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StephHamann
03-23-2015, 08:44 PM
Turns a free flowing offense into a clogged toilet shithole

:applause:

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/98/files/2014/12/rajon-rondo-michael-carter-williams-nba-boston-celtics-philadelphia-76ers1-590x900.jpg

navy
03-23-2015, 08:49 PM
Anyone got the stats for the bucks pre and post mcw?

Eric Cartman
03-23-2015, 08:50 PM
Milbuck will not be happy with this.

Lebron23
03-23-2015, 08:52 PM
Michael Cancer Williams
Michael Chucker Williams

JGXEN
03-23-2015, 09:02 PM
So you're telling me that MCW will turn into a monster come playoff time like Rondo has for the past few seasons from 2010 onwards?

Milbuck
03-23-2015, 09:17 PM
Yeah, because our starting lineup with Knight was basically Spurs-like before the trade, and Knight was Nash 2.0.

Pre all star

Starters : Milwaukee 24th Deff: -7.4 http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/15/6/diffeff/17-1

Bench : Milwaukee 1st Deff: +16.3 http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/15/7/diffeff/17-1

Post all star

Starters : Milwaukee 12th Deff: +2.1http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/15/6/diffeff/18-1

Bench : Milwaukee 27th Deff: -9.9http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/15/7/diffeff/18-1

Deff = net offensive production/efficiency



Fun on/off chart for Knight:

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/Badgerlander/OnPre_zpsqxtglfer.png
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/Badgerlander/PreOff_zpsd5q2snid.png

For MCW:

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/Badgerlander/PostOn_zps9qqdpvw8.png
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/Badgerlander/PostOff_zpsoxtirt9h.png

FreezingTsmoove
03-23-2015, 09:36 PM
Yeah, because our starting lineup with Knight was basically Spurs-like before the trade, and Knight was Nash 2.0.

Pre all star

Starters : Milwaukee 24th Deff: -7.4 http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/15/6/diffeff/17-1

Bench : Milwaukee 1st Deff: +16.3 http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/15/7/diffeff/17-1

Post all star

Starters : Milwaukee 12th Deff: +2.1http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/15/6/diffeff/18-1

Bench : Milwaukee 27th Deff: -9.9http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/15/7/diffeff/18-1

Deff = net offensive production/efficiency



Fun on/off chart for Knight:

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/Badgerlander/OnPre_zpsqxtglfer.png
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/Badgerlander/PreOff_zpsd5q2snid.png

For MCW:

http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/Badgerlander/PostOn_zps9qqdpvw8.png
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac180/Badgerlander/PostOff_zpsoxtirt9h.png


Can you stop posting this shit . Anyone with half a brain will agree that a knight a borderline all star had a postitive impact on the team. Plus its just not on the court stuff how do yoy tjink the bucks teammates and coaching staff felt inowing they lost arguably their best player for a 76er? You cant measure shit like that but you know what you can accurately measure? Knight as starting PG and Mcw as starting Pg.

You bring up the bench not getting involved ummm its the PGS JOB TO GET THEM INVOLVED

Milbuck
03-23-2015, 09:49 PM
Can you stop posting this shit . Anyone with half a brain will agree that a knight a borderline all star had a postitive impact on the team. Plus its just not on the court stuff how do yoy tjink the bucks teammates and coaching staff felt inowing they lost arguably their best player for a 76er? You cant measure shit like that but you know what you can accurately measure? Knight as starting PG and Mcw as starting Pg.

You bring up the bench not getting involved ummm its the PGS JOB TO GET THEM INVOLVED
No, I will continue to post this shit because of threads like this and people like you who are totally clueless about the situation but for whatever reason think you can sum up our entire season by mere record, and what you see in the media. Sorry to break it to you but Knight wasn't the budding franchise player you thought he was, he is a rich man's Jerryd Bayless and literally nothing more. Any Bucks fan who has seen most of the games and has an understanding of the game beyond "OMG HE DID A FANCY DRIBBLE MOVE AND HIT A JUMPER" could see that Knight was an over dribbling, terrible court vision, bad defense, ball-dominant pseudo-PG on this team. He made literally no one around him better, period. His shooting was a positive on this team but aside from that he was no more impactful than our 10th and 11th guys. So people need to stop with the bullshit that he was carrying this team and we suck now because he's not here, because it's again a clueless argument.

And what are you talking about with the bench stuff? Knight is a starter you retard. And so is MCW. They're not running the 2nd units. The point of that was to show how destroyed our bench lineup is with injuries, exhaustion, etc...and how that's the biggest reason for us losing games. Our bench would routinely come in and light teams up without the starters, and now they routinely get their asses kicked and put us in huge holes that the starters have to get us out of.

RRR3
03-23-2015, 09:58 PM
No, I will continue to post this shit because of threads like this and people like you who are totally clueless about the situation but for whatever reason think you can sum up our entire season by mere record, and what you see in the media. Sorry to break it to you but Knight wasn't the budding franchise player you thought he was, he is a rich man's Jerryd Bayless and literally nothing more. Any Bucks fan who has seen most of the games and has an understanding of the game beyond "OMG HE DID A FANCY DRIBBLE MOVE AND HIT A JUMPER" could see that Knight was an over dribbling, terrible court vision, bad defense, ball-dominant pseudo-PG on this team. He made literally no one around him better, period. His shooting was a positive on this team but aside from that he was no more impactful than our 10th and 11th guys. So people need to stop with the bullshit that he was carrying this team and we suck now because he's not here, because it's again a clueless argument.

And what are you talking about with the bench stuff? Knight is a starter you retard. And so is MCW. They're not running the 2nd units. The point of that was to show how destroyed our bench lineup is with injuries, exhaustion, etc...and how that's the biggest reason for us losing games.
Knight was the best Bucks PG since Oscar. Give him some .

FreezingTsmoove
03-23-2015, 09:58 PM
No, I will continue to post this shit because of threads like this and people like you who are totally clueless about the situation but for whatever reason think you can sum up our entire season by mere record, and what you see in the media. Sorry to break it to you but Knight wasn't the budding franchise player you thought he was, he is a rich man's Jerryd Bayless and literally nothing more. Any Bucks fan who has seen most of the games and has an understanding of the game beyond "OMG HE DID A FANCY DRIBBLE MOVE AND HIT A JUMPER" could see that Knight was an over dribbling, terrible court vision, bad defense, ball-dominant pseudo-PG on this team. He made literally no one around him better, period. His shooting was a positive on this team but aside from that he was no more impactful than our 10th and 11th guys. So people need to stop with the bullshit that he was carrying this team and we suck now because he's not here, because it's again a clueless argument.

And what are you talking about with the bench stuff? Knight is a starter you retard. And so is MCW. They're not running the 2nd units. The point of that was to show how destroyed our bench lineup is with injuries, exhaustion, etc...and how that's the biggest reason for us losing games. Our bench would routinely come in and light teams up without the starters, and now they routinely get their asses kicked and put us in huge holes that the starters have to get us out of.

You fcking retard Bucks are one of my 5 league pass teams since Im a Jabari mark. Yes knight had bad moments but at the end of the day he runs a better offense than mcw and he can get bench players more involved when he plays with guys off the bench

Milbuck
03-23-2015, 10:04 PM
You fcking retard Bucks are one of my 5 league pass teams since Im a Jabari mark. Yes knight had bad moments but at the end of the day he runs a better offense than mcw and he can get bench players more involved when he plays with guys off the bench
Then I'm guessing you haven't watched since Jabari went down, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. The only offense Knight "runs" is dribbling around for 15-20 seconds, and either taking a dumb long jumper, or getting trapped and making a terrible pass to a teammate for a terrible jumper. And for a team filled with long, athletic transition players, Knight was arguably the worst transition PG in NBA history.

The numbers are all in front of you. The starters were bad with Knight, solid with MCW. The bench was elite before the trade, garbage now. If you can't grasp that I don't know what else to tell you.

Also, what brilliant offense is Knight running in Phoenix by the way? Just curious.

RightToCensor
03-23-2015, 10:27 PM
Bucks may be the worst team to ever make the Playoffs. They are already unwatchable, but now they've turned back to their usual Milwaukee self and started to lose again.

First Round Fodder. Sweep.

knicksman
03-23-2015, 10:43 PM
Rondo? More like bran/robertson. Statpadders who cares more about triple doubles than wins.