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Akhenaten
03-19-2015, 01:31 PM
2012 Lebron: 30/10/6 50% 22 shots per, 10 FTA
2006 Wade: 28/6/6 50% 19 shots per, 11 FTA

Finals

Lebron: 29/10/7 47%
Wade: 35/8/4 47%

2nd option prod

Playoffs

Shaq: 18/10/2 61% 1.7blks
Wade: 23/4/5 46% 1.3 blks

Finals

Antoine Walker: 14/6/2 39%
Wade: 23/6/5 44% 1.2 blks

3rd Option Prod

Playoffs

Bosh: 14/8 49%
Walker: 13/6 40%


Finals

Bosh: 15/9 45%
Shaq: 14/10 60%

Suffice it to say it required much more effort for Wade to carry his team to chip than it did Lebron particularly in the Finals. We wont even get into what the respective roleplayers did (4th -6th option) Chalmers was putting up 25/7 games in the Finals, 06 Finals for all intents and purposes was a solo act.

Wade's run was just clearly more impressive as he carried a much heavier workload and was under much more pressure and still produced at the same level Lebron did statistically.

Prime_Shaq
03-19-2015, 01:33 PM
Shaq the 3rd option :rolleyes:

Akhenaten
03-19-2015, 01:35 PM
Shaq the 3rd option :rolleyes:

Avg less points than Antoine Walker in the Finals.

Im Still Ballin
03-19-2015, 01:38 PM
No.

Eric Cartman
03-19-2015, 01:38 PM
This is like saying pizza is better than hamburgers.

You probably right, but it doesn't matter cause hamburgers are delicious.

Prime_Shaq
03-19-2015, 01:38 PM
Avg less points than Antoine Walker in the Finals.
Points is the only source of impact am I right? Not the big guy dominating the paint and drawing defenses. Oh let's not forget Shaq protects the paint while scoring at a 60% clip. Yeap, 3rd option.

TheMarkMadsen
03-19-2015, 01:44 PM
Points is the only source of impact am I right? Not the big guy dominating the paint and drawing defenses. Oh let's not forget Shaq protects the paint while scoring at a 60% clip. Yeap, 3rd option.

What the hell does defense have to do with "who is what option on offense"

warriorfan
03-19-2015, 01:49 PM
There was a lot more weight on Wade's shoulders and he was a lot younger and less experienced than LeBron as well. Both great performances but if take in account the context, Wade's '06 run was more impressive.

Prime_Shaq
03-19-2015, 02:03 PM
What the hell does defense have to do with "who is what option on offense"
Second option. Not second option on offense

Akhenaten
03-19-2015, 02:07 PM
Points is the only source of impact am I right? Not the big guy dominating the paint and drawing defenses. Oh let's not forget Shaq protects the paint while scoring at a 60% clip. Yeap, 3rd option.


Don't take too much offense, 2nd option is just another way of saying 2nd leading scorer.

oti
03-19-2015, 02:09 PM
I dont see what is there to debate

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-19-2015, 02:09 PM
LeBron's overall numbers throughout the postseason were more impressive along with the teams he went through to win a chip.

Guy had arguably the greatest elimination game of all time vs Boston, dropping 45/15/5 on the road with stakes higher than few have played with.

G0ATbe
03-19-2015, 02:12 PM
06 Wade easily.

Prime Wade/Bosh>>>>>>>>>>>Shaq

LeBald didn't even deserve FMVP honestly.

BigNBAfan
03-19-2015, 02:35 PM
Avg less points than Antoine Walker in the Finals.

Shaq was what - in his 14th season?

Even with age his presence in the lane is a factor that is unaccountable. I wonder if someone could look up pts in the paint with him on the floor, it would be interesting.

dubeta
03-19-2015, 02:39 PM
Wade had the most dominant ever as his 2nd option

LeBron had a washed up scrub as his 2nd option


Lebrons and its not close

BlakFrankWhite
03-19-2015, 02:41 PM
LeBron.

2012 eastern conference was much tougher....you had contenders like Knicks,Bulls,Magic,Heat,Celtics and an emerging Pacers.

While in '06 it was basically Heat and a declining Pistons.....

Not to forget LeBron's legendary game 6 against the Celtics....one of the greatest playoff performances ever.

Wade's Rings
03-19-2015, 02:42 PM
Shaq was what - in his 14th season?

Even with age his presence in the lane is a factor that is unaccountable. I wonder if someone could look up pts in the paint with him on the floor, it would be interesting.

According to Dresta there are stats out there, that show the Heat were better when Shaq wasn't on the Floor. I never did research on it but that's an interesting point if it's fully true.

BlakFrankWhite
03-19-2015, 02:44 PM
According to Dresta there are stats out there, that show the Heat were better when Shaq wasn't on the Floor. I never did research on it but that's an interesting point if it's fully true.


Those 'stats' don't mean shit.....stats suggest Thunder play better when Westbrook's not on the floor....yet they're 5-11 in the games he's missed.

Wade's Rings
03-19-2015, 02:45 PM
LeBron.

2012 eastern conference was much tougher....you had contenders like Knicks,Bulls,Magic,Heat,Celtics and an emerging Pacers.

While in '06 it was basically Heat and a declining Pistons.....

Not to forget LeBron's legendary game 6 against the Celtics....one of the greatest playoff performances ever.

Knicks- Were not Contenders and were the 7th Seed. 2006 Heat defeat them.
Bulls- Lost Derrick Rose and got eliminated by Philly.
Magic- Had Chemistry issues with Dwight on his way out.
Celtics- Old and on their way out.
Pacers- 2006 Heat defeat them and they were not in full Contention form.

greatest-ever
03-19-2015, 02:48 PM
Wade had the most dominant ever as his 2nd option

LeBron had a washed up scrub as his 2nd option


Lebrons and its not close
Yeah that Washed up scrub was averaging 23 5 4 in those playoffs :oldlol:

Get your trolling 15 year old ass outta here.

greatest-ever
03-19-2015, 02:51 PM
This is a close comparison.

I originally would've said Lebron, but looking closer at the numbers Wade may have been a little better. Idk, it seems you can argue for either one, Lebron does have a large rebounding edge but he's a different position and 4-5 inches taller, Wade was more efficient though.

JT123
03-19-2015, 02:53 PM
Has OP ever heard of the word "context"
Why has no one mentioned that Bosh essentially missed 2 entire playoff series during the 2012 run? And enough of this myth that all of Miami's role players played great. Battier had 2 good games in the Finals, while Chalmers and Miller each had one good Finals game. Other than that Miami's role players were shit the entire playoffs, which is why Lebron had to go HAM to prevent an ECF loss to the geriatric Celtics.
Wade's run in 06 was okay, but there was too much controversy surrounding the officiating to put it any where near Lebron's 2012 run. NBA players who didn't even play for the Mavs were calling the series rigged. :lol

BasedTom
03-19-2015, 02:54 PM
Has OP ever heard of the word "context"
Why has no one mentioned that Bosh essentially missed 2 entire playoff series during the 2012 run? And enough of this myth that all of Miami's roll players played great. Battier had 2 good games in the Finals, while Chalmers and Miller each had one good Finals game. Other than that Miami's role players were shit the entire playoffs, which is why Lebron had to go HAM to prevent an ECF loss to the geriatric Celtics.
Wade's run in 06 was okay, but there was too much controversy surrounding the officiating to put it any where near Lebron's 2012 run. NBA players who didn't even play for the Mavs were calling the series rigged. :lol
:kobe:

dubeta
03-19-2015, 02:55 PM
Wade had the chance to play with peak Shaq and and Peak LeBron (2 top 5 GOATs and the 2 best peaks in NBA history) and the best he could do was a 3/5 :oldlol:

Wade's Rings
03-19-2015, 03:03 PM
This is a close comparison.

I originally would've said Lebron, but looking closer at the numbers Wade may have been a little better. Idk, it seems you can argue for either one, Lebron does have a large rebounding edge but he's a different position and 4-5 inches taller, Wade was more efficient though.

Factoring in Clutch Play, Help, Competition could put Wade over the top in who had the better run.

dubeta
03-19-2015, 03:11 PM
These Wade fans are just disgusting :facepalm

LeBron gave Wade two free rings to his resume, the least you guys could do is show respect where its due.

J Shuttlesworth
03-19-2015, 03:18 PM
2012 Lebron: 30/10/6 50% 22 shots per, 10 FTA
2006 Wade: 28/6/6 50% 19 shots per, 11 FTA

I don't get it. This instantly indicates a better playoff run for LeBron, but Wade clearly had the best finals. Wade had one of the GOAT finals performances all time

f0und
03-19-2015, 03:18 PM
wade's ECFs and Finals series are both better than any of lebron's '12 series. on top of that, miami was the underdog and wade put on one of the most heroic performances in NBA history.

JT123
03-19-2015, 03:25 PM
These Wade fans are just disgusting :facepalm

LeBron gave Wade two free rings to his resume, the least you guys could do is show respect where its due.
This. Ungrateful pieces of shit tbh. Bron carried Miami to a ring as the UNDERDOG in 2012, and then puts on the greatest game 7 shooting performance in Finals history in 2013!
The nerve to even try to compare Wade's rigged Finals MVP in 06 to the greatness Lebron displayed in just 4 seasons with the Heat...:facepalm

John Tesh
03-19-2015, 03:31 PM
These Wade fans are just disgusting :facepalm

LeBron gave Wade two free rings to his resume, the least you guys could do is show respect where its due.

You mean Wade let LeBron jump on board to a team that had a proven FMVP and another all-star so LeBron could be gifted 4 rings (and LeBron still only got 2 with 4 gifted to him).

Wade's Rings
03-19-2015, 03:34 PM
You mean Wade let LeBron jump on board to a team that had a proven FMVP and another all-star so LeBron could be gifted 4 rings (and LeBron still only got 2 with 4 gifted to him).

ETHER :bowdown:

Quickening
03-19-2015, 03:56 PM
Both better than anything Kobe has done

Megabox!
03-19-2015, 04:38 PM
wade's ECFs and Finals series are both better than any of lebron's '12 series. on top of that, miami was the underdog and wade put on one of the most heroic performances in NBA history.
Lbj's ECF > Wade's ECF

Hey Yo
03-19-2015, 04:45 PM
Has there ever been another guard who avg. over 16FTA in a 6 game Finals series?

riseagainst
03-19-2015, 05:09 PM
LeBron.

2012 eastern conference was much tougher....you had contenders like Knicks,Bulls,Magic,Heat,Celtics and an emerging Pacers.

While in '06 it was basically Heat and a declining Pistons.....

Not to forget LeBron's legendary game 6 against the Celtics....one of the greatest playoff performances ever.


:biggums:

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only contender is the Heat. Every other Eastern conference team was gonna lose to the Western champs.

:roll:

Showtime2001
03-19-2015, 05:59 PM
Both better than anything Kobe has done
Nope.

plowking
03-19-2015, 07:59 PM
Has there ever been another guard who avg. over 16FTA in a 6 game Finals series?

Kobe averaged 16FTA a game in a 6 game series. No one cared though.

I believe it was the WCF too.

Hey Yo
03-19-2015, 08:12 PM
Kobe averaged 16FTA a game in a 6 game series. No one cared though.

I believe it was the WCF too.
Thank You, sir.