James Harden is absolutely awful when he doesn't get to the FT line

[Joyner82reload]

Harden's scoring/efficiency when attempting 7+ FT/G(42 games)
31.5 ppg 65.4 TS%
Harden's scoring/efficiency when attempting <7 FT/g(26 games)
20.4 ppg 49.5 TS%

:biggums:

[Smoke117]

New Idea, New Topic. Pat yourself on the back.

[dubeta]

The Kevin Durant of SGs

[warriorfan]

Harden's scoring/efficiency when attempting 7+ FT/G(42 games)
31.5 ppg 65.4 TS%
Harden's scoring/efficiency when attempting <7 FT/g(26 games)
20.4 ppg 49.5 TS%

:biggums:


:oldlol:

Dude is trash. Imagine Harden in the pre handcheck-ban era...wouldn't even crack the starting rotation.

[KembaWalker]

Can you work out stats for some other players averaging high free throw attempts, I wanna see how it compares

Such as WB/Bron

[Smoke117]

No really...pat yourself on the back. When you finish? Go **** your mother...and take Harden with you.

[Milbuck]

No really...pat yourself on the back. When you finish? Go **** your mother...and take Harden with you.
Do you do anything aside from bitch constantly? Serious question. I have never seen you not pissed off about something. Does someone shit in your breakfast every morning?

[warriorfan]

No really...pat yourself on the back. When you finish? Go **** your mother...and take Harden with you.

sleep it off bro, go home

[Milbuck]

Do you post anything but Harden nonsense. Love to hear a virgin telling me to make better use of my time. I've felt felt enough c*nts to know what life is about. Maybe when you pierce your first you might join us grown ups? Keep posting, keep being you, keep losing. I look forward to our next engagement. How could I not? When you bury someone in their own shit over and over how can you not walk away with a grin.

In the end...you should really keep to these idiots on this board. If you are game though I am always here.
Didn't read. Why are you always so mad doe?

[JohnFreeman]

Do you do anything aside from bitch constantly? Serious question. I have never seen you not pissed off about something. Does someone shit in your breakfast every morning?
You think he can afford breakfast?

[Milbuck]

You think he can afford breakfast?
Does booze count as breakfast? :oldlol:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Biggest concern for me with Harden's MVP case is the fact that the Rockets are 17-19 against .500 and above teamshttp://i.imgur.com/lkDPg6y.png

http://i.imgur.com/mFaCshE.png

[Smoke117]

Didn't read. Why are you always so mad doe?

LOL...you are such a ****ing child with no concept of life. You are seriously not even worth the time I wipe my ass with. You who live on ISH, telling me, your elder, about life? What the **** do you know about life, boy? lol. Putting aside basketball...what do you ****ing know about anything? These ****ing children with their ****ing cnut mouthes are a joke.

Little boys with big egos. Ugh. Children.

A little boy with a big ego he has no claim to. That's you Milbuck.

[dannysc305]

:oldlol:

Dude is trash. Imagine Harden in the pre handcheck-ban era...wouldn't even crack the starting rotation.

What's a handcheck?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Do you do anything aside from bitch constantly? Serious question. I have never seen you not pissed off about something. Does someone shit in your breakfast every morning?
:oldlol:

[John Tesh]

Aka the playoffs.

[kenny817]

Manufactured superstar

Snapping back his head on every drive...baiting officials

That's not basketball man

[AussieG]

The Kevin Durant of SGs
It's funny the idea of Harden, Durant and Westbrook all on the same team at one point. They all play the same way, in terms of.. if their jumper isn't falling, and they aren't getting calls.. they are pretty much useless.

But when they get the calls, they are deadly and near impossible to stop. Three of them on the same team at one point. :eek:

[Milbuck]

LOL...you are such a ****ing child with no concept of life. You are seriously not even worth the time I wipe my ass with. You who live on ISH, telling me, your elder, about life? What the **** do you know about life, boy? lol. Putting aside basketball...what do you ****ing know about anything? These ****ing children with their ****ing cnut mouthes are a joke.

Little boys with big egos. Ugh. Children.

A little boy with a big ego he has no claim to. That's you Milbuck.
Didn't read :oldlol:

[Smoke117]

Didn't read :oldlol:

Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. I've drank enough to not care either way. Have you? I dunno a lot of people who respond to something "they didn't read" and not cared about. Keep being the child you are. Keep enjoying my hospitality.

[JohnFreeman]

Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. I've drank enough to not care either way. Have you? I dunno a lot of people who respond to something "they didn't read" and not cared about. Keep being the child you are. Keep enjoying my hospitality.
Sort your life out, and stop disappointing everyone around you.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Sort your life out, and stop disappointing everyone around you.
:oldlol:

[dubeta]

It's funny the idea of Harden, Durant and Westbrook all on the same team at one point. They all play the same way, in terms of.. if their jumper isn't falling, and they aren't getting calls.. they are pretty much useless.

But when they get the calls, they are deadly and near impossible to stop. Three of them on the same team at one point. :eek:

Solid insight, good point.
I think its a generational thing. They also tend to play well in the regular season but get locked up in the playoffs where there is less calls and more physical defense.

[Smoke117]

Too many people care way too much about my alcoholism. And I thought I was hanging on by a string to sanity. who knew so much was built on my constitution. (I'm horrified by the revelation that so many people could be so ****ing stupid)

[SamuraiSWISH]

I just don't get logging onto a message board about basketball and being down right furious about EVERYTHING.

[ImKobe]

Westbrook MVP.

[warriorfan]

Too many people care way too much about my alcoholism. And I thought I was hanging on by a string to sanity. who knew so much was built on my constitution. (I'm horrified by the revelation that so many people could be so ****ing stupid)

LOL

:rockon:

[Milbuck]

LOL...you are such a ****ing child with no concept of life. You are seriously not even worth the time I wipe my ass with. You who live on ISH, telling me, your elder, about life? What the **** do you know about life, boy? lol. Putting aside basketball...what do you ****ing know about anything? These ****ing children with their ****ing cnut mouthes are a joke.

Little boys with big egos. Ugh. Children.

A little boy with a big ego he has no claim to. That's you Milbuck.

Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. I've drank enough to not care either way. Have you? I dunno a lot of people who respond to something "they didn't read" and not cared about. Keep being the child you are. Keep enjoying my hospitality.
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-25374-Michael-Jordan-YEAH-gif-wyUJ.gif

[JohnFreeman]

I just don't get logging onto a message board about basketball and being down right furious about EVERYTHING.
I know what you mean coach

[SamuraiSWISH]

I know what you mean coach
Thanks for the proper respect, son

[You Cant Ban Me]

LOL...you are such a ****ing child with no concept of life. You are seriously not even worth the time I wipe my ass with. You who live on ISH, telling me, your elder, about life? What the **** do you know about life, boy? lol. Putting aside basketball...what do you ****ing know about anything? These ****ing children with their ****ing cnut mouthes are a joke.

Little boys with big egos. Ugh. Children.

A little boy with a big ego he has no claim to. That's you Milbuck.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2ur9l5v.gif

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2008/06/24/0623_shaq4_tmz_video-1.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c351/fullrut/IMG_4102.jpg

[brantonli]

Biggest concern for me with Harden's MVP case is the fact that the Rockets are 17-19 against .500 and above teamshttp://i.imgur.com/lkDPg6y.png

http://i.imgur.com/mFaCshE.png

Uh, only 3 teams out of the 8 Western playoffs teams have above .500 record against .500 teams. So it's not exactly unusual, since they probably spend a lot of that time beating each other up (West vs west opponents, same division, esp for SA, Dallas and Hou).

[iamgine]

Interesting topic but don't pick 7 FT/G as the standard. Pick the player's average.

Harden average 9.9 FT/G

When Harden shot 9 FT or lower: 22 PPG 53 TS% (36 games)
When Harden shot 10 FT or higher: 33 PPG 67 TS% (32 games)

This might be the highest efficiency difference in history by far. :wtf:

But, to Harden's defense 22 PPG on 53 TS% is still quite a good number. He just becomes godly when he gets his FT (which is often).

[hahaitme]

Joyner is a terrible poster and a KD stan, but on this I have to agree with him.
That bearded scum's entire game relies on FT's, and he'll be exposed come playoffs.

You can drop whatever crappy stats you want but I'll just bump your post in June when he gets wiped out of the first or second round.

[Achilleas]

fts
curry 67 games 4.0 4.4 .912 270 296 23.3 points per game
harden 68 games 8.6 9.9 .865 585 676 26.9 points per game
westbrook 54games 8.3 9.8 .845 447 529 27.8 points per game
lebron 60games 5.6 7.9 .715 338 473 25.9 points per game
davis 55 games 5.5 6.6 .829 300 362 24.6 points per game

%points coming from fts

curry 17,16%
harden 31,97%
westbrook 29,85%
lebron 21,62%
davis 22.35%

[Grey Dawn]

:oldlol:

Dude is trash. Imagine Harden in the pre handcheck-ban era...wouldn't even crack the starting rotation.

Agreed. The only thing that makes Harden any good is flopping around like a fish out of water, flinging himself into everyone and getting foul calls.

[SpecialQue]

Sort your life out, and stop disappointing everyone around you.

:roll:

[S13M]

Interesting topic but don't pick 7 FT/G as the standard. Pick the player's average.

Harden average 9.9 FT/G

When Harden shot 9 FT or lower: 22 PPG 53 TS% (36 games)
When Harden shot 10 FT or higher: 33 PPG 67 TS% (32 games)

This might be the highest efficiency difference in history by far. :wtf:

But, to Harden's defense 22 PPG on 53 TS% is still quite a good number. He just becomes godly when he gets his FT (which is often).

Durant last year
Average FTA 9.9

9 or less FTA: 29.4 PTS on 67.0 TS% (41 games)
10 or more FTA: 34.7 PTS on 60.7 TS% (40 games)

Funny how Durant is more efficient when he shoots less free throws.

[StephHamann]

Bump

[aj1987]

Can you work out stats for some other players averaging high free throw attempts, I wanna see how it compares

Such as WB/Bron
Over the last 3 seasons, LeBron has averaged 27 PPG on 7.5 FT's/G @ 63% TS.

Harden is literally a manufactured "superstar". Can't wait to see the sack of shit fail in the Playoffs AGAIN. I hope they play the Spurs and Kawhi exposes the fat bastard.

[konex]

This guy winning MVP would set basketball back a decade. He is horrible to watch

[RightToCensor]

This guy winning MVP would set basketball back a decade. He is horrible to watch
Thank you!

[navy]

This guy winning MVP would set basketball back a decade. He is horrible to watch
What have you done? :biggums:

[spiegel]

Salty fukas. dude had 44 on 10- of 21. that's damn efficient. if you takeout his free throws that is still damn efficient.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

This guy winning MVP would set basketball back a decade. He is horrible to watch

MVP race over. Harden will go on to be GOAT.

[StephHamann]

This guy winning MVP would set basketball back a decade. He is horrible to watch

:bowdown:

[AussieG]

Salty fukas. dude had 44 on 10- of 21. that's damn efficient. if you takeout his free throws that is still damn efficient.
10 of 21 isn't damn efficient or even efficient at all.. it's average for a top player who has a good game..

13 of 21 is efficient. 15 of 21 is great. 18 of 21 is god like.

And if you quote season FG%'s and averages and say that anything above season or league averages is effecient, then I can't be bothered explaining.

It involves basketball knowledge and not just nerding out on statistics.

[You Cant Ban Me]

This guy winning MVP would set basketball back a decade. He is horrible to watch
the next decade of basketball is going to advance the sport higher than any era before it....thank you

[spiegel]

10 of 21 isn't damn efficient or even efficient at all.. it's average for a top player who has a good game..

13 of 21 is efficient. 15 of 21 is great. 18 of 21 is god like.

And if you quote season FG%'s and averages and say that anything above season or league averages is effecient, then I can't be bothered explaining.

It involves basketball knowledge and not just nerding out on statistics.
You clearly did not watch the game Moron. He was 4-11 at one stage and 1-6 at the 3 point line and went beserk in the last quarter. He scored 14 of his 44 in the last 4 minutes and had 22 in the last quarter. Moron, if you watched him tonight, he was getting doubled almost everytime he touched the ball in the second half and even on the inbound passes he was doubled off the ball.

To put in that context and the way he carried the rockets in the last by himself and the amount defensive traps that was being thrown at him, he was great. btw, he had like 6 free throw attempts in the last. Most of those were in the last few seconds when the Pacers were in desperation mode.

[Keno]

Manufactured superstar

Snapping back his head on every drive...baiting officials

That's not basketball man

this. mvp should be between lbj and wb.

[Kingwillball]

Every Time this Dude has a big scoring game he has 20+ FT's..Not a fan of this flopper. A player like Lebron gets 20+ Ft's maybe once a season while Harden has had 10 times that amount.

[MiseryCityTexas]

One star thread

[scandisk_]

FT king harden :bowdown: