustrating and boring, that's subjective...I enjoyed the grind...it made this team rethink its focus and put more pressure on Bosh/Wade to show up as they're supposed to. Both were the same as before tho, hit or miss.

As for crippled Wade...that's on you if you can't accept the realty of his play today. He's not a 1st option, we've seen he can't even be held to 2nd option role, 3rd option?!? :confusedshrug: that has nothing to do with "stanning", the same rhetoric most you fools use when you dont have anything worth saying. Kerp living in the past on Wade...he's not someone to build around, those who feel he's still worth something are no different than Kobe stans due to his past. Too bad the past doesn't mean shit This season, this ain't NBA 2k where you fathom over 2006 Flash in the Finals against 2015 opponents

[HiphopRelated]

Because he averaged 28, 8 and 4 on 57% fg, and 52% from 3. The second best option being Wade at 15, 4 and 3 on 43% fg and 33% from 3.:facepalm

But yes, lets blame Lebron:applause:
garbage time stats

[Nuff Said]

What ch is this on?

[sportsfan76]

What ch is this on?


espn mongo:facepalm