Payton's case for ROY

[Jameerthefear]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12513676/bpi-rankings-say-elfrid-payton-deserves-rookie-year-honors-andrew-wiggins?ex_cid=espnapi_public

This article is kinda dumb but Elf does have a case.

[Captvic]

Mirotic has ROY on lock.

[AI09]

This is what the top 3 will look like
Wiggens
Noel
Mirotic

Payton would finish fourth. I think Noel should finish 2nd but Mirotic could possibly get enough votes for 2nd. If Jabari didn't get hurt I think he could've gotten ROY or atleast 2nd.

[fiddy]

Lebron media with another bs article.

[Jameerthefear]

This is what the top 3 will look like
Wiggens
Noel
Mirotic

Payton would finish fourth. I think Noel should finish 2nd but Mirotic could possibly get enough votes for 2nd. If Jabari didn't get hurt I think he could've gotten ROY or atleast 2nd.
No. It's
Wiggins
Noel
Payton

Mirotic is 24. 3 years older than the oldest ROY candidate

[Take Your Lumps]

Numbers don't lie...he does have a case.

But ROY was earmarked for Wiggins before the season even started...

[RightTwoCensor]

Marcus Smart has a better chance than Payton.

If only Orlando had the opportunity to draft him...

[qrich]

Long shot case, but just not going to happen.




No. It's
Wiggins
Noel
Payton

Mirotic is 24. 3 years older than the oldest ROY candidate

It doesn't matter if he's 24, 18, 29, 22. He's still a rookie, therefore, eligible for ROY and deserves the third slot, if not second.

[fiddy]

No. It's
Wiggins
Noel
Payton

Mirotic is 24. 3 years older than the oldest ROY candidate
So what you dumb fuсk? Prigioni was a rookie at 35 years of age.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Numbers don't lie...he does have a case.

But ROY was earmarked for Wiggins before the season even started...

That's definitely true now that so many early RoY candidates have gone down injured...but Jabari Parker was favored to take the award over Wiggins at the start of the season.

As soon as Jabari got injured Wiggins became a lock.

[MMM]

payton s a nice player and the magic have some solid young talent, so i'm not sure why they don't have a better record. Feel like they should be closer to competing for a playoff spot in the east.

[Jameerthefear]

Marcus Smart has a better chance than Payton.

If only Orlando had the opportunity to draft him...
how is that when payton > smart

[RightTwoCensor]

how is that when payton > smart
:yaohappy:

Don't be stupid

[Chief Keef]

Weak class tbh

[poido123]

That ugly f.ck Payton could do with a haircut, that I do know.


ROY? Nah, OP is just hanging off his nuts.


:applause:

[fiddy]

how is that when payton > smart
:facepalm

[stalkerforlife]

I REALLY like Payton. Dude is long and plays some great D. Pass first player. Reminds me a LOT of Kidd.

If he improves that shot, it is OVER for the league.

[AI09]

No. It's
Wiggins
Noel
Payton

Mirotic is 24. 3 years older than the oldest ROY candidate

Age has nothing to do with rookies. Even if you are 40 years old if it's your first year you are considered a rookie and eligible for the award. Next you going to tell us Noel isn't a rookie he was drafted in 2013. Lmaooo keep trying to narrow down the list Payton will never be the best player out of the draft. Only thing Payton has is play making and decent defense. Your lucky players like Jabari Embiid and Randle went down with injuries because Payton wouldve finished at best 7th in ROY voting.

[Beastmode88]

No. It's
Wiggins
Noel
Payton

Mirotic is 24. 3 years older than the oldest ROY candidate

Jameer sounds shook.

[AI09]

how is that when payton > smart

Payton has outplayed smart all year so this is a better argument than Paytons case for ROY

[NustABut]

Paytons been great lately but I can't see him touching Mirotic for a better case, Nikola's been putting up some gaudy numbers lately with more touches and minutes on a much better team.

[magic chiongson]

that's cute, he's got almost similar stats to 2nd rd pick jordan clarkson

[RightTwoCensor]

that's cute, he's got almost similar stats to 2nd rd pick jordan clarkson
Rekt.

[John Tesh]

Payton isn't getting it.

[Chadwin]

airballing back to back free throws should disqualify him

[Take Your Lumps]

Marcus Smart has a better chance than Payton.

If only Orlando had the opportunity to draft him...

:oldlol:

Elfrid can't hit the broad side of a barn with his jumpshot yet and is STILL shooting 6% points better from the field than Smart.

Twice as many assists per game. It's not even close at this point.

[fiddy]

:oldlol:

Elfrid can't hit the broad side of a barn with his jumpshot yet and is STILL shooting 6% points better from the field than Smart.

Twice as many assists per game. It's not even close at this point.
and almost twice as many TOs

[RightTwoCensor]

and almost twice as many TOs
Rekt.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

:oldlol:

Elfrid can't hit the broad side of a barn with his jumpshot yet and is STILL shooting 6% points better from the field than Smart.

Twice as many assists per game. It's not even close at this point.
The fg% disparity is probably accounted for the high number of 3's smart shoots.

Payton is a good defender for a rookie, he certainly is not on smart's level though.

[Fudge]

Payton sucks.

Can't shoot, can't hit free throws, turns the ball over too much, too beta.

He doesn't even run the team offense. That's all on Daddy Dipo.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

The fg% disparity is probably accounted for the high number of 3's smart shoots.

Payton is a good defender for a rookie, he certainly is not on smart's level though.

Yup, 60% of Smarts shots are 3s compared to Payton's 6%. As a result Smart has a 3.6% edge in eFG%

[Jameerthefear]

Payton has outplayed smart all year so this is a better argument than Paytons case for ROY
And he's clearly outplayed him head to head too.

[Jameerthefear]

Rekt.
Now go look at Smart's stats. Stop your autism.

[Jameerthefear]

and almost twice as many TOs
Smart isn't a good passer. Payton is.

[Jameerthefear]

Payton sucks.

Can't shoot, can't hit free throws, turns the ball over too much, too beta.

He doesn't even run the team offense. That's all on Daddy Dipo.
Dipo couldn't run an offense if it slapped him in the face. Payton runs it.

[Jameerthefear]

Yup, 60% of Smarts shots are 3s compared to Payton's 6%. As a result Smart has a 3.6% edge in eFG%
Who gives a shit? Smart shoots only 3s because he's not quick and has trouble consistently getting into the lane. Payton gets to the rim effortlessly.

[Jameerthefear]

That ugly f.ck Payton could do with a haircut, that I do know.


ROY? Nah, OP is just hanging off his nuts.


:applause:
http://i.imgur.com/fWROA6w.png
You really don't need to be talking about anyone else's hair. I'm about to flame you.

[Meticode]

No. It's
Wiggins
Noel
Payton

Mirotic is 24. 3 years older than the oldest ROY candidate
And you're point is? Patrick Ewing was 23 when he won it. Elgin Baylor was 24 when he won it. David Robinson was 24 when he won it.

Grant it, those are all-time greats, but age doesn't mean anything for Rookie of the Year.

[Meticode]

http://i.imgur.com/fWROA6w.png
You really don't need to be talking about anyone else's hair. I'm about to flame you.
I can't talk about anyone else's hair either. :(

[FireDavidKahn]

I don't get why someone would say "x player has a case" when it is obviously going to Wiggins. Wiggins deserves it and it isn't close.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Who gives a shit? Smart shoots only 3s because he's not quick and has trouble consistently getting into the lane. Payton gets to the rim effortlessly.

And Smart shoots better at the rim :confusedshrug:

[Jameerthefear]

And Smart shoots better at the rim :confusedshrug:
Wrong. He shoots a lower % on much lower attempts.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Wrong. He shoots a lower % on much lower attempts.

Half right - Payton takes more shots there but shoots .507 compared to Smarts .525. Check basketball reference

[Jameerthefear]

Half right - Payton takes more shots there but shoots .507 compared to Smarts .525. Check basketball reference
link? i looked their shot charts on vorped.

[coin24]

Wiggins or Noel for ROY.. even Lavine or Exum over Payton :lol

How is gay griffin going Jameer? Solid pick Magic

[BlackWhiteGreen]

link? i looked their shot charts on vorped.

Payton http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paytoel01/shooting/2015/

Smart http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smartma01/shooting/2015/

[Jameerthefear]

Payton http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paytoel01/shooting/2015/

Smart http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smartma01/shooting/2015/
shot chart is a much better metic than 'at rim'
also, you're comparing a sample size of ****ing 59 shots to one of 268 and calling him a better finisher :roll:

[Take Your Lumps]

Payton's working on his second straight triple-double vs. Portland tonight.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

shot chart is a much better metic than 'at rim'
also, you're comparing a sample size of ****ing 59 shots to one of 268 and calling him a better finisher :roll:

Nope, I said he shoots better from there. Facts are facts, Jameer. Make your case elsewhere

[Jameerthefear]

Nope, I said he shoots better from there. Facts are facts, Jameer. Make your case elsewhere
Are you trolling? Elf is the obviously better finisher if he has shot literally moer than 200 shots from the spot and has only a 2% worse rate. Stop.

[r0drig0lac]

triple double :applause:

[Take Your Lumps]

22/10/10/4stls on 10-13 shooting. :applause:

[RightToCensor]

I've got to watch Payton to see how he's getting his triple doubles. I can't believe in boxscore numbers anymore, he might be statpadding rebounds and assists like Rondo did in Boston.

[Jameerthefear]

I've got to watch Payton to see how he's getting his triple doubles. I can't believe in boxscore numbers anymore, he might be statpadding rebounds and assists like Rondo did in Boston.
he's passing to oladipo, vucevic, and harkless
while rondo was passing to pierce, garnett, and allen.
stop trolling please.