Will Wade make All-NBA this year?

[SouBeachTalents]

Westbrook, Harden, and Curry are obvious locks, then you have guys like Irving, Klay, Lillard, Butler, CP3 and Wall in strong contention. Do you think Wade will get an All-NBA nod this season?

[Legends66NBA7]

Not a chance. Missed too many games and he's well below his standards.

Curry, Harden, Westbrook, Paul, Lillard, Lowry, Irving, Butler (although he's missed some time now too), Thompson, etc... probably all more deserving.


And if these teams factor in team record, I can't see Wade being seriously considered.

[Dro]

Not a chance. Missed too many games and he's well below his standards.

Curry, Harden, Westbrook, Paul, Lillard, Lowry, Irving, Butler (although he's missed some time now too), Thompson, etc... probably all more deserving.


And if these teams factor in team record, I can't see Wade being seriously considered.
This....

[SaltyMeatballs]

I don't see how he can makes it over guards like Harden, Curry, Westbrook, Paul, Lowry, Klay, Lillard, Butler, Irving, Teague, and Wall.

[GrapeApe]

Nah, I can't see it happening. He might win POTM in the eastern conference for March though. So far at 27/4/5/2 on 55%.

[aj1987]

I don't see how he can makes it over guards like Harden, Curry, Westbrook, Paul, Lowry, Klay, Lillard, Butler, Irving, Teague, and Wall.
Wade is arguably better than all of them.

First Team - CP3 & Curry
Second Team - Harden & WB
Third Team - Klay & Wall

[plowking]

He is the MVP, so yes.

[dubeta]

No.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Wade is having a great year, but he's missed a lot of games.

He's putting up 21.6/3.7/5.2

No way Jimmy Butler deserves it over him

[T_L_P]

Wade is having a great year, but he's missed a lot of games.

He's putting up 21.6/3.7/5.2

No way Jimmy Butler deserves it over him

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2015&p1=wadedw01&y2=2015&p2=butleji01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/2

I personally don't think it's very close. I can see some arguments for Wade. But Jimmy clearly has the upper-hand in this race, meaning you need to make Wade's case for All-NBA over him, not the other way around. :confusedshrug:

[ButterFace]

No way.

[JebronLames]

He would make the All-NBA Defensive Scrubs 1st team

[jrong]

Not a chance. Missed too many games and he's well below his standards.

Curry, Harden, Westbrook, Paul, Lillard, Lowry, Irving, Butler (although he's missed some time now too), Thompson, etc... probably all more deserving.


And if these teams factor in team record, I can't see Wade being seriously considered.

First of all the answer to the question is, no, he won't make it. He's missed too many games.

However, Wade is still better in the regular season than anyone above, except the first four or maybe five on your list. Throw out your RAPM, win shares, ORTG, DRTG and all that crap (the Jimmy Butler comparison above is a crock; also because it's one of the most errant pieces of so-called conventional wisdom this year, let me add, Thompson is not better than Wade, not remotely).

The only question you need to ask is if these guys could be slotted in for Wade and do what he does for the Heat-- the go-to scorer and playmaker, the game manager and floor general, the guy who draws double and triple teams and sometimes beats them himself-- the guy who you depend on make the critical shots and the other plays too. If they can't, they're not on his level. Period.

And the reverse isn't true. It doesn't matter if Wade can't fill the role of Klay (etc.) because Wade's role is so much more demanding and all-encompassing. Only Curry, Harden, Paul and Westbrook and maybe Lillard could do it.

And in a playoff series, I'll still take Wade over any of them.

[HALLandOATES]

Wade would be at 25ppg if he didn't have those 2 hammys making him play like crap comin back from them. It's like anything Wade does he won't be top tier anymore because his injuries play such a role with him.100% Wade is just as good as any guard.right now he's showin it,and I i expect it to continue until seasons end, he was ballin b4 he got hurt and is doing work again.

[T_L_P]

First of all the answer to the question is, no, he won't make it. He's missed too many games.

However, Wade is still better in the regular season than anyone above, except the first four or maybe five on your list. Throw out your RAPM, win shares, ORTG, DRTG and all that crap (the Jimmy Butler comparison above is a crock; also because it's one of the most errant pieces of so-called conventional wisdom this year, let me add, Thompson is not better than Wade, not remotely).

The only question you need to ask is if these guys could be slotted in for Wade and do what he does for the Heat-- the go-to scorer and playmaker, the game manager and floor general, the guy who draws double and triple teams and sometimes beats them himself-- the guy who you depend on make the critical shots and the other plays too. If they can't, they're not on his level. Period.

And the reverse isn't true. It doesn't matter if Wade can't fill the role of Klay (etc.) because Wade's role is so much more demanding and all-encompassing. Only Curry, Harden, Paul and Westbrook and maybe Lillard could do it.

And in a playoff series, I'll still take Wade over any of them.

The cusp of the All-NBA Team is not comparing x player to Dwyane Wade. It's who the most effective players are, period.

Jimmy Butler is having a better season than Wade. He's a better player.

Your last sentence is essentially worthless. I'd take Duncan over Gasol in a Playoff series, that doesn't mean he deserves to be All-NBA over him.

[BlakFrankWhite]

1st team: Curry,Harden
2nd team: Westbrook,Paul
3rd team: Wall,Thompson

so no

[jrong]

The cusp of the All-NBA Team is not comparing x player to Dwyane Wade. It's who the most effective players are, period.

Jimmy Butler is having a better season than Wade. He's a better player.

Good God, you actually wrote that. Sigh. It's not about comparing players to Wade. It's about making a role-neutral comparison. Since Wade has the most demanding type of role, it makes sense to use his as a baseline.

You're an absolute fool if you think Butler could do what Wade does for the Heat. Wade is back playing the same role he played in every year except 2012 - 2014.

You're also deranged if you don't think the Bulls become instantly better by replacing Butler with Wade, like night-and-day better, suddenly having as a good a chance as anyone to come out of the East better.

Butler for all his improvement, isn't a 2011 D-Rose type player. Wade still is, even now, only more skilled and efficient with a higher basketball IQ, but obviously far less athletic at this point.

He's averaging 29 ppg on 57% shooting over the last 6 games, for god's sake. His performance has been uneven through the season for the same reason as always, playing through and between injuries. But, there aren't more than a few guards alive who can do what he does, and Butler ain't one of them.

[Papaya Petee]

Jimmy Butler is having a better season than Wade. He's a better player.
You're beyond retarded

[tmacattack33]

There are only three All-NBA teams.

So the answer is no.

[Jacks3]

Wade is putting up 21/5/4/ on mediocre efficiency (54% TS/104 ORTG), has missed 18 games, and his team is 30-36 with a -2.73 SRS in a pathetic conference. No, of course he doesn't deserve to make any All-NBA team.

[kennethgriffin]

Wade is having a great year, but he's missed a lot of games.

He's putting up 21.6/3.7/5.2

No way Jimmy Butler deserves it over him


this is a great year now? kobe averaged 22/6/5 this season and it made me wanna puke

[Dragic4Life]

it made me wanna puke
really? kobe's calorado snake is that gross?

[GrapeApe]

this is a great year now? kobe averaged 22/6/5 this season and it made me wanna puke

Kobe shot under 40%. That would make anyone want to puke. I wouldn't call this a "great" season for Wade, but a very solid one nonetheless. His per minute production is still borderline elite and he's shooting a very respectable 48%.

[derb2k2]

Kobrick's shooting percentages throughout his career are damning and it's why I will never see him in a respectable light.

All those points along with all those bricks. :banghead:

[aj1987]

Wade is putting up 21/5/4/ on mediocre efficiency (54% TS/104 ORTG), has missed 18 games, and his team is 30-36 with a -2.73 SRS in a pathetic conference. No, of course he doesn't deserve to make any All-NBA team.
1% less than Kobe's career efficiency.

[Smoke117]

By this time Wade is over "accolades". Considering how many times they screwed him over, (Kobe first team all def in 2009, 10 over him...:lol ) I stopped caring myself.

[Jacks3]

1% less than Kobe's career efficiency.
Kobe pre-Achilles injury had a career 56% TS/112 ORTG over 17 seasons, that's much better than 54% TS/104 ORTG, and those career numbers are deflated by playing so many seasons in the GOAT defensive era (98-04) where league average TS/ORTG was significantly lower.

So yeah, try again.

[ImKobe]

Kobe pre-Achilles injury had a career 56% TS/112 ORTG over 17 seasons, that's much better than 54% TS/104 ORTG, and those career numbers are deflated by playing so many seasons in the GOAT defensive era (98-04) where league average TS/ORTG was significantly lower.

So yeah, try again.

:roll:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufRj4jsCmtI

[aj1987]

Kobe pre-Achilles injury had a career 56% TS/112 ORTG over 17 seasons, that's much better than 54% TS/104 ORTG, and those career numbers are deflated by playing so many seasons in the GOAT defensive era (98-04) where league average TS/ORTG was significantly lower.

So yeah, try again.
You're comparing an old and injured Wade to prime Kobe? GTFO, kid.

"Pre-Achilles" Chuckbe has a career TS of 55.5%. 1.2% higher than current Wade (54.3%). So, "pre-achilles" Kobe was scoring on mediocre efficiency?

Oh, and Wade, as a rookie, put up 53% TS in the '04 season. Only 2% less than Kobe, who was in him PRIME. :oldlol:


Try again, kid.

[greatest-ever]

The answer is no but it isn't because he isn't playing well, its because the league is driven by guards and he isnt a top 6 guard anymore.

His numbers are all nba worthy tho, 21.6 ppg nearly 4 rpg and 5+ assists on 48 % shooting. But he has missed nearly 20 games and again the competition is crazy. But who knows, i suppose if he balls out the last 15 games or so he could earn a 3rd team honor but i doubt it.

[greatest-ever]

this is a great year now? kobe averaged 22/6/5 this season and it made me wanna puke
Kobe was shooting an embarassing 37 % from the floor and a laughable 47 ts%. That horrendous efficiency alone made him worse than Wade this season.

[Smoke117]

this is a great year now? kobe averaged 22/6/5 this season and it made me wanna puke

Comparing Kobe to Wade this season..:roll: :roll: :roll: *wipes tear from eye* I've missed you Kenny.

[Fire Colangelo]

Curry, Harden - 1st team
Westbrook, CP3 - 2nd team

He could squeeze into 3rd team if his good play continues and if he propels the Heat into the playoffs.

[dubeta]

Kobe probably had the worst 20/5/5 season in NBA history :oldlol:

[Papaya Petee]

If he continues doing what he's been doing all month, theres no ****ing way he shouldn't be NBA 3rd team

[jrong]

Jimmy Butler is having a better season than Wade. He's a better player.

Care to revise what looks like the most asinine post in pages? I'll give you a mulligan.

Or does Wade have to prove it to you again next game? Exactly how many times does he have to prove himself, incidentally? His whole career, or will he ever earn the benefit of the doubt, maybe in his last year or two, just for the sake of courtesy?

[Jacks3]

You're comparing an old and injured Wade to prime Kobe? GTFO, kid.


I used the first 17 years of Kobe's career, dolt. Was he in his prime for all those seasons? Idiot.



"Pre-Achilles" Chuckbe has a career TS of 55.5%. 1.2% higher than current Wade (54.3%). So, "pre-achilles" Kobe was scoring on mediocre efficiency?

Did you forget the part about Kobe having a 112 ORTG compared to Wade's 104? Did you miss the part about Kobe's career TS% numbers being deflated by his his time spent playing in the GOAT defensive era (98-04)? Yes, the typical pre-Achilles season from Bryant came on significantly better efficiency than what Wade has done this season.

Keep up, moron.

[Papaya Petee]

I used the first 17 years of Kobe's career, dolt. Was he in his prime for all those seasons? Idiot.



Did you forget the part about Kobe having a 112 ORTG compared to Wade's 104? Did you miss the part about Kobe's career TS% numbers being deflated by his his time spent playing in the GOAT defensive era (98-04)? Yes, the typical pre-Achilles season from Bryant came on significantly better efficiency than what Wade has done this season.

Keep up, moron.

Wade averaged 16.2 PPG on 46% FG his rookie year in the "GOAT" defensive era
As a 2nd year player, averaged 24.1 PPG on 48% FG in that "era"

06,07,09,10,11 Wade would dominate that era the same way he did after.

[dubeta]

The Kobe-Wade debate is absolutely hilarious

Two fan bases arguing which player was the better sidekick :oldlol:

[Jacks3]

wade's second year came in 2005 after the hand-checking rules had already been implemented, which is why league-average TS%/ORTG saw a huge jump compared to 2004. no, it was not the same era. not even close.

look at these ignorant wade stans.

:facepalm

[Papaya Petee]

wade's second year came in 2005 after the hand-checking rules had already been implemented, which is why league-average TS%/ORTG saw a huge jump compared to 2004. no, it was not the same era. not even close.

look at these ignorant wade stans.

:facepalm
Probably explains why Kobe shot 43.8% FG 32.7% 3PT in 2003-2004, yet when the rules were implemented his average was 43.3% FG 33.9% 3PT in 2004-2005.

Defense was so much easier the year after, yet Kobes efficiency stayed identical, or should I say lack of efficiency.