09 D-Wade vs ???

[Mass Debator]

Can anyone find a player that outperformed Wade's 13 game stretch (Feb 18-Mar 14) from 1980-now (except for MJ)? Yes, 13 is an arbitrary number.

37.2 ppg
10.4 apg
5.9 rpg
2.9 spg
1.4 bpg
3.9 topg
55% fg
42% 3p (4.8 attempts)
87% ft

Kobe had a 43.8/5.9/4.2 on 46/40/88 stretch in 06.
Iverson 36.8/7.4/3.8 on 48/37/80 in 06 also.

[Im Still Ballin]

So dominant yet still lost the MVP the Lebron

[ShawkFactory]

Don't the have the numbers up right now but TMac had a stretch in February or march in 2003 that was pretty ridiculous.

[Smoke117]

Wade :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[dubeta]

Nice, did he atleast make the 2nd round of the playoffs that season?

This is why I consider Kobe's 2005-2007 Jordan's 1984-1989 and Wade's 2009 seasons invalid from a statistical perspective.


It's easy to put up stats when you have no goal in winning games or playing a team game, but just statpadding for the sake of it when it's not in your teams best interests.

You need to atleast make the 2nd round of the playoffs and/or win 50 games that season for your stats to count. Definately not an official rule, but that's the way I see it, or else there's not really much to say about the stats.

[dubeta]

Nice, did he atleast make the 2nd round of the playoffs that season?

This is why I consider Kobe's 2005-2007 Jordan's 1984-1989 and Wade's 2009 seasons invalid from a statistical perspective.


It's easy to put up stats when you have no goal in winning games or playing a team game, but just statpadding for the sake of it when it's not in your teams best interests.

You need to atleast make the 2nd round of the playoffs and/or win 50 games that season for your stats to count. Definately not an official rule, but that's the way I see it, or else there's not really much to say about the stats.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

[Jacks3]

Did you just quote your own post? :biggums:

[game3524]

Nice, did he atleast make the 2nd round of the playoffs that season?

This is why I consider Kobe's 2005-2007 Jordan's 1984-1989 and Wade's 2009 seasons invalid from a statistical perspective.


It's easy to put up stats when you have no goal in winning games or playing a team game, but just statpadding for the sake of it when it's not in your teams best interests.

You need to atleast make the 2nd round of the playoffs and/or win 50 games that season for your stats to count. Definately not an official rule, but that's the way I see it, or else there's not really much to say about the stats.

:biggums:

This is only valid in Jordan's 1989(one of the greatest statpadding seasons of all-time, Wilt would be proud). But Kobe 2005-07, Jordan 1984-88, and Wade in 2009 were not them just statpadding. Those guys had to put up those numbers or their team didn't have a shot at winning.

[GrapeApe]

Nice, did he atleast make the 2nd round of the playoffs that season?

This is why I consider Kobe's 2005-2007 Jordan's 1984-1989 and Wade's 2009 seasons invalid from a statistical perspective.


It's easy to put up stats when you have no goal in winning games or playing a team game, but just statpadding for the sake of it when it's not in your teams best interests.

You need to atleast make the 2nd round of the playoffs and/or win 50 games that season for your stats to count. Definately not an official rule, but that's the way I see it, or else there's not really much to say about the stats.

How was it stat padding? He HAD to put up those kind of numbers just for his team to be competetive. That team had no business winning 47 games. They don't win 20 games without Wade. When Wade had a decent cast around him he went deep in the playoffs every year (save for '07 when he was injured). He even got to the second round as a rookie.

Edit: They won 43 games in '09 and 47 in '10. Overachieved both years.

[navy]

How was it stat padding? He HAD to put up those kind of numbers just for his team to be competetive. That team had no business winning 47 games. They don't win 20 games without Wade. When Wade had a decent cast around him he went deep in the playoffs every year (save for '07 when he was injured). He even got to the second round as a rookie.

Edit: They won 43 games in '09 and 47 in '10. Overachieved both years.
Still taking dubeta seriously lol

[Spurs m8]

Did you just quote your own post? :biggums:

This

[Wade's Rings]

Can anyone find a player that outperformed Wade's 13 game stretch (Feb 18-Mar 14) from 1980-now (except for MJ)? Yes, 13 is an arbitrary number.

37.2 ppg
10.4 apg
5.9 rpg
2.9 spg
1.4 bpg
3.9 topg
55% fg
42% 3p (4.8 attempts)
87% ft

Kobe had a 43.8/5.9/4.2 on 46/40/88 stretch in 06.
Iverson 36.8/7.4/3.8 on 48/37/80 in 06 also.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Mass Debator]

Nothing???

[Nowitness]

I'm sure KG had a 15 game stretch where he averaged 31/20/7/5/3.

[HomieWeMajor]

Not many phucking with my boi in 09. :bowdown:
One Man Wrecking Crew

[Fire Colangelo]

LeBron averaged 35.3/9.1/7.3/ on 51% FG in a 14 game stretch in 09.... in the playoffs.

[Cold soul]

09 Wade was insane so damn quick, fast, and explosive and crazy athletic. It's too bad injuries hurt his career Wade could of been so much greater historically.

[Demitri98]

Wait, dubeta is actually posting intelligent thoughts backed up by stats?

[Prime_Shaq]

Its a damn shame he didn't get MVP that year. His individual performance as a whole season was one of the greatest I've seen. What he did that year was the definition of carrying a team.

[Smoke117]

His 2009 season is the best season by any perimeter player last decade. He carried that abysmal team to 47 wins. He was an amazing scorer, an amazing defensive player, AND HE WAS THE TEAMS PG. Kobe, Lebron, Paul...none of them have a better season when you take defense and all of the rest of this into context.

[dubeta]

Stop bumping this thread his 2009 season was nothing special let's all come to an agreement and move on :facepalm

[Prime_Shaq]

His 2009 season is the best season by any perimeter player last decade. He carried that abysmal team to 47 wins. He was an amazing scorer, an amazing defensive player, AND HE WAS THE TEAMS PG basically. Kobe, Lebron, Paul...none of them have a better season when you take defense into context.
I'm still amazed he was able to will that team to 47 win :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

His 2009 season is the best season by any perimeter player last decade. He carried that abysmal team to 47 wins. He was an amazing scorer, an amazing defensive player, AND HE WAS THE TEAMS PG. Kobe, Lebron, Paul...none of them have a better season when you take defense and all of the rest of this into context.
Are you talking about just the regular season? Because if postseason play means anything, circa 2009 doesn't even hit top 5 for perimeter players.

[Smoke117]

Are you talking about just the regular season? Because if postseason play means anything, circa 2009 doesn't even hit top 5 for perimeter players.

Only an idiot sets aside a 79 game example for a 7 game one. That's all I have to say about your comment.

[305Baller]

**** LeBron stans. Garbage.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Only an idiot sets aside a 79 game example for a 7 game one. That's all I have to say about your comment.
Nobody is setting aside his regular season. Ignoring what a guy does in the postseason just so you can tout sensationalism isn't realistic.

Kobe in 2008 and LeBron in 2009, 2010, 2012, and 2013 were better, and had the more successful seasons. Period.

[Smoke117]

Nobody is setting aside his regular season. Ignoring what a guy does in the postseason just so you can tout sensationalism isn't realistic though.

Kobe in 2008 and LeBron in 2009, 2010, 2012, and 2013 were better, and had the more successful seasons. Period.

1. Defenses get better in the playoffs. The Hawks were 12th in the league during the regular season. They were capable of playing defense.

2. You watched the 2009 Heat right? Who the hell else were the Hawks going to focus on in the series?

3. Wade still averaged 29.1ppg on .565%ts.

4. Kobe can go **** his mother.

[Dresta]

Nobody is setting aside his regular season. Ignoring what a guy does in the postseason just so you can tout sensationalism isn't realistic.

Kobe in 2008 and LeBron in 2009, 2010, 2012, and 2013 were better, and had the more successful seasons. Period.
Why are you touting what can only be a subjective opinion as fact?

And Wade had a good postseason in 09, and only lost because the Heat team were necessarily terrible in preparation for 2010 free agency. I don't see why a front-office decision to sacrifice 2 years of his prime for the future, a future that included two championships (and would have been 3 if not for Le-Choke) and 4 finals appearances, should be held against Wade as a player. That's absurd.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Why are you touting what can only be a subjective opinion as fact?

And Wade had a good postseason in 09, and only lost because the Heat team were necessarily terrible in preparation for 2010 free agency. I don't see why a front-office decision to sacrifice 2 years of his prime for the future, a future that included two championships (and would have been 3 if not for Le-Choke) and 4 finals appearances, should be held against Wade as a player. That's absurd.

Most of that series was completely unwatchable given the blowouts, with Wade himself having shooting games of 8/21 and 9/26 along with shooting 40% in an elimination game. Guy had 2 maybe 3 games in that series that were good.

I don't fault Wade for having bad teammates, I just value players who had better and more successful years.

[Smoke117]

Most of that series was completely unwatchable given the blowouts, with Wade himself having games of 8/21 and 9/26 along with shooting 40% in an elimination game. Guy had 2 maybe 3 games in that series that were good.

I don't fault Wade for having bad teammates, I just value players who had better and more successful years...more


Oh...you value success. Because success is all about the individual, right? The 11 other guys on roster have nothing else to do with that. If Wade had Gasol and Odom in 09 his "success" would have been a lot higher no? Aren't you clever for figuring that out.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Oh...you value success. Because success is all about the individual, right? The 11 other guys on roster have nothing else to do with that. If Wade had Gasol and Odom in 09 his "success" would have been a lot higher no? Aren't you clever for figuring that out.
LeBron didn't have the best supporting cast around him in either 2009 or 2010. His coach was Mike Brown. :oldlol: Didn't stop him from making minced meat outta the Hawks in a way Wade should've done in the first round.

Not like I'm just overlooking the individual's play for team success either. Kobe and LeBron were both historically great during the seasons I mentioned.

[Smoke117]

LeBron didn't have the best supporting cast around him in either 2009 or 2010. His coach was Mike Brown. :oldlol: Didn't stop him from making minced meat outta the Hawks in a way Wade should've done in the first round.

Not like I'm just overlooking the individual's play for team success either. Kobe and LeBron were both historically great during the seasons I mentioned.

Dwyane Wade vs Celtics 2010 in 5 games: 33.2ppg .564%fg

Lebron James vs Celtics 2010 in 6 games: 26.8ppg .448%fg

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Dwyane Wade vs Celtics 2010 in 5 games: 33.2ppg .564%fg

Lebron James vs Celtics 2010 in 6 games: 26.8ppg .448%fg
The Celtics aren't the Hawks, and 09 Wade isn't 10 Wade.

Continue with your straw-man. I'm out.

[HiphopRelated]

The Celtics aren't the Hawks, and 09 Wade isn't 10 Wade.

Continue with your straw-man. I'm out.
But I'm sure you would say 2010 Bron was better than 2010 Wade

[Dresta]

LeBron didn't have the best supporting cast around him in either 2009 or 2010. His coach was Mike Brown. :oldlol: Didn't stop him from making minced meat outta the Hawks in a way Wade should've done in the first round.

Not like I'm just overlooking the individual's play for team success either. Kobe and LeBron were both historically great during the seasons I mentioned.Those teams take massive dumps over the Miami teams of those years. Seriously, stop with this garbage. That team won 66 games, and was a title favourite. Bron had a lot of good role-players, Wade had a rookie Beasley, and that Cavs team was built to have shooters and defend well (i.e. to suit Lebron's ball dominant style of play).

[f0und]

i watched all the games during that amazing stretch. it included these memorable performances.

the bloody lip game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGEmv-IcvY

"this is my house"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_lN7n_foUI

[305Baller]

i watched all the games during that amazing stretch. it included these memorable performances.

the bloody lip game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGEmv-IcvY

"this is my house"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_lN7n_foUI

:bowdown:

[Dragic4Life]

Nothing special. Run-of-the-mill to be honest, another McGrady, another Arenas, will definitely fade into obscurity decades from now.

[riseagainst]

lebron stans catching feelings.

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[305Baller]

Nothing special. Run-of-the-mill to be honest, another McGrady, another Arenas, will definitely fade into obscurity decades from now.

aww. :no:

[Prime_Shaq]

i watched all the games during that amazing stretch. it included these memorable performances.

the bloody lip game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGEmv-IcvY

"this is my house"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_lN7n_foUI
:applause:

[Mass Debator]

Some mentioned T-Mac so I came up with:

37.3/7.2/5.5 on 49/41/82 (Feb 21-Mar 19)

I'll look up Lebron next.

[ArbitraryWater]

His 2009 season is the best season by any perimeter player last decade. He carried that abysmal team to 47 wins. He was an amazing scorer, an amazing defensive player, AND HE WAS THE TEAMS PG. Kobe, Lebron, Paul...none of them have a better season when you take defense and all of the rest of this into context.

LeBron counts as a perimeter player, right?

So, no...

There are multiple LeBron versions better than '09 Wade ('09 LeBron himself), and if you're strictly talking regular season, probably a good portion too.

I love '09 Wade, but I'm tempted to taking 2010 Wade over him... I think he got better, and wasn't burned out(or whatever it was) come playoff time. Should have beat that Hawks team.

Lets not deny it, Wade was flat out disappointing in the playoffs.

LeBron swept Atlanta with a similarly trash team, putting up 34/8/6/3/1 on 56%.

[GrapeApe]

LeBron counts as a perimeter player, right?

So, no...

There are multiple LeBron versions better than '09 Wade ('09 LeBron himself), and if you're strictly talking regular season, probably a good portion too.

I love '09 Wade, but I'm tempted to taking 2010 Wade over him... I think he got better, and wasn't burned out(or whatever it was) come playoff time. Should have beat that Hawks team.

Lets not deny it, Wade was flat out disappointing in the playoffs.

LeBron swept Atlanta with a similarly trash team, putting up 34/8/6/3/1 on 56%.

There's no question Wade was burned out in the '09 playoffs. He had to be super-human every night that season just for the Heat to be competetive. Nevertheless it was a sub par series for sure by his standards that year. It's unfortunate that 2 of Wade's absolute prime years were wasted on bad teams, but it ultimately payed off so I can't really complain.

[jlip]

Taking the entire regular season into consideration, I honestly feel that CP3 was just as good as Wade that year.

[ArbitraryWater]

Taking the entire regular season into consideration, I honestly feel that CP3 was just as good as Wade that year.

CP3 so underrated.. said CP3's 09 season was just as impressive statistically, people didn't take it seriously.

[mehyaM24]

LMFAO at wade's season being top 5. lebron has multiple seasons better. kobe & chris paul have better seasons too.

i also agree that playoffs = deal breaker here. wade played a disappointing series vs atlanta. nowhere near what he was in regular season.

[GrapeApe]

CP3 so underrated.. said CP3's 09 season was just as impressive statistically, people didn't take it seriously.

CP3 was a beast that season. What seperated Wade though was how dominant he was defensively. Beyond the geat statistical production, that IMO is what made that season so impressive.