Tell me why Harden is better than Wade

[HALLandOATES]

Besides wades 18 games missed why is harden better?

[Mass Debator]

Healthier and can shoot the 3
25/6/4 vs 27/7/6 per 36

[John Tesh]

Buckets

[spiegel]

Look at his teams record which has the 4th best record in the league all the while harden has carried them night in night out with multipale injuries to key players.

Houston has blown out the heat twice all the while harden easily outplayed Wade one and one in both games.

[RightTwoCensor]

Did I time travel back to 2012?

[dubeta]

is this a joke? Harden has been better for like 4 years now

[SexSymbol]

Better passer, better scorer, better rebounder, similar level of defense.
He's leading a depleted Rockets team to elite level.
Oh and he actually plays in pretty much every game

[Jacks3]

much better shooter.

much better efficiency.

better passer/playmaker.

better rebounder.

durability is part of 'goodness" and harden destroys wade there.

it's not close at all.

[spiegel]

1st matchup Houston wins 108 to 91

harden 28 points 10 boards 9 assists on 6-13 shooting and 3-7 3pt 10-10 ft

Wade 19 points 3 boards 2 assists 7-11 fg 5-5 ft

game two
Houston 115 to Miami 79

Harden 28 points 5 boards 2 assists 9-17 fg 3-6 3p 7-7 ft

Wade 15 points 5 boards 4 assists 5-11 fg 5-5 ft

[Wade's Rings]

Look at his teams record which has the 4th best record in the league all the while harden has carried them night in night out with multipale injuries to key players.

Houston has blown out the heat twice all the while harden easily outplayed Wade one and one in both games.

Wade and Harden weren't even guarding each other in those Games. Ariza was on Wade and vice versa.

[HALLandOATES]

much better shooter.

much better efficiency.

better passer/playmaker.

better rebounder.

durability is part of 'goodness" and harden destroys wade there.

it's not close at all.


Are you kidding? more efficient? Playmaking/passing they're the same

[Wade's Rings]

much better shooter.

much better efficiency.

better passer/playmaker.

better rebounder.

durability is part of 'goodness" and harden destroys wade there.

it's not close at all.

You're a joke of a poster if you're talking about All-Time Rankings:roll:

[Jacks3]

Are you kidding? more efficient? Playmaking/passing they're the same

yes, more efficient.

harden: 60% TS/118 ORTG
wade: 54% TS/104 ORTG

and harden is maintaining that HUGE efficiency advantage while scoring about 5 more PPG. they're not even in the same universe.

they're not the same as passer/playmakers. at this point harden is drawing more defensive attention, averaging more apg, and is the best non-PG pick&roll player in basketball.

[Jacks3]

You're a joke of a poster if you're talking about All-Time Rankings:roll:

are you retarded? i'm obviously talking about the current season. jesus.

[UK2K]

I feel like because harden actually plays he wins

[Wade's Rings]

are you retarded? i'm obviously talking about the current season. jesus.

ok then

[dubeta]

You're a joke of a poster if you're talking about All-Time Rankings:roll:

Even when considering all-time I would still take Harden

[oti]

Even when considering all-time I would still take Harden

Is it because of his Playoffs perfomance?

[HALLandOATES]

some of you guys aren't even being rational,like I can tell if you're joking around

I said leave health out of it because obviously it makes harden the better player if you count that .his 26ppg look better to.

true heat fans and if you've remotley watched Wade you'd know he'd be around 25ppg if he hadnt got hurt twice .some of you guys are acting like Wade is playing 2014 finals basketaball all year.when he's been on the floor he's honestly been better than he has since 2011,minus a couple playoff series from 2012

I get it if you think hardens been better,but it's close when wades been on the floor and that's why I said "besides injuries" .people acting like it's not are the ones that I don't think have watched him lately or at all.

Weatbrook hasn't played as much as Harden this season but to me if you didn't count injures he's been better,same kinda thing with Wade

[Wade's Rings]

some of you guys aren't even being rational,like I can tell if you're joking around

I said leave health out of it because obviously it makes harden the better player if you count that .his 26ppg look better to.

true heat fans and if you've remotley watched Wade you'd know he'd be around 25ppg if he hadnt got hurt twice .some of you guys are acting like Wade is playing 2014 finals basketaball all year.when he's been on the floor he's honestly been better than he has since 2011,minus a couple playoff series from 2012

I get it if you think hardens been better,but it's close when wades been on the floor and that's why I said "besides injuries" .people acting like it's not are the ones that I don't think have watched him lately or at all.

Weatbrook hasn't played as much as Harden this season but to me if you didn't count injures he's been better,same kinda thing with Wade

I don't know where they stand on Defense. I have heard Harden has improved this year but then he stopped playing Defense again. Wade started off not playing Defense but has really been locked in the last month or so.

[Dragic4Life]

Wade's peak couldn't touch this season's Harden.

[aj1987]

Wade's peak couldn't touch this season's Harden.
So, Harden this season >>> LeBum's peak?

:oldlol: @ the idiots saying that Harden is a better passer.

Harden > Wade this season though.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

D-Wade still better than that Kobe stan, James Harden.

[RightTwoCensor]

Harden is a better passer, compared to 25 year old Wade.

Harden is poised to average 8 APG next season as he progresses his game, which his a higher assist per game average then Wade ever has had.

[Milbuck]

He's not. I would still take Wade on my team 10 times out of 10.

[RightTwoCensor]

What does Wade even do better than Harden this season?

Lose? Sit games?

[Wade's Rings]

He's not. I would still take Wade on my team 10 times out of 10.
:bowdown: :applause:

[Smoke117]

We all know who will be better come playoff time. That is all that matters.

[Wally450]

He's younger, puts up better numbers and keeps his team in contention for a good playoff spot.

[RightTwoCensor]

He's not. I would still take Wade on my team 10 times out of 10.
Because your team is full of fragile losers? I understand.

[fragokota]

Wade's peak couldn't touch this season's Harden.

:biggums:

[RightTwoCensor]

Didn't peak Wade win like 43 games? :yaohappy:

Stats more empty than his knee.

[RightToCensor]

Didn't peak Wade win like 43 games? :yaohappy:

Stats more empty than his knee.
http://media.tumblr.com/e16dd16f4de841b391f118f72714a54e/tumblr_inline_nbat9kBEXc1satqni.gif

[Dragic4Life]

Didn't peak Wade win like 43 games? :yaohappy:

Stats more empty than his knee.
:oldlol:

[Lebronxrings]

Didn't peak Wade win like 43 games? :yaohappy:

Stats more empty than his knee.
:lebronamazed:

[aj1987]

Didn't peak Wade win like 43 games? :yaohappy:

Stats more empty than his knee.
Still played more games than Haren on his own team in the PO's. You honestly want to bring up previous seasons? '13 Wade >> Current Haren.

[Smoke117]

Still played more games than Haren on his own team in the PO's. You honestly want to bring up previous seasons? '13 Wade >> Current Haren.

The 09 team wouldn't even win 30 games if you replace Wade with this years Harden.

[RightToCensor]

Mario Chalmers
James Harden | Daequan Cook
Jamario Moon | Michael Beasley
Shawn Marion | Udonis Haslem
Jermaine O'Neal | Joel Anthony

He'd defiantly win more than 43 games with that lineup.

[Wade's Rings]

Mario Chalmers
James Harden | Daequan Cook
Jamario Moon | Michael Beasley
Shawn Marion | Udonis Haslem
Jermaine O'Neal | Joel Anthony

He'd defiantly win more than 43 games with that lineup.

:lol

[bdreason]

Harden doesn't get hurt every 10 games.

[RightToCensor]

43 games in the East is like 30 in the West.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Wade has arguably the greatest peak of an SG outside of Jordan

Harden isn't at that level.

As far as this season, Harden is better because of his health. You can depend on him to play a full 82 games.

We're talking about 27/7/6 vs. 22/3.7/5

Harden is clearly better

[aj1987]

Mario Chalmers
James Harden | Daequan Cook
Jamario Moon | Michael Beasley
Shawn Marion | Udonis Haslem
Jermaine O'Neal | Joel Anthony

He'd defiantly win more than 43 games with that lineup.
:roll:

He'd be lucky to win 20 games.

O'Neal played 27 games
Marion played 42 games
Moon played 26 games
Cook? :oldlol:
Beasley? :oldlol:
Rookie Chalmers and is still a shit player.

Yeah, not winning more than 20 with Harden in Wade's place.

[greatest-ever]

is this a joke? Harden has been better for like 4 years now
Not really dumbass.

This is Harden's 3rd year as being better, and even 2013 is debatable as Wade was great during the regular season. So arguably this is only his 2nd season as being better. 2012 Wade was a top 8 player and way better than Harden.

[greatest-ever]

Didn't peak Wade win like 43 games? :yaohappy:

Stats more empty than his knee.
Hard to do any better when all you have is a rookie chalmers, degenerate Beasley, and Washed up Jermaine Oneal who missed a ton of games. Dumbass.

[Genaro]

I count durability as a measure to define who's better so Harden deserves the nod.
Now, strictly talking about their games it's close. When Wade plays he shows a very efficient and polished offensive game, either is scoring or dishing but Harden is having the better season and winning a lot of games.

Playoffs will be huge to Harden this year, it will define if he's a regular season warrior or a true great player. Wade is already proven in post seasons.

[Milbuck]

Peak Wade wins the championship with this Rockets squad. Not trolling. It's literally a perfect team around Wade. He gets to control everything on offense, he's surrounded by shooters all around, great team defense, and with a healthy Dwight he's got a terrific 2nd option on offense and rim protector on defense. Everything that this Houston team needs Harden to do, Wade does better. The only thing Harden does better is shoot the 3, which isn't even that big a deal considering how good everyone else is from long distance on that team.

The fact that they're 9th in defense even with Harden being mediocre at best...insane. Wade takes them to top 5 on defense and top 7 on offense, again because he's just way better.

Beverley / Prigioni / JET
2009 Wade / Brewer / JET
Ariza / Papa / KJ
Jones / Smith
Dwight / D-Mo

Championship.

[G0ATbe]

He's not. Everyone will realize that when Wade makes the finals again this year and Harden gets curbstomped in the 1st round.

[WadeStan]

Peak Wade wins the championship with this Rockets squad. Not trolling. It's literally a perfect team around Wade. He gets to control everything on offense, he's surrounded by shooters all around, great team defense, and with a healthy Dwight he's got a terrific 2nd option on offense and rim protector on defense. Everything that this Houston team needs Harden to do, Wade does better. The only thing Harden does better is shoot the 3, which isn't even that big a deal considering how good everyone else is from long distance on that team.

The fact that they're 9th in defense even with Harden being mediocre at best...insane. Wade takes them to top 5 on defense and top 7 on offense, again because he's just way better.

Beverley / Prigioni / JET
2009 Wade / Brewer / JET
Ariza / Papa / KJ
Jones / Smith
Dwight / D-Mo

Championship.

Not only that but Wade has incredible chemistry with bigs, far superior than the still inconsistent way Harden and Howard work together on offense. We saw it most with Shaq (though granted he's not a mental midget like Howard), but I believe Wade in 06, 09, 10-12 form would wreck with Howard. Wade just has a better read of the game.

One of Spo's great failings in the big 3 area was not playing Wade at the PG more with Bosh in and Lebron on the bench. The pocket passes Wade pulled off with Bosh at times were epic.

[WadeStan]

Harden is better than Wade at this point, no shame in saying that.

[GrapeApe]

Current Harden > current Wade. No argument there. Their per minute production is relatively close but Wade's durability issues cannot be ignored. That said, if both are healthy and I have one game to win I'm taking Wade over Harden.

As for Peak Wade? Laughable that Harden is better. Peak Wade averaged 30/8/5 and was 3rd in DPOY voting. Not a great team record you say? Fine. 2006 Wade averaged 27/7/6, was 2nd team all defense, averaged 28/6/6 in the playoffs, and won a chamionship and FMVP. Peak Wade (whenever you consider that to be) is better than current Harden and likely better than any version of Harden we'll ever see.

[Smoke117]

Wade has arguably the greatest peak of an SG outside of Jordan

Harden isn't at that level.

As far as this season, Harden is better because of his health. You can depend on him to play a full 82 games.

We're talking about 27/7/6 vs. 22/3.7/5

Harden is clearly better

For the overall season, but who's better right now?

Wade in march: 33.0mpg 27.5ppg 5.3apg 3.6rpg 2.1spg 0.3bpg 3.1topg .516%fg .333%3pt .825%ft 17.7 shots to 8.2 ft's

Harden in march : 38.4mpg 27.9ppg 7.2apg 6.6rpg 1.9spg 0.4bpg 4.1topg .405fg% .308%3pt .851%ft 18.1 shots to 13.4 ft's :wtf: :roll:

[Wade's Rings]

Peak Wade wins the championship with this Rockets squad. Not trolling. It's literally a perfect team around Wade. He gets to control everything on offense, he's surrounded by shooters all around, great team defense, and with a healthy Dwight he's got a terrific 2nd option on offense and rim protector on defense. Everything that this Houston team needs Harden to do, Wade does better. The only thing Harden does better is shoot the 3, which isn't even that big a deal considering how good everyone else is from long distance on that team.

The fact that they're 9th in defense even with Harden being mediocre at best...insane. Wade takes them to top 5 on defense and top 7 on offense, again because he's just way better.

Beverley / Prigioni / JET
2009 Wade / Brewer / JET
Ariza / Papa / KJ
Jones / Smith
Dwight / D-Mo

Championship.

:applause:


Current Harden > current Wade. No argument there. Their per minute production is relatively close but Wade's durability issues cannot be ignored. That said, if both are healthy and I have one game to win I'm taking Wade over Harden.

As for Peak Wade? Laughable that Harden is better. Peak Wade averaged 30/8/5 and was 3rd in DPOY voting. Not a great team record you say? Fine. 2006 Wade averaged 27/7/6, was 2nd team all defense, averaged 28/6/6 in the playoffs, and won a chamionship and FMVP. Peak Wade (whenever you consider that to be) is better than current Harden and likely better than any version of Harden we'll ever see.

:bowdown:


He's not. Everyone will realize that when Wade makes the finals again this year and Harden gets curbstomped in the 1st round.

:applause:

[warriorfan]

Wade has done it on the big time.


Harden hasn't.

[J Shuttlesworth]

For the overall season, but who's better right now?

Wade in march: 33.0mpg 27.5ppg 5.3apg 3.6rpg 2.1spg 0.3bpg 3.1topg .516%fg .333%3pt .825%ft 17.7 shots to 8.2 ft's

Harden in march : 38.4mpg 27.9ppg 7.2apg 6.6rpg 1.9spg 0.4bpg 4.1topg .405fg% .308%3pt .851%ft 18.1 shots to 13.4 ft's :wtf: :roll:
Despite the efficiency, I'd still take Harden just purely on numbers since his APG/RPG are much higher.

Just by watching them, Harden has also been a better playmaker this year.

Then again, this could all falter in the playoffs if Harden shits the bed again

[Jameerthefear]

We all know who will be better come playoff time. That is all that matters.
uhh where were you when wade shit the bed in many playoff series?

[Papaya Petee]

Harden is currently better than Wade, because Wade is old and has injury problems. However with Hardens style of play at 33 years old he won't be as good as Wade is now.

Peak Wade? :roll: Harden isn't even close
2006, 2007(Pre Shoulder Injury), 2009, 2010, 2011 Wade > Harden this year.

2005 Wade (killed it in the playoffs) is about where Harden is now.

[Smoke117]

uhh where were you when wade shit the bed in many playoff series?

Shut up, child. Nobody has a great playoffs every single year. He's been successful in the playoffs though. 2006. Enough said.

[aj1987]

uhh where were you when wade shit the bed in many playoff series?
uhh where were you the Magic won a championship?

[Jameerthefear]

Whoever thinks Wade is better has autism.

[ArbitraryWater]

I'd probably take '05 Wade over current Harden tbh

no hate though

[dubeta]

The overrating of Wade here is hilarious :oldlol:

People are hyping him as some sort of superstar performer in his prime.


Here's the truth about Wade:

2007- Swept in the first round

2008- Miss the playoffs

2009- Lose in the 1st round

2010- Lose in the 1st round


This is 'prime Wade'

[aj1987]

The overrating of Wade here is hilarious :oldlol:

People are hyping him as some sort of superstar performer in his prime.


Here's the truth about Wade:

2007- Swept in the first round

2008- Miss the playoffs

2009- Lose in the 1st round

2010- Lose in the 1st round


This is 'prime Wade'
2005 - ECF

2006 - Championship

2011 - 1 EPIC LeBron choke away from a Championship

2012 - Championship

That's prime Wade, LeTurd stan.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Current Harden is better than current Wade. Peak Wade and it's a different story.

[ArbitraryWater]

The overrating of Wade here is hilarious :oldlol:

People are hyping him as some sort of superstar performer in his prime.


Here's the truth about Wade:

2007- Swept in the first round

2008- Miss the playoffs

2009- Lose in the 1st round

2010- Lose in the 1st round


This is 'prime Wade'

This is prime LeBron:

2011: Finals choke

Now **** off

[Jud]

This is prime LeBron:

2011: Finals choke

Now **** off
uhh aren't you a LeBron stan? :oldlol:

[Wade's Rings]

2005 - ECF

2006 - Championship

2011 - 1 EPIC LeBron choke away from a Championship

2012 - Championship

That's prime Wade, LeTurd stan.


This is prime LeBron:

2011: Finals choke

Now **** off

:eek: Double ETHER

[Smoke117]

uhh aren't you a LeBron stan? :oldlol:

It's so obnoxious how anyone who defends Lebron is called a stan. I've been called a Lebron stan so many times its ridiculous. AW is not a Lebron stan.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

He's not. Could be way off on this, but I get the feeling Wade's play this postseason will show glimpses of 2006-2010ish, wreaking havoc on anyone who enters his crosshairs. Dude claims he is feeling the best in years, which usually means a nice postseason outing (the real difference between the two).

[ArbitraryWater]

He's not. Could be way off on this, but I get the feeling Wade's play this postseason will show glimpses of 2006-2010ish, wreaking havoc on anyone who enters his crosshairs. Dude claims he is feeling the best in years, which usually means a nice postseason outing (the real difference between the two).

This.. any time he was healthy, he's delivered.. well, in '09 he was pretty burned out, understandably so. So when you mention him among the GOAT playoff/finals performers, its mainly deserved since when his body allowed him to dominate, he came through.

[greatest-ever]

:rant
The overrating of Wade here is hilarious :oldlol:

People are hyping him as some sort of superstar performer in his prime.


Here's the truth about Wade:

2007- Swept in the first round

2008- Miss the playoffs

2009- Lose in the 1st round

2010- Lose in the 1st round


This is 'prime Wade'Wade was hurt most of the season in both 07 & 08. The other 2 years his team wasn't even favored and one was against the Celtics who nearly won the chip. He put up 33 6 7 on 55 fg% against them.

[RightToCensor]

I'm willing to bet money Harden will have a better playoffs than Wade.

[RoseCity07]

I rather have Wade on my team seriously. He's so clutch and even with bad knees he plays better defense.

[Sportal]

Didn't peak Wade win like 43 games? :yaohappy:

Stats more empty than his knee.

Wade has more titles than the Rockets...

Harden is playing better than Wade this season, there is no denying.

However, Harden's stats are inflated due to it being regular season, how many FTs did he get the other night? 25? Jesus..

[RightToCensor]

How do you inflate scoring when your team is winning? That make no sense. That's like penalizing a player for taking too many shots at a single spot of the floor because he's mastered it.

We don't penalize Curry and Durant for taking 30 footers, so why should be penalize Harden for shooting Free Throws? The idea of James "exploiting the system" is asinine.