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JerrySeinfeld
03-18-2015, 02:42 PM
19/13
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18/5
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imdaman99
03-18-2015, 02:43 PM
What's worse? Perkins' offense or Kanter's defense? :lol

inclinerator
03-18-2015, 02:43 PM
#stacked

John Tesh
03-18-2015, 02:46 PM
Great pickup for Thunder.

JerrySeinfeld
03-18-2015, 02:47 PM
What's worse? Perkins' offense or Kanter's defense? :lol

the answer is always perkins when the question is whats worse

dunksby
03-18-2015, 02:54 PM
#stacked
No excuses.

BlakFrankWhite
03-18-2015, 02:59 PM
Bargain of the season

Eric Cartman
03-18-2015, 03:02 PM
Win win trade for everyone involved, even Detroit.

J Shuttlesworth
03-18-2015, 03:02 PM
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SwishSquared
03-18-2015, 03:05 PM
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He's the worst C in DPM (was third worst last season) and is now #64 (out of 73) in RPM for Cs. He was worse in RPM pre-OKC trade, but their defense is awful with him. He was even -6.5/100 possessions playing alongside Gobert. Good stat stuffer when it comes to points and boards though!

Dragic4Life
03-18-2015, 03:05 PM
the answer is always perkins when the question is whats worse
So Cavs ain't stacked right? Don't change your tune.

el gringos
03-18-2015, 03:09 PM
How much will the thunder pay to keep him? Someone will offer him what? 12-13 per?

Eric Cartman
03-18-2015, 03:13 PM
How much will the thunder pay to keep him? Someone will offer him what? 12-13 per?

If they paid Perkins 9 mil/year, they surely will pay Kanter 12-14

T_L_P
03-18-2015, 03:16 PM
So Cavs ain't stacked right? Don't change your tune.

They have the guy with the two highest scoring games in the league this season, as well as an All-Star SF in LeBron James.

Cleveland are stacked to the bone.

BlakFrankWhite
03-18-2015, 03:16 PM
Reggie was offered 4 year 48 mills right?

If true Kanter will prolly be offered the same or a bit more

juju151111
03-18-2015, 04:13 PM
He horrible defensively.

ImKobe
03-18-2015, 04:24 PM
I expect him to come off the bench when they do make the Playoffs. He'll be decent off the bench and defense won't be that big of an issue then.

Xiao Yao You
03-18-2015, 05:02 PM
If they paid Perkins 9 mil/year, they surely will pay Kanter 12-14

I imagine they wouldn't have traded for him if they weren't ready to pay him that kind of money.

HurricaneKid
03-18-2015, 05:27 PM
I imagine they wouldn't have traded for him if they weren't ready to pay him that kind of money.

They didn't give anything for him. Just a guy they weren't going to resign. I think it bought them a look. If anyone thinks this look has earned him 12-14M/ then you belong 20 years ago when people cared solely about Pts/Rebs. Because he is dreadful. I wouldn't pay him half that.

SaltyMeatballs
03-18-2015, 05:44 PM
Numbers don't tell the whole story. Kanter's weakness is defense, and that really hurts the Thunder.

Xiao Yao You
03-18-2015, 05:55 PM
They didn't give anything for him. Just a guy they weren't going to resign. I think it bought them a look. If anyone thinks this look has earned him 12-14M/ then you belong 20 years ago when people cared solely about Pts/Rebs. Because he is dreadful. I wouldn't pay him half that.

They gave up potentially 4 players for him. His passing is a bigger issue than his D. The scouting report says double him because he won't pass or will turn it over.

SwishSquared
03-18-2015, 06:10 PM
They gave up potentially 4 players for him. His passing is a bigger issue than his D. The scouting report says double him because he won't pass or will turn it over.They also got a future DET second round pick, Augustin, Steve Novak, and Singler in that trade, so they got 4 players back right now. They wanted Perk gone, Pleiss maybe wouldn't have made the roster (due to lack of spots), Jerrett it's a fringe player right now, etc.

His assist % has more than doubled and he is nearly averaging triple the assists per game (a whopping 1.3 vs 0.5 haha) since he started playing on the Thunder. He was a ball hog in Utah, potentially as a result of not wanting to be there (lol @ 5 total assists in his last 570 minutes there). He's passing more often now (or his passes lead to better shots- some noise in that data), but could clearly do more. His defense has sunk the OKC team defense and is the biggest concern, although Ibaka is clearly missed. Still has a slightly net negative rating playing next to Ibaka. Since his minutes were split up amongst other Jazz bigs, they've catapulted up the D rankings. His inability to play defense held back that roster, not to mention his selfishness.

Also, @ OP in these 5 games where he put up big stats, they're 3-2 with wins over the Raptors, T-Wolves, and a short-handed Bulls squad. Not like OKC isn't shorthanded, but the Bulls were without 3 of their top ~6 or so guys. Lost to LAC and DAL. So there's some extra context for evaluating his performances.

Eric Cartman
03-18-2015, 06:39 PM
So, kanter is the anti-perkins?

Xiao Yao You
03-18-2015, 07:27 PM
They also got a future DET second round pick, Augustin, Steve Novak, and Singler in that trade, so they got 4 players back right now. They wanted Perk gone, Pleiss maybe wouldn't have made the roster (due to lack of spots), Jerrett it's a fringe player right now, etc.

They wanted Pleiss this year so they certainly liked him. Lindsey talked like he wasn't ready yet. Jerrett is only 21 and is a stretch 4 so he certainly has potential for the Jazz. Plus a future 1st and 2nd to the Jazz. Also got rid of Novak's contract for next year which was nice.


His assist % has more than doubled and he is nearly averaging triple the assists per game (a whopping 1.3 vs 0.5 haha) since he started playing on the Thunder. He was a ball hog in Utah, potentially as a result of not wanting to be there (lol @ 5 total assists in his last 570 minutes there).

I wouldn't say he was a ball hog. He just isn't comfortable passing out of a double team.

SwishSquared
03-18-2015, 09:10 PM
They wanted Pleiss this year so they certainly liked him. Lindsey talked like he wasn't ready yet. Jerrett is only 21 and is a stretch 4 so he certainly has potential for the Jazz. Plus a future 1st and 2nd to the Jazz. Also got rid of Novak's contract for next year which was nice.



I wouldn't say he was a ball hog. He just isn't comfortable passing out of a double team.Yeah I was speaking about OKC's perspective. Jerrett didn't fit into long term needs b/c they have Ibaka, Adams, McGary, and now Kanter (not to mention Collison got extension). Losing him's not a big deal in long term, or short term really. The Thunder definitely liked Pleiss and he was in talks to come over next year for them, according to russwest0 a few months back (if you can believe him, idk). I do know before the trade there were worried about having a spot for him due to having to work Huestis into the mix, along with getting minutes for both Adams and McGary to further develop them. My whole blurb was about in that Jackson trade, they gave up 3 guys + first + second, but gained a second + 3 rotation guys + bench fodder in Novak.

Eh he may have not been comfortable but that's a ridic low amount of assists considering the opportunities in that offense. I think he wanted out and played like it at times.

Crose
03-18-2015, 09:17 PM
hey op (russwest0) why do you only post about lebron and thunder/westbrook? you said you were a heat fan :lol

AintNoSunshine
03-18-2015, 09:22 PM
so stacked

Xiao Yao You
03-18-2015, 09:25 PM
Never got the impression he wanted out until he said it.

SwishSquared
03-18-2015, 09:30 PM
Never got the impression he wanted out until he said it.Can't remember the reporters' names, but some posted on their social media accounts that his camp has pushed for trade for over a year now. They really turned up the heat on that request in the day(s) leading up to deadline. They could by lying of course, but they seemed to have some idea of stuff going on behind the scenes...

Xiao Yao You
03-18-2015, 09:44 PM
Yeah supposely he hasn't been happy for some time.