Better Title Run: 06 Wade or 11 Dirk?

[Wade's Rings]

Who had the better Playoff Run?

[Bigsmoke]

Wade

[SuperCereal]

Dirk

[masonanddixon]

Dirk had the overall better run but Wade had the greatest Finals performance ever. So it depends on whether you'd say Wade's Finals trumps all.

[Bigsmoke]

Dirk had the overall better run but Wade had the greatest Finals performance ever. So it depends on whether you'd say Wade's Finals trumps all.

Wade playoffs run had better stats overall too

[LoneyROY7]

If Jeezy's paying LeBron, I'm paying Dwyane Wade.

[masonanddixon]

Wade playoffs run had better stats overall too

Yeah but they faced terrible opposition until the ECF and Finals and he had Shaq.

Dirk's team was Dampier/Diop, Crackhouse, Terry, Josh Howard, Devin Harris, and Darrel Armstrong--no joke.

[LoneyROY7]

Yeah but they faced terrible opposition until the ECF and Finals and he had Shaq.

Dirk's team was Dampier/Diop, Crackhouse, Terry, Josh Howard, Devin Harris, and Darrel Armstrong--no joke.

Reported for racism.

[John Tesh]

Dirk. He led a win over a stacked team. Wade won with more balanced teams.

[Wade's Rings]

Yeah but they faced terrible opposition until the ECF and Finals and he had Shaq.

Dirk's team was Dampier/Diop, Crackhouse, Terry, Josh Howard, Devin Harris, and Darrel Armstrong--no joke.

Bulls were 6th in Defensive Rankings and the Nets were 4th.

[Smoke117]

Yeah but they faced terrible opposition until the ECF and Finals and he had Shaq.

Dirk's team was Dampier/Diop, Crackhouse, Terry, Josh Howard, Devin Harris, and Darrel Armstrong--no joke.

Throwing names out doesn't make you right. A lot of those guys names you are throwing out had productive seasons. You don't need gaudy numbers to be an effective player.

[masonanddixon]

Throwing names out doesn't make you right. A lot of those guys names you are throwing out had productive seasons. You don't need gaudy numbers to be an effective player.

Oh come on. It was Dirk and a bunch of moving pieces. None of those guys except Terry has had any production since that season.

People love to pretend guys like Lebron and Westbrook are doing it on their own but Dirk was REALLY doing it with minimal help and getting to 60 wins-close to 60 wins every season in his prime.

[greatest-ever]

As a Wade fan i'd probably give Dirk a slight edge. You can argue either one though.

[FKAri]

Dirk for sure. But Wade had a much better finals.

[Hey Yo]

Has a guard ever avg. over 16FTA per game in a 6 game Finals series?

[Wade's Rings]

Has a guard ever avg. over 16FTA per game in a 6 game Finals series?

GOATS gonna GOAT

[HiphopRelated]

Wade was the best player in both Finals

[dubeta]

Dirks easily, only player to beat LeBron

[Wade's Rings]

Wade was the best player in both Finals

:cheers:

[Wade's Rings]

Dirks easily, only player to beat LeBron

Tony Parker, Kawhi, Dwight Howard? :lol

[plowking]

Wade, comfortably.

Dirk doesn't have a single series as good as the finals or the ECF that Wade put up that year.

27/6/5 on 62% shooting against the best defensive team that year, the Pistons.

Even his series against NJ was great. 28/6/7 on 49% from the field while also shooting 67% from 3 point land.

Dirk had a fairly average finals, and was out performed by Wade again. He was average in the first round, just like Wade was in 06, was better than Wade in the 2nd round, and had a great WCF himself, but Wade was better against Detroit than he was against OKC.

So Wade has him beat in the finals and CFs, but Dirk was better in the 2nd round, with the first being a draw.

Typical of this forum that Wade gets underrated again.

[GrapeApe]

Has a guard ever avg. over 16FTA per game in a 6 game Finals series?

Few guards in history were as relentless attacking the rim as Wade, especially young Wade. Dallas could not keep him out of the paint (nobody could) so it was either foul or give up a dunk or layup. It's not complicated.

As for OP's question, it's pretty damn close. I'm obviously biased but I think Wade's was slightly more impressive. He was not only unstoppable offensively, but also outstanding defensively (a very underrated aspect of his playoff run). Only Zo could be argued as having a greater defensive impact, and his minutes were very limited. I would probably say that Dirk and the Mav's run was more improbable though.

[Lebronxrings]

dirk. He went god mode in the playoffs, where opponents couldn't do anything against him. Wade wasn't even the best player on his team in 06.

[SouBeachTalents]

dirk. He went god mode in the playoffs, where opponents couldn't do anything against him. Wade wasn't even the best player on his team in 06.

Agreed, Wade was second fiddle to Shaq all year, especially Games 3-6 of the Finals where he was outscoring him by 25 points every game

[Smoke117]

Has a guard ever avg. over 16FTA per game in a 6 game Finals series?

Do you ever stop bitching about Wade?

[Asukal]

Dirk easily. He faced good teams in each series of his title run. Played clutch while being much older than his competition. All this while outplaying the big 3 in the biggest stage of them all. Dirk's run is legendary compared to dwhistle's :applause: .

[GrapeApe]

Agreed, Wade was second fiddle to Shaq all year, especially Games 3-6 of the Finals where he was outscoring him by 25 points every game

Yep, aside from Wade having better numbers, more MVP votes, more all defense votes, better playoff numbers, significantly better finals numbers, and winning FMVP, Shaq was the best player on the team.

[aj1987]

Do you ever stop bitching about Wade?
He's a LeBron slut. What do you expect?

[Fire Colangelo]

Dwyane Wade

[Real14]

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[Real14]

Wade was the best player in both Finals

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[Achilleas]

dirk :bowdown:
everyone neutral fan wanted dallas to win because it was the last chance to become champions good players like dirk,terry,kidd,marion,peja and the hate the collusion

[ArbitraryWater]

Wade, comfortably.

Dirk doesn't have a single series as good as the finals or the ECF that Wade put up that year.

27/6/5 on 62% shooting against the best defensive team that year, the Pistons.

Even his series against NJ was great. 28/6/7 on 49% from the field while also shooting 67% from 3 point land.

Dirk had a fairly average finals, and was out performed by Wade again. He was average in the first round, just like Wade was in 06, was better than Wade in the 2nd round, and had a great WCF himself, but Wade was better against Detroit than he was against OKC.

So Wade has him beat in the finals and CFs, but Dirk was better in the 2nd round, with the first being a draw.

Typical of this forum that Wade gets underrated again.

:roll: :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

Dirk, easily. His run was legit and he faced greater competition with less help.

And Wade's run was manufactured by the NBA looking for the next MJ.

[f0und]

lol at all these brown stains. they will dog on wade at every opportunity.

[Akhenaten]

Has a guard ever avg. over 16FTA per game in a 6 game Finals series?

There are 3 other series besides the Finals, you do realize this?

the thread is about title RUNS not just NBA Finals

[raiderfan19]

Dirk avged 32.2 on 55.7 fg% and 96.7% ft shooting against Okc that year. Wades never done anything like that

[dubeta]

Dirk, easily. His run was legit and he faced greater competition with less help.

And Wade's run was manufactured by the NBA looking for the next MJ.

This.

[greatest-ever]

Dirk. He led a win over a stacked team. Wade won with more balanced teams.
Lol at Wade's team being more balanced. He had a past prime shaq and a bunch of washed up vets. Dirk's squad was the epitomy of balanced.

[f0und]

Dirk avged 32.2 on 55.7 fg% and 96.7% ft shooting against Okc that year. Wades never done anything like that

06 ECF vs detroit

26.7ppg, 61.7fg%, 5.2reb, 5.5asst, 1.8stl, 1.5blk

but what the most impressive thing about that series is that thru the first 4 games, he averaged 30.8ppg on 69.5fg%. only kareem has done better.

[Wade's Rings]

Lol at Wade's team being more balanced. He had a past prime shaq and a bunch of washed up vets. Dirk's squad was the epitomy of balanced.

People think that having a Star name makes the team better and more balanced then a team with solid role players, who play their role excellently.

Dirk had 3 Point Shooters, Excellent Perimeter Defenders, Chandler was a great Interior Defender, and Ball Handlers. I remember seeing somewhere that 42% of Dirk's Points in the Finals were assisted.

[Papaya Petee]

Dirk avged 32.2 on 55.7 fg% and 96.7% ft shooting against Okc that year. Wades never done anything like that
No, he just averaged 34.7 PPG vs Dirks Mavs in route to a FMVP.

And he was better than Dirk in the 2011 finals, the series after the one you just mentioned.

Wade easily.

[brain drain]

No, he just averaged 34.7 PPG vs Dirks Mavs in route to a FMVP.
You forgot to mention the fact that he got 2 freethrows every time anybody even dared to look at him in that series.



And he was better than Dirk in the 2011 finals, the series after the one you just mentioned..
Well he produced better numbers in a series where Miami's defense was mainly trying to stop Dirk while Dallas was busy stopping Lebron while daring Wade to beat them. And Dallas won.

[Wade's Rings]

You forgot to mention the fact that he got 2 freethrows every time anybody even dared to look at him in that series.


Well he produced better numbers in a series where Miami's defense was mainly trying to stop Dirk while Dallas was busy stopping Lebron while daring Wade to beat them. And Dallas won.

People just look at the number of Free Throws without ever watching the series.

Wade's Numbers were better than Dirk's. Dallas made Lebron stand at the Corner and not participate in the Offense? Dallas made Lebron stand at halfcourt? Dallas was so focused on Lebron they switched Shawn Marion onto Wade and had 38 year old Kidd guard him? Dallas was so focused on Lebron they had 5'9 Barrea guard him?

[riseagainst]

it's close but i'd go with Dirk keeping in the mind the competition he faced. Sweeping the defending champs, destroying the Thunder who went the finals the following year. Also faced a stacked team of 2 top 3 players and a top 5 PF. What an epic run.

[eklip]

No, he just averaged 34.7 PPG vs Dirks Mavs in route to a FMVP.

And he was better than Dirk in the 2011 finals, the series after the one you just mentioned.

Wade easily.
He wasn't better than Dirk in the finals. The Mavs defense didn't even focus on stopping Wade. They tried to force the ball out of Lebron's hands and that opened up the lane for Wade. He also didn't score much when Miami desperately needed points, in the fourth quarter. Wade had nice stats, he finished many fast breaks, but in the fourth quarter when the Mavs run the offense through Dirk, there weren't many turnovers and easy baskets for Wade and he struggled to score in half court situations.

Dirk was double teamed all the time and took over in every fourth quarter. It was Dirk's worst series in the 2011 playoffs, but he was clearly the best player on the court.

[Papaya Petee]

You forgot to mention the fact that he got 2 freethrows every time anybody even dared to look at him in that series.


Well he produced better numbers in a series where Miami's defense was mainly trying to stop Dirk while Dallas was busy stopping Lebron while daring Wade to beat them. And Dallas won.

1.) Prove it. This topic has been beat to death a million times. We have photos and evidence of fouls on almost every single "Controversial" call for Wade. The other ones were clear fouls. People that say that didn't watch the series closely.

2.) Prove it. Once again, Wade was shooting at an absurd 55% FG for the series while being trapped, double teamed, and played every bit as hard as LeBron. Difference was LeBron stopped trying and Wade was finding ways to score.

[Lebron23]

Give me D-Wade

[raiderfan19]

No, he just averaged 34.7 PPG vs Dirks Mavs in route to a FMVP.

And he was better than Dirk in the 2011 finals, the series after the one you just mentioned.

Wade easily.
That finals is a bunch of bullshit.

[Wade's Rings]

That finals is a bunch of bullshit.
:roll:

[Papaya Petee]

That finals is a bunch of bullshit.
Yeah, bunch of bullshit Wade averaged 40 PPG through the last 4 games willing his team down.

Down 13 in the 4th quarter in game 3? Wade brings them back single handily. Oh wait, he only takes 2 free throws that 4th quarter :roll:

The Heat blow out the Mavs in game 4 by 20+ points, yeah Wades free throws have a lot to do with that.

Game 5 where Wade hits the game tying shot falling away banker to bring it to overtime, such bullshit. The 2 free throws to win that game? A legit foul. Plowking made a thread about that, showing pictures of Wade clearly being grabbed by Harris and pushed by Dirk.

Game 6, Wade makes 16 out of 21 free throws, and the only time he got send to the foul line where it was "arguable" was when he drove on Griffin and got the And 1 in the first half.

Please give me video evidence of me being wrong. Show me "fouls" that aren't legit fouls. You might find 3 calls that entire series that weren't fouls for Wade. in 6 games. People bitching because he attacked the rim all series long and got fouled. Free throws earned. Not his fault Dallas couldn't stop him from getting to the rim at will.

[Smoke117]

In my extremely biased opinion: Dwyane Wade.

[TheWalkman]

Dirk's run in 2011 was fvcking magical...

[Balla_Status]

People just look at the number of Free Throws without ever watching the series.

Wade's Numbers were better than Dirk's. Dallas made Lebron stand at the Corner and not participate in the Offense? Dallas made Lebron stand at halfcourt? Dallas was so focused on Lebron they switched Shawn Marion onto Wade and had 38 year old Kidd guard him? Dallas was so focused on Lebron they had 5'9 Barrea guard him?

Yes. Rick Carlisle is a genius. Kidd was guarded Westbrook in the WCF.

[gilalizard]

Dirk, obviously.