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IncarceratedBob
03-27-2015, 10:55 PM
Who put in the most time to become the best they possibly could be at their craft, IYO?

Rolando
03-27-2015, 10:59 PM
Who put in the most time to become the best they possibly could be at their craft, IYO?

Kobe

He really wasn't anything so special when he first came in. He worked his ass off definitely.

Alamо
03-27-2015, 11:02 PM
Kobe

Budadiiii
03-27-2015, 11:09 PM
Some unknown player that wasn't physically blessed.

WOAT work ethic probably goes to LeBron. Half-asses everything he does.

MJistheGOAT
03-27-2015, 11:11 PM
Some unknown player that wasn't physically blessed.

WOAT work ethic probably goes to LeBron. Half-asses everything he does.

Have you heard about the Shaq

Budadiiii
03-27-2015, 11:14 PM
[QUOTE=MJistheGOAT]Have you heard about the Shaq

Achilleas
03-27-2015, 11:17 PM
shooters,the don't have physical power to help their game so if the want to stay in the game the must shoot.all these players shoot more than 500 shoots a day

Cold soul
03-27-2015, 11:19 PM
Kobe Bryant.

Jacks3
03-27-2015, 11:24 PM
Kobe Bean.

Nothing special as a athlete, but turned himself into one of the best players ever through his B-Ball IQ, determination, and GOAT-level work ethic.

Truly inspiring.

coin24
03-27-2015, 11:25 PM
Kobe

:applause:

Beastmode88
03-27-2015, 11:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/v8HP0yS.jpg

Giving it his all. UNLEASH THE BEAST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kshvbcihXKI

SIR CHARLES :bowdown: :bowdown:

Cold soul
03-27-2015, 11:31 PM
Kobe Bean.

Nothing special as a athlete, but turned himself into one of the best players ever through his B-Ball IQ, determination, and GOAT-level work ethic.

Truly inspiring.

Actually Kobe was a great athlete he was special just not physical freak of nature like Shaq, Lebron, Jordan, Carter, etc were. Kobe is like 2nd or 3rd tier in terms of natural athleticism.

MJistheGOAT
03-27-2015, 11:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kshvbcihXKI

SIR CHARLES :bowdown: :bowdown:

LOL, excellent prank :roll:

aj1987
03-27-2015, 11:33 PM
Kobe Bean.

Nothing special as a athlete, but turned himself into one of the best players ever through his B-Ball IQ, determination, and GOAT-level work ethic.

Truly inspiring.
:biggums:

Kobe has/had an AMAZING work ethic, but lets not act like he wasn't a beast athlete. Have you ever seen Frobe play?

Beastmode88
03-27-2015, 11:33 PM
LOL, excellent prank :roll:

It was ok. Any experience lifter would notice charles was using flake plates when he hit 225.

bballnoob1192
03-27-2015, 11:35 PM
has to be kobe. i can't see another player that can come into the nba coming off the bench. then starting as the second best player on a dynasty team, then putting up historical numbers, then winning an MVP, then winning back to back titles as the number one option. I don't think anyone else from the top 10-20 players of all time came off the bench as a rookie/sophmore.

Lebron23
03-27-2015, 11:38 PM
Kobe

He really wasn't anything so special when he first came in. He worked his ass off definitely.


Kobe averaged 30.8 points, 12 rebounds, 6.5 assists, 4.0 steals, and 3.8 in his senior year in high school. He was the best HS player in Pennsylvania.

He didn't get enough playing time in his first 2 NBA Seasons because his coach started veteran player Eddie Jones.

MJistheGOAT
03-27-2015, 11:45 PM
It was ok. Any experience lifter would notice charles was using flake plates when he hit 225.

That was directed for the general audience :rolleyes:

inclinerator
03-27-2015, 11:48 PM
i want to say kobe, but many of his stories are also exaggerated

Lebron23
03-27-2015, 11:55 PM
i want to say kobe, but many of his stories are also exaggerated


It's probably Nash or Stockton. White guys dominating the NBA despite being 6'0" to 6'1".

LoneyROY7
03-27-2015, 11:55 PM
Kobe Bean.

Nothing special as a athlete, but turned himself into one of the best players ever through his B-Ball IQ, determination, and GOAT-level work ethic.

Truly inspiring.

:biggums:

Ancient Legend
03-27-2015, 11:56 PM
Larry Bird, is called Larry Legend because of his blue collar work ethic and played his ass off everytime even when injured. He had all the fundamentals mastered, His body is one of the most unathletic for a superstar ever.

MEB2kDeez
03-27-2015, 11:58 PM
Kobe.

Lebron23
03-27-2015, 11:59 PM
:biggums:


Kobe fan boys loves exaggerating stories. They need to write their own bible.

LAZERUSS
03-28-2015, 12:00 AM
http://i.imgur.com/v8HP0yS.jpg

Giving it his all. UNLEASH THE BEAST.

In Cherry's book on Wilt...Chamberlain was doing 125 lb dumb-bell curls...

Jameerthefear
03-28-2015, 12:02 AM
In Cherry's book on Wilt...Chamberlain was doing 125 lb dumb-bell curls...
Shut the **** up

coin24
03-28-2015, 12:04 AM
In Cherry's book on Wilt...Chamberlain was doing 125 lb dumb-bell curls...


All that extra testosterone, he was worked up seeing all the half naked guys flexing and lifting weights:lol

LAZERUSS
03-28-2015, 12:11 AM
In Cherry's book on Wilt...Chamberlain was doing 125 lb dumb-bell curls...

Oops...I exaggerated...

On page 375, a big guy by the name of Fluke Fluker, who was 6-5 and 250 lbs, worked out with Wilt at the Mid-Valley Racquetball Club in the 90's. Even Fluker, who claimed that he, himself could bench 500 lbs, was amazed at Wilt's strength, "The man could curl a 100 lb dumb-bell as easy as I can lift a telephone receiver."

Jacks3
03-28-2015, 12:38 AM
:biggums:

Kobe has/had an AMAZING work ethic, but lets not act like he wasn't a beast athlete. Have you ever seen Frobe play?

Even Frobe is nothing special relatively speaking. Compare him to other legendary perimeter payers (LBJ, Jordan, Wade, Drexler, Iverson, McGrady) etc) and he lags far behind in terms of the overall athletic package. It's insane how good he was in his prime given his relatively average athleticism.

tpols
03-28-2015, 12:54 AM
Even Frobe is nothing special relatively speaking. Compare him to other legendary perimeter payers (LBJ, Jordan, Wade, Drexler, Iverson, McGrady) etc) and he lags far behind in terms of the overall athletic package. It's insane how good he was in his prime given his relatively average athleticism.

Ehh.. body control is underrated part of athleticism.. you have the power guys like lebron and Drexler who just run fast and out muscle but they're athletic stiffs in comparison to Kobe and mj fluidity and creative motion.

Cold soul
03-28-2015, 01:00 AM
Ehh.. body control is underrated part of athleticism.. you have the power guys like lebron and Drexler who just run fast and out muscle but they're athletic stiffs in comparison to Kobe and mj fluidity and creative motion.

Kobe agility, hang time, and overall body control in the air was flat out insane.

Jacks3
03-28-2015, 01:07 AM
Ehh.. body control is underrated part of athleticism.. you have the power guys like lebron and Drexler who just run fast and out muscle but they're athletic stiffs in comparison to Kobe and mj fluidity and creative motion.

Body control is nice, but the single most important athletic attribute for wings is the first-step/explosiveness/quickness, and Bryant clearly lags behind in that department compared to his peers. Think about it. Even when he was at his athletic peak (2003), 78%! of his shots were still jumpers. Admittedly, some of that was poor shot-selection, and some of it was just the fact that he was a very good jump-shooter, but most of it is just not having the ability to get to the rim at will the way a Wade or Jordan or LeBron could.

tpols
03-28-2015, 01:15 AM
Body control is nice, but the single most important athletic attribute for wings is the first-step/explosiveness/quickness, and Bryant clearly lags behind in that department compared to his peers. Think about it. Even when he was at his athletic peak (2003), 78%! of his shots were still jumpers. Admittedly, some of that was poor shot-selection, and some of it was just the fact that he was a very good jump-shooter, but most of it is just not having the ability to get to the rim at will the way a Wade or Jordan or LeBron could.
First step quickness ? Kobe has better first step quickness than Bron and tmac and drexler.. he lacks compared to AI but he has a huge physical height and strength advantage. Either way kobes triple threat quickness better than everyone you listed except jordan and iverson (but hes at a disadvantage for being much smaller).

Joyner82reload
03-28-2015, 01:17 AM
Probably Nash tbh. Kobe and Bird are also up there. Despite Bird pounding down beers after games :lol
Nash was a 6'0 PG with no athleticism, yet he turned into one of the GOAT offensive PG's. Defensively, there wasn't much he could due to being undersized with limited athleticism. Stockton is another one that overachieved substantially given his physical gifts.

SaltyMeatballs
03-28-2015, 01:26 AM
You guys are all saying Kobe, but it was actually his former teammate who had a stronger work ethic. His name is Andrew Bynum. This guy worked rigorously on his craft every single day. He would make jokes in practice, and give 10% each and every day in scrimmages. He'd also go to gym for countless hours, just to watch other guys work out. I'm telling you, Bynum was really really dedicated. One of the GOATs

qrich
03-28-2015, 01:36 AM
For someone like Shaun Livingston to be able to return and play in the NBA after his injury is spectacular enough to deserve a mention.

But really, this goes to the under sized guys who weren't overly athletic that worked to remain atop the league. Guys like Steve Nash, John Stockton, Chris Paul, Mike Bibby, etc.

Joyner82reload
03-28-2015, 01:38 AM
For someone like Shaun Livingston to be able to return and play in the NBA after his injury is spectacular enough to deserve a mention.

But really, this goes to the under sized guys who weren't overly athletic that worked to remain atop the league. Guys like Steve Nash, John Stockton, Chris Paul, Mike Bibby, etc.

Well, Paul was originally one of the most physically gifted PG's in NBA history. The fact that he didn't let his injuries derail his career is very admirable however.

Sarcastic
03-28-2015, 01:40 AM
Larry Bird, is called Larry Legend because of his blue collar work ethic and played his ass off everytime even when injured. He had all the fundamentals mastered, His body is one of the most unathletic for a superstar ever.


Came here to say this.

gts
03-28-2015, 01:42 AM
Kobe's well documented and an easy one to pick, made easier by the fact his return on the investment is so visable to us..

that being said there's lots of guys who put the time in, Ray Allen, Derek Fisher... AC Green was know to be a big time gym rat

Cocaine80s
03-28-2015, 01:44 AM
Jordan

Keno
03-28-2015, 02:54 AM
lol kobe's work ethic is so overrated lmao. lebron is way ahead of kobe on and off the court.

Prime_Shaq
03-28-2015, 02:55 AM
Kobe is a too obvious choice for me. I'm going to have to go with Nash and Bird as a close second.

Black Mamba's B
03-28-2015, 04:29 AM
Kobe, Nash, Bird, Jordan, Ray Allen, Reggie, Pippen, Dirk, Stockton and Malone.

SyRyanYang
03-28-2015, 04:31 AM
Stephen Curry

Kobe doesn't spend enough time watching tapes

JebronLames
03-28-2015, 04:54 AM
Peyton Manning

Asukal
03-28-2015, 06:01 AM
MJ that's why he's the best. :bowdown:

scandisk_
03-28-2015, 06:51 AM
Obvious answers are Bean and Larry (non-top tier athletes that worked their asses of) MJ and Hakeem for mastering and pioneering their crafts.

Siemens
03-28-2015, 06:54 AM
This is the 1 thing I think Kobe is GOAT at.

SexSymbol
03-28-2015, 07:26 AM
So Kobe -
Pretty much lived and breathed basketball since day one, didn't have many friends, in Italy he spent most of his time on the court. Also played soccer, so has incredible body control because of that.
Rang a trainer in the middle of the night to have a training session and shoot 800 makes before team USA practice.
Watches tapes of other teams on the plane rides while everybody else is asleep or joking around.
Pretty much always plays through injuries if it is at least possible to move for him.
Shot 2 FT's after tearing up his achilles.

Man is an unstoppable work force, there's nobody even close in terms of work ethic

SwayDizzle
03-28-2015, 07:34 AM
Kobe has the greatest work ethic. MJ was naturally more talented. I don't think there is any way in hell that Kobe would have stopped basketball simply because he was bored and the NBA presented him no challenge. MJ was so good he had all the all time greats admitting he was the GOAT early into his NBA career. MJ had nothing left to prove after his first three peat. Kobe would have found some reason to keep on going. That right there is a sign of great work ethic. You find ways to inspire yourself to keep going.