How would Curry have done in the 80s,90s?

[BlakFrankWhite]

How would Curry perform if he came along when the three pointer was deemphasized and hand checking was legal? Would defensive stoppers like Jordan, Pippen, Alvin Robertson, Payton, Moncrief, Michael Cooper, Dennis Johnson, Dennis Rodman, Derek Harper etc molest Curry with their aggressive ways or would Curry be able to adjust?


Would the lack of spacing kill his offense or would he be skilled enough to score with a midrange game in a crowded paint area lurking with all time bigs (Kareem, Parish, Moses, Ewing, Sampson, Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq, Mourning, Mutombo) and all time shot blockers (Eaton, Bol) etc?

[warriorfan]

I don't think he would do as well. He would still be great but his numbers would come down a little.

[Real14]

Truthfully Curry would have a very hard time against Jordan, bad boy pistons and that superior knicks defense. He would probably score 10 points a game or less.

[keep-itreal]

He would get mauled :roll:

[iamgine]

If Dale Ellis could do it, why not Curry?

[Real14]

If Dale Ellis could do it, why not Curry?
Are you serious man?:biggums:

[funnystuff]

Baha, Curry would get destroyed.

[Im Still Ballin]

Imagine Curry with a shortened 3pt line

MVP

[Real14]

Imagine Curry with a shortened 3pt line

MVP
Lord help us:facepalm

[Im Still Ballin]

Curry would average 50% from 3 on 10 attempts

[Real14]

Curry would average 50% from 3 on 10 attempts
Stop. Just stop.

[All Net]

No different

He gets no calls and pushed around now. Wouldnt of made a difference.

[Real14]

No different

He gets no calls and pushed around now. Wouldnt of made a difference.
I know you don't seriously believe that man.

[Jameerthefear]

30/9/7 on 54% from the field. Probably 65% TS

[FatComputerNerd]

Probably around Marc Price level...only perhaps a bit less tough/scrappy.

He would be a top PG.

[Poetry]

Imagine Curry with a shortened 3pt line

MVP

Some guys actually shot worse with the shortened line.

[oarabbus]

Some guys actually shot worse with the shortened line.

And the highest 3pt% of all time also got set with the shortened line.

Curry would wreck sht

[DonDadda59]

His game would have to change. He wouldn't have the same space and offensive freedom he enjoys now that's for sure. He'd have to rely more on coming off screens to get open looks ala Reggie or Ray during the 90s.

[Poetry]

And the highest 3pt% of all time also got set with the shortened line.

Curry would wreck sht

Korver set the single season high in 2009-10 with .536 and Curry hasn't topped that.

Other players shot higher percentages than Curry in the 80s, so it's not a given that he would do better with a shortened line.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Would still be a top-tier PG/player, regardless, give or take... Although I can't really see him as a top3 MVP candidate at least, like he is this year, at some point.



If Dale Ellis could do it, why not Curry?

Both all-time great shooters with very quick releases (Curry being overall better shooter; Ellis wasn't elite from the FT line, for example) but very different players, with different body types even. Comparisons like that are futile.

Dale couldn't even see Curry in terms of passing/playmaking, and he could handle the rock but not on Steph's level.
On the other hand, Ellis was like 5 inches taller than Curry, and that was a dude that could hurt you from the post, many people don't even know about it. Also got some buckets pounding them offensive boards.

Dale did more off-ball scoring than Curry (beast on the catch-n-shoot coming off of baseline screens), Stephen does more off-the-dribble thn him; Ellis scored more in the paint too with size, strength, post-game and offensive rebounding, attacked more and gained more fouls.

Peak vs peak, Ellis was a better scorer (size/athleticism also help) although I'd call Curry the better overall player and even shooter.

Peak Dale Ellis was something like Klay Thompson equipped with a very good post-game, and a much better offensive rebounder also getting some putback buckets.

[Heavincent]

He doesn't get any calls anyway, so nothing changes.

90's is one thing, but the 80's? :roll: Nobody played defense in the 80's (with a few exceptions like the Pistons). Go back and watch a game from that era. Today's defense is certainly tougher.

Steph Curry would be great in any era. Fact.

[3ball]

[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]

Rule 10, Section VII Defensive Three-Second

b. Any defensive player, who is positioned in the 16-foot lane or the area extending 4 feet past the lane endline, must be actively guarding an opponent within three seconds. [B][SIZE="2"]Actively guarding means being within arm

[3ball]

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Curry would have to deal with FAR superior paint defense.

In the GIF below, look specifically at horace grant under the rim - the rules in previous eras didn't require horace to stay within armslength (http://www.nba.com/nba101/misunderstood_0708.html) of his man, so he decides to stop under the rim and camp in the paint, instead of following his man toni kukocs out to the 3-point line in the far corner.. The paint-camping allows Horace to get there ahead of time and contest MJ at the rim - but MJ dunks on him anyway...


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/1688bbb6ca0ae0c82adf7da10bb6ac46.gif




otoh, look at the open paint below, and specifically at harrison barnes near the far corner - durant must stay within armslength (http://www.nba.com/nba101/misunderstood_0708.html) of barnes to remain in the paint - so durant goes towards the edge of the paint to stay within "armslength", and consequently, he's late coming over.


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/270ad21b124fe5a38ae181bac30c0a8d.gif

[3ball]

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Here's another one - as you can see, the previous era wing makes a quick move immediately and drives into a paint that has 3 defenders paint-camping in there...


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/c27a7589bc4681278938f85dbb781f40.gif




Otoh, the current era wing ***** around with the ball even though the paint is wide open - not a defender in there at all because of spacing and defensive 3 seconds.


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/8cfb1f5cd6acc974960d916586e49b4a.gif



night and day.. :facepalm.
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[swagga]

No different

He gets no calls and pushed around now. Wouldnt of made a difference.

he'd get bullied in the 80s & 90s...

[swagga]

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Here's another one - as you can see, the previous era wing makes a quick move immediately and drives into a paint that has 3 defenders paint-camping in there...


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/c27a7589bc4681278938f85dbb781f40.gif




Otoh, the current era wing ***** around with the ball even though the paint is wide open - not a defender in there at all because of spacing and defensive 3 seconds.


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/8cfb1f5cd6acc974960d916586e49b4a.gif



night and day.. :facepalm
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in pressure situations, do you think jordan is a better 3 point shooter than curry?

[3ball]

in pressure situations, do you think jordan is a better 3 point shooter than curry?
Half of Curry's shot attempts are 3-pointers, so he relies on that in the clutch.

Otoh, Jordan had infinitely more options and he would select whatever option gave his team the best chance to win - in times when that option happened to be 3-point shooting, I think MJ's shown that he's capable of morphing into Curry from deep if he needs to.

[sd3035]

Even better than now. Defense sucked in the 80s

[swagga]

Half of Curry's shot attempts are 3-pointers, so he relies on that in the clutch.

Otoh, Jordan had infinitely more options and he would select whatever option gave his team the best chance to win - in times when that option happened to be 3-point shooting, I think MJ's shown that he's capable of morphing into Curry from deep if he needs to.

simple question: 10s on the clock in the 4th, you have the ball and need a 3 to tie game 7 in the finals. Do you give the ball to jordan or curry?

[jstern]

Probably average around 3 points less per game, due to not being a perimeter friendly league.

Like Kobe said, the more elite you are, the less of an impact the old rules will have on your offensive game. But if you're just a good perimeter player, then the impact would be a lot greater.

[Im Still Ballin]

Probably average around 3 points less per game, due to not being a perimeter friendly league.

Like Kobe said, the more elite you are, the less of an impact the old rules will have on your offensive game. But if you're just a good perimeter player, then the impact would be much bigger.
:applause:

[jstern]

:applause:

Why are you clapping. The perimeter players will still average less back then.

[Uncle Drew]

He'd get smothered. That ankle wouldn't be save. Curry dribbling into the paint with Laimbeer, Mahorn and Rodman waiting for him? I'm not sure I'd even watch it.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Even better than now. Defense sucked in the 80s

http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/10f1c13acb043d8be838b7cd90e5c5fd.gif

[Sarcastic]

While he would have an evolution advantage, he would lose a lot of his strengths due to illegal defense rules, and not seeing the zones and shaded lanes, which frees up shooters today.

[jstern]

While he would have an evolution advantage, he would lose a lot of his strengths due to illegal defense rules, and not seeing the zones and shaded lanes, which frees up shooters today.

What do you mean by evolution advantage?

[DonDadda59]

What do you mean by evolution advantage?

Curry = bigger, stronger, faster, overall more athletic than past perimeter players.

http://sports-kings.com/passthepill/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Steph-Curry1.jpg

Evolution. It's science bruh.

[Micku]

Erm...probably the best PG depending the year? Well, at least tip tier.

I doubt he'll be MVP or top 3 MVP, since competition back then was a bit tougher for individual awards, but it depends on his team winning or not.

Overall, it'll probably just be the same. Probably better since guys in the 80s didn't really defend the 3pt shot as much. You really have to be good to for them to be up on you. If Curry had the same style now and played back then, then he would've either revolutionize the game or the coach would tell him to quit it and go for the 2pt jumpshot.

The 90s would've been different.

[jstern]

Curry = bigger, stronger, faster, overall more athletic than past perimeter players.

http://sports-kings.com/passthepill/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Steph-Curry1.jpg

Evolution. It's science bruh.
Oh I see. 90s players had weaker ankles. They can't compete with his size I guess.

[BlakFrankWhite]

he'd get pushed and shoved dont think he'd be as effective

[Cold soul]

Curry wouldn't be as effective against bigger more physical defenses with hand checking I dont think he would translate all that well.

[Dragic4Life]

mike would have only won 1-2 rings.

[plowking]

Probably more points on even more 3 point attempts.

[Ancient Legend]

If he started getting hot, he would get fouled, HARD

http://www.rnningfool.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/bilde.jpg

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZLMYNxW6Mqs/maxresdefault.jpg

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/0/2986/611710-bill_laimbeer.jpg

Curry, you're next!

[Heavincent]

Curry = bigger, stronger, faster, overall more athletic than past perimeter players.

http://sports-kings.com/passthepill/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Steph-Curry1.jpg

Evolution. It's science bruh.

Also the greatest shooter in the history of the game, combined with elite ball handling, passing, and court vision.

There has never been a player like Steph Curry.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Also the greatest shooter in the history of the game, combined with elite ball handling, passing, and court vision.

There has never been a player like Steph Curry.

elite passer,court vision....yet has fewer assists this season then 'selfish chucker' Westbrook

[plowking]

If he started getting hot, he would get fouled, HARD

Curry, you're next!

And those players would be out of the game and he would continue shooting.

[navy]

elite passer,court vision....yet has fewer assists this season then 'selfish chucker' Westbrook
Usage Rate

[BlakFrankWhite]

playing for much of the season with the likes of Roberton,Waiters and ofcourse the legendary kendrick perkins.....

i aint surprised by his usage %

[AirFederer]

He'd be great.

[Heavincent]

elite passer,court vision....yet has fewer assists this season then 'selfish chucker' Westbrook

Yup, assists are the absolute only way to measure how good a player's passing/court vision is.

[Ancient Legend]

And those players would be out of the game and he would continue shooting.

Not if they called the fouls just regular fouls as they did back then, no such Flagrant 2 BS.

[Showtime80']

Top 10 players in 1987:

Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson
Larry Bird
Hakeem Olajuwon
Charles Barkley
Dominique Wilkins
Isaiah Thomas
Kevin McHale
Moses Malone
Clyde Drexler

All in their primes or close to it, does Curry even crack that list in 87'? He's a leading MVP candidate in today's league by the way

[Micku]

Top 10 players in 1987:

Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson
Larry Bird
Hakeem Olajuwon
Charles Barkley
Dominique Wilkins
Isaiah Thomas
Kevin McHale
Moses Malone
Clyde Drexler

All in their primes or close to it, does Curry even crack that list in 87'? He's a leading MVP candidate in today's league by the way

I think he would. It depends on the record of his team to crack the top 10 MVP tho. Drexler wasn't even top 10 that year and Fat Lever got more MVP votes than him. In terms of top 5? I doubt it. Competition was fierce. Competition was fierce in general in the 80s. You still have Karl Malone and Alex English up there.