Why Andrew Wiggins deserves roy over elfred payton and nerlins noel

[Im so nba'd out]

I can clearly remember 4 big games from him.He kept up with bron in scoring 2 times.He shut down russell westbrook once and he shut down james harden once.Thats 4 key games vs mega superstars.I remember one game where elfred payton had a triple double vs rondo.Noel had some good games recently but wiggins been doing it longer....he deserves the roy :applause:

[JtotheIzzo]

I can clearly remember 4 big games from him.He kept up with bron in scoring 2 times.He shut down russell westbrook once and he shut down james harden once.Thats 4 key games vs mega superstars.I remember one game where elfred payton had a triple double vs rondo.Noel had some good games recently but wiggins been doing it longer....he deserves the roy :applause:

it is pretty much a given, only Philly, Orlando and butthurt Cleveland beat writers (or fat f*cks like Jason Whitlock who need to save face) will vote otherwise.

[Jameerthefear]

it is pretty much a given, only Philly, Orlando and butthurt Cleveland beat writers (or fat f*cks like Jason Whitlock who need to save face) will vote otherwise.
payton, mirotic, and noel all impact the game more than wiggins right now.

[JtotheIzzo]

payton, mirotic, and noel all impact the game more than wiggins right now.

Complete horseshit, go back to your underaged porn pedo.

[Jameerthefear]

Complete horseshit, go back to your underaged porn pedo.
mad f*ggot?
bulls are like 5 points better with mirotic.
magic are 4 points better with payton
wolves are only like 0.8 points better with wiggins

[JtotheIzzo]

mad f*ggot?
bulls are like 5 points better with mirotic.
magic are 4 points better with payton
wolves are only like 0.8 points better with wiggins

Dumb f*ckin stat, when exactly are the Wolves without Wiggins? He is playing 40 minutes per game in his last ten games. He gets the toughest defender, starting to get doubled, plays both ends, the guy is head and shoulders above the three guys you mentioned and to think otherwise is moronic and argumentative.

[Jameerthefear]

Dumb f*ckin stat, when exactly are the Wolves without Wiggins? He is playing 40 minutes per game in his last ten games. He gets the toughest defender, starting to get doubled, plays both ends, the guy is head and shoulders above the three guys you mentioned and to think otherwise is moronic and argumentative.
no he isn't lol. wiggins isn't ****ing head and shoulders above anyone. you're a homer f*ggot.

[JtotheIzzo]

no he isn't lol. wiggins isn't ****ing head and shoulders above anyone. you're a homer f*ggot.

yeah he is:

Andrew Wiggins 16.2 - 4.4 - 2 44%

Mirotic 9.8 - 4.9 - 1.2 41%

Payton 8.9 - 4.2 - 6.3 43%

Noel 9.9 - 8.1 - 1.6 47%

this fool thinks Wiggins has the least impact out of this group...and he wonder why no one respects him :oldlol:

I swear this forum gets dumber all the time.

[Jameerthefear]

yeah he is:

Andrew Wiggins 16.2 - 4.4 - 2 44%

Mirotic 9.8 - 4.9 - 1.2 41%

Payton 8.9 - 4.2 - 6.3 43%

Noel 9.9 - 8.1 - 1.6 47%

this fool thinks Wiggins has the least impact out of this group...and he wonder why no one respects him :oldlol:

I swear this forum gets dumber all the time.
>rounding wiggins stats when you didn't do the same for the rest of them
yeah i think we know who's the biased one here

[ZMonkey11]

:rockon:
I can clearly remember 4 big games from him.He kept up with bron in scoring 2 times.He shut down russell westbrook once and he shut down james harden once.Thats 4 key games vs mega superstars.I remember one game where elfred payton had a triple double vs rondo.Noel had some good games recently but wiggins been doing it longer....he deserves the roy :applause:

Players that haven't accomplished anything yet cannot be considered "mega" superstars.

[Giaodollo]

Complete horseshit, go back to your underaged porn pedo.


Really mature, sir.

In my opinion Noel, Payton and Mirotic have all shown to be more impactful this year. Elfrid is a triple double threat on a daily basis, Mirotic is a great scorer and Noel is already a great defender.

Wiggins doesn't stand out at all, nothing he does is at as high of a level as any of these guys.

[SugarHill]

>rounding wiggins stats when you didn't do the same for the rest of them
yeah i think we know who's the biased one here
No he didn't. He posted the actual stats for all of them. Nothing is skewed.:rolleyes:

all you had to do was post their post all-star stats.

[JtotheIzzo]

>rounding wiggins stats when you didn't do the same for the rest of them
yeah i think we know who's the biased one here


I rounded up everyone's stats dummy:

Noel 46.8%
Payton's 42.8%

Give up, you are an embarrassment.

[JtotheIzzo]

Really mature, sir.

In my opinion Noel, Payton and Mirotic have all shown to be more impactful this year. Elfrid is a triple double threat on a daily basis, Mirotic is a great scorer and Noel is already a great defender.

Wiggins doesn't stand out at all, nothing he does is at as high of a level as any of these guys.

are you Jameer's retarded brother?

[Giaodollo]

are you Jameer's retarded brother?

No, but you are a close minded stan who doesn't understand that people have varying opinions and criteria for ROTY then your own and your rebuttal is a insult despite you probably being an adult.

Tell me what separates Wiggins from anyone of the other players excluding potential.

Only reason he has a decent amount of points per game is because he is playing on a terrible team, put Mirotic there and I am positive ha can average 19-20 ppg.

[JtotheIzzo]

No, but you are a close minded stan who doesn't understand that people have varying opinions and criteria for ROTY then your own and your rebuttal is a insult despite you probably being an adult.

Tell me what separates Wiggins from anyone of the other players excluding potential.

Only reason he has a decent amount of points per game is because he is playing on a terrible team, put Mirotic there and I am positive ha can average 19-20 ppg.

he is almost doubling them in ppg.
he is shooting a better percentage
he is a better defender.
he is playing the feature role on his team.

shall I go on?

Or do you want to give more retarded opinions that make no sense in any form and then cry when you get called out?

up to you sport.

[Giaodollo]

he is almost doubling them in ppg.
he is shooting a better percentage
he is a better defender.
he is playing the feature role on his team.

shall I go on?

Or do you want to give more retarded opinions that make no sense in any form and then cry when you get called out?

up to you sport.
He is playing more minutes then all of them and have been a 1st option at times.
Percentages doesn't mean a lot as for effiecency, his FG% is high but he doesn't take a lot of threes compared to Mirotic who takes 3.5 per game in 20 minutes. TS % 55 for Mirotic and 51 % for Wiggins.

Then who? Elfrid Payton is comparable to him on defense and Noel is in a different stratosphere when it comes to defense, he actually has an all star level impact on defense. He has the lowest DRTG of all of them.

I don't see what relevance playing "the future role" has with ROTY.

But you be sure to continue if you'd like.

[SugarHill]

No, but you are a close minded stan who doesn't understand that people have varying opinions and criteria for ROTY then your own and your rebuttal is a insult despite you probably being an adult.

Tell me what separates Wiggins from anyone of the other players excluding potential.

Only reason he has a decent amount of points per game is because he is playing on a terrible team, put Mirotic there and I am positive ha can average 19-20 ppg.

Wouldn't be surprised. Dude had a really nice March.

21/8

[Giaodollo]

Andrew "great defender" Wiggins

Average 2 point % of players he defends: 48.4 % When Guarded by him:51.2 %
Average 3 point % of players he defends: 36.4 % When guarded by him 40.1 %

Overall 44.5 on average and when he is on them 47.4

[PleezeBelieve]

There are no advanced stats that support Wiggins being a future star, and certainly not one who is clearly above players in his rookie class even though he's been given more opportunity than all of them.

Even Jabari didn't have free reign to play 35 minutes out the gate. Even still, his advanced stats smoke Wiggins.

[StrongLurk]

Wiggins is definitely the rookie of the year. The other three guys didnt start having a big impact until AFTER the all star break. Like seriously, Wiggins has been doing his thing all year while the other guys have been great for about a month and a half.

You have to give it to Wiggins.

[Prime_Shaq]

Rookie of the YEAR.
That's why its Wiggins.

[JtotheIzzo]

Andrew "great defender" Wiggins

Average 2 point % of players he defends: 48.4 % When Guarded by him:51.2 %
Average 3 point % of players he defends: 36.4 % When guarded by him 40.1 %

Overall 44.5 on average and when he is on them 47.4

are you surprised by this? he plays on a team that is shockingly bad on defense, of course good players are going to do really well against Minnesota.

Mirotic plays for the Bulls, a defensive team for the ages and perhaps the best defensive coach ever. He has shot changing bigs around him and guys like Jimmy Butler. Who does Wiggins have? Zach Levine?

You use advanced stats recklessly. Advanced stats are altered markedly based on team performance. Had Wiggins stayed on the Cavs his advanced stats and PER and BS like that would be much more impressive.

How I see it?

He's averaging 16.2 on 44% shooting.

None of the other guys can touch that, end of story.

[JtotheIzzo]

There are no advanced stats that support Wiggins being a future star, and certainly not one who is clearly above players in his rookie class even though he's been given more opportunity than all of them.

Even Jabari didn't have free reign to play 35 minutes out the gate. Even still, his advanced stats smoke Wiggins.

Ladies and gentlemen, just when this thread couldn't get any more dumber, good old Gay A decides to show his face. Maybe he has a new mixtape for us too*fingers crossed*!

Wiggins didn't play 35 minutes a night out of the gate, it wasn't until late December that he was playing that much.

[PleezeBelieve]

are you surprised by this? he plays on a team that is shockingly bad on defense, of course good players are going to do really well against Minnesota.

Mirotic plays for the Bulls, a defensive team for the ages and perhaps the best defensive coach ever. He has shot changing bigs around him and guys like Jimmy Butler. Who does Wiggins have? Zach Levine?

You use advanced stats recklessly. Advanced stats are altered markedly based on team performance. Had Wiggins stayed on the Cavs his advanced stats and PER and BS like that would be much more impressive.

How I see it?

He's averaging 16.2 on 44% shooting.

None of the other guys can touch that, end of story.
No, you are IGNORING advanced stats recklessly....

Jesus...

Wiggins is playing 36 MPG on a shitty team... any of those rookies could put up 16 points on 43% in that role.

What he's doing is not impressive. He's just out there filling a uniform up as the Wolves collect L and L. He's essentially a total non impact game in, game out.

[PleezeBelieve]

Ladies and gentlemen, just when this thread couldn't get any more dumber, good old Gay A decides to show his face. Maybe he has a new mixtape for us too*fingers crossed*!

Wiggins didn't play 35 minutes a night out of the gate, it wasn't until late December that he was playing that much.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

The bolded is why I dont debate with kids. Him playing 35 minutes a game, which is top 12 in the league, is when his stats moderately went up.

What do you know.... to go from playing 26 MPG to 40 MPG in two months would bump your stats up.

Which is my point. You think this only applies with Wiggins???

[JtotheIzzo]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The bolded is why I dont debate with kids. Him playing 35 minutes a game, which is top 12 in the league, is when his stats moderately went up.

What do you know.... to go from playing 26 MPG to 40 MPG in two months would bump your stats up.

Which is my point. You think this only applies with Wiggins???



his shooting percentage went up, and he never hit a 'rookie wall', sounds like a win to me. Tell me again how Trevor Ariza is a backup...


BTW




Even Jabari didn't have free reign to play 35 minutes out the gate. Even still, his advanced stats smoke Wiggins.

[PleezeBelieve]

his shooting percentage went up, and he never hit a 'rookie wall', sounds like a win to me. Tell me again how Trevor Ariza is a backup...


BTW
His shooting %s went up? So what..,

He's still average... not impressive. Will be one of the worst ROY winners ever.

Fact

[JtotheIzzo]

His shooting %s went up? So what..,

He's still average... not impressive. Will be one of the worst ROY winners ever.

Fact

that is about as factual as you calling Trevor Ariza a backup or Dion Waiters a real NBA player.

Face it, you are the forum clown, nothing you say ever happens.

[Hey Yo]

it is pretty much a given, only Philly, Orlando and butthurt Cleveland beat writers (or fat f*cks like Jason Whitlock who need to save face) will vote otherwise.
Why would Cleveland beat writers be butthurt about Wiggins?

If Jabari Parker doesn't go down for the season, he easily runs away with ROY.

[JtotheIzzo]

Why would Cleveland beat writers be butthurt about Wiggins?

If Jabari Parker doesn't go down for the season, he easily runs away with ROY.

no he doesn't

[k0kakw0rld]

yeah he is:

Andrew Wiggins 16.2 - 4.4 - 2 44%

Mirotic 9.8 - 4.9 - 1.2 41%

Payton 8.9 - 4.2 - 6.3 43%

Noel 9.9 - 8.1 - 1.6 47%

this fool thinks Wiggins has the least impact out of this group...and he wonder why no one respects him :oldlol:

I swear this forum gets dumber all the time.
Stats don't always tell the whole story.

[Giaodollo]

are you surprised by this? he plays on a team that is shockingly bad on defense, of course good players are going to do really well against Minnesota.

Mirotic plays for the Bulls, a defensive team for the ages and perhaps the best defensive coach ever. He has shot changing bigs around him and guys like Jimmy Butler. Who does Wiggins have? Zach Levine?

You use advanced stats recklessly. Advanced stats are altered markedly based on team performance. Had Wiggins stayed on the Cavs his advanced stats and PER and BS like that would be much more impressive.

How I see it?

He's averaging 16.2 on 44% shooting.

None of the other guys can touch that, end of story.

Oh I think I get how this works now, stats can only be used when they show Wiggins in a positive light? No worries let just throw this under the bridge and focus on PPG only. Screw spg, apg, bpg, rpb, efficency, per, ortg, drtg , Real player plus minus and on-off court production. PPG is the only thing that matters:cheers:

[JtotheIzzo]

Oh I think I get how this works now, stats can only be used when they show Wiggins in a positive light? No worries let just throw this under the bridge and focus on PPG only. Screw spg, apg, bpg, rpb, efficency, per, ortg, drtg , Real player plus minus and on-off court production. PPG is the only thing that matters:cheers:

yeah, that is what I am saying...:rolleyes:

PPG, and shooting % are such 'out there' stats, who uses those?

the bolded ones do have a team angle to them, if you think otherwise then you may very well need to 'get how they work'.

[SugarHill]

Where is the efficiency even coming from regarding Noel, Mirotic and Payton?

Noel is a joke in terms of efficiency for his position and production.

Mirotic, during his recent stretch of great play, isn't any more efficient than Wiggins. Shooting 41% iirc

[Giaodollo]

Where is the efficiency even coming from regarding Noel, Mirotic and Payton?

Noel is a joke in terms of efficiency for his position and production.

Mirotic, during his recent stretch of great play, isn't any more efficient than Wiggins. Shooting 41% iirc

Also takes multiple threes a game. He has a 55% ts % vs wiggins at 51.

[MMM]

yeah, that is what I am saying...:rolleyes:

PPG, and shooting % are such 'out there' stats, who uses those?

the bolded ones do have a team angle to them, if you think otherwise then you may very well need to 'get how they work'.

Ppg and shooting % also share a "team angle" and is exactly what some of the other guys have been arguing in this thread. Not really caught in ROY race seems irrelevant this season.

[Suguru101]

no he doesn't

He does. He would be putting up similar numbers on a playoff team.

[HurricaneKid]

Where is the efficiency even coming from regarding Noel, Mirotic and Payton?

Noel is a joke in terms of efficiency for his position and production.

Mirotic, during his recent stretch of great play, isn't any more efficient than Wiggins. Shooting 41% iirc

Noel isn't a good offensive player. He is a GREAT defensive player.

Wiggins has been fine. But the Wolves have been better when he is off the floor than when he is on it. Which is not exactly a source of pride.

Mirotic is playing for a 3 seed and leads the NBA in 4th qtr scoring this mo. Contributions like that in the 4th qtr for a team looking to go deep into the playoffs means a lot more than putting up empty stats on a really really bad team.

And LOL@ comparing FG% between guys that make 3s and other guys. Threekola (Twitter handle and its great) Mirotic shoots .557 TS%. Well above league avg. Wiggins shoots .513 TS%, below league avg.

Per 100 poss Miro avg more points, asst, reb on better shooting for a far better team.

Wiggins is going to win it. And it won't be that close. But saying that Mirotic doesn't deserve any consideration is dumb. Guys that carry their 3 seed squads in crunch time are far more valuable than guys that put up adequate #s in volume on bottom 3 teams.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

no he doesn't

I don't know about him running away with it but Parker was heavily favored over Wiggins before he went down. He probably wasn't going to match Wiggins in PPG but that's a product of the team he plays for and the relative lack of free reign that he had. 12.3/5.5 over 29.5 MPG on 49 FG% > 16.2/4.4 over 35.6 MPG on 43.8 FG%.

I think that Wiggins has a higher ceiling than Parker but there's no denying that Parker would probably have a much better shot at RoY than Wiggins had he continued to play and develop throughout the season. He was more NBA ready coming into the season imo.

[navy]

Mirotic is easily the best rookie player. Will Wiggins be better than him? Proably. But if you put Mirotic on the Wolves and Wiggins on the Bulls I have no doubt he would have better numbers than Wiggins.

[Sarcastic]

It'll be
1 Wiggins
2 Nerlens
3 Mirotic
4 who cares

[Prime_Shaq]

Why would Cleveland beat writers be butthurt about Wiggins?

If Jabari Parker doesn't go down for the season, he easily runs away with ROY.
Well we can't say for sure. Parker was looking real good but we don't know if he would've hit a rookie wall or something.

[waseem780]

Why are you guys even debating this? Too much useless stats you guys are pulling out of your asses to deny Wiggins the ROY.. Watch a few ****ing Twolves game and scout Wiggins. I bet none of yall here even watched the Twolves unless it was versus the team you support. Elfrid Payton and Mirotic seriously guys?? is that a ****ing joke.

It goes like this

Wiggins


Noel






Payton - Mirotic.

[dontgetchoked]

Mirotic is easily the best rookie player. Will Wiggins be better than him? Proably. But if you put Mirotic on the Wolves and Wiggins on the Bulls I have no doubt he would have better numbers than Wiggins.


This. niko is the better player right now, but wiggins will win ROY. Mirotic had to fight his way to get more minutes on a playoff team, and wasn't looking good early on. He had good games here and there, but didnt start cooking till after the all star break. since then he's been our best player at times since rose butler and taj got hurt, and pretty sure he's been our leading scorer. 24 points tonight on 8/15 in 25 minutes.

Obviously, i would love for niko to win, but unless he averages 30 for the rest of the season, its going to be wiggins, who has also been impressive.

[JohnFreeman]

Jam hold this W for me

[FreezingTsmoove]

Idk wtf you guys are on. First magic wolves and 76ers are all shit teams so stop pulling out useless stats. The only stats that matter is Wiggins 16 ppg and the other sub 10 ppg. Wiggins 40 mpg on a shit team but guess what Elfrid and Noel play on shit teams to where are their high minutes? Poor stamina compared to Wiggins

[JtotheIzzo]

Why are you guys even debating this? Too much useless stats you guys are pulling out of your asses to deny Wiggins the ROY.. Watch a few ****ing Twolves game and scout Wiggins. I bet none of yall here even watched the Twolves unless it was versus the team you support. Elfrid Payton and Mirotic seriously guys?? is that a ****ing joke.

It goes like this

Wiggins


Noel






Payton - Mirotic.

thank you

clowns have no argument until they dive deep into nerd stats and pull out a few irrelevant numbers where one of their guys is slightly above Wiggins.

then they call people stans for arguing the obvious.

pathetic.

[Jameerthefear]

thank you

clowns have no argument until they dive deep into nerd stats and pull out a few irrelevant numbers where one of their guys is slightly above Wiggins.

then they call people stans for arguing the obvious.

pathetic.
mirotic would be putting up the same numbers in minny. i guarantee this. he's the best rookie right now.

[JtotheIzzo]

mirotic would be putting up the same numbers in minny. i guarantee this. he's the best rookie right now.

that's cute, you guarantee something that can't possibly happen.

with their injuries, who knows what Wiggins might be doing in Chicago...in fact to take a page from your retarded book, Wiggins would be dropping 25ppg in Chicago with defenses focused on Butler and Pau, I GUARANTEE IT.

see, anyone can be a retard, doesn't mean its a good thing.

[GOBB]

Idk wtf you guys are on. First magic wolves and 76ers are all shit teams so stop pulling out useless stats. The only stats that matter is Wiggins 16 ppg and the other sub 10 ppg. Wiggins 40 mpg on a shit team but guess what Elfrid and Noel play on shit teams to where are their high minutes? Poor stamina compared to Wiggins

You always say something that question whether you are borderline retarded on not. Noel does not have poor stamina in comparison to Wiggins you shithead

[veilside23]

Its called rookie of the year... this shouldn't even be a discussion..
yes people may see there are some nights that some rookies are better than wiggins but you cant just base it on some nights that they played if you factor all of the games wiggins has been the best...

clarkson has been playing out of his mind lately but still not enough...

if only noel and mirotic and efriid played this great from the get go then we would have a good argument.

[GOBB]

Its called rookie of the year... this shouldn't even be a discussion..
yes people may see there are some nights that some rookies are better than wiggins but you cant just base it on some nights that they played if you factor all of the games wiggins has been the best...

clarkson has been playing out of his mind lately but still not enough...

if only noel and mirotic and efriid played this great from the get go then we would have a good argument.


If noel finishes the next 12-13 games left as he has been playing? It should be CO ROY

[dontgetchoked]

that's cute, you guarantee something that can't possibly happen.

with their injuries, who knows what Wiggins might be doing in Chicago...in fact to take a page from your retarded book, Wiggins would be dropping 25ppg in Chicago with defenses focused on Butler and Pau, I GUARANTEE IT.

see, anyone can be a retard, doesn't mean its a good thing.
but mirotic has been putting up better numbers without rose taj jimmy and sometimes noah.

[ImKobe]

Wiggins deserves it because he's been playing well for a longer stretch than other rookies.

Hands down best offensive player out of all the rooks and he's a solid perimeter defender, there should be no argument. Noel and Mirotic have stepped up but they weren't doing this back in January.

[Milbuck]

Wiggins deserves it because he's been playing well for a longer stretch than other rookies.

Hands down best offensive player out of all the rooks and he's a solid perimeter defender, there should be no argument. Noel and Mirotic have stepped up but they weren't doing this back in January.
He isn't hands down the best offensive player though. Mirotic is right there with him, arguably even better if you factor in his efficiency and the matchup nightmare that comes with him being a 6'10" PF with elite range/shooting. Mirotic is also a surprisingly good defender, there really isn't an advantage either way between the two on that end imo.

The only reason he hasn't been doing this longer, and his raw numbers don't look better is because Thibs is incredibly stubborn with rookies, he takes FOREVER to trust players. Granted, when he finally trusts players he runs them ragged..but it takes a lot to earn it.

Been watching a lot of Bulls games from early in the season and the skill-set was always there. It was always a confidence and experience situation, and the only way for that to improve was with minutes, which he flat out was not getting. Wiggins is one of the league leaders in minutes lol.

Wiggins is the ROY imo because the numbers matter...but their situations shouldn't be mixed up with their abilities. Mirotic is every bit as good as Wiggins. He just hasn't had the opportunity to show it until the past few weeks.

[Sarcastic]

Mirotic is also 4 years older than Wiggins. When Wiggins is 24, he'll be miles ahead of what Mirotic is now.

[FireDavidKahn]

mirotic would be putting up the same numbers in minny. i guarantee this. he's the best rookie right now.
But he isn't. ROY isn't about potential, it's production

[Jameerthefear]

But he isn't. ROY isn't about potential, it's production
which is exactly why mirotic should win it over wiggins, good point :applause:

[Milbuck]

What kind of Sixers fan can't spell Nerlens correctly?

[kurple]

But he isn't. ROY isn't about potential, it's production
and mirotic is only playing 20mpg

[FireDavidKahn]

which is exactly why mirotic should win it over wiggins, good point :applause:
Wiggins has produced a ton more than Mirotic....

[FireDavidKahn]

and mirotic is only playing 20mpg
Again, about overall production. Minutes played had no factor

[Rose]

Again, about overall production. Minutes played had no factor
So despite Wiggins leading the league in minutes played since December 1 his numbers would be the same if he was playing say...75% of that?

[FreezingTsmoove]

Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe Wiggins plays 40 minutes is because he CAN!?!?! At the end of the day Mirotic is a rookie and a damn good one so if he can play he'll play but he obviously cant handle big minutes yet

[PleezeBelieve]

Wiggins gunning for empty stats to increase his PPG average.

Disgraceful.

Considering his hype, there hasn't been a bigger bust #1 ever

[PleezeBelieve]

Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe Wiggins plays 40 minutes is because he CAN!?!?! At the end of the day Mirotic is a rookie and a damn good one so if he can play he'll play but he obviously cant handle big minutes yet
Lol.@ this 13 year old level post

[Milbuck]

Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe Wiggins plays 40 minutes is because he CAN!?!?! At the end of the day Mirotic is a rookie and a damn good one so if he can play he'll play but he obviously cant handle big minutes yet
This is so retarded, my goodness. Mirotic didn't get limited minutes early because he couldn't "handle it"...it's because he plays in a LOADED front court with an incredibly stubborn coach, for a team that's supposed to be a contender. No shit a rookie is not gonna get burn right off the bat.

[FireDavidKahn]

So despite Wiggins leading the league in minutes played since December 1 his numbers would be the same if he was playing say...75% of that?
Once again, Wiggins has consistently produced ask year long, Mirotic hasn't. Maybe if the times were reversed he would have, but he did not. It didn't matter that Mirotic was stuck behind people, he hasn't produced like Wiggins has.

[PleezeBelieve]

Doesn't matter about production when you put up average empty stats in 40 minutes a night on 16 win team.

Who is the better player?

Noel or Wiggins?

Mirotic or Wiggins?

Easy answer for both of those questions.

[ThickassGlasses]

Doesn't matter about production when you put up average empty stats in 40 minutes a night on 16 win team.

Who is the better player?

Noel or Wiggins?

Mirotic or Wiggins?

Easy answer for both of those questions.


Dion Waiters?


Oh wait :coleman:

[FireDavidKahn]

Doesn't matter about production when you put up average empty stats in 40 minutes a night on 16 win team.

Who is the better player?

Noel or Wiggins?

Mirotic or Wiggins?

Easy answer for both of those questions.
Actually it does. ROy isn't given it based on what could have happened, it's based on what has happened

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Wiggins gunning for empty stats to increase his PPG average.

Disgraceful.

Considering his hype, there hasn't been a bigger bust #1 ever

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really greg oden and kwame brown were picked number one you clown.

how about you try not to show hatred for wiggins so clearly because I think even if he does become a allstar you would say he suck. how about dion waiters will be china in 3 seasons and andrew wiggins will be a all star.