John Wall, Prime Chris Webber, and Prime Juwan Howard

[Lebron23]

How many wins if they play in the NBA this season??

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[Im Still Ballin]

You've got the most talented PF of all time in Chris

This team wins 60 alone on talent.

[sammichoffate]

If they're in the East, they make the Finals by default. C-Webb was low-key unstoppable in his prime.

[swagga]

You've got the most talented PF of all time in Chris

This team wins 60 alone on talent.

you can't be this dumb can you?

[Im Still Ballin]

you can't be this dumb can you?
Name a more talented PF?

Hint; You can't

[Uncle Drew]

Name a more talented PF?

Hint; You can't
Other than the obvious names: Sheed.

[IncarceratedBob]

hard to argue against C Dub as the most talented PF... imagine him in Pops system. Damn

[Siemens]

You've got the most talented PF of all time in Chris



So we have Cousins at C, and Webber at PF. Can't wait to see the rest of your dumbass GOAT list.

[Siemens]

hard to argue against C Dub as the most talented PF... imagine him in Pops system. Damn

Yeah, probably 2 rings :bowdown:

[Im Still Ballin]

Sheeds is close but not as talented as C-Webb

He doesn't have the athleticism or passing Chris did

[Im Still Ballin]

Talented doesn't mean greatest or best

[IncarceratedBob]

Yeah, probably 2 rings :bowdown:
Well obviously I meant give Pop rookie Webber not have Webber join the Spurs in 97...

Tim IMO is the GOAT PF but most talented? Nah.

[Im Still Ballin]

Ego is what held Chris back. If he played like Duncan, down low more exclusively, he would been seen as a lot greater in most eyes.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Other than the obvious names: Sheed.

Sheed was a freak. He could have been so much better if he realized how devastating he was in the post. I respect him for playing more team ball on those Pistons team that were winning 60+ and reaching the ECF/NBA finals for 4 years in a row but he always could have been better at least in my opinion. Sheed wasn't the passer Chris Webber was though. In terms of offense, I would say Sheed had arguably more energy. He definitely had the intimidation factor and possibly a defensive edge. I would say though Chris Webber was definitely a more legitimate #1 for a playoff team but Sheed was a fine #2/#3 for a championship team.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Ego is what held Chris back. If he played like Duncan, down low more exclusively, he would been seen as a lot greater in most eyes.

He fell in love with those long 2s way too often. Reminds me so much of Lemarcus Aldridge sometimes.

[Siemens]

Well obviously I meant give Pop rookie Webber not have Webber join the Spurs in 97...



Same here. Spurs don't win in 99 or 03 without Tim. They would have been capable in 2005, but Tim still had the edge, and that edge is necessary in a 7 game series with the Pistons. He would have won in 07 and 14 as a part of a larger team effort.

[Jailblazers7]

It's still hard to say with only knowing 3 guys on the damn roster but they'd clearly be a top 3-4 seed. I'd like to see how Wall and Webber work together tho because they don't seem like clearly complementary pieces. I have little doubt Wall would be able to figure it out tho. Extremely smart and seems to be a win or nothing type of leader.

[swagga]

heavy trolling in this thread :lol

imo lebron james is the most talented power forward ever, he is big, athletic, GOAT pf passer, GOAT pf ball handler, one of the best shooters, GOAT slasher, imagine lebron playing duncan's role in pop system, can you say 15 rings? :rolleyes:

[Im Still Ballin]

C webb had ridiculously long arms

6-9 barefoot (6-10 in shoes, listed)
7-3.5 wingspan

He had the strength, length and skill to dominate the low post. such a shame

[RightToCensor]

Name a more talented PF?

Hint; You can't
Donatas Motiejunas

[20Four]

Lebron23: 202.138.183.242
Im still ballin: 202.138.183.242

Wow yall got caught slippin

http://i.imgur.com/cJ7ux2o.gif

It makes sense why you answer right away lol

[Im Still Ballin]

Lebron23: 202.138.183.242
Im still ballin: 202.138.183.242
20four: 202.138.183.242

Damn, we got caught slippin!

[20Four]

Lebron23: 202.138.183.242
Im still ballin: 202.138.183.242
20four: 202.138.183.242

Damn, we got caught slippin!
Aww, you got caught lmao it makes sense son!!!! hahahahahahahhahaha

[imdaman99]

He fell in love with those long 2s way too often. Reminds me so much of Lemarcus Aldridge sometimes.
He was like a more athletic LMA with great passing skills :bowdown:

Shame about his injuries, he should have been amongst the greatest of all time.

[christian1923]

hard to argue against C Dub as the most talented PF... imagine him in Pops system. Damn
You mean Dantoni's system?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Rod Strickland was every bit as good as Wall and they still got Molly Whopped by MJs Bulls. So basically the same outcome here as well. Wall is simeltaneously both really good and overrated.

[Smoke117]

Sheed was a freak. He could have been so much better if he realized how devastating he was in the post. I respect him for playing more team ball on those Pistons team that were winning 60+ and reaching the ECF/NBA finals for 4 years in a row but he always could have been better at least in my opinion. Sheed wasn't the passer Chris Webber was though. In terms of offense, I would say Sheed had arguably more energy. He definitely had the intimidation factor and possibly a defensive edge. I would say though Chris Webber was definitely a more legitimate #1 for a playoff team but Sheed was a fine #2/#3 for a championship team.

Indeed. This guy in the early 2000s was better than Duncan, Garnett, Mcydyess, Webber, Malone down in the post. His turn around was unstoppable. There was nothing you could do because of his length, but hope he missed it. While Garnett had to work on his and it was always streaky from night to night, Sheed was pure money. I usually only have good things to say about a guy as unselfish as Sheed...but frankly he was hurting the teams he was on by not demanding the ball more and taking 18+ shots a game. My only qualm about his post game was that he didn't put it on the floor enough and he had the ball handling to do so.

Possibly a defensive edge? Sheed was a MUCH better defensive player than Webber. It's a joke that this guy was never even 2nd team all defensive. He was the best one on one post defender for a good decade and was also able to anchor a defense. (Pistons only dropped from 5th in defense to 7th when Big Ben left because Sheed held it down. Didn't matter though...got snubbed again.)

[imdaman99]

Rod Strickland was every bit as good as Wall and they still got Molly Whopped by MJs Bulls. So basically the same outcome here as well. Wall is simeltaneously both really good and overrated.
What do you mean? That 3 game sweep was probably one of the toughest the Bulls dynasty played in the 1st round. Yes it was a sweep, but I am pretty sure 2 of the games came down to the final minute(s).

[SamuraiSWISH]

What do you mean? That 3 game sweep was probably one of the toughest the Bulls dynasty played in the 1st round. Yes it was a sweep, but I am pretty sure 2 of the games came down to the final minute(s).
Yes, because they got swept.

I agree the games were very competitive. Washington had a young, talented team all around with: Strickland, Cheney, Webber, and J. Howard.

I think it was Pippen's game winning dunk in the close out game that ruined his back, and plagued him not only for the rest of those playoffs and second three peat but the rest of his career period.

[sd3035]

Prime Bran and two WNBA players > Wall, Webber, Howard

[PsychoBe]

Yes, because they got swept.

I agree the games were very competitive. Washington had a young, talented team all around with: Strickland, Cheney, Webber, and J. Howard.

I think it was Pippen's game winning dunk in the close out game that ruined his back, and plagued him not only for the rest of those playoffs and second three peat but the rest of his career period.

yea he made the dunk then fell straight onto his back it was very unfortunate.

[gasolina]

Juwan would have trouble playing the 3 in today's game and might be 6th man.

That said, all those years they never did play as 4&5, and had odd stiffs playing center (Muresan, Davis, Thorpe, and finally Ben Wallace)

Proves why in that era, toughness>>>>>>> skill. And I miss that

[ThickassGlasses]

C-Webs talent is greatly underestimated on here.

[Real14]

hard to argue against C Dub as the most talented PF... imagine him in Pops system. Damn

I cant argue with this :confusedshrug: