View Full Version : If Kobe is so great. Why hasn't he shot above 50 percent?
JohnMax
03-20-2015, 04:59 AM
For comparison, Tony Parker and Goran Dragic have done it
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Tony Parker and Goran Dragic get to the rim much better than kobe. And are great finishers. Same as Jordan.
Plus Kobe is a known to take low percentage shots and convert them at average or maybe even above average rates, which are still low rates.
But you already knew this.
AnaheimLakers24
03-20-2015, 05:24 AM
He won 5 rings. You think lakers fans care?
Marchesk
03-20-2015, 08:35 AM
He's not enamored with efficiency and takes more difficult shots then most players. Kobe looked to score first, not wait for the most efficient shot.
5 rings speak for themselves.
RightTwoCensor
03-20-2015, 08:38 AM
If Kobe is so great, why hasn't he shot 50% from three?
Kyle Korver did it
magic chiongson
03-20-2015, 10:41 AM
white mamba (shot over 50% in 1 season) > black mamba
Lebronxrings
03-20-2015, 10:46 AM
because hes not great
JonatanRey
03-20-2015, 10:50 AM
He took more 3s and more shots than most superstars you want to compare. And yes, he has taken more difficult shots too.
Im Still Ballin
03-20-2015, 10:53 AM
His inefficiency benefits from Kobe-assists
The intuition of his teammates, knowing he is going to chuck another 18 ft fade, position themselves for superior rebounding position
Eric Cartman
03-20-2015, 10:53 AM
Shooting shitty shots all the time, plus if cold gonna hoist them motherf*ckers up with no regard. If he cared about fg% we would have a dramatic improvement.
Im Still Ballin
03-20-2015, 11:00 AM
But let's be real
Stats are good, but imagine how much an impact a couple bad shots or buzzer beaters from half court a game can affect seasonal %'s
When it comes down to it basketball is played in the moment, on the court. Stats are a reflection of the moment, but they do not determine the outcome. They can give an idea to the success and tendency of a certain players history, but when it comes down to it guys like Kobe know how to turn it on when it counts... You can't deny Kobe in this... You don't win 5 times if you cant... Yeah he had shaq, yeah he had Pau... But when the crunch is on... Kobe's your man. Check the playoff 4th q stats, better than Shaq... This is the way Kobe plays, sometimes it fails, but 5 times it worked. You can't deny his methods when he has the gold to show for it
BlakFrankWhite
03-20-2015, 11:18 AM
Kobe has the most missed shots ever
SOD 21
03-20-2015, 12:12 PM
Kobe Bryant was always good for four, five or maybe six low percentage shots per game and took a fairly high number of three-point field-goal attempts as well A combination of those things kept his field-goal percentage is lower than it probably should've been.
I always thought Kobe was at his best when he allowed to the game to come to him and not always force himself on the game quite so much like he would sometimes do. Kobe would have been even greater than he was if he demonstrated a little bit more patience and allowed the game to come to him a little bit more often.
John Tesh
03-20-2015, 12:19 PM
I always thought Kobe was at his best when he allowed to the game to come to him and not always force himself on the game quite so much like he would sometimes do. Kobe would have been even greater than he was if he demonstrated a little bit more patience and allowed the game to come to him a little bit more often.
I like to imagine if Kobe aimed for high fg% like LeBron did with Miami, and LeBron with 2005-06 Kobe's mentality of shooting rather than trusting teammates.
choppermagic
03-20-2015, 12:22 PM
What an asinine thread. Somehow the round figure of 50% of FG% is your mythical measure of greatness? So if he shoots 46.5% and carries his team to the championship, he's a bad player for not shooting 50%? Ridiculous. Shooting pressure and buzzer shots and 3 point shots obviously factor in there.
It's like saying If Lebron is so great, how come he's never shot over 90% from the FT line? Jeremy Lamb has done it.
Levity
03-20-2015, 12:25 PM
cause kobes a noob and was gifted 5 rings by stern and the refs, thats why. :rolleyes:
im curious to hear what the stats are for teams who's best player shot 50% or greater and went on to win a championship that year, as opposed to shooting that percentage and not winning it that year. and secondly, numbers of championships where the teams best player shot under 50% and still went on to win a ring that year.
f0und
03-20-2015, 12:36 PM
if someone didnt know anything about the nba and listened to kobe kids describe kobe, he would hear about his unlimited repertoire of moves. how he's the most skilled player ever. best footwork in the game. an unstoppable scoring machine. a killer in the clutch. on par with jordan. a master of the game.
what kind of opinion do you think that person would have about kobe after hearing all that? he would probably think that kobe is at least a 50%-ish career fg shooter. but in actuality, he's never had one single season in his entire career with a 50%+ fg. you would think he'd have at least one. his career high is a measly 46.5%.
He was never even close to shooting 50%. I've always been interested in it.
Shooting better % is a product of how easy the game is to you. Every basketball player wants to figure out how to score easy baskets all the time while eliminating the bad shots that hurt your team.
Real Men Wear Green
03-20-2015, 12:44 PM
If shooting above 50% is so great why aren't Parker or Dragic anywhere near Bryant's level? Stupid topic.
r0drig0lac
03-20-2015, 12:47 PM
because he is alpha as f..k
FlashDwyaneWade3
03-20-2015, 02:00 PM
If Allen Iverson, Russell Westbrook, Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter was so great, why haven't they shot 50%?
Dr Seuss
03-20-2015, 02:07 PM
if someone didnt know anything about the nba and listened to kobe kids describe kobe, he would hear about his unlimited repertoire of moves. how he's the most skilled player ever. best footwork in the game. an unstoppable scoring machine. a killer in the clutch. on par with jordan. a master of the game.
what kind of opinion do you think that person would have about kobe after hearing all that? he would probably think that kobe is at least a 50%-ish career fg shooter. but in actuality, he's never had one single season in his entire career with a 50%+ fg. you would think he'd have at least one. his career high is a measly 46.5%.
or you know, theyll see that kobe has 5 rings as the teams best or 2nd best player and then say theyll say to themselves that maybe shooting 50% isnt a prerequisite to greatness. in fact, its not a prerequisite to anything other than impressing stat nerds who live in a world of arbitrary numbers.
BlakFrankWhite
03-20-2015, 02:08 PM
If Allen Iverson, Russell Westbrook, Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter was so great, why haven't they shot 50%?
Unlike kobe and the other 3 you've mentioned...Westbrook's an elite passer,rebounder(8.5 apg,7.3 rpg)....so he's more then made up for his sometimes "ill-advised" shots
Dr Seuss
03-20-2015, 02:11 PM
Unlike kobe and the other 3 you've mentioned...Westbrook's an elite passer,rebounder(8.5 apg,7.3 rpg)....so he's more then made up for his sometimes "ill-advised" shots
has kobe not made up for his sometimes "ill-advised" shots?
has kobe not made up for his sometimes "ill-advised" shots?
Nah man, only has 5 rings in 18 years. That's only a 27.8% win percentage.
riseagainst
03-20-2015, 04:26 PM
Nah man, only has 5 rings in 18 years. That's only a 27.8% win percentage.
terrible efficiency. Worst player of all time.
KingLeBronJames
03-20-2015, 05:00 PM
terrible efficiency. Worst player of all time.
How is shooting 45/46% terrible efficiency? That's just stupid.
SwayDizzle
03-20-2015, 05:03 PM
But let's be real
Stats are good, but imagine how much an impact a couple bad shots or buzzer beaters from half court a game can affect seasonal %'s
When it comes down to it basketball is played in the moment, on the court. Stats are a reflection of the moment, but they do not determine the outcome. They can give an idea to the success and tendency of a certain players history, but when it comes down to it guys like Kobe know how to turn it on when it counts... You can't deny Kobe in this... You don't win 5 times if you cant... Yeah he had shaq, yeah he had Pau... But when the crunch is on... Kobe's your man. Check the playoff 4th q stats, better than Shaq... This is the way Kobe plays, sometimes it fails, but 5 times it worked. You can't deny his methods when he has the gold to show for it
good post bro :applause:
Smoke117
03-20-2015, 05:06 PM
Koooooooooooobrick.
20Four
03-20-2015, 05:06 PM
But let's be real
Stats are good, but imagine how much an impact a couple bad shots or buzzer beaters from half court a game can affect seasonal %'s
When it comes down to it basketball is played in the moment, on the court. Stats are a reflection of the moment, but they do not determine the outcome. They can give an idea to the success and tendency of a certain players history, but when it comes down to it guys like Kobe know how to turn it on when it counts... You can't deny Kobe in this... You don't win 5 times if you cant... Yeah he had shaq, yeah he had Pau... But when the crunch is on... Kobe's your man. Check the playoff 4th q stats, better than Shaq... This is the way Kobe plays, sometimes it fails, but 5 times it worked. You can't deny his methods when he has the gold to show for it
http://i.imgur.com/D3NDQX2.gif
Genaro
03-20-2015, 05:14 PM
He has 8.8/19.6 career FG witch means 45%. 50% would be 9.8, one more shot.
Now this would change everything for sure. If he could make 1 plus shot it would completely change my view about him and his career. :rolleyes:
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