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NBAplayoffs2001
03-24-2015, 09:56 PM
I think he would.

KungFuJoe
03-24-2015, 10:11 PM
Glyde?

This fool probably wasn't even born when Clyde the GLIDE was playing. :facepalm

ClipperRevival
03-24-2015, 11:45 PM
From about 1988 through 1992, Drexler was viewed as the one guy who might be on par with MJ. Of course he wasn't but the perception was that he was the next best thing. Mj settled everything in the 1992 Finals of course. That series was all about Jordan vs Drexler.

Drexler definitely had the athleticism and skills to thrive today. At his peak, he was averaging 27+ ppg. He was "the man" that led his team to two Finals appearances but had the misfortune of facing two of the better teams ever assembled in the 1990 Pistons and 1992 Bulls.

DonDadda59
03-24-2015, 11:52 PM
6'7", lanky, very skilled, with THIS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2gfVpcMRWs) kind of athleticism?

Clearly, James Harden and Klay Thompson would be better.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DFj1rZnDzK0/UBMLu5xnrKI/AAAAAAAAE-c/jIpVDVyH4vk/s1600/themaster.jpg

Im Still Ballin
03-24-2015, 11:53 PM
Harden >

King Jane
03-24-2015, 11:56 PM
not sure he would do nothin but get bounced around as a sixth man in todays era he had no jay all he did was dunk

modern zone era would take his dunk away

game is too sophisticated now his skills too raw hed need to improve a lot to play modern game im not sure he could adapt with all the talent in the league now

ClipperRevival
03-24-2015, 11:59 PM
6'7", lanky, very skilled, with THIS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2gfVpcMRWs) kind of athleticism?

Clearly, James Harden and Klay Thompson would be better.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DFj1rZnDzK0/UBMLu5xnrKI/AAAAAAAAE-c/jIpVDVyH4vk/s1600/themaster.jpg

I really used to like this guy. His nickname "Glide" perfectly described him cause he would have dunks where he would look like he was literally gliding. The guy was so smooth. Reminded me of Wade. Not in their game cause I rank Wade higher but how smooth they were on the court.

ClipperRevival
03-25-2015, 12:00 AM
not sure he would do nothin but get bounced around as a sixth man in todays era he had no jay all he did was dunk

modern zone era would take his dunk away

game is too sophisticated now his skills too raw hed need to improve a lot to play modern game im not sure he could adapt with all the talent in the league now

:facepalm

dubeta
03-25-2015, 12:14 AM
Plays EXTREMELY similar to DeMar Derozan tbh. Not sure he would be much better.

RoundMoundOfReb
03-25-2015, 12:15 AM
Harden is better.

ClipperRevival
03-25-2015, 12:17 AM
Plays EXTREMELY similar to DeMar Derozan tbh. Not sure he would be much better.

Lol. Did Derozan avg 27+ ppg at his peak? Did Derozan lead his team to two finals appearances? Did Derozan have Drexler's all around game? Did Derozan make multiple All Star appearances? Was Derozan ever the 2nd best 2 guard in the game for nearly a decade?

RightTwoCensor
03-25-2015, 12:23 AM
James Harden scores and passes better than Drexler, as well as embody today's era of threes and layups.

Swaggin916
03-25-2015, 12:28 AM
Clyde had no left hand. I mean he would still be good but the holes in his game would prevent him from being as good as the players now.

King Jane
03-25-2015, 02:31 AM
Clyde had no left hand. I mean he would still be good but the holes in his game would prevent him from being as good as the players now.
:applause:

exposed

clyde was only good in the gimmicky 80s an 90s vs matador defenses

lacked a jay and lacked basic skills like left hand even rookies today have left hands an would expose his crude skills

bizil
03-25-2015, 03:49 AM
I would go with Clyde as the 2nd best SG after Harden. I prefer Harden's scoring skillset over Drexler's. But Clyde was just as good of a passer and a better rebounder. And even a better defender. But at the end of the day, I gotta roll with Harden. Even though Clyde could score just as much, Harden's scoring skillset makes the difference.

pauk
03-25-2015, 04:03 AM
Yes.

Lebron23
03-25-2015, 04:14 AM
Yes

He was not only a good in game dunker, but a great all around player.

Collie
03-25-2015, 05:07 AM
Clyde greatest flaw was that he was TOO unselfish. If you gave him a cutthroat mentality, he'd be a 6'7 Russell Westbrook. That said, he'd still be brutally effective today. I'd say prime Clyde (87-92, he was a 25-7-6, 56% TS player -- basically current Lebron) would be the best SG right now. Not as efficient as Harden, but a lot better defender and rebounder.

iamgine
03-25-2015, 05:14 AM
He won't be without a three point shot. I'd say equal or just behind James Harden.

SHAQisGOAT
03-25-2015, 06:23 AM
Trolls coming out of the woodwork, or just very ignorant people :facepalm :rolleyes:

Ofc prime Clyde would've been the best SG right now, top3 player too.

HALLandOATES
03-25-2015, 07:11 AM
How many of you have seen even a half a game of drex play?? Probably none, you guys are looking at stats and because hardens look slighty better hes better??

Clyde was equal offensivly,better slasher but not as good at long range.he was a good defender,not just average like harden is at best. passing ? Harden isnt john stockton ,hes getting 7 a game ane he better with he usage

Tell me when james leads his team to a finals or is compared to mj at his peak. james ppg is making him so overrated because kids are just basing his play on that,and his 7 ast.James just isnt a superstar yet,close..but hes just not.

Dragic4Life
03-25-2015, 07:25 AM
No SG from the 80/90s would dominate in today's league. None.

Trollsmasher
03-25-2015, 08:36 AM
Drexler's peak scoring was 27 ppg on mediocre 56% TS in defensively extremely weak 88-89, so he would be a 2nd option today and ergo a 2nd tier player. Top 5 SG though

Kingwillball
03-25-2015, 11:03 AM
Plays EXTREMELY similar to DeMar Derozan tbh. Not sure he would be much better.

Shows your age and lack of bball knowledge here..

Kingwillball
03-25-2015, 11:05 AM
Clyde greatest flaw was that he was TOO unselfish. If you gave him a cutthroat mentality, he'd be a 6'7 Russell Westbrook. That said, he'd still be brutally effective today. I'd say prime Clyde (87-92, he was a 25-7-6, 56% TS player -- basically current Lebron) would be the best SG right now. Not as efficient as Harden, but a lot better defender and rebounder.

Good post and when he was later in career developed a very solid jumper.

Kingwillball
03-25-2015, 11:08 AM
Trolls coming out of the woodwork, or just very ignorant people :facepalm :rolleyes:

Ofc prime Clyde would've been the best SG right now, top3 player too.


He used to be my favorite player and that Blazers team was my bandwagon team. I remember when Blazers played Bulls in finals there were some people arguing it was battle to see who was best SG in game with Jordan so shows how good he was considering status MJ went too..

swagga
03-25-2015, 11:15 AM
I would go with Clyde as the 2nd best SG after Harden. I prefer Harden's scoring skillset over Drexler's. But Clyde was just as good of a passer and a better rebounder. And even a better defender. But at the end of the day, I gotta roll with Harden. Even though Clyde could score just as much, Harden's scoring skillset makes the difference.

really? even??!?

drexler would mop the floor with harden, seen that dude live, he is SO underrated because he lived in jordan's league..... similar situation with kd vs bron, if kd doesn't win a ring or some more accolades people won't remember him for the true monster he is.

Sarcastic
03-25-2015, 11:15 AM
He'd have to do some evolution first, just to have a chance, but even then I don't know if he could overcome the lane shading and zone concepts.

swagga
03-25-2015, 11:20 AM
Trolls coming out of the woodwork, or just very ignorant people :facepalm :rolleyes:

Ofc prime Clyde would've been the best SG right now, top3 player too.

agree on the best SG, but only for the playoffs.
in the regular season harden is perfect because his style of play is tolerated for the time being. If the NBA were to cut down on the rip-through, jump-into-the-defender, initiate-contact-without-looking-to-score moves that are impossible to defend against, harden's ppg would drop by 7-8 points at the very least. LOL best player in the NBA....... but in the playoffs the whistles will be more conservative, and harden will come down to earth.

don't agree on top 3 player for clyde. Lebron, KD, anthony davis are just superior players, with more impact.

greatest-ever
03-25-2015, 11:56 AM
He would be right up there with Harden, i'll give Harden a slight edge unless he disappeares in the playoffs.

MiseryCityTexas
03-25-2015, 11:59 AM
Yes easily. Wade would be his only competition. Drexler was better than Harden.

j3lademaster
03-25-2015, 01:05 PM
Have to factor in that with the Glide in the league there would be no need to artificially manufacture a star at the sg position. Glide >>> Harden without the ref love. Drexler would be the best sg in the league.

Dro
03-25-2015, 01:06 PM
not sure he would do nothin but get bounced around as a sixth man in todays era he had no jay all he did was dunk

modern zone era would take his dunk away

game is too sophisticated now his skills too raw hed need to improve a lot to play modern game im not sure he could adapt with all the talent in the league now
Children:facepalm

Dro
03-25-2015, 01:13 PM
Lol. Did Derozan avg 27+ ppg at his peak? Did Derozan lead his team to two finals appearances? Did Derozan have Drexler's all around game? Did Derozan make multiple All Star appearances? Was Derozan ever the 2nd best 2 guard in the game for nearly a decade?
Don't feed the trolls bro...

Dro
03-25-2015, 01:14 PM
Clyde had no left hand. I mean he would still be good but the holes in his game would prevent him from being as good as the players now.
Well Harden/Ginobili have no right hand.....:confusedshrug: There's many players who go one way 90% of the time, even Lebron goes right most of the time...It just depends on how effective they are at it...

King Jane
03-25-2015, 01:38 PM
No SG from the 80/90s would dominate in today's league. None.
amen brotha :applause:

these old heads an their nostalgia make me sick

Siemens
03-25-2015, 02:34 PM
At one point, believe it or not, there were debates about Clyde vs Jordan.

Micku
03-25-2015, 02:55 PM
I would go with Clyde as the 2nd best SG after Harden. I prefer Harden's scoring skillset over Drexler's. But Clyde was just as good of a passer and a better rebounder. And even a better defender. But at the end of the day, I gotta roll with Harden. Even though Clyde could score just as much, Harden's scoring skillset makes the difference.

Even in the playoffs?

Anyway, I think James Harden is a better scorer than Drexler. Drexler might be better at everything else tho as you kind'a indicate.

Dro
03-25-2015, 03:27 PM
So what I gathered from this thread is that mostly the children think he'll suck and the adults aka people who actually saw him play say he'd be pretty good....I'm willing to say that Harden is probably a better overall player than him but other than Harden? Nobody...

bizil
03-25-2015, 03:50 PM
really? even??!?

drexler would mop the floor with harden, seen that dude live, he is SO underrated because he lived in jordan's league..... similar situation with kd vs bron, if kd doesn't win a ring or some more accolades people won't remember him for the true monster he is.

What are u trippin on? I SAID Drexler was a better rebounder and defender than Harden. Scoring and passing is a tie. But I prefer Harden slightly over Clyde because of his scoring skillset. Plus Harden is still only 25 years old and evolving as a player. I just think Harden wreaks more havoc on a defense than Drexler did. Personally, I don't underrate Clyde at all. Peak wise and GOAT wise, he's a top five caliber SG of all time.

But I think many people do underrate Clyde and DON'T realize how great he was. Clyde and Jordan were VIRTUALLY revolutionizing the SG position at the same time. Before them, u didn't see freak athletes 6'6 and 6'7 at the SG with their kind of skillset. MJ just had the defense and fundamentals to take it to the ultimate level. But Clyde still was a MAJOR FACTOR in redefining the SG position.

bdreason
03-25-2015, 04:00 PM
Yes.

SamuraiSWISH
03-25-2015, 08:09 PM
Yes. Harden's free throw, layup, three ball game falls off a cliff production wise in the post season.

ClipperRevival
04-20-2016, 01:09 AM
:hammertime:

riseagainst
04-20-2016, 01:10 AM
Harden >


:lol
:roll:

L.Kizzle
04-20-2016, 01:13 AM
Lol at everyone saying Harden would be better. :biggums:

ClipperRevival
04-20-2016, 01:15 AM
I'm pretty sure that right now, the Rockets would rather have peak Drexler over no D Harden.

L.Kizzle
04-20-2016, 01:17 AM
I'm pretty sure that right now, the Rockets would rather have peak Drexler over no D Harden.
Hell, they might take current announcer version Drexler over Harden.

oh the horror
04-20-2016, 01:18 AM
Anyone saying Harden is better would have been laughed out of the building among my friends and I.

Round Mound
04-20-2016, 01:20 AM
yes

ClipperRevival
04-20-2016, 01:24 AM
I've never seen a more gutless star than Harden. He just looks like he doesn't care. And this fact is exposed on the D end. He really has no shame in not even trying. It's almost comical how he doesn't give a sh-t about D. Standing flat footed, knees erect, unaware of the ball and lazily reaching.

Do you not have any pride?

Dragonyeuw
04-20-2016, 01:28 AM
Yes he would.

G-train
04-20-2016, 02:11 AM
I think he would.

Probably. Was one of the best players in the NBA during his time.

Kingwillball
04-20-2016, 07:51 AM
Drexler > Harden end of story ..

I know you are
04-20-2016, 08:52 AM
Yes.

Klay 3D
04-20-2016, 10:26 AM
That nikka old as fck. No

stalkerforlife
04-20-2016, 10:32 AM
That nikka old as fck. No

:roll:

bizil
04-20-2016, 04:12 PM
I think I would give Clyde the edge on Harden. Clyde is a MUCH BETTER DEFENDER than Harden. While Clyde was never great on defense, but he could be very good. The Glide was also a true alpha dog and a great passing and rebounding guard. Glide was redefining the SG position VIRTUALLY AT THE SAME TIME as MJ. Harden is a beast and the better shooter but Clyde is a more complete player across the board. Peak wise, the only SG's FOR SURE I would take over Drexler are MJ, Kobe, and West.

Smoke117
04-20-2016, 04:47 PM
Probably...but that's not exactly saying much...the SG position is by far the weakest position in the league right now.

Tarik One
04-20-2016, 06:19 PM
I'm pretty sure that right now, the Rockets would rather have peak Drexler over no D Harden.
I think having no left hand ball skills speak volumes in today's league. The league is filled with exceptional multidimensional dribbles who can't afford to be limited to going one direction.

Clyde may have some problems.

GrapeApe
04-20-2016, 07:05 PM
Drexler would absolutely be the best SG today. Prime Drexler put up 27/8/6 on 50% with 2.7 steals and good to great defense. Great slasher and finisher, deadly in transition, solid mid-range shooter, very good passer and rebounder, and as previously mentioned an excellent defender. The Glyde could do it all. He led his team to 3 straight WCF's and 2 finals and was a great playoff performer throughout his career. He was always overshadowed by Jordan and another in a long list of players who were denied a title by Jordan, but Drexler was an amazing player. My third favorite player ever behind Wade and Zo.

I'd even go as far as saying Houston would be better with 1995 Rocket's Drexler than current Harden. His playoff run of 21/7/5/1.5/0.7 on 48% and great defense is one of the more underrated 2nd option playoff runs ever. Harden is better offensively but Drexler was a much better defender and much more effective off the ball.

3ball
04-20-2016, 07:54 PM
Clyde had no left hand.



Looks like he's going left pretty good to me:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-16-2015/GbxLad.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-25-2015/46m9wH.gif

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I mean he would still be good but the holes in his game would prevent him from being as good as the players now.


Remember, Curry's good shooting is the EXCEPTION among the league's top scorers - Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler all have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11712984&postcount=40), yet they're still the top wing scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.

Today's spacing and hands-off defense would benefit Clyde and MJ's athleticism the same way, except in Jordan's case, he had well-documented, goat midrange efficiency (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43), which would put him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and give him a similarly massive advantage over Lebron, Westbrook and company.

G-train
04-20-2016, 07:57 PM
I'd even go as far as saying Houston would be better with 1995 Rocket's Drexler than current Harden. His playoff run of 21/7/5/1.5/0.7 on 48% and great defense is one of the more underrated 2nd option playoff runs ever.


Was actually thinking that myself. He was inspirational that post season.